Legislature(2019 - 2020)BARNES 124
03/29/2019 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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| HJR10 | |
| HB16 | |
| Adjourn |
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| + | HJR 10 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 35 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HB 16-LOCAL FOOD PROCUREMENT; LABELING
2:08:59 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR announced the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 16, "An Act relating to the Alaska Food, Drug,
and Cosmetic Act; and relating to the sale of milk, milk
products, raw milk, and raw milk products."
[Before the committee was the sponsor substitute (SS) for HB 16,
introduced and referred to the House Resources Standing
Committee on 3/20/19.]
2:09:42 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR opened public testimony.
2:10:01 PM
ART GRISWOLD, Golden Heart Dairies, said his two sons have a raw
milk dairy that distributes in the Fairbanks area over one-half
ton per week. Mr. Griswold expressed his support for the bill
which clarifies membership and herd-share programs. Golden
Heart Dairies has approximately 30 head [of cows] and seeks to
expand to a 100-head dairy with a Grade A program. He said
financing is difficult for the dairy industry and urged the
committee to support "the program."
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER asked for the location of [Golden Heart
Dairies].
MR. GRISWOLD said Delta Junction.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked for a description of a Grade A dairy
program.
MR. GRISWOLD said to become a Grade A dairy Golden Heart Dairies
would have to construct a creamery and have Grade A inspections
made on the barns and the dairy. In further response to
Representative Hannan, he said the dairy would still sell raw
milk, but to enter the Grade A dairy and retail market, the
dairy needs a pasteurization plant.
CO-CHAIR TARR inquired as to the amount of investment needed for
the growth of the dairy.
MR. GRISWOLD said the creamery equipment costs $700,000; the
barns and the new creamery will cost $1.4 million. Financing is
difficult although a portion could be federal loan programs.
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK asked how a creamery would affect the
production of the dairy.
MR. GRISWOLD advised the investment in a creamery would triple
the dairy's output of milk.
2:16:53 PM
JOHN ANDERSON disclosed he is a member of the Board of
Agriculture and Conservation, Division of Agriculture, DNR, and
was speaking on his own behalf in support of the bill. Mr.
Anderson said the bill would solidify the market for raw milk
products thereby helping producers in the state and keeping
hundreds of thousands of dollars in Alaska. For example,
farmers spend thousands of dollars on feed and supply. He
cautioned about other issues such as "the M.ovi issue" and [the
lack of] access to farm insurance.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked whether Mr. Anderson carries farm
insurance for his products.
MR. ANDERSON said no. Country Financial is the only farm
insurance company in Alaska and if one sells raw milk products
it will not issue insurance.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN surmised farm insurance is limited because
raw milk is available through herd sharing. She clarified her
question:
Maybe you could help [explain the problem] by just
expanding on what the need for increased farm
insurance coverage is for.
MR. ANDERSON explained when farmers sell products at a farmers
market, the farmers market venue requires liability insurance.
CO-CHAIR TARR added the bill has a very limited scope and does
not relate to retail or farmers market sales.
2:22:54 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ concluded the bill would not allow
sales at farmers markets; however, a farmer could market a cow
share program.
CO-CHAIR TARR stated a farmer can provide information about a
herd share program, but no sales are allowed at farmers'
markets.
2:23:45 PM
AMY SEITZ, Executive Director, Alaska Farm Bureau, Inc.,
informed the committee the Alaska Farm Bureau promotes expanding
economic opportunities for farmers and ranchers in Alaska. In
Alaska, 95 percent of purchased food is imported, and it is
important to foster continued growth in agriculture. The
proposed bill takes steps, such as security for herd share
programs by allowing access to expanded products, improved food
security, and keeping food dollars in the state. Ms. Seitz
urged the committee to support passage of the bill.
2:25:16 PM
SUZY CROSBY, spokesperson, Cottonwood Creek Farm, expressed her
support for HB 16. She said the bill would protect "herd share"
from changes made by a state official, and includes the sale of
value-added products in the definition of herd share. She
referred to a legal opinion that if a person has a right to
drink raw milk, they have the right to have the milk made into
products. Also, there are three benefits to broadening the term
herd share to include value-added products: producers can
utilize a surplus of milk by making chevre; consumers have more
locally made products available; the state's "closed loop
scenario" between producer and consumer remains intact.
2:29:31 PM
COURTNEY MUNSON said she consumes raw milk and participates in a
herd share program. She expressed her support for the bill
because raw milk and raw milk products are important for the
health of her family. In addition, the bill supports local food
security, the food economy, and a close connection with the food
supply.
2:32:05 PM
LESLIE TOMPKINS said she has members in a herd share of goats
and cows. She expressed support of the "new language" in the
bill and of previous testimony related to value-added products.
2:33:41 PM
GIANA THOMAS said she is in support of HB 16. As a herd share
owner, the bill recognizes her rights, and also helps support
food security. Alaska has only one public dairy and if there
are no longer third-party inspections, all dairies will herd
share. Ms. Thomas explained why pasteurization is necessary for
very large dairies; however, small farm dairies know their
animals and procedures. Ms. Thomas further explained she has a
goat herd and seeks to offer a herd share in sheep; however,
sheep are seasonal milkers and to offer a year-around herd
share, she needs to include sheep cheese. She pointed out sheep
milk and sheep cheese would be a valuable niche market for
Alaska.
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER asked for the price of a gallon of raw
milk.
MS. THOMAS said the true cost is approximately $10 per gallon.
In further response to Representative Rauscher, she explained
she has a one-seventh share and picks up one gallon per week
from a goat that weighs approximately 150 pounds; a cow would
give 8-10 gallons per day depending on the feed and the cow's
condition. The number of shares depends on how one manages the
milk and milk products, and she provided examples.
2:40:55 PM
CANDY BATES said she is in support of the bill. She said she
has a calf operation and has dairy cows. She said she has
concerns about insurance and need the support of the legislature
to grow agriculture and livestock [industries] in the state.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked Ms. Bates for the number of her
shareholders and how many cows are milked.
MS. BATES said she has a feedstock operation that breeds cows
and has 35 milk cows. Her farm produces cows to sell to local
homesteaders for hand-milking by their owners.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN questioned whether some farms have meat
shares.
MS. BATES said others do, but she sells beef by a quarter or
one-half. Her involvement with milk cows is to produce better
genetics for the cows in Alaska. In response to Representative
Rauscher, she said a milk cow costs $2,500-$3,500.
2:45:08 PM
PETE KENNEDY, attorney, Weston A. Price Foundation, said he
agreed with testimony from Ms. Crosby related to the benefits to
the state: more food dollars in the state from value-added
products and more opportunities for farmers. He noted value-
added products have a better safety record than does fluid milk.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked Dr. Gerlach how many herd shares
operate in the state.
2:47:14 PM
ROBERT GERLACH, VMD, State Veterinarian, Office of the State
Veterinarian, Division of Environmental Health, Department of
Environmental Conservation, informed the committee the Office of
State Veterinarian does not keep a record of the number of herd
share operators or of the number of farms in the state. He has
heard there may be one or two dozen in the Matanuska-Susitna
valley and more in the Interior.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN questioned whether Alaska has only one
commercial dairy licensed to sell retail products.
DR. GERLACH said correct. Havemeister Dairy has a permit for a
dairy farm and for a pasteurization plant; another facility has
a permit to supply blow molding milk containers for the dairy.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN inquired as to how to bring the state's
raw milk and cheese into full commercial retail operations
across Alaska.
DR. GERLACH advised current state regulations prohibit the
distribution or sale of raw milk to consumers. State
regulations do not prohibit an individual from consuming raw
milk, or from consuming raw milk acquired by owning a portion of
an animal through a "share operation." Dr. Gerlach pointed out
18 AAC 32.010 allows the consumption of raw milk by the owner of
an animal for that person's personal use, but does not permit
the processing of that milk into products for distribution to
owners.
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER asked for the precautions that are
necessary related to raw milk.
DR. GERLACH said raw milk is considered a high-risk product for
foodborne pathogens for two reasons: cattle and goats can shed
pathogens directly into the milk and the environment where the
milk is harvested, and where the animal lives, can contribute to
pathogens being transferred into the milk. He said national
studies have found 12 percent of milk collected from Grade A
dairies and raw milk dairies contain pathogenic bacteria. The
state milk program inspects farms to ensure animals are healthy
and monitors the transfer of milk to the processing plant; if
the raw milk has a higher bacterial count the milk is not
processed. In addition, the state lab tests for the presence of
adulterants such as antibiotics.
MS. THOMAS corrected her previous testimony that the cost of
milk [from her herd share] is $10 per half gallon.
2:54:57 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR, after ascertaining no one further wished to
testify, closed public testimony on HB 16. She noted the bill
will create small business opportunities for farms and dairies
and freedom for consumers; her personal experience is that the
[herd share] animals are well cared for.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN observed there were dairies in Anchorage
and Southeast Alaska not so long ago; she expressed her support
for the expansion of the dairy and agricultural industries
whenever possible.
2:59:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO moved to report SSHB 16, Version 31-
LS0215\U, out of committee with individual recommendations and
the accompanying fiscal notes. There being no objection, SSHB
16 was reported from the House Resources Standing Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 35 Informational Document BOF-BOG History and Process 03.06.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/7/2019 10:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Suporting Document SEAFA 03.02.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/7/2019 10:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Document UFA 03.06.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/7/2019 10:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Emails(18 Combined) 03.25.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB35 Supporting Letter Wallesz 03.25.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter APHA 03.21.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter SEAS 03.22.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter NPFA 03.25.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter KSA 03.26.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter USAG 03.07.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter RHAK 03.11.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/12/2019 11:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter ABSC 03.08.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/12/2019 11:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Informational Document-ADF&G BOF Ethics Process Overview and Recusals 3.6.19.pdf |
HFSH 3/12/2019 11:00:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 ver U 03.13.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Explanation of Changes ver A to U 03.13.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Fiscal Note-DAS-03.15.19.pdf |
HRES 3/27/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Sponsor Statement 03.05.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Letter CDFU 03.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 35 Supporting Document - UFA Response to Opposition 3.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Suzy Crosby Testimony Slides.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Letter of Support - Denise Statz.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - ADEC Raw Milk.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Existing Alaska AAC.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Herdshare Agreement Sample.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - NCSL Milk Laws.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Supporting Document - Tarr memo re Herdshare Property Rights.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Fiscal Note DEC 3.15.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Fiscal Note DHSS 3.15.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Version U Sectional 3.20.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Version U 3.14.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 16 Version U Sponsor Statement 3.20.19.pdf |
HRES 3/22/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB16 Supporting Document - Emails in Support 3.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Tanana Chiefs Conference.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Northway Traditional Council.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Map 2 .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Golden Valley Electrical Association .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Copper Valley Electrical Association Resolution.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Copper Valley Devlopment Association.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Copper Valley Chamber of Commerce.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Chitina Electric Inc Resolution.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Chickaloon Village Tradition Council.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Alaska Power Telephone Company .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Ahtna Inc..pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Project Description.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Map 1.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Resolution Version M.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Article APM.docx.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Alaska Federation of Natives.docx.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Documents Alaska Power Association .pdf |
HENE 3/14/2019 10:15:00 AM HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Version U.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Fiscal Note.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting Document Support List.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Presentation Jason Hoke RBIT.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR10 Supporting Document - 2019 Support Exploration of Road Belt Electrical Line 3.28.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting doc Alaska Interie Project Presentation Duhamel.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HJR 10 Supporting doc Alaska Intertie Project Presentation Duhamel.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 4/1/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HJR 10 |
| HB16 Supporting Document - Emails in Support Set Two 3.29.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 16 |
| HB 35 Supporting Emails (21 Combined) 03.29.19.pdf |
HRES 3/29/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 35 |