Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

02/13/2025 03:15 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 21 VOTER PREREGISTRATION FOR MINORS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= HB 43 ELECTIONS, VOTING, BALLOTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= HB 10 ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
            HB  21-VOTER PREREGISTRATION FOR MINORS                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
3:29:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 21, "An  Act relating to voter preregistration for                                                               
minors at least 16 years  of age; and relating to confidentiality                                                               
of voter  registration and preregistration  records of  minors at                                                               
least 16 years of age."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)   for  HB  21,  Version   34-LS0241\N,  Dunmire,                                                               
2/11/25, as a working document.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:30:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART  RELAY, Staff,  Representative  Ashley Carrick,  presented                                                               
the summary  of changes [included  in the committee file]  to the                                                               
proposed CS  for HB 21.   The summary of changes  read as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     *  Section 1.  AS 15.07.040  is amended  by adding  new                                                                    
     subsections to read:                                                                                                       
      (b)  A person  who is  at least  16 years  of age  and                                                                    
     under  18 years  of  age may  preregister  to vote.  To                                                                    
     preregister,  a  person  shall supply  the  information                                                                    
     required  under  AS   15.07.060(a)  to  a  registration                                                                    
     official or  a voter registration agency,  except that,                                                                    
     instead of a declaration that  the applicant will be 18                                                                    
     years of age or older within  90 days after the date of                                                                    
     registration  under  AS   15.07.060(a)(6),  the  person                                                                    
     shall supply a  declaration that the person  will be 18                                                                    
     years of age  or older within two years  after the date                                                                    
     of preregistration.                                                                                                        
      (c) Ninety days before a  person preregistered to vote                                                                    
     under (b) of this section  reaches 18 years of age, the                                                                    
     division  shall send,  by  nonforwardable  mail to  the                                                                    
     person's   registration  mailing   address,  a   notice                                                                    
     requesting  address  confirmation  or  correction.  The                                                                    
     notice  must   include  a  postage  prepaid   and  pre-                                                                    
     addressed  return card  on which  the person  may state                                                                    
     the person's current address.  The notice must indicate                                                                    
     that the person  should return the card  not later than                                                                    
     45 days after  the date of the notice  and that failure                                                                    
     to return the card by  the 45-day deadline could result                                                                    
     in  the person  not being  registered to  vote. If  the                                                                    
     person returns  the card,  the division  shall register                                                                    
     the person when the person  reaches 18 years of age and                                                                    
     forward to the person a registration card.                                                                                 
      *  Sec. 2.  AS 15.07.195  is amended  by adding  a new                                                                    
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
      (e)   Notwithstanding   another  provision   of   this                                                                    
     section, the  address and telephone number  of a person                                                                    
     under 18 years of age  who registers or preregisters to                                                                    
     vote   are  confidential   and  not   open  to   public                                                                    
     inspection.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK noted that bill  sponsor, Representative Story, was                                                               
available to take questions pertaining to the CS for HB 21.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked if a  new fiscal note  was available                                                               
for the CS.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RELAY responded  that the fiscal note has  not been received,                                                               
and it would be sent to committee members when completed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:31:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE asked  at  what point  before the  election                                                               
would the  voter card  be sent  out and  whether the  Division of                                                               
Elections would confirm if they were still an eligible voter.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RELAY directed the question to Ms. Beecher.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:32:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROL  BEECHER, Director,  Division of  Elections, Office  of the                                                               
Lieutenant  Governor,  remarked  that when  the  individual  pre-                                                               
registers  they use  the voter  registration form  which has  the                                                               
information necessary to  register for voting, but  in a separate                                                               
category  and  stored in  a  separate  designation on  the  voter                                                               
registration system.  The information  would be what was provided                                                               
on the  voter registration form.   She said 90 days  prior to the                                                               
voter's  eighteenth  birthday, the  card  would  be sent  out  to                                                               
confirm that their resident address is still the same.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE asked  if  pre-registered  voters would  be                                                               
verified in the same fashion as adults.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER responded  yes; the division would  be confirming the                                                               
information much  like it does  with 17-year-olds when  they pre-                                                               
register.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:34:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked how many 17-year-olds  are currently                                                               
pre-registered for voting.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  said she  doesn't have the  data but  can follow-up.                                                               
She remarked that it is a fairly small number.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:34:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  remarked that  one  of  the advantages  of                                                               
dropping the  age to 16 is  that hopefully more students  will be                                                               
interested in  the democratic process  and discuss it  with their                                                               
families.    She   remarked  that  in  the   first  bill  hearing                                                               
discussions, the three months prior to leaving for post-                                                                        
secondary  activities   doesn't  allow   much  time   to  discuss                                                               
registration processes with family.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:36:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  remarked that requirements  and checkboxes                                                               
with  the  permanent  fund  dividend  (PFD)  form  has  generated                                                               
considerable  issues with  the  voter roll.    He remarked  about                                                               
going to  the Division of  Motor Vehicles (DMV) as  a 16-year-old                                                               
and  checking  a  box  to  pre-register  and  was  struggling  to                                                               
understand how to tie voter registration to something else.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:36:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  said  that   the  bill  does  not  propose                                                               
automatically  registering  16-year-olds   when  they  get  their                                                               
driver's license, but it would be an opportunity if they chose.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  removed her objection  to the motion to  adopt the                                                               
proposed  CS for  HB 21,  Version 34-LS0241\N,  Dunmire, 2/11/25.                                                               
There  being  no further  objection,  Version  N was  before  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:37:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  remarked that the  CS was adopted and  inquired if                                                               
there  was any  further discussion  on the  bill prior  to public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:37:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND asked  for clarification  on voter  rolls                                                               
and  if   16-year-olds,  much  like  17-year-olds   can  be  pre-                                                               
registered.   However, nobody  would go on  the roll  unless they                                                               
have received  the card,  returned the  card, and  confirmed that                                                               
they are  a real voter.   He asked  if his understanding  of this                                                               
was correct.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY remarked  that these  pre-registered voters                                                               
would be in  a pending status until they reach  the 90-day period                                                               
prior to the  eighteenth birthday, after which the  card would go                                                               
to the residence  that they pre-registered with.   She added that                                                               
Version  N was  important,  and  it should  be  spelled out  more                                                               
clearly to  ensure that  it was  clear how  the process  would be                                                               
done.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE asked  Representative Story  why she  feels                                                               
the bill is  necessary when an automatic  registration is already                                                               
in place  with the PFD application.   She said this  almost feels                                                               
unnecessary.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY responded  that this  is an  opportunity to                                                               
join 23  other states that have  put this into place.   She added                                                               
that  there is  modest research  that suggests  young voters  are                                                               
more likely  to vote  following pre-registration.   She  said the                                                               
whole idea is to build civic engagement and instill voter pride.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked for  documentation pertaining to other                                                               
states and if they have  automatic voter enrollment systems.  She                                                               
reiterated that  the PFD  automatically registers  applicants for                                                               
voting.    She   said  this  information  would   be  helpful  to                                                               
understand the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY remarked  that one  of the  research papers                                                               
available  briefly touch  on this,  but supplemental  information                                                               
could be provided later.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:42:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MOORE  asked  Representative  Story  whether  the                                                               
proposed bill had  any language that would require  that the pre-                                                               
registration applicants are American Citizens.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  responded  that an  attestation  would  be                                                               
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  Representative  Story,  if  the                                                               
governor's   bill   passed,   which  would   remove   PFD   voter                                                               
registration, whether it would impact this proposed bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY directed the question to Ms. Beecher.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER remarked  that the  current way  that PFD  automatic                                                               
registration works  is that  when an  individual applies  for the                                                               
PFD, who is least 18 and marked  that they are a US citizen, then                                                               
they are sent a notice providing  them the opportunity to opt out                                                               
or change  address.   She responded that  it would  eliminate the                                                               
automatic  registration for  eighteen-year-olds applying  for the                                                               
first time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT remarked  that  if  the governors  bill                                                               
passed, then  HB 21 would  be more important to  prepare upcoming                                                               
voters without PFD automatic registration at 18.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  responded that  this bill  would put  these 16-year-                                                               
olds in the pending status and  when they turn 18 then they would                                                               
be registered.   It would not be automatic but  would allow those                                                               
who applied to become registered using this system.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:47:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK opened public testimony on HB 21.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:47:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT WELTON, representing self, testified  in support of HB 21.                                                               
He remarked that when  he was a kid in the  seventies, he went to                                                               
a  mock  election  as  a  student and  found  it  empowering  and                                                               
exciting.  He  said it did help to instill  voter engagement.  He                                                               
said that Version N is an improvement to put some control in.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLIE FRANZ,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HB
21.  He  opined that there is already a  great deal of difficulty                                                               
managing  the  voter  roll  and  said  this  adds  an  additional                                                               
workload to the  Division of Elections, which is  not equipped to                                                               
handle it.  He said it adds a  layer of complexity.  He said that                                                               
if someone wants  to learn about the election  process, there are                                                               
plenty of  opportunities in  school.  He  remarked that  it isn't                                                               
appropriate to implement  the bill just because  other states did                                                               
so.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROHN ANDERSON,  Member, Alaska Youth  Vote, testified  in support                                                               
of HB  21.  He  said in the 2024  General Election, Alaska  had a                                                               
voter  turnout of  55.8% percent,  and the  state has  the second                                                               
highest  age requirement  for voter  registration.   He  remarked                                                               
that  almost  every other  state  has  put some  pre-registration                                                               
standards  into law.    He  remarked that  this  system fails  to                                                               
provide necessary education  and makes someone an  observer not a                                                               
participant.  He  remarked that other states that do  this, do it                                                               
because it  works.  Other  states see increased  civic engagement                                                               
and voter turnout.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK  after ascertaining  there  was  no one  else  who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 21.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:53:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK set an amendment  deadline and announced that HB 21                                                               
was held over.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:53 p.m. to 3:56 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSHB 21 STA Ver N.pdf HSTA 2/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 21
HB 21 HSTA Summary of Changes Ver A-N.pdf HSTA 2/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 21
HB 43 Written Testimony 2-13-25.pdf HSTA 2/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 43 Support LTR GOTNV 2-12-25.pdf HSTA 2/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 21 Written Testimony 2-13-25.pdf HSTA 2/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 21
HB 43 Support LTR Muni of Anchorage 2-12-25.pdf HSTA 2/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43