Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

03/13/2025 03:15 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ HB 89 GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 2 DUI DIVERSION PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                   HB 2-DUI DIVERSION PROGRAM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:18:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 2,  "An  Act establishing  the driving  while                                                               
under  the  influence  diversion  program  for  eligible  persons                                                               
charged  with driving  while under  the influence  or refusal  to                                                               
submit to a chemical test;  relating to judgment for restitution;                                                               
relating  to  suspended  imposition   of  sentence;  relating  to                                                               
records  kept by  the Department  of Administration;  relating to                                                               
operating  a vehicle,  aircraft,  or watercraft  while under  the                                                               
influence  of  an  alcoholic beverage,  inhalant,  or  controlled                                                               
substance;  relating to  refusal to  submit to  a chemical  test;                                                               
amending Rule  9, Alaska  Rules of  Administration, and  Rule 39,                                                               
Alaska  Rules  of  Criminal  Procedure;   and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:18:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MIKE PRAX,  Alaska  State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented HB  2.    He remarked  that  Alaska DUI  laws                                                               
discourage  people from  driving  while  intoxicated; only  about                                                               
one-fourth  of those  with a  driving under  the influence  (DUI)                                                               
charge are  repeat offenders.   Those with DUIs  suffer hardships                                                               
including  the  higher insurance  rates,  loss  of employment  or                                                               
unemployability, and  family strife that often  drive individuals                                                               
into financial  stress and increased  reliance on  state provided                                                               
services.   He  explained that  HB  2 would  offer offenders  the                                                               
opportunity to  have the judgement  on their case  deferred until                                                               
they  complete a  program  designed  to make  them  aware of  the                                                               
consequences  of  drinking and  driving,  while  helping them  to                                                               
recover  from any  substance  abuse issues  they  may be  facing.                                                               
Under  the provisions  of  the bill,  if  offenders complete  the                                                               
program, then the  charges would be dismissed  and the individual                                                               
would avoid  the mandatory  72-hour jail  time, the  $1,500 fine,                                                               
the cost of  SR22 insurance, and the possibility  of losing their                                                               
driver's license  for several  months.   A further  incentive for                                                               
offenders  to  avoid drinking  and  driving  is that  this  legal                                                               
benefit would  not apply if they  were picked up again  for a DUI                                                               
in the succeeding 15 years.   Representative Prax noted that this                                                               
[diversion program]  is described  in Section 1  off HB  2, which                                                               
begins on page 12, line 18.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:22:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL SATTERBERG began  invited testimony on HB 2  by sharing that                                                               
his daughter  was picked up for  a DUI in Oregon,  and that state                                                               
has the DUI  diversion program.  He noted his  time working as an                                                               
attorney, with the  majority of his cases helping  those who have                                                               
been charged  with a  DUI.  He  noted that he  also worked  on an                                                               
ambulance and  witnessed the effects of  drunk driving, including                                                               
fatalities.  He specified that  those driving under the influence                                                               
have made  a mistake  for which they  should be  held accountable                                                               
but they also should  be given a chance.  He  noted that a number                                                               
of states  have enacted this legislation  and it is working.   He                                                               
said the offender  must make the decision within  30 days whether                                                               
to  go through  the  program.   When  an  individual  with a  DUI                                                               
chooses to  enter the program, the  work of the court  system and                                                               
attorneys  is substantially  diminished.   He recommended  making                                                               
the penalty for  repeat offenders stiffer.   He acknowledged that                                                               
the bill  needs some work,  and he made suggestions  regarding an                                                               
individual with  a weapon in  the vehicle and those  with pending                                                               
DUIs.  He  said the key to this [program]  is that the individual                                                               
would have  to make  the decision early,  agree to  plead guilty,                                                               
and upon meeting the terms  and conditions, the guilty plea would                                                               
be set aside, which means no  spike in insurance rates or serious                                                               
impact that takes place with a DUI conviction.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:27:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SATTERBERG,  in response to Representative  Holland, reported                                                               
that  about  80-85  percent of  DUI  convictions  are  first-time                                                               
offenders.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:28:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  MEAD,  General  Council,   Office  of  the  Administrative                                                               
Director,   Alaska  Court   System,   discussed  DUI   statistics                                                               
pertaining  to  Alaska.    She  reported  one  year's  statistics                                                               
showing that there were 1,563  first-time DUI offenders and about                                                               
300 re-offenders, which is approximately 20 percent.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:29:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEAD, in  response  to Representative  Story, discussed  the                                                               
time period  of DUIs going  through the  court system.   Cases in                                                               
which a  person is found to  have a blood alcohol  content of .08                                                               
or  above are  "relatively  fast" because  the  evidence is  well                                                               
established; she  found out from  a judge  in Juneau that  a case                                                               
can  be finished  in 60  or  fewer days.   However,  there is  no                                                               
definitive test for a drug DUI,  and those cases may take a year.                                                               
She said 10-25  percent of DUI cases are  drug related, typically                                                               
methamphetamine or fentanyl.  In  response to follow-up questions                                                               
from Representative Story, she said  she doesn't know the average                                                               
pace for prosecuting  in other states.  She noted  that places on                                                               
the  road   system  will   have  more  DUI   cases.     She  said                                                               
municipalities, including  Anchorage and  Juneau, have  their own                                                               
individual  ordinances for  DUIs.   The  previous statistics  she                                                               
shared were based on statewide statistics.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:34:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEAD,  in response to  a question from  Representative McCabe                                                               
regarding  the indeterminate  fiscal note,  said that  she thinks                                                               
the bill does  not provide a clear picture of  what should happen                                                               
during the  year.  She  said there would be  litigation regarding                                                               
who can be in the program.   She said there are concerns with the                                                               
bill as  drafted that lead  her to  state that it  would increase                                                               
the court's workload.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:35:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEAD,   in  response  to  a   question  from  Representative                                                               
Himschoot  regarding  the bill's  effect  on  the time  spent  on                                                               
cases, said that  the proposed legislation is not  clear on that.                                                               
She  pointed out  that  statute exists  wherein  by "a  suspended                                                               
entry of  judgement" a  person can  plead guilty  [to a  DUI] and                                                               
promise  to  behave  for  a  year  while  on  probation,  get  an                                                               
assessment, and abstain  from committing any more  crimes, and at                                                               
the end  of that, the case  is dismissed.  She  said this statute                                                               
is a time saver.   She said HB 2 is not  modeled on that statute,                                                               
and it  is not clear what  the program would entail  and how long                                                               
it would take  to administer it.  She noted  the bill sponsor has                                                               
been responsive to her comments  recommending ways to clarify the                                                               
legislation.   To a follow-up question  regarding the possibility                                                               
of someone being  able to participate in the  proposed program if                                                               
they could not afford it, she  confirmed that a judge could waive                                                               
the fee  for an  indigent person.   She said  this is  an unusual                                                               
number to  include, as the  court usually  does not charge  a fee                                                               
for  criminal  defendants,  although  they would  pay  for  their                                                               
treatment, if able.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:38:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SADDERBERG,  in response to  Representative Vance,  said that                                                               
DUIs have  a huge impact on  families and can result  in the loss                                                               
of  employment.    He  respectfully  disagreed  with  [Ms.  Mead]                                                               
regarding  the time  these cases  take, stating  that they  go on                                                               
longer than  six months, sometimes  taking over a year,  and part                                                               
of that is that they are backed  up.  He commented on the success                                                               
rate of  wellness court,  which addresses  felonies.   He offered                                                               
further details.   He confirmed that  HB 2 would offer  a program                                                               
that is  an earlier  intervention compared  to someone  who would                                                               
need to take part in wellness court.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:43:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SADDERBERG, in  response to  Representative Moore,  said the                                                               
intention is to create a  program based on successful programs in                                                               
other states.   He  added that  the committee  may hear  that the                                                               
Office  of   the  District  Attorney  ("DA's   office")  has  the                                                               
discretion to  "do deferred prosecution,"  to which  he remarked,                                                               
"The answer is 'yes' but the reality is they don't."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:43:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEAD,   in  response  to  Representative   Story,  said  the                                                               
suspended entry of judgement is,  arguably, unavailable for state                                                               
DUI cases  because the  DUI statute states  that a  person cannot                                                               
get  a suspended  imposition of  sentence, which  is similar  and                                                               
interpreted as  not being  available for  a DUI  case.   She said                                                               
that is  under Alaska's DUI  law.   She explained, "I  brought up                                                               
the  suspended entry  of  judgement because  it's  a similar  law                                                               
that's available  for assaults  or thefts  and things  like that,                                                               
that ...  might be a  similar model  to what's in  this statute."                                                               
She advised that  the City of Juneau does use  suspended entry of                                                               
judgement  for its  DUIs, and  the prosecutor  determines whether                                                               
someone  is  a  first-time  offender with  no  previous  criminal                                                               
record and was  not charged with other crimes in  the case, along                                                               
with  other  factors,  and  people   are  diverted  through  this                                                               
suspended  entry of  judgement successfully  for the  city.   She                                                               
highlighted that it is not available for state DUI crimes.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:45:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK announced that HB 2 was held over.                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 2 Sponsor Statement Ver A.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Version A.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Fiscal Note DOA-DMV-03-07-2025.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Fiscal Note DOA-PDA-3-7-2025.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Fiscal Note DPS-CJISP-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Fiscal Note JUD-ACS-03-10-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Fiscal Note LAW-CJL-03-07-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Backup Conviction or Diversion.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Backup Criminal Justice Diversion and Importance of Retention.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Backup Post intervention Reoffence of DUI.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Support Doc. National Drug Resource Center - DUIDWI Courts Brief.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB89 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Ver A.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 Sectional Analysis Ver A.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Fiscal Note DOA-OPA-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Fiscal Note DOA-PDA-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Fiscal Note DPS-AST-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Fiscal Note DPS-CJIS-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Fiscal Note JUD-ACS-03-07-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Fiscal Note LAW-CJL-03-06-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup1- Fact Sheet.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup2- Protective Orders study abstract.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup3- 2019 Leg Research Report.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup4- Firearm Injuries in Alaska, 2009-2015.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup5- In Alaska, a high bar.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup6 - Abuse victims say gun surrender laws save lives.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup7- Red Flag Laws in the 116th Congress.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup8- JURIST Constitional Case for Red Flag Laws 2019.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup9- ERPOs Reduce Suicides 2.28.18.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup10- gun-violence-in-the-united-states 2022.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 Backup Support Resolution ALPHA.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 Support LTR Alaska Chapter American Academcy of Pediatrics.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Written Testimony Oppose Rec'd 3-12-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Backup Alaska Gun Rights Petition Rec'd 3-12-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Backup Alaska Gun Owners Petition Signers 3-12-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB89 backup11- North Dakota legislative council letter.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
Josephson HB89 table 3-25.xlsx HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Written Testimony Support Rec'd 3-12-25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 2 Sectional Analysis Ver A.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB89.OppositionLetters.McCabeOffice.3.13.25.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 89
HB 2 Memorandum of Law.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2
HB 2 Separation of Powers Explained.pdf HSTA 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 2