Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

03/12/2024 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SJR 13 AMEND ALASKA NATIVE CLAIMS SETTLEMENT ACT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 13 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 347 PROPERTY ASSESSMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 12 MUNICIPAL REGULATION OF TRAPPING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
             HB  12-MUNICIPAL REGULATION OF TRAPPING                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:13:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK  announced that the  final order of business  would                                                             
be HOUSE  BILL NO.  12, "An  Act relating  to municipal  regulation                                                             
of trapping; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ANDY  JOSEPHSON,   Alaska  State   Representative,                                                             
prime  sponsor,  presented  HB  12.   He  paraphrased  the  sponsor                                                             
statement  [included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as                                                             
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill  12 seeks to make  explicit the authorization                                                                   
     for  home   rule  and  general   law  municipalities   to                                                                  
     regulate   trapping   for    the   limited   purpose   of                                                                  
     preventing  injury  to  persons  or  property,  including                                                                  
     domestic animals.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Stories  of pets and people  inadvertently caught  in (or                                                                  
     simply  triggering)  traps are  legion,  and cause  worry                                                                  
     and  concern   for  many  Alaskans  who  enjoy   Alaska's                                                                  
     extensive  outdoors. In a state  as large as ours,  local                                                                  
     government   is  often  best-positioned   to   understand                                                                  
     local land-use  issues, and this  bill aims to  guarantee                                                                  
     the ability  of local municipalities  to tailor  specific                                                                  
     regulations  to promote  safe trapping  practices  within                                                                  
     their  jurisdiction.  Absent the  passage  of this  bill,                                                                  
     local  government  may  lack  the  ability   to  regulate                                                                  
     trapping   under  existing   state  law   or  the   state                                                                  
     Constitution.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Drawing  on   provisions  of  Alaska  statutes   and  the                                                                  
     Alaska  Constitution,   an  Attorney  General's   opinion                                                                  
     from   1982   determined   that   municipalities   cannot                                                                  
     directly  regulate  game but  may enact  ordinances  with                                                                  
     an 'incidental effect' on game.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     In  effect,  approximately  fifteen  cities  or  boroughs                                                                  
     within  Alaska regulate  trapping  in some  way  already.                                                                  
     The scope  of these regulations  spans from prohibitions                                                                   
     on  trapping  of  domestic  animals,  which  is  arguably                                                                  
     already  illegal  under the  state's cruelty  to  animals                                                                  
     statute,  to prohibitions on  trapping within the  entire                                                                  
     jurisdiction,  which arguably is  a direct regulation  of                                                                  
     game.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     HB  12 seeks  to remove  legal uncertainty  over  whether                                                                  
     existing  or future  municipal safe  trapping  ordinances                                                                  
     are  direct   regulations  or   merely  have   incidental                                                                  
     effect.  It does  so by:  (1) stipulating  the  statutory                                                                  
     authorization  of  state  game management  in  Title  16;                                                                  
     and  (2)  specifically   authorizing  municipalities   to                                                                  
     limit trapping  in certain ways  (for example, trap  tags                                                                  
     and signage)  for a specific  purpose (preventing  injury                                                                  
     to  people  and domestic  animals)  in  particular  areas                                                                  
     (where  injury  is  likely  to  occur)   and  allows  for                                                                  
     exemptions  (for  example,   to  prevent  the  spread  of                                                                  
     disease), in Title 29.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I  urge you  to  support this  legislation.  Please  feel                                                                  
     free  to contact  my  staff  Alexander at  465-4939  with                                                                  
     any questions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:21:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXANDER   SCHROEDER,   Staff,  Representative   Andy   Josephson,                                                             
Alaska State  Legislature, on behalf  of Representative  Josephson,                                                             
prime sponsor  of HB 12, presented  a PowerPoint, entitled  "HB 12:                                                             
Municipal  Regulation  of Trapping,"  [hard  copy  included in  the                                                             
committee  packet].  He  began on slide  2, "Alaska  Constitution,"                                                             
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Two constitutional sections pertain to trapping                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Article  X, Section 11. Home  Rule Powers: A home  rule                                                                  
     borough  or  city may  exercise  all  legislative  powers                                                                  
     not prohibited by law or by charter                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •  Article   VIII,  Section   3.  Common  Use:   Wherever                                                                  
     occurring  in their  natural state,  fish, wildlife,  and                                                                  
     waters are reserved to the people for common use.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •     There     is    ambiguity     as     to     whether                                                                  
     cities/municipalities  can manage  trapping within  their                                                                  
     local boundaries.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHROEDER continued  to slide  3,  which featured  a chart  of                                                             
the municipal  codes in  15 municipalities  that prohibit  trapping                                                             
within their boundaries in some capacity.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHROEDER  proceeded  to  slide  4,  "Trapping   Regulations,"                                                             
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  trapping  regulations  are  extremely  permissive                                                                  
     regarding traps set near public-use trails                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     2023-2024 Alaska Trapping Regulations                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  "Avoid situations  where you  might  catch a  domestic                                                                  
     dog  or cat,  such  as near  homes or  trails  frequently                                                                  
     used  by  hikers,   skijorers,  dog  mushers,   or  other                                                                  
     people" (page 6)                                                                                                           
     •  "Remember  to  act responsibly  by  trapping  in  ways                                                                  
     that  minimize   conflict  between  trappers   and  other                                                                  
     users.  Failing to  do so  may jeopardize  the future  of                                                                  
     trapping in Alaska" (page 4)                                                                                               
     •  There  is  no  clear  penalty  for  failing  to  avoid                                                                  
     situations  where a pet or child  is caught in a  trap by                                                                  
     a trail                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Statute                                                                                                             
     •  AS 16.05.790:  Obstruction  or  hinderance  of  lawful                                                                  
     hunting,  fishing, trapping, or  viewing of fish  or game                                                                  
     •  Violation  of this  statute  could  result in  a  $500                                                                  
     fine and 30 days imprisonment                                                                                              
     •  Additionally,  AS  16.05.791  allows  civil  penalties                                                                  
     for costs related to violation of AS 16.05.790                                                                             
     •   There   is  a   clear   penalty   for  intentionally                                                                   
     obstructing  or hindering  a trap, even  if it is near  a                                                                  
     public-use trail                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHROEDER  turned to slide 5,  which featured the  headlines of                                                             
articles reporting on animals caught in traps.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:27:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHROEDER  concluded on  slide  6, "HB  12  What  does it  do?"                                                             
Slide 6 read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •     Resolves     ambiguity      about     home     rule                                                                  
     cities/municipalities   powers   to   regulate   trapping                                                                  
     within their boundaries                                                                                                    
     •  Allows  them   to  do  so  "to  protect  persons   and                                                                  
     property within its boundaries?"                                                                                           
     • Nothing  in bill  prohibits exercising  powers of  DEC,                                                                  
     DF&G, or DPS                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK opened invited testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORRAINE TEMPLE,  Director, Safe  Trails Committee Cooper  Landing,                                                             
gave invited  testimony during  the hearing on  HB 12.   Shared her                                                             
experience  with  trappers  in  Cooper  Landing,   explaining  that                                                             
trappers  and recreational  users  are forced  to  occupy the  same                                                             
areas causing  at least  9 dogs and  1 child in  the past  20 years                                                             
to  have encounters  with  traps.    She reported  that  a  50-yard                                                             
setback from  campgrounds was  enacted by the  Board of Game  after                                                             
the Safe  Trails Committee  submitted five  proposals to  establish                                                             
100-yard  setbacks   from  specific  trails,  roads,   campgrounds,                                                             
beaches,  and recreational  areas.    She relayed  anecdotes  about                                                             
close  encounters  with  active  traps  in  Cooper  Landing.    She                                                             
opined that  a safer scenario could  be achieved and allow  for all                                                             
users to  have the  benefit of  wilderness in  their rightful  ways                                                             
with an updated form of management.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:33:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS  sought   to  confirm  that  the  bill  would                                                             
support local governments in implementing their own rules.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  answered  yes and  cited  Article 10  of                                                             
the Alaska Constitution.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:35:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KNEELAND  TAYLOR,   representing   self,  gave  invited   testimony                                                             
during the  hearing on HB  12.  He  provided historical  context in                                                             
the way  of court  cases and  public safety  ordinances related  to                                                             
trapping.   He shared his understanding  that first-,  second-, and                                                             
third-class  boroughs   have  the  statutory  authority   to  enact                                                             
ordinances  that  impact  trapping;  however,  the  state  contends                                                             
that  they  do  not,  he  said,  which  creates   a  jurisdictional                                                             
conflict.   Therefore, the bill is  needed to provide clarity.   He                                                             
explained that  commonly used traps  used in Alaska can  kill small                                                             
children  and dogs.   He  opined that  local  governments are  best                                                             
equipped  at identifying  the  places  that are  inappropriate  for                                                             
trapping.    He  reminded  the  committee  that  HB  12  would  not                                                             
require  municipalities  to enact  ordinances,  and  that doing  so                                                             
would be at the discretion of each municipality.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:42:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK sought questions from committee members.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:43:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE  BAKER asked whether  any municipalities had  made it                                                             
known  to  the  bill  sponsor  that  they  could  not  manage  this                                                             
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON answered no.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE  BAKER asked whether  there are any communities  that                                                             
could not manage this issue without the passage of HB 12.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  responded  yes.   He reported  that  the                                                             
list  of  communities  that  want to  take  affirmative  action  is                                                             
growing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:45:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE asked how  many dogs  or cats are  killed by                                                             
vehicles every year.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON did not know the answer.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE  said   he  was  struggling  with  the  bill                                                             
because he  felt for the animal owners  and pets; however,  he said                                                             
he blames the owners for not keeping their pets under control.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  shared  his belief  that  municipalities                                                             
may want to  grant people the privilege  of walking their  pets off                                                             
leash  without  having  to worry  about  traps.    Furthermore,  he                                                             
opined that  a 50- or 100-yard setback  would not be burdensome  to                                                             
trappers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE asked  whether  it would  be acceptable  for                                                             
the Alaska  Department of  Fish & Game (ADF&G)  to contract  with a                                                             
local trapper to reduce an infestation of muskrats, for example.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON answered yes.   He directed  attention to                                                             
page  1,  lines  9-10  of  the  bill,  which  speaks  to  municipal                                                             
exemptions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:50:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT   referenced  "Grubby"   the  opossum  in                                                             
Homer.  She asked how much of Alaska is available to trappers.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  suspected  that  it exceeds  99  percent                                                             
[of state land].                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  whether,  by the  bill  sponsor's                                                             
estimation,  that allowing municipalities  to govern themselves  by                                                             
setting  aside  areas  free  from trapping  would  have  a  minimal                                                             
impact on trappers' economic activity.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  agreed  that trappers'  objective  would                                                             
not be seriously impeded.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:52:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK  said he wanted to  bring the bill forward  for its                                                             
applicability to rural Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[HB 12 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR 13 Fiscal Note 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 Sponsor Statement 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 MLT Presentation to SCRA 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 Support Documents Received by 1.30.2024 - 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
SJR 13 Version A 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
SJR 13
HB 347 Sponsor Statement (CR&A) 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 Sectional Analysis (CR&A) 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 12 Alaska Municpal League Resolution 2023-16 3.14.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
HB 12 Alaska Board of Fish & Game Trap Safety for Pets Brochure 3.14.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
HB 12 Sectional Analysis 3.14.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
HB 12 Sponsor Statement 3.14.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
HB0012A.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
HB12 2020-2021 Alaska Wildlife Alliance Report 3.14.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
HB 12 Presentation 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
HB0347A.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 Fiscal Note 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 12 Fiscal Note 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 12
CSHB347.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 347
HB 347 Public Testimony 3.12.24.pdf HCRA 3/12/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 347