HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 7, 1996 1:40 P.M. TAPE HFC 96 - 28, Side 1, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 96 - 28, Side 2, #000 - #102. CALL TO ORDER Co-Chair Mark Hanley called the House Finance Committee meeting to order at 1:40 P.M. PRESENT Co-Chair Hanley Representative Martin Co-Chair Foster Representative Mulder Representative Brown Representative Navarre Representative Grussendorf Representative Parnell Representative Kelly Representative Therriault Representative Kohring ALSO PRESENT George Dozier, Aid, Representative Pete Kott; Carol Carol, Director, Administrative and Support Services, Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs; Patrick Pourchot, Legislative Director, Office of the Governor; Kevin Ritchie, Alaska Municipal League, Alaska Council of Mayors, Juneau; Scott Sterling, (Testified via teleconference), Mat-Su Assembly Borough, Mat-Su; Jay Dulany, (Testified via teleconference), Director, Division of Motor Vehicles, Department of Public Safety, Anchorage; Tim Rogers, (Testified via teleconference), Legislative Program Coordinator for the Municipal of Anchorage, Anchorage; Richard Woodin, (Testified via teleconference), Alaska Airmen Association, Kenai; Bonnie Golden, (Testified via teleconference), Kenai Peninsula Borough, Kenai; Doyle Holmes, (Testified via teleconference), Anchorage. SUMMARY HB 272 An Act relating to municipal taxation of motor vehicles; and providing for an effective date. CS HB 272 was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a fiscal note by the Department of Public Safety and a zero fiscal note by the Department of Community and Regional Affairs. HB 322 An Act authorizing grants for temporary housing 1 assistance during emergencies and disasters. CS HB 322 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a fiscal note by the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. HOUSE BILL 322 "An Act authorizing grants for temporary housing assistance during emergencies and disasters. GEORGE DOZIER, AID, REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT advised that HB 322 had been introduced to improve the administration of temporary housing during state declared disaster emergencies. The legislation was introduced in the 1994 session as HB 421, and passed the House on March 14, 1994 by 40-0. It died in the Senate Rules Committee at the end of the 1994 Legislative session. Mr. Dozier noted that the bill would increase the efficiency of the Division of Emergency Services by removing an unnecessary administrative burden required by current statutory language. Current statutes do not authorize DMVA to make grants to individuals for providing temporary housing during disasters. The Division of Emergency Services is therefore required to provide housing directly to individuals, by assigning staff to contact housing providers, arrange for leases, renew lease arrangements periodically as needed, and generally act as an intermediary between the lessor and the persons using the temporary housing. He continued, that task is administratively burdensome and increases the cost of administering the temporary housing program. Mr. Dozier continued, federal disasters allow granting of funds direct to individuals for them to make their own temporary housing arrangements. Temporary housing in federal disasters is paid 100% by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). To adopt language to authorize the State to grant funds for temporary housing in state disasters would reduce administrative costs, remove liability for the State as a lessor, and reduce government involvement in personal issues. By making an immediate temporary housing grant award payment to eligible applicants, would allow each family in a State disaster to secure housing which best fits their housing needs. Mr. Dozier summarized that two State disasters have occurred 2 recently which have required the provision of temporary housing; the Kodiak storm disaster of November, 1991, and the Tenakee fire disaster of July, 1993. CAROL CAROL, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE AND SUPPORT SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY & VETERANS AFFAIRS, testified in support of HB 322, noting that it would make operations more smooth for the Department. She requested a change be made to Page 1, Line 14, deleting "or" and adding the language "or any other source". Line 14 would then read: "Agency, under private insurance or any other source; as a condition of accepting housing". She noted that addition of that language would allow the Department to apply any sources of help which a victim could need. Representative Brown asked if the new language would include relatives, friends and neighbors. Ms. Carol explained it would and that it would also include the Red Cross. The Department would interview the individual to access the needs. The individual would be reimbursed if they were renting a home temporarily, but if they were staying with family, the Department would not reimburse them. Co-Chair Foster MOVED the conceptual amendment (Amendment was adopted. Ms. Carol agreed with Co-Chair Hanley that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) would make direct grants. This legislation would cover those persons who do not qualify for grants under federal law. Co-Chair Hanley asked the amount the legislation would increase State spending. Ms. Carol thought that it would reduce costs of disasters. At the present time if there were a disaster, the State would provide temporary housing, acting as the rental agent. She reiterated that the legislation would create less cost to the State. Co-Chair Hanley clarified, the legislation would increase the availability and ease in which people get housing following a disaster, while reducing the amount of money that the State would have to spend. Representative Therriault questioned how the administrative function would be paid for. Ms. Carol replied, that the funding would "kick in" when there was a disaster and would be used by the Department to hire temporary employees to address needs resulting from the disaster. Co-Chair Hanley reminded Committee members that some of those costs would be reimbursed by the federal government. Ms. Carol responded to Representative Kelly's question, 3 noting that grants would be distributed following an interview with the person suffering the loss, inquire if that party has private insurance, provide a market analysis of the area rental fees, and then allow them a grant to cover housing needs for three months. She emphasized that there is a cap to the amount granted. The program is available to all victims without homes during disasters, not just veterans. The Division of Emergency Services is located within the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. Representative Kohring questioned the objection indicated previously by the Senate Rules Committee. Ms. Carol understood that in the 1994 Legislation, a limit had been placed on the amount of money available for temporary housing. At that time, the Department decided that the legislation could not work that way. The Department then considered time not money to be the determining factor, explaining that it would be unfair to have one statewide limit placed on temporary housing. Representative Navarre MOVED to report CS HB 322 (FIN) out of Committee with individual recommendations and with the accompanying fiscal note. There being NO OBJECTIONS, it was so ordered. CS HB 322 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a zero fiscal note by the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. HOUSE BILL 272 "An Act relating to municipal taxation of motor vehicles; and providing for an effective date." Co-Chair Hanley explained that HB 272 would allow municipalities that impose a motor vehicle registration tax to increase or decrease the schedule currently set in statute. Currently, there is no provision to change or update the fee schedule. The change would relieve the Legislature of the burden of adjusting rates by legislation. He continued, a municipality electing to change its rates would be required to pass an ordinance in support of the change, and provide written notice of the change to the Department of Public Safety (DPS) at least one year before it would take place. The opportunity for change would be available once every two years. Co-Chair Hanley pointed out that the municipality would pay the one time programming cost for the change incurred by the Department. The Department would collect 8% of the gross as 4 a collection fee; a rate increase would result in a larger base for collection. Co-Chair Hanley emphasized that HB 272 would put the responsibility for change where it belongs, with the municipality. Each municipality should be able to choose reasonable tax rates suited to its needs and situation. The local ordinance provision and the democratic process would sufficiently protect the public from unreasonable tax rates. SCOTT STERLING, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MAT-SU ASSEMBLY BOROUGH, MAT-SU, testified in support of the legislation. He noted that HB 272 would provide a good tool for the municipalities to reform taxes at a local level. He pointed out that roads, transportation and vehicles impose major costs both individually and legislatively. He urged Committee members to give favorable consideration to the legislation. Representative Martin mentioned that he was a strong advocate of local government having the freedom to raise taxes. He thought that the municipalities should be responsible for the tax collection. Co-Chair Hanley explained that would not be an incentive to the State to increase taxes; the municipality would determine the tax level. The fees are set in statute at 8% which is determined by the Legislature. Representative Navarre pointed out that the fees had been raised from 5% to 8% in order to reflect the true costs of administering the program. He informed members that for the municipalities to administer the program would cost 30%. JAY DULANY, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLES, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, testified in support of the legislation and offered to answer any questions of the Committee. PATRICK POURCHOT, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, clarified the Knowles Administration support of the proposed legislation. He emphasized the importance of the fiscal note. Mr. Pourchot stated that the Governor has encouraged municipalities to raise revenues on their own in order to pay for more services. The Governor has agreed that the legislation would be the most efficient way to provide an enhanced revenue source. TIM ROGERS, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUNICIPALITY OF ANCHORAGE, ANCHORAGE, echoed the municipalities support for HB 272. He noted that this legislation has been a municipality priority for the past couple years. Currently, the cost of road maintenance for the municipality is primarily covered by property taxes. 5 The municipality believes if they can adjust the automobile tax, some of the burden will be shifted from the property owner to the user. Mr. Rogers commented that Anchorage has a serious "junk" and abandoned vehicle problem which costs the municipality $100 thousand dollars a year to control. He stated that the proposed legislation would provide the municipalities a more effective tool to address that concern. Representative Martin asked how the legislation would effect the tax cap and if that decision would be presented to the voters. Mr. Rogers thought that shift would stay within the tax cap; instead, there would be a shift to the tax burden. The changes would not require support of the voters but rather approval of the Assembly. RICHARD WOODIN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ALASKA AIRMEN ASSOCIATION, KENAI, spoke in support of the legislation which would provide a means to reduce personal property taxes inclusive of boats and airplanes. He remarked that solution would be "more equitable". Representative Navarre pointed out that a municipality would be precluded from implementing the taxes until 1998. Co- Chair Hanley advised current language in the bill would provide the Department time to make the necessary changes for the smooth operation of fee schedules. BONNIE GOLDEN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), KENAI PENINSULA BOROUGH, KENAI, noted that the Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly and administration support HB 272. She advised that the bill would amend the Alaska Statutes by adding a new subsection to A.S. 28.10.431. If amended, the Statutes would provide municipalities the option of revising the tax schedule as it applies to motor vehicle taxation within their jurisdiction. Revisions could not be made more that once every two years. [Copy of testimony on file]. KEVIN RITCHIE, ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, ALASKA CONFERENCE OF MAYORS, JUNEAU, voiced support of the proposed legislation noting that it was a high priority for both groups he represented. He offered to answer questions of Committee members. Representative Martin asked why the people of the municipality were not given the opportunity to discuss the impact of the new taxes. Mr. Ritchie stated that any change would be made by "ordinance". The ordinance process makes it difficult to pass a tax which would require receiving a community consensus on how to best allocate the burden. Strict allocation of revenue is not usually done on the 6 municipal level, although the intent is honored in almost all cases. In response to Representative Martin's comment, Representative Navarre clarified that fees were raised to reflect the Department's true costs of administering the program. The service provides a "win/win" situation for all parties involved and has been negotiated between the Department and the municipalities for the fair costs of running the program. Representative Martin argued that it would be a win/win situation for everyone except the taxpayer. Representative Navarre stressed that the Department should set the fee by regulation. Co-Chair Hanley pointed out the program would be optional. The language of the legislation would provide that flexibility if desired by the municipality. (Tape Change, HFC 96-28, Side 2). DOYLE HOLMES, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE, testified in support of passage of HB 272. He remarked that it would result in increased revenue to the State. Mr. Holmes noted that the flat tax passed last year, allowed the municipality to make that tax a portion of their revenue source. With passage of the legislation, the Assembly would then be able to implement the flat tax on automobiles which would also increase State revenues. Representative Navarre MOVED that work draft, #9-LS0841\F, Ford, 1/26/96, be the version before the Committee. There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted. Representative Navarre MOVED to report CS HB 272 (FIN) out of Committee with individual recommendations and with the accompanying fiscal notes. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CS HB 272 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a fiscal note by the Department of Public Safety and a zero fiscal note by the Department of Community and Regional Affairs. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 2:25 P.M. HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 7, 1996 1:40 P.M. 7 TAPE HFC 96 - 28, Side 1, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 96 - 28, Side 2, #000 - #102. CALL TO ORDER Co-Chair Mark Hanley called the House Finance Committee meeting to order at 1:40 P.M. PRESENT Co-Chair Hanley Representative Martin Co-Chair Foster Representative Mulder Representative Brown Representative Navarre Representative Grussendorf Representative Parnell Representative Kelly Representative Therriault Representative Kohring ALSO PRESENT George Dozier, Aid, Representative Pete Kott; Carol Carol, Director, Administrative and Support Services, Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs; Patrick Pourchot, Legislative Director, Office of the Governor; Kevin Ritchie, Alaska Municipal League, Alaska Council of Mayors, Juneau; Scott Sterling, (Testified via teleconference), Mat-Su Assembly Borough, Mat-Su; Jay Dulany, (Testified via teleconference), Director, Division of Motor Vehicles, Department of Public Safety, Anchorage; Tim Rogers, (Testified via teleconference), Legislative Program Coordinator for the Municipal of Anchorage, Anchorage; Richard Woodin, (Testified via teleconference), Alaska Airmen Association, Kenai; Bonnie Golden, (Testified via teleconference), Kenai Peninsula Borough, Kenai; Doyle Holmes, (Testified via teleconference), Anchorage. SUMMARY HB 272 An Act relating to municipal taxation of motor vehicles; and providing for an effective date. CS HB 272 was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a fiscal note by the Department of Public Safety and a zero fiscal note by the Department of Community and Regional Affairs. HB 322 An Act authorizing grants for temporary housing assistance during emergencies and disasters. CS HB 322 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a fiscal note by the Department of Military and Veterans 8 Affairs. HOUSE BILL 322 "An Act authorizing grants for temporary housing assistance during emergencies and disasters. GEORGE DOZIER, AID, REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT advised that HB 322 had been introduced to improve the administration of temporary housing during state declared disaster emergencies. The legislation was introduced in the 1994 session as HB 421, and passed the House on March 14, 1994 by 40-0. It died in the Senate Rules Committee at the end of the 1994 Legislative session. Mr. Dozier noted that the bill would increase the efficiency of the Division of Emergency Services by removing an unnecessary administrative burden required by current statutory language. Current statutes do not authorize DMVA to make grants to individuals for providing temporary housing during disasters. The Division of Emergency Services is therefore required to provide housing directly to individuals, by assigning staff to contact housing providers, arrange for leases, renew lease arrangements periodically as needed, and generally act as an intermediary between the lessor and the persons using the temporary housing. He continued, that task is administratively burdensome and increases the cost of administering the temporary housing program. Mr. Dozier continued, federal disasters allow granting of funds direct to individuals for them to make their own temporary housing arrangements. Temporary housing in federal disasters is paid 100% by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). To adopt language to authorize the State to grant funds for temporary housing in state disasters would reduce administrative costs, remove liability for the State as a lessor, and reduce government involvement in personal issues. By making an immediate temporary housing grant award payment to eligible applicants, would allow each family in a State disaster to secure housing which best fits their housing needs. Mr. Dozier summarized that two State disasters have occurred recently which have required the provision of temporary housing; the Kodiak storm disaster of November, 1991, and the Tenakee fire disaster of July, 1993. CAROL CAROL, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE AND SUPPORT SERVICES, 9 DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY & VETERANS AFFAIRS, testified in support of HB 322, noting that it would make operations more smooth for the Department. She requested a change be made to Page 1, Line 14, deleting "or" and adding the language "or any other source". Line 14 would then read: "Agency, under private insurance or any other source; as a condition of accepting housing". She noted that addition of that language would allow the Department to apply any sources of help which a victim could need. Representative Brown asked if the new language would include relatives, friends and neighbors. Ms. Carol explained it would and that it would also include the Red Cross. The Department would interview the individual to access the needs. The individual would be reimbursed if they were renting a home temporarily, but if they were staying with family, the Department would not reimburse them. Co-Chair Foster MOVED the conceptual amendment (Amendment was adopted. Ms. Carol agreed with Co-Chair Hanley that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) would make direct grants. This legislation would cover those persons who do not qualify for grants under federal law. Co-Chair Hanley asked the amount the legislation would increase State spending. Ms. Carol thought that it would reduce costs of disasters. At the present time if there were a disaster, the State would provide temporary housing, acting as the rental agent. She reiterated that the legislation would create less cost to the State. Co-Chair Hanley clarified, the legislation would increase the availability and ease in which people get housing following a disaster, while reducing the amount of money that the State would have to spend. Representative Therriault questioned how the administrative function would be paid for. Ms. Carol replied, that the funding would "kick in" when there was a disaster and would be used by the Department to hire temporary employees to address needs resulting from the disaster. Co-Chair Hanley reminded Committee members that some of those costs would be reimbursed by the federal government. Ms. Carol responded to Representative Kelly's question, noting that grants would be distributed following an interview with the person suffering the loss, inquire if that party has private insurance, provide a market analysis of the area rental fees, and then allow them a grant to cover housing needs for three months. She emphasized that 10 there is a cap to the amount granted. The program is available to all victims without homes during disasters, not just veterans. The Division of Emergency Services is located within the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. Representative Kohring questioned the objection indicated previously by the Senate Rules Committee. Ms. Carol understood that in the 1994 Legislation, a limit had been placed on the amount of money available for temporary housing. At that time, the Department decided that the legislation could not work that way. The Department then considered time not money to be the determining factor, explaining that it would be unfair to have one statewide limit placed on temporary housing. Representative Navarre MOVED to report CS HB 322 (FIN) out of Committee with individual recommendations and with the accompanying fiscal note. There being NO OBJECTIONS, it was so ordered. CS HB 322 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a zero fiscal note by the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. HOUSE BILL 272 "An Act relating to municipal taxation of motor vehicles; and providing for an effective date." Co-Chair Hanley explained that HB 272 would allow municipalities that impose a motor vehicle registration tax to increase or decrease the schedule currently set in statute. Currently, there is no provision to change or update the fee schedule. The change would relieve the Legislature of the burden of adjusting rates by legislation. He continued, a municipality electing to change its rates would be required to pass an ordinance in support of the change, and provide written notice of the change to the Department of Public Safety (DPS) at least one year before it would take place. The opportunity for change would be available once every two years. Co-Chair Hanley pointed out that the municipality would pay the one time programming cost for the change incurred by the Department. The Department would collect 8% of the gross as a collection fee; a rate increase would result in a larger base for collection. Co-Chair Hanley emphasized that HB 272 would put the responsibility for change where it belongs, with the 11 municipality. Each municipality should be able to choose reasonable tax rates suited to its needs and situation. The local ordinance provision and the democratic process would sufficiently protect the public from unreasonable tax rates. SCOTT STERLING, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MAT-SU ASSEMBLY BOROUGH, MAT-SU, testified in support of the legislation. He noted that HB 272 would provide a good tool for the municipalities to reform taxes at a local level. He pointed out that roads, transportation and vehicles impose major costs both individually and legislatively. He urged Committee members to give favorable consideration to the legislation. Representative Martin mentioned that he was a strong advocate of local government having the freedom to raise taxes. He thought that the municipalities should be responsible for the tax collection. Co-Chair Hanley explained that would not be an incentive to the State to increase taxes; the municipality would determine the tax level. The fees are set in statute at 8% which is determined by the Legislature. Representative Navarre pointed out that the fees had been raised from 5% to 8% in order to reflect the true costs of administering the program. He informed members that for the municipalities to administer the program would cost 30%. JAY DULANY, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLES, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, testified in support of the legislation and offered to answer any questions of the Committee. PATRICK POURCHOT, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, clarified the Knowles Administration support of the proposed legislation. He emphasized the importance of the fiscal note. Mr. Pourchot stated that the Governor has encouraged municipalities to raise revenues on their own in order to pay for more services. The Governor has agreed that the legislation would be the most efficient way to provide an enhanced revenue source. TIM ROGERS, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUNICIPALITY OF ANCHORAGE, ANCHORAGE, echoed the municipalities support for HB 272. He noted that this legislation has been a municipality priority for the past couple years. Currently, the cost of road maintenance for the municipality is primarily covered by property taxes. The municipality believes if they can adjust the automobile tax, some of the burden will be shifted from the property owner to the user. Mr. Rogers commented that Anchorage has a serious "junk" and 12 abandoned vehicle problem which costs the municipality $100 thousand dollars a year to control. He stated that the proposed legislation would provide the municipalities a more effective tool to address that concern. Representative Martin asked how the legislation would effect the tax cap and if that decision would be presented to the voters. Mr. Rogers thought that shift would stay within the tax cap; instead, there would be a shift to the tax burden. The changes would not require support of the voters but rather approval of the Assembly. RICHARD WOODIN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ALASKA AIRMEN ASSOCIATION, KENAI, spoke in support of the legislation which would provide a means to reduce personal property taxes inclusive of boats and airplanes. He remarked that solution would be "more equitable". Representative Navarre pointed out that a municipality would be precluded from implementing the taxes until 1998. Co- Chair Hanley advised current language in the bill would provide the Department time to make the necessary changes for the smooth operation of fee schedules. BONNIE GOLDEN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), KENAI PENINSULA BOROUGH, KENAI, noted that the Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly and administration support HB 272. She advised that the bill would amend the Alaska Statutes by adding a new subsection to A.S. 28.10.431. If amended, the Statutes would provide municipalities the option of revising the tax schedule as it applies to motor vehicle taxation within their jurisdiction. Revisions could not be made more that once every two years. [Copy of testimony on file]. KEVIN RITCHIE, ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, ALASKA CONFERENCE OF MAYORS, JUNEAU, voiced support of the proposed legislation noting that it was a high priority for both groups he represented. He offered to answer questions of Committee members. Representative Martin asked why the people of the municipality were not given the opportunity to discuss the impact of the new taxes. Mr. Ritchie stated that any change would be made by "ordinance". The ordinance process makes it difficult to pass a tax which would require receiving a community consensus on how to best allocate the burden. Strict allocation of revenue is not usually done on the municipal level, although the intent is honored in almost all cases. In response to Representative Martin's comment, Representative Navarre clarified that fees were raised to 13 reflect the Department's true costs of administering the program. The service provides a "win/win" situation for all parties involved and has been negotiated between the Department and the municipalities for the fair costs of running the program. Representative Martin argued that it would be a win/win situation for everyone except the taxpayer. Representative Navarre stressed that the Department should set the fee by regulation. Co-Chair Hanley pointed out the program would be optional. The language of the legislation would provide that flexibility if desired by the municipality. (Tape Change, HFC 96-28, Side 2). DOYLE HOLMES, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE, testified in support of passage of HB 272. He remarked that it would result in increased revenue to the State. Mr. Holmes noted that the flat tax passed last year, allowed the municipality to make that tax a portion of their revenue source. With passage of the legislation, the Assembly would then be able to implement the flat tax on automobiles which would also increase State revenues. Representative Navarre MOVED that work draft, #9-LS0841\F, Ford, 1/26/96, be the version before the Committee. There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted. Representative Navarre MOVED to report CS HB 272 (FIN) out of Committee with individual recommendations and with the accompanying fiscal notes. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CS HB 272 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a fiscal note by the Department of Public Safety and a zero fiscal note by the Department of Community and Regional Affairs. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 2:25 P.M. 14