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2026-04-29 House Journal

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2026-04-29                     House Journal                      Page 2324
HB 78                                                                                                                         
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                  
House consider the Senate message. There being no objection, it was                                                             
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stutes rose to a point of order regarding confining                                                              
debate to the motion before the house.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker cautioned members to confine their remarks to the                                                                   
motion before the House.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard, citing Sections 92.2 and 94 of Mason's Manual,                                                           
rose to a point of order regarding interrupting a member speaking and                                                           
holding the floor.                                                                                                              

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The Speaker stated that debate could proceed and reminded the                                                                   
members to confine their remarks to the motion before the House.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe, citing Section 96 of Mason's Manual, rose to                                                             
a point of order.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker ruled the point out of order.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe appealed the ruling of the Chair.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall the ruling of the Chair be sustained?" The                                                          
roll was taken with the following result:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SCS CSHB 78(FIN) am S                                                                                                           
Sustain Ruling of the Chair                                                                                                     
Concur                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  19   NAYS:  19   EXCUSED:  0   ABSENT:  2                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster, Frier,                                                                
Galvin, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Josephson, Kopp, Mears,                                                               
Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, D.Nelson, G.Nelson, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, St.                                                              
Clair, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Absent:  Gray, Jimmie                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
And so, the ruling of the Chair was sustained.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson rose to a point of order regarding impugning                                                             
the motives of members of the body.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker stated that the point was out of order.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler, citing Section 101.1 of Mason's Manual, rose                                                            
to a point of order regarding confining remarks to the motion before                                                            
the body.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker stated the point was well taken.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson rose to points of order regarding debate.                                                                

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The Speaker directed the members to continue in order.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved that the House concur in the Senate                                                                   
amendment and recommended that the members vote yes.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The question being: "Shall the House concur in the Senate                                                                       
amendment?"  The roll was taken with the following result:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SCS CSHB 78(FIN) am S                                                                                                           
Concur                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  21   NAYS:  19   EXCUSED:  0   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster, Frier,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, D.Nelson, G.Nelson, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, St.                                                              
Clair, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
And so, the House concurred in the Senate amendment, thus adopting                                                              
SCS CSHB 78(FIN) am S.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved the effective date clause.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall the effective date clause be adopted?"  The                                                         
roll was taken with the following result:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SCS CSHB 78(FIN) am S                                                                                                           
Effective Date                                                                                                                  
Concur                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  21   NAYS:  19   EXCUSED:  0   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster, Frier,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, D.Nelson, G.Nelson, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, St.                                                              
Clair, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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And so, lacking the required 27 votes, the effective date clause was not                                                        
adopted, and the new title follows:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
    SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 78(FIN) am S(efd                                                                        
    fld H)                                                                                                                      
    "An Act relating to the public employees' retirement system and                                                             
    the teachers' retirement system; and providing certain employees                                                            
    an opportunity to choose between the defined benefit and defined                                                            
    contribution plans of the public employees' retirement system and                                                           
    the teachers' retirement system."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    (technical title change)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The Chief Clerk notified the Senate.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SCS CSHB 78(FIN) am S(efd fld H) was referred to the Chief Clerk                                                                
for engrossment.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker stated that the House would stand at ease until 3:00 p.m.;                                                          
and so, the House stood at ease at 12:57 p.m.