Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

03/27/2025 03:15 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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          HB 16-CAMPAIGN FINANCE, CONTRIBUTION LIMITS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:32:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 16,  "An Act  amending campaign  contribution                                                               
limits for  state and local  office; directing the  Alaska Public                                                               
Offices  Commission to  adjust campaign  contribution limits  for                                                               
state and  local office once  each decade beginning in  2031; and                                                               
relating to campaign contribution reporting requirements."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:32:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CALVIN  SCHRAGE,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime sponsor, presented HB 16.  He  said that this was an act to                                                               
amend campaign  contribution limits for state  and local offices.                                                               
Pertaining to  the Alaska Public  Offices Commission  (APOC), the                                                               
bill would adjust campaign contribution  limits once every decade                                                               
beginning   in   2031   as   well   as   contribution   reporting                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE explained that  in 2024, a ballot petition                                                               
was certified  after a grassroots  effort gathered  nearly 30,000                                                               
signatures from Alaska voters and  met the 7 percent threshold in                                                               
32 of Alaska's  40 House districts; this puts  the ballot measure                                                               
in front  of voters  in 2026  if the  Alaska Legislature  did not                                                               
pass similar  legislation.  He  explained that HB 16  matches the                                                               
ballot initiative.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE remarked that  Alaska has historically had                                                               
some of  the strongest and  most effective campaign  finance laws                                                               
in the nation,  which serve to promote  better accountability and                                                               
trust in  elections and elected officials.   He said that  in the                                                               
past, Alaskans have  shown their support for  fair and reasonable                                                               
limits, including a  2006 initiative that passed  with 73 percent                                                               
support.  He  said that unfortunately, in 2021  the Ninth Circuit                                                               
Court  of   Appeals  struck  down  Alaska's   statutory  campaign                                                               
contribution  limits, opening  state and  local elections  to the                                                               
threat  of unlimited  political contributions,  from anywhere  in                                                               
the country.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  stated  that   HB  16  reinstates  fair,                                                               
reasonable,  and  constitutional  campaign  contribution  limits,                                                               
adjusted  to  Alaska's  consumer   price  index  moving  forward,                                                               
ensuring that  these limits remain  constitutional.   He remarked                                                               
that HB 16 would move  Alaska's campaign contribution limits to a                                                               
per-election  basis as  opposed  to a  per-year  basis and  would                                                               
increase individual statutory limit from  $500 per year to $2,000                                                               
per election  cycle.  Furthermore,  it would change  group limits                                                               
from $1,000  per year to $4,000  per election cycle.   Lastly, it                                                               
would  direct  APOC  to adjust  contribution  limits  related  to                                                               
inflation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE stated that  these changes follow guidance                                                               
laid out by the Ninth Circuit  Court of Appeals and United States                                                               
Supreme  Court precedent  while  upholding the  desire of  Alaska                                                               
voters for fair and reasonable contribution limits.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:35:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA NDEMO, Staff, Representative  Calvin Schrage, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of  Representative Schrage, prime sponsor,                                                               
gave a  PowerPoint presentation of  HB 16 [hard copy  included in                                                               
the committee file].   She began by providing an  overview of the                                                               
history of  political contributions  in Alaska,  highlighting key                                                               
legislative actions,  legal challenges, and reforms  from 1974 to                                                               
today.    She  remarked  that   Alaska  has  a  long  history  of                                                               
regulating  political   contributions,  balancing  the   need  to                                                               
prevent corruption with the constitutional  right to free speech.                                                               
However, recent  court decisions  have significantly  altered the                                                               
campaign  finance  landscape.   She  explained  that starting  in                                                               
1974,  Alaska  adopted  its first  significant  campaign  finance                                                               
regulations  in  response  to national  concerns  over  political                                                               
corruption.   Alaska's  statutory individual  contribution limits                                                               
began at  $1,000.  Adjusted  for inflation, this amount  would be                                                               
$5,303  today.   This  limit was  in effect  until  1995.   These                                                               
limits  were  changed  in  1996 to  $500  following  a  citizens'                                                               
initiative  after  the  legislature's  reaction  to  a  citizens'                                                               
initiative  aimed  at  reducing   these  limits.    Adjusted  for                                                               
inflation,  this  amount would  be  $933  today.   In  2003,  the                                                               
legislature passed  Senate Bill 119, which  raised the individual                                                               
contribution limit  back to  $1,000, approximately  $1,638 today.                                                               
In  response  to  concerns  about  political  corruption,  Alaska                                                               
voters reaffirmed a $500 limit  in 2006 through Ballot Measure 1.                                                               
This  measure  passed  overwhelmingly with  74  percent  support.                                                               
This limit  remained in effect  for over  a decade but  was never                                                               
adjusted for  inflation, making  it one of  the strictest  in the                                                               
country.   This  limit  was  later overturned  in  2021 with  the                                                               
decision in Thompson v. Hebdon.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. NDEMO  said that this  case was initially brought  forward in                                                               
2015 in federal district court.   David Thompson and others filed                                                               
a lawsuit  challenging the $500 individual  contribution limit as                                                               
a violation of  the First Amendment.  The lower  court upheld the                                                               
contribution limits,  ruling that they were  narrowly tailored to                                                               
prevent  corruption.    The  plaintiffs  appealed  to  the  Ninth                                                               
Circuit  Court in  2018.    The Ninth  Circuit  Court upheld  the                                                               
district court's ruling, maintaining  that Alaska's strict limits                                                               
were  sufficiently  justified  and   closely  drawn  to  a  state                                                               
interest,    with    preventing    corruption    as    sufficient                                                               
justification.   The case  was then petitioned  and heard  by the                                                               
U.S. Supreme  Court.   The Ninth  Circuit's decision  was vacated                                                               
for reconsideration,  with the U.S. Supreme  Court citing Randall                                                               
v. Sorrell, a 2006 decision  on Vermont's $400 contribution limit                                                               
that was determined to be unconstitutional.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NDEMO explained  that the  importance  of this  case is  the                                                               
five-factor  test, which  provides  guidance  on whether  states'                                                               
contribution  limits  violate  the   First  Amendment  rights  of                                                               
individuals and political organizations.   More specifically, the                                                               
five-factor test asks:   whether the limits are so  low that they                                                               
risk disadvantaging  challengers compared to  incumbents; whether                                                               
the limits  are unduly  restrictive on  the ability  of political                                                               
parties to  support their candidates; whether  volunteer services                                                               
or expenses are considered contributions  that would count toward                                                               
the limit;  whether the  limits are  adjusted for  inflation; and                                                               
whether   there  is   a   special   justification  warranting   a                                                               
contribution limit so  low or so restrictive that it  is based on                                                               
a  valid government  interest.   Of  these  five factors,  Alaska                                                               
failed to  meet this threshold  because contribution  limits were                                                               
too  low and  had not  been  adjusted for  inflation since  being                                                               
initially implemented.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NDEMO said  that in  2021, APOC  issued an  advisory opinion                                                               
following  the court's  decision.   They set  an annual  limit of                                                               
$1,500 for contributions from an  individual to a candidate and a                                                               
$3,000  limit  for  a  group-to-candidate  contribution.    These                                                               
numbers were  based on  the limits that  were established  by the                                                               
Alaska  legislature  in 2003,  which  was  a $1,000  contribution                                                               
limit  for  an  individual  to  a  candidate  but  increased  for                                                               
inflation.  She  said APOC's five commissioners  voted on whether                                                               
to accept the staff's advisory opinion.   Three out of five voted                                                               
in support; however, the staff  advisory opinion was not accepted                                                               
because  they failed  to get  the  required four  votes.   Alaska                                                               
currently  has  no individual-to-candidate  limits,  out-of-state                                                               
contribution  limits, or  individual-to-group limits.   This  has                                                               
left Alaska  and local  elections open  to unlimited  and outside                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. NDEMO  explained HB 16 aims  to offer a balanced  approach to                                                               
the  reinstatement of  campaign  contribution  limits in  Alaska.                                                               
Furthermore,  HB  16  seeks  to modify  the  existing  limits  on                                                               
campaign   contributions  for   state   and   local  offices   by                                                               
establishing  the  contribution  limits.    It  also  establishes                                                               
contribution  limits   based  on  an  election   cycle,  ensuring                                                               
consistent  limits regardless  of  election  timing or  candidate                                                               
entry  date.   Additionally,  it  directs  APOC to  adjust  these                                                               
limits every  decade starting in  2031 to account  for inflation.                                                               
Shown  in the  slide is  a summary  of the  proposed contribution                                                               
limits.   Individual contribution  limits were previously  set to                                                               
$500;  adjusted for  inflation,  this  is $751  today.   The  new                                                               
limits would be $2,000.   An individual's contribution limit to a                                                               
political  party and  a non-political  party's contribution  to a                                                               
group,  non-group entity,  or  political party  would  be set  at                                                               
$5,000.   This  has not  changed and  was not  an issue  with the                                                               
court.  A non-political party to  an individual is set at $4,000.                                                               
A non-group  entity to a  non-group entity  was set at  $1,000 in                                                               
2006, which is $1,501  today.  The new limit would  be $4,000.  A                                                               
group  to  join a  joint  campaign  for governor  and  lieutenant                                                               
governor is $2,000,  which is $3,003 today.  The  new limit would                                                               
be $8,000.   This is just a simple infographic  of those changes.                                                               
This  slide  provides  a  visual of  the  five-factor  test  from                                                               
Randall  v.  Sorrell and  how  HB  16 implements  those  specific                                                               
questions  that  were   asked  by  the  court.     Overall,  this                                                               
initiative    brings    Alaska's   individual-to-candidate    and                                                               
individual-to-group political  contribution limits  in compliance                                                               
with  the Thompson  v. Hebdon  court decision.  It re-establishes                                                               
limits that Alaska voters' support.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:44:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK said  that review of the  sectional analysis wasn't                                                               
necessary and asked committee if they had questions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:44:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  asked whether  these limits apply  to all                                                               
races including the local assembly,  school board, and both state                                                               
and federal  elections.  He  was unsure whether the  bill covered                                                               
all elections that are managed by the state.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  responded  that  federal  elections  are                                                               
governed  through federal  law and  the proposed  legislation was                                                               
focused  on state  elections including  the governor's  race, the                                                               
House, Senate, and municipal races.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  asked   for  clarification  whether  the                                                               
proposed bill would comply with the citizens' initiative.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  responded that the proposed  bill mirrors                                                               
exactly what is certified to appear on the 2026 ballot.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK said the committee would hear invited testimony.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:46:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHARMAN  HALEY   began  her  invited  testimony   by  giving  her                                                               
background  as  a  now retired  policy  analyst  and  researcher,                                                               
including  time   spent  with  Legislative  Legal   and  Research                                                               
Services and the Institute of  Social and Economic Research.  She                                                               
stated  that she  has been  working on  this issue  for about  10                                                               
years.   She said that  currently she  was involved in  work with                                                               
Alaska  Move  to  Amend,  Citizens  Against  Money  in  Politics,                                                               
American  Promise,   as  well  as  with   ordinary  citizens  and                                                               
politicians who care about this issue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HALEY  said   that  the   proposed  bill   should  not   be                                                               
controversial  and  that  it had  solid  support  amongst  Alaska                                                               
constituents across  the political spectrum.   She explained that                                                               
the bill contained the same  language as the citizens' initiative                                                               
that would  be on  the 2026  ballot, but there  is hope  that the                                                               
legislature would pass the legislation  this session and save the                                                               
effort necessary  to put  forth a ballot  measure.   She remarked                                                               
that  the bill  was  carefully  crafted to  conform  to the  five                                                               
criteria dictated  by the  Ninth Circuit  Court that  struck down                                                               
previous law;  any "gray areas"  that might be grounds  for legal                                                               
challenge have been removed from the  bill.  She noted that it is                                                               
a  politically  solid  bill because  Alaskans  have  demonstrated                                                               
their support for strong campaign finance laws.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALEY explained  that the old campaign finance  also began as                                                               
a citizen initiative and was  enacted by the legislature in 1996.                                                               
It was  one of  the strictest in  the country,  with contribution                                                               
limits of  $500.  She  said that  the legislature felt  that this                                                               
was inadequate because some candidates  were required to do a lot                                                               
of fundraising.   She said that in 2003 limits  were increased to                                                               
$1,000,  but  voters  stepped  up  in  2006  and  passed  another                                                               
initiative  bringing campaign  limits back  to $500.   This  2006                                                               
initiative passed  with a 73  percent approval rating.   She said                                                               
that the initiative passed with  a solid majority in every single                                                               
district of the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALEY  explained that Alaskans  want strong  campaign finance                                                               
limits  to   protect  the   balance  of   power  and   limit  the                                                               
disproportionate influence  and corrupting power of  big money in                                                               
elections.    She said  that  in  2020,  there  was a  poll  that                                                               
illustrated  that 71  percent of  Alaskans would  support a  U.S.                                                               
constitutional   amendment  restoring   full  authority   to  set                                                               
reasonable limits  on political spending in  elections, including                                                               
independent  expenditures.   The  court in  Citizens United  said                                                               
that it could not be limited.   As a result of that poll, support                                                               
for  a  constitutional  amendment restoring  authority  to  limit                                                               
independent  expenditures   was  strong  across   both  political                                                               
parties and independents.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALEY  said she probably did  not need to restate  the limits                                                               
in the  bill because the  committee already  had that.   She said                                                               
she would have chosen a lower  limit than $2,000 and that she had                                                               
run the numbers  a couple of years earlier, but  there had been a                                                               
lot  of inflation  since  then, and  she  accepted the  political                                                               
judgment  of  the  sponsors  that   $2,000  was  a  safer  number                                                               
politically.   She stated  that the two  big improvements  in the                                                               
bill over the  old law were that the limit  would be per election                                                               
cycle and not per year -  because savvy people used to double dip                                                               
in December and January -  and that it would automatically adjust                                                               
the limits  for inflation every  10 years,  which was one  of the                                                               
requirements  from the  Ninth Circuit  Court.   She concluded  by                                                               
saying  that she  and her  fellow  Alaskans supported  HB 16  and                                                               
called on the committee to support it as well.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:52:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said that  he was interested in definitions                                                               
and whether  there was a  difference between  a group and  a non-                                                               
group.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE responded that he  would have to follow up                                                               
with an answer.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. NDEMO responded  that definitions for this could  be found in                                                               
Alaska Statute (AS) 15.13.400.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:53:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MOORE asked Representative  Schrage why he did not                                                               
take  this  opportunity to  make  APOC  more accountable  and  it                                                               
seemed  like the  commission  needed  more transparent  direction                                                               
through statute.   She said that most legislators  she knew would                                                               
like  this to  come from  the commission  and asked  whether this                                                               
additional step would make the proposed bill more convoluted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SCHRAGE  asked   for  additional   clarification                                                               
regarding the question.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MOORE  clarified  that the  question  is  whether                                                               
there was a  reason not to take the opportunity  to overhaul APOC                                                               
protocols when drafting the legislation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  provided clarification of the  history of                                                               
why the bill was proposed.   He said that efforts began after the                                                               
court struck  down previous limits  and the initial  approach was                                                               
to fix  the hole created  in Alaska's campaign  finance structure                                                               
following the court ruling.  He  said that the intent was to take                                                               
the "lightest touch, most  straightforward approach" to restoring                                                               
campaign  contribution limits,  which is  what the  proposed bill                                                               
would  accomplish.   He said  that he  was happy  to discuss  the                                                               
mechanics associated with this process.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE said  that while he has  not been involved                                                               
in  politics for  a  substantial amount  of  time, he  frequently                                                               
hears  various  concerns  about  APOC.    These  concerns  regard                                                               
funding and  staffing limitations to why  they cannot proactively                                                               
enforce campaign finance  laws.  He said that  the funding aspect                                                               
is  a policy  decision for  the state.   He  reiterated that  his                                                               
approach   was  just   to  address   the  lack   of  limits   and                                                               
enforceability  of the  mechanics that  APOC currently  has.   He                                                               
said that  in his experience  talking with legislators  and those                                                               
involved  in campaigns,  there is  not a  consistent view  of how                                                               
APOC should be  structured.  He said that there  was concern with                                                               
some  people  giving  APOC  enforcement  mechanisms  due  to  its                                                               
potential weaponization as an agency.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  commented  that people  are  comfortable                                                               
with what  they know  today, which  is a  complaint-based system,                                                               
where if  someone notices something  odd, they file  a complaint;                                                               
this is  what triggers  enforcement and  investigation.   He said                                                               
that the legislature  could consider whether they  wanted APOC to                                                               
have enforcement  capability, but  it was  something that  he was                                                               
reluctant to do  because the primary goal is to  take care of the                                                               
shortcomings in  campaign finance.   He suggested APOC  reform is                                                               
something that could be done in the future.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:58:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY asked  whether Representative  Schrage knew                                                               
what  the  proportional  support was  for  campaign  contribution                                                               
regarding the citizens' initiative.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE responded that  with the ballot initiative                                                               
it  is  not  possible  to ascertain  what  percentage  of  people                                                               
support the initiative  since the objective is  to simply collect                                                               
the  minimum number  of signatures,  both as  an aggregate  and a                                                               
minimum  across several  districts in  the state.   He  said that                                                               
while the signatures  required to initiate a  ballot measure were                                                               
met, it does  not necessarily speak to the level  of support that                                                               
exists in Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  that  given recent  polling in  the                                                               
past couple  weeks, it is deduced  that support is upwards  of 65                                                               
percent.  He  said looking at other polls and  some of the ballot                                                               
initiatives that  his staff walked through,  support has remained                                                               
well  over 60  if not  even above  75 percent  support.   He said                                                               
there  was  a "strong  appetite"  for  this  change to  occur  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  said  that  with regard  to  limits,  he                                                               
wanted to  provide a background to  campaign contribution limits.                                                               
He  said  that  as  the presentation  indicated,  the  individual                                                               
campaign limits  have gone  from $500 to  $2,000, and  while this                                                               
seems  like a  considerable jump,  it pertains  to each  election                                                               
cycle as  opposed to an  annual limit.  He  said that in  the old                                                               
system, one  could collect $500 twice  for a total of  $1,000 per                                                               
individual  contribution, now  it would  be $2,000  - double  the                                                               
limit.    He  said  that  the old  limits  did  not  account  for                                                               
inflation, and with this consideration,  the limit would be about                                                               
$1,500  per election  cycle.   He said  that $2,000  was selected                                                               
because previous  limits were struck  down in part for  being too                                                               
low;  the $2,000  limit is  intended to  reduce the  limits being                                                               
tossed out by courts again.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:00:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said that APOC  needs a "haircut."  He said                                                               
that if he had it his way, he  would get rid of APOC entirely and                                                               
adopt  the   Federal  Exchange  Commission  (FEC)   limits.    He                                                               
recognized  that once  "Pandora's  box" gets  opened, things  get                                                               
complicated  fast.   He highlighted  the enormous  problem Alaska                                                               
has with outside  money.  He understood Citizens  United but said                                                               
the reality is that  Alaska "is a cheap date."   He said that the                                                               
state  has roughly  530,000 voters  and, for  only a  few million                                                               
dollars, outside interests  can reach voters multiple  times.  He                                                               
said this  money overwhelmingly targets ballot  measures, such as                                                               
this ballot measure.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said that it  is frustrating that Alaska is                                                               
constrained  by the  courts.   The citizens  said $500,  then the                                                               
legislature said  $1,000, then the  citizens reinstated  the said                                                               
$500, then the court said no to  everything.  He said that it may                                                               
be wise to start listening to  the citizens.  He said that Alaska                                                               
voters  he spoke  with were  extremely upset  about "dark  money"                                                               
coming into Alaska  to experiment with state affairs  such as the                                                               
election  system.    He said  whether  someone  supported  ranked                                                               
choice voting or not, Alaska is the "guinea pig."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE   responded  that  he  shares   the  same                                                               
frustration.   He said that  as an Alaskan who  strongly believes                                                               
in campaign contribution limits, he  was deeply frustrated by the                                                               
Citizens United  ruling.  He opined  that it was a  mistake or at                                                               
the  very  least, a  problematic  decision  that limits  Alaska's                                                               
right to  self-determination.  As previously  noted, the decision                                                               
places strict limits  on what states are allowed to  do.  He said                                                               
that Citizens  United established several principles,  but one of                                                               
the most  consequential is that  contribution limits can  only be                                                               
justified for  a very  narrow set  of reasons.   Today,  the only                                                               
legally  valid  justification  is  preventing  the  actuality  or                                                               
appearance of corruption.   He said that  previously states could                                                               
rely  on other  rationale such  as self-determination,  but these                                                               
arguments  were  no  longer  available.     He  said  that  since                                                               
corruption  is now  the sole  permissible justification,  out-of-                                                               
state donations cannot be banned.   He said that as a policymaker                                                               
he could  not claim that  an out-of-state contribution  poses any                                                               
greater risk of  corrupting an elected official  than an in-state                                                               
donor.    As  a  result, Citizens  United  effectively  prohibits                                                               
states from limiting out-of-state donations to local elections.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  said that he has  worked with legislators                                                               
to explore creative  new approaches to this problem,  but so far,                                                               
he  has not  believed that  a solution  has been  identified that                                                               
would survive legal scrutiny.   He shared Representative McCabe's                                                               
concerns  regarding  outside   money.    He  said   that  he  was                                                               
interested in  pursuing a resolution  urging Congress  to address                                                               
this  issue  directly;  this  is   the  only  path  to  restoring                                                               
meaningful limits on out-of-state donors.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  said that while out-of-state  spending is                                                               
a serious problem,  there were at least a  few mitigating factors                                                               
worth consideration.  He noted  that when one outside group pours                                                               
money into Alaska, an opposing  group is able, though not always,                                                               
to rally resources and provide  a counterweight in the same media                                                               
market.   An independent expenditure  group faces  a disadvantage                                                               
that candidates  do not:  dramatically  higher advertising rates.                                                               
He said  that it may  cost $100 for campaign  to run a  mailer or                                                               
advertisement  ("ad"),  whereas  independent  expenditure  groups                                                               
might pay  $700 to $1,000 for  the same placement.   He said that                                                               
it does  not solve the problem  but blunts some of  the impact of                                                               
outside spending.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said  that he was trying  to understand how                                                               
outside money  would function under this  HB 16.  As  he read it,                                                               
outside  contributions would  be  limited  for candidates,  which                                                               
would  mean  that  someone  from  outside  the  state  could  not                                                               
contribute  directly  to  a  candidates'  campaign,  even  though                                                               
independent  expenditures  would  still  be allowed.    He  asked                                                               
whether ballot measures  could be treated the  same as candidates                                                               
and said  that campaign  contribution limits  apply to  state and                                                               
local offices.  It would  not stop independent expenditure groups                                                               
from advertising,  but it would prevent  contributing directly to                                                               
the ballot  measure committees themselves.   He said that  he was                                                               
unsure how this  would play out legally, but looking  at the same                                                               
problem,  it feels  unconscionable that  certain groups  can pour                                                               
$20 million from  outside the state trying to  oppose people that                                                               
might  have  $100,000  or  less.     He  said  the  imbalance  is                                                               
staggering.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  that he  is happy  to explore  this                                                               
issue but  would want to  ensure that solutions would  pass legal                                                               
scrutiny.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:07:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT said  that like  Representative McCabe,                                                               
she  was appalled  by the  amount of  outside money  flowing into                                                               
Alaska.   She asked Representative  Schrage, if the  bill passed,                                                               
whether  these rules  would  be enforced  for  the 2026  election                                                               
cycle.   She  said that  she agreed  with the  inflation-proofing                                                               
associated with the proposed bill.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE responded  that if  the bill  were passed                                                               
and signed  into law,  then it  would be in  effect for  the next                                                               
campaign cycle.  He said that  this was something that would need                                                               
to be  monitored as the  bill progresses.   He noted that  if the                                                               
bill did  not pass  until the  upcoming legislature  [2026], then                                                               
the effective dates may require adjustment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSCHOOT  said   that  the   $2,000  individual                                                               
contribution per cycle  seems high, but in her  district, five of                                                               
the  communities are  only reachable  by vehicle  after she  gets                                                               
there, which  requires a  $700 round-trip  ticket from  her home.                                                               
She  said that  she  has a  lot of  low-income  areas that  can't                                                               
contribute, even  if they wanted to.   She said that  despite the                                                               
contribution  limit  seeming high,  only  a  few members  of  her                                                               
district could realistically contribute that much.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  said that it  had been hard work  to come                                                               
up  with a  contribution  limit that  is  legally defensible  but                                                               
reasonably low.   He  reiterated that  the goal  is to  match the                                                               
intent of  Alaskans who have made  it clear that they  want a low                                                               
contribution  limit.   He  said that  Alaskans  are sensitive  to                                                               
issues   surrounding   corruption   and  distrust   of   election                                                               
officials.   He raised concern about  contributions' abilities to                                                               
influence a legislator's role and the issue of "indebtedness."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:11:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND asked whether  the committee still planned                                                               
on  public  testimony  for  the proposed  bill  on  the  upcoming                                                               
Saturday since he had interested testifiers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  affirmed that the  proposed bill would  be brought                                                               
back for the upcoming Saturday committee meeting.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[HB 16 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 16 Version A Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB0016A.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Version A Sectional Analysis.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Fiscal Note DOA-APOC-3-21-2025.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Support LTR Alaska Voter Hub.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Written Testimony Rec'd 3-26-25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Presentation 3-27-25 UPDATED.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
CS HB 35 Sponsor Statement - Version G 3.13.25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
CS HB 35 Sectional Analysis - Version G 3.13.25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
CS HB 35 CRA Ver G.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
CS HB 35 - Version G Explanation of Changes 3.13.25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
HB 35 Presentation ARP 3-27-25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35