HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE January 24, 1994 1:35 P.M. TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 1, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 2, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 94 - 15, Side 1, #000 - #271. CALL TO ORDER Co-Chair Larson called the House Finance Committee meeting to order at 1:35 P.M. PRESENT Co-Chair Larson Representative Hoffman Co-Chair MacLean Representative Martin Vice-Chair Hanley Representative Navarre Representative Brown Representative Parnell Representative Grussendorf Representative Therriault Representative Foster ALSO PRESENT Major General Hugh L. Cox III, The Adjutant General Commissioner, Department of Military and Veterans Affairs; Jeff Morrison, Director, Administrative and Support Services, Department of Military and Veterans Affairs; Darrel J. Rexwinkel, Commissioner, Department of Revenue; Tracy McGill, Director, Administrative Services Division, Department of Revenue; Ervin Paul Martin, Director (SYSM: MESADES); Alaska Division of Emergency Services; Department of Military and Veterans Affairs; Representative Con Bunde; C.E. Swackhammer, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Public Safety; Patti Swenson, Aid to Representative Bunde. SUMMARY AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEW: Department of Military and Veterans Affairs Department of Revenue HB 18 An Act relating to police protection service areas in municipalities. CS HB 18 (CRA) was reported out of Committee with "no recommendations" and with a fiscal impact note by the Department of Public Safety. SB 19 An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy. 1 HCS CS SB 19 (FIN) was held in Committee for further consideration. AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEWS: DMVA AND DCED (*Copies of log notes, meeting tapes and handouts are on file with the Legislative Finance Division. Contact #465- 3795). Log # DISCUSSION HFC 14-1 Co-Chair Larson convened the meeting of the #000 House Finance Committee at 1:35 P.M. Department of Military and Veterans Affairs (DMVA) provided the Committee a handout (Copy on file) of the FY95 program objectives for the Department. Department to qualify for available federal funds, the State would be required to provide the Amount requested by the Department. He provided an overview of the handout. Department's long range goals and objectives. Services, DMVA discussed the attachment, speaking to the Disaster Relief Fund. The majority of the fund is comprised of federal and money would be available for a major state disaster. budget recommendations requested by the Department. Discussion followed amongst Committee members regarding the "carry forward" funds of the Disaster Relief Fund. Services, Department of Military and Veterans Affairs pointed out that the Department will need $800 thousand dollars for: 1. 2 Air transportation capability; 2. Contract management; and 3. Training for hazardous response fund. practices within the Department for rural Alaska. Major General Cox explained guidelines for hiring are established by a federal mandate. expenditures from the 470 Fund. amendments to the Department's proposed FY95 budget: 1. National Guard Youth Corp Challenge Program; and 2. King Salmon Air Base Operations. of the Department and asked that all programs be adequately funded which would guarantee continued federal funding. HFC 94-14,Side 2 Darrell Rexwinkel, Commissioner, Department of copy of the Department's FY95 Budget Summary. (Copy on file). overview of the handout listing the Boards and Commissions. of the net departmental position increase and decrease. Child Support Enforcement Agency increase requests resulting from federal regulations. He added, the agency netted $50 million dollars in FY94. formula funded programs and summarized the intention of the boards and commissions. 3 list of capital budget requests, followed by the Committee asking questions of the overall budget proposals. meeting concluded at 2:45 P.M. Co-Chair Larson reconvened the full House Finance Committee at 2:45 P.M. in order to discuss proposed legislation. HOUSE BILL 18 "An Act relating to police protection service areas in municipalities." Co-Chair Larson summarized the previous discussion and action taken by the Committee on HB 18. REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE noted the legislation would not be limited to the Municipality of Anchorage and that the fiscal impact could be determined after each service area determined the level desired. The training period would last eighteen months. Representative Brown asked if the Department of Public Safety was currently using funds to protect the areas specified in the legislation. Representative Bunde stated currently, basic level service is available to all citizens of the State although, no additional services would be added to the Hillside area in Anchorage. Discussion followed amongst Committee members regarding the cost of the fiscal note and the services which would be rendered, resulting from that cost. Co-Chair MacLean expressed concern that the legislation could create a statutory problem in Title 29. PATTI SWENSON, AID TO REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE, noted the proposed legislation would provide a constitutional amendment to Title 29 and it would supercede Title 21. She referenced the memo from Tam Cook from Legal Services verifying that information. Discussion followed regarding the differences in protection as offered by the State Troopers and the local police. C.E. SWACKHAMMER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY (DPS), noted that the State Trooper's policy for the Hillside area would reply to life threatening situations. 4 (Tape Change, HFC 94-15, Side 1). Co-Chair MacLean questioned if the State Trooper's would be under the scrutiny of the municipalities with the proposed legislation. Mr. Swackhammer pointed out that there are provisions in Title 29 regarding how service areas can be formed. Representative Therriault MOVED to report CS HB 18 (CRA) out of Committee with individual recommendations. There being NO OBJECTIONS, it was so ordered. Representative Brown MOVED the accompanying fiscal note by the Department of Public Safety. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CS HB 18 (CRA) was reported out of Committee with "no recommendations" and with a new fiscal impact note by the Department of Public Safety. SENATE BILL 19 "An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy." Representative Brown provided the Committee with a summary of MKB Amendment #5. [Attachment #1]. Representative Brown apologized to the Committee for the misinformation provided by the original Amendment #5. She offered Attachment #1 (Copy on file) which would clarify Amendment #5, provided by the Statute of Limitation action. Representative Brown MOVED Amendment #5. Co-Chair Larson requested that the amendment be held in Committee for further discussion with the Department of Law. Representative Brown WITHDREW THE MOTION. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. HCS CS SB 19 (FIN) was HELD in Committee for further discussion. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 3:10 P.M. HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE January 24, 1994 1:35 P.M. TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 1, #000 - end. 5 TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 2, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 94 - 15, Side 1, #000 - #271. CALL TO ORDER Co-Chair Larson called the House Finance Committee meeting to order at 1:35 P.M. PRESENT Co-Chair Larson Representative Hoffman Co-Chair MacLean Representative Martin Vice-Chair Hanley Representative Navarre Representative Brown Representative Parnell Representative Grussendorf Representative Therriault Representative Foster ALSO PRESENT Major General Hugh L. Cox III, The Adjutant General Commissioner, Department of Military and Veterans Affairs; Jeff Morrison, Director, Administrative and Support Services, Department of Military and Veterans Affairs; Darrel J. Rexwinkel, Commissioner, Department of Revenue; Tracy McGill, Director, Administrative Services Division, Department of Revenue; Ervin Paul Martin, Director (SYSM: MESADES); Alaska Division of Emergency Services; Department of Military and Veterans Affairs; Representative Con Bunde; C.E. Swackhammer, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Public Safety; Patti Swenson, Aid to Representative Bunde. SUMMARY AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEW: Department of Military and Veterans Affairs Department of Revenue HB 18 An Act relating to police protection service areas in municipalities. CS HB 18 (CRA) was reported out of Committee with "no recommendations" and with a fiscal impact note by the Department of Public Safety. SB 19 An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy. HCS CS SB 19 (FIN) was held in Committee for further consideration. AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEWS: DMVA AND DCED 6 (*Copies of log notes, meeting tapes and handouts are on file with the Legislative Finance Division. Contact #465- 3795). Log # DISCUSSION HFC 14-1 Co-Chair Larson convened the meeting of the #000 House Finance Committee at 1:35 P.M. Department of Military and Veterans Affairs (DMVA) provided the Committee a handout (Copy on file) of the FY95 program objectives for the Department. Department to qualify for available federal funds, the State would be required to provide the Amount requested by the Department. He provided an overview of the handout. Department's long range goals and objectives. Services, DMVA discussed the attachment, speaking to the Disaster Relief Fund. The majority of the fund is comprised of federal and money would be available for a major state disaster. budget recommendations requested by the Department. Discussion followed amongst Committee members regarding the "carry forward" funds of the Disaster Relief Fund. Services, Department of Military and Veterans Affairs pointed out that the Department will need $800 thousand dollars for: 1. Air transportation capability; 2. Contract management; and 3. Training for hazardous response fund. 7 practices within the Department for rural Alaska. Major General Cox explained guidelines for hiring are established by a federal mandate. expenditures from the 470 Fund. amendments to the Department's proposed FY95 budget: 1. National Guard Youth Corp Challenge Program; and 2. King Salmon Air Base Operations. of the Department and asked that all programs be adequately funded which would guarantee continued federal funding. HFC 94-14,Side 2 Darrell Rexwinkel, Commissioner, Department of copy of the Department's FY95 Budget Summary. (Copy on file). overview of the handout listing the Boards and Commissions. of the net departmental position increase and decrease. Child Support Enforcement Agency increase requests resulting from federal regulations. He added, the agency netted $50 million dollars in FY94. formula funded programs and summarized the intention of the boards and commissions. list of capital budget requests, followed by the Committee asking questions of the overall budget proposals. 8 meeting concluded at 2:45 P.M. Co-Chair Larson reconvened the full House Finance Committee at 2:45 P.M. in order to discuss proposed legislation. HOUSE BILL 18 "An Act relating to police protection service areas in municipalities." Co-Chair Larson summarized the previous discussion and action taken by the Committee on HB 18. REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE noted the legislation would not be limited to the Municipality of Anchorage and that the fiscal impact could be determined after each service area determined the level desired. The training period would last eighteen months. Representative Brown asked if the Department of Public Safety was currently using funds to protect the areas specified in the legislation. Representative Bunde stated currently, basic level service is available to all citizens of the State although, no additional services would be added to the Hillside area in Anchorage. Discussion followed amongst Committee members regarding the cost of the fiscal note and the services which would be rendered, resulting from that cost. Co-Chair MacLean expressed concern that the legislation could create a statutory problem in Title 29. PATTI SWENSON, AID TO REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE, noted the proposed legislation would provide a constitutional amendment to Title 29 and it would supercede Title 21. She referenced the memo from Tam Cook from Legal Services verifying that information. Discussion followed regarding the differences in protection as offered by the State Troopers and the local police. C.E. SWACKHAMMER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY (DPS), noted that the State Trooper's policy for the Hillside area would reply to life threatening situations. (Tape Change, HFC 94-15, Side 1). Co-Chair MacLean questioned if the State Trooper's would be under the scrutiny of the municipalities with the proposed legislation. Mr. Swackhammer pointed out that there are provisions in Title 29 regarding how service areas can be 9 formed. Representative Therriault MOVED to report CS HB 18 (CRA) out of Committee with individual recommendations. There being NO OBJECTIONS, it was so ordered. Representative Brown MOVED the accompanying fiscal note by the Department of Public Safety. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CS HB 18 (CRA) was reported out of Committee with "no recommendations" and with a new fiscal impact note by the Department of Public Safety. SENATE BILL 19 "An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy." Representative Brown provided the Committee with a summary of MKB Amendment #5. [Attachment #1]. Representative Brown apologized to the Committee for the misinformation provided by the original Amendment #5. She offered Attachment #1 (Copy on file) which would clarify Amendment #5, provided by the Statute of Limitation action. Representative Brown MOVED Amendment #5. Co-Chair Larson requested that the amendment be held in Committee for further discussion with the Department of Law. Representative Brown WITHDREW THE MOTION. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. HCS CS SB 19 (FIN) was HELD in Committee for further discussion. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 3:10 P.M. 10