03/21/2013 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION
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| SB13 | |
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                         March 21, 2013                                                                                         
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dennis Egan, Chair                                                                                                      
Senator Fred Dyson, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Anna Fairclough                                                                                                         
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 56                                                                                                               
"An Act  excluding motorcycles and  motor-driven cycles  from the                                                               
passenger  vehicle rental  tax;  and providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 56 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 46                                                                                                               
"An  Act relating  to regulations  adopted by  the Department  of                                                               
Administration  waiving  the  commercial  motor  vehicle  driving                                                               
skills test  for certain drivers  with military  commercial motor                                                               
vehicle experience."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 46 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 13                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to  bonds  of the  Knik  Arm  Bridge and  Toll                                                               
Authority; relating  to reserve funds of  the authority; relating                                                               
to  taxes and  assessments on  a  person that  is a  party to  an                                                               
agreement  with  the authority;  and  establishing  the Knik  Arm                                                               
Crossing fund."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 13 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 56                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: PASSENGER VEHICLE RENTAL TAX                                                                                       
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HOLMES, T.WILSON                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
01/16/13       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/11/13                                                                               
01/16/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/13       (H)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
02/19/13       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/19/13       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
02/19/13       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
02/20/13       (H)       TRA RPT 5DP 1NR                                                                                        
02/20/13       (H)       DP: LYNN, JOHNSON, GATTIS, ISAACSON,                                                                   
                         P.WILSON                                                                                               
02/20/13       (H)       NR: KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                     
02/28/13       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
02/28/13       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
02/28/13       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/01/13       (H)       FIN RPT 8DP 1NR                                                                                        
03/01/13       (H)       DP: COSTELLO, GARA, KAWASAKI, HOLMES,                                                                  
                         MUNOZ, T.WILSON, THOMPSON, STOLTZE                                                                     
03/01/13       (H)       NR: AUSTERMAN                                                                                          
03/05/13       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/05/13       (H)       VERSION: HB 56                                                                                         
03/11/13       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/11/13       (S)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
03/19/13       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/19/13       (S)       -- Meeting Postponed to 3/21/13 --                                                                     
03/21/13       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 46                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: WAIVE CDL SKILL TEST FOR CERTAIN VETERANS                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) SADDLER                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
01/16/13       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/13                                                                                
01/16/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/13       (H)       STA, TRA                                                                                               
02/12/13       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/12/13       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
02/12/13       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/13/13       (H)       STA RPT 6DP                                                                                            
02/13/13       (H)       DP: HUGHES, ISAACSON, KREISS-TOMKINS,                                                                  
                         GATTIS, KELLER, LYNN                                                                                   
02/19/13       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/19/13       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
02/19/13       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
02/20/13       (H)       TRA RPT 6DP                                                                                            
02/20/13       (H)       DP:   LYNN,   JOHNSON,   KREISS-TOMKINS,                                                               
                         GATTIS, ISAACSON, P.WILSON                                                                             
03/01/13       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/01/13       (H)       VERSION: HB 46                                                                                         
03/04/13       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/04/13       (S)       STA, TRA                                                                                               
03/12/13       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/12/13       (S)       Moved HB 46 Out of Committee                                                                           
03/12/13       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/13/13       (S)       STA RPT   5DP                                                                                          
03/13/13       (S)       DP:   DYSON,    WIELECHOWSKI,   COGHILL,                                                               
                        GIESSEL, STEDMAN                                                                                        
03/19/13       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/19/13       (S)       -- Meeting Postponed to 3/21/13 --                                                                     
03/21/13       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 13                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: KNIK ARM BRIDGE AND TOLL AUTHORITY                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) HUGGINS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
01/16/13       (S)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/11/13                                                                               
01/16/13       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/13       (S)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
03/14/13       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/14/13       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/14/13       (S)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/21/13       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LINDSAY HOLMES                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 56.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
NANCY HULL                                                                                                                      
Alaska Motorcycle Adventure                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of HB 56                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JOHANNA BALES, Deputy Director                                                                                                  
Tax Division                                                                                                                    
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions related to HB 56.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAN SADDLER                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 46.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MARC SAN SOUCI, Regional Liaison                                                                                                
U.S. Department of Defense                                                                                                      
Tacoma, Washington                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Expressed support for HB 46.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LAWRENCE BETHEL, Pacific Region President                                                                                       
U.S. Army                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 46.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
AVES THOMPSON, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Trucking Association                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 46.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
AMY ERICKSON, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Motor Vehicles                                                                                                      
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 46.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CHARLIE HUGGINS                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 13.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TOM BRICE, Lobbyist                                                                                                             
Alaska District Council of Labors                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 13.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PAUL GROSSI, Lobbyist                                                                                                           
Ironworkers Union                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 13.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JODY SIMPSON, Staff                                                                                                             
Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Responded to questions on SB 13.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DENNIS  EGAN  called the  Senate  Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:32  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Dyson, Fairclough, French, and Chair Egan.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
               HB 56-PASSENGER VEHICLE RENTAL TAX                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:33:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR EGAN  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                               
HB 56.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LINDSAY  HOLMES, sponsor  of HB  56, gave  a brief                                                               
overview  of the  bill  that  tries to  help  some  of the  small                                                               
businesses in the  state that rent motorcycles  who are currently                                                               
subject to  a 10 percent rental  tax. She explained that  back in                                                               
2003 when  the tax was  passed there  was no discussion  about it                                                               
and it  wasn't clear whether  motorcycles fell into  the category                                                               
of  "passenger vehicle."  The Department  of Revenue  didn't even                                                               
realize until  2008 that there  even were companies in  the state                                                               
that were  renting motorcycles and  when they did  subjected them                                                               
to the 10 percent tax.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Because  of the  climate in  Alaska motorcycles  are only  rented                                                               
about 90 days out  of the year and need to be  stored the rest of                                                               
the  time.  The  average  cost  to rent  one  is  $180-$210  day.                                                               
Packages are sold  to bring people up to  ride motorcycles around                                                               
the  state  and  when  they  do, they  stay  in  hotels,  eat  in                                                               
restaurants and  spend money. This bill  would exempt motorcycles                                                               
from  the definition  of "passenger  vehicles" thereby  exempting                                                               
them from the tax.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR EGAN  noted a letter  from Alaska Motorcycle  Adventures in                                                               
their packets.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
NANCY HULL,  Alaska Motorcycle Adventures,  said they  rent their                                                               
motorcycles from the Anchorage area,  and 2013 will be their 20th                                                               
season  there.  She  supported  HB 56,  because  the  rental  tax                                                               
affects both  motorcycle rentals  and Alaska tourism  in general.                                                               
To offset  the high vehicle  rental tax, her customers  choose to                                                               
rent  for fewer  days  or  choose to  go  somewhere  else on  the                                                               
planet. The season  of 90 days is very limited,  and their rental                                                               
rates are extremely  high. She urged them to get  these people to                                                               
Alaska and  send them  to McCarthy and  Chicken where  they spend                                                               
their tourist dollars in locally owned businesses.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She  added that  she heard  someone  in Whitehorse  was going  to                                                               
start  renting   motorcycles  again,  and  with   the  number  of                                                               
Europeans coming  over from Frankfurt  it would be real  easy for                                                               
them  to get  off  in  Whitehorse rather  than  continuing on  to                                                               
Anchorage. As  soon as  there is a  rental company  in Whitehorse                                                               
they  will definitely  go for  the  best motorcycle  rate or  the                                                               
lowest  cost they  can  get,  and that  would  mean  a lot  fewer                                                               
dollars for  the Alaska  tourist economy.  She would  rather that                                                               
they land  here first and  then go to  the Yukon, so  the dollars                                                               
stay here.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:40:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DYSON asked  if Canadian  businesses face  any different                                                               
rules for renting motorcycles.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HULL said  yes  and  explained that  Canadians  can rent  in                                                               
Alaska  but they  are not  allowed to  take rented  vehicles back                                                               
into Canada.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  said people  will get off  the boat  in Anchorage,                                                               
fly to Whitehorse and  rent an RV and come back  and get the rest                                                               
of their family.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. HULL said law applies to any rented vehicle of any type.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HULL said  that some  customers have  asked her  for a  non-                                                               
logoed motorcycle  that they  take to the  boarder and  just hope                                                               
they  will  be  able  to  go   through  as  if  it's  a  friend's                                                               
motorcycle.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  Ms.  Bales to  comment  on the  relatively                                                               
modest fiscal note.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:44:32 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHANNA BALES,  Deputy Director, Tax Division,  Alaska Department                                                               
of  Revenue,  said  when  the original  vehicle  rental  tax  was                                                               
passed,  motorcycle rentals  weren't  recognized;  once that  was                                                               
discovered they  spoke with the  Department of Law who  said that                                                               
motorcycles  do  fall  under  the   definition  of  a  "passenger                                                               
vehicle." So they  reached out to the companies  and brought them                                                               
into compliance. Based  on most other taxes the  state brings in,                                                               
this  is fairly  insignificant and  is  a bit  difficult for  the                                                               
rental car companies. They have  no official opinion on the bill,                                                               
but at the same time they  want to provide as much information as                                                               
they can and believe it is an "immaterial amount of revenue."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP joined the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  moved  to  report   HB  56  from  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There                                                               
being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:08 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 1:47 to 1:48 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        HB 46-WAIVE CDL SKILL TEST FOR CERTAIN VETERANS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR EGAN  brought the meeting  back to order and  announced the                                                               
hearing of HB 46.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAN SADDLER,  sponsor  of HB  46, introduced  the                                                               
bill. He  said Alaskans  who have honed  their driving  skills in                                                               
service  to  our  country  in   uniform  deserve  to  have  their                                                               
experience validated and  respected in the civilian  world. HB 46                                                               
helps  recent   Alaskan  veterans  get  jobs   and  helps  Alaska                                                               
businesses  get  qualified   drivers  by  acknowledging  military                                                               
drivers already have safe driving skills.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  said that  about  63,000 service  members  had military  jobs                                                               
involving truck  driving in most  recent years  and it is  one of                                                               
the  top  specialties   in  the  armed  services.   Many  of  the                                                               
industries  in Alaska  - tourism,  construction, oil  field work,                                                               
retail -  require drivers to  have a commercial  driver's license                                                               
(CDL). Recent federal law allows  states to waive the road skills                                                               
test  for  the  CDL  if  military  drivers  have  recent  driving                                                               
experience  and a  clean driving  record. They,  of course,  must                                                               
still  pass  the  knowledge  test,  the  division  test  and  the                                                               
physical test.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The federal  Motor Carrier  Safety Administration  is encouraging                                                               
states to  allow such waivers. As  of January 9, 2013,  34 states                                                               
have  waived  the test  for  military  and  10 other  states  are                                                               
working on such waivers and 7 do not current accept the waivers.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB  46   directs  the  Department  of   Administration  to  adopt                                                               
regulations  in accordance  with the  federal standards  to allow                                                               
the State of  Alaska to issue such waivers. HB  46 means jobs for                                                               
Alaska veterans and qualified drivers for Alaska businesses.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR EGAN opened public testimony.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:51:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MARC  SAN SOUCI,  Regional Liaison,  U.S. Department  of Defense,                                                               
expressed support for HB 46. He  said in the past couple of years                                                               
25 states had enacted new laws  to help grant our veterans credit                                                               
towards licensing in  occupations such as the CDL.  The heavy and                                                               
tractor trailer  driving career field  in the military is  in the                                                               
top ten  of all  occupations specialties in  all of  the military                                                               
and the  second highest occupation  in the Army and  the Marines.                                                               
The  Department   of  Labor   and  Occupational   Network  online                                                               
partnership  forecasts the  truck  driving field  as  one of  the                                                               
brightest outlook  fields with a  faster than average  job growth                                                               
rate of 20-28 percent over the next 10 years.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He also pointed  out that the military training  has already been                                                               
paid for by  our tax dollars. There will be  almost 1 million new                                                               
veterans by 2016.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:53:23 PM                                                                                                                    
LAWRENCE  BETHEL,  Pacific  Region  President,  Association  U.S.                                                               
Army,  supported HB  46. Thirty-four  other states  have provided                                                               
this   waiver  to   the  military.   Most  typically   they  have                                                               
substituted two  years of commercial  motor vehicle  safe driving                                                               
in the military for the skills test  and apply this rule up to 90                                                               
days after separation  from active duty for Guard  Reserve or the                                                               
Coast Guard.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He said  the military in  Alaska separates anywhere  from 250-300                                                               
veterans  per month,  mostly at  Joint Base  Elmendorf Richardson                                                               
(JBER).  Typically 10 to 20  percent of veterans intend to remain                                                               
in Alaska.  Their reasons include veteran  friendly residents and                                                               
benefits, great job opportunities,  great fishing and winter fun,                                                               
and a  family friendly environment  with good schools,  low crime                                                               
and  a clean  environment. About  22 of  those JBER  soldiers per                                                               
month have  achieved their Army  driver's badge and many  of them                                                               
are combat soldiers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In general,  Alaska law  requires CDLs  on operating  vehicles in                                                               
excess  of   2,600  pounds   and  those   transporting  hazardous                                                               
materials or when operating vehicles  with 16 or more passengers.                                                               
Waiver of  the CDL  road test for  qualifying military  in Alaska                                                               
will  assist   them  in  numerous   ways.  It   offers  well-paid                                                               
employment in a growing career  field across the country. Service                                                               
members will be able to feel  secure in their career choice. This                                                               
career in Alaska  pays well with a median average  hourly rate of                                                               
$24.23, per  US Department of Labor  2011 figures. It is  also an                                                               
attractive part-time work option  for military who are completing                                                               
degrees or certifications.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Further, this  legislation honors  veterans' selfless  service to                                                               
the  country  and  their considerable  experience  operating  and                                                               
maintaining  a  variety of  complex  vehicles  from 13-ton  light                                                               
transports to  fuel trucks  on highways  and diesels  trucks with                                                               
highly technical equipment, some of  which is valued in excess of                                                               
$2  million.  Most  veterans already  have  considerable  driving                                                               
experience over remote roads to  and from ranges, missile defense                                                               
sites and  exercise or deployments  involving ports,  runways and                                                               
railroads.  Many service  members have  the army  drivers' badge.                                                               
This  badge  requires a  government  driver's  license and  8,000                                                               
miles  of  12-month  of accident-free  driving  with  no  traffic                                                               
violations as well as approval by a lieutenant colonel or above.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The road  test waiver provides  a faster less-expensive  route to                                                               
employment  and decreases  transition stress  for the  family. It                                                               
requires testing in a large  vehicle, which soldiers do not have,                                                               
or enrollment  in a  4-hour $500 or  a $1,000  10-hour commercial                                                               
driving  program. Current  training  programs have  a wait  list.                                                               
Alaskan employers  greatly benefit  from military hires  who have                                                               
this  extensive   experience  operating  in   underdeveloped  and                                                               
hostile  locations.  In  addition,   service  members  are  self-                                                               
disciplined, sensitized to  continue to operate as a  team with a                                                               
safety focus,  think on their  feet and apply good  judgment, and                                                               
understand   corporate  policy's   chain  of   command  and   the                                                               
importance of good communication.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He  summarized that  Alaska benefits  by retaining  more veterans                                                               
and  adding them  to the  workforce  as well  as maintaining  its                                                               
reputation as  one of  the most  supportive states  for veterans.                                                               
This legislation is a win/win  for all parties. He concluded that                                                               
Alaska  veterans  are 16.2  percent  of  the state's  population,                                                               
number  one  in  the  country  per  capita.  With  about  722,000                                                               
residents  in 2011  that means  we have  about 117,000  residents                                                               
that are veterans.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:58:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DYSON noted that  Representative Saddler represents Eagle                                                               
River with the  highest number of military in  the state-north of                                                               
25 percent.  He shares  the honor  of representing  that district                                                               
and  they  are  amongst  the   best  citizens  in  the  state  to                                                               
represent. He thanked Mr. Bethel for his work.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
AVES THOMPSON,  Executive Director, Alaska  Trucking Association,                                                               
said  the  association  represents   nearly  200  companies  that                                                               
support HB  46. As  an industry  they welcome  returning veterans                                                               
and  appreciate  this  opportunity   to  do  something  in  their                                                               
support. These  men and  women have  had some  of the  best truck                                                               
driver  training available  and will  also  have a  good deal  of                                                               
recent hands-on experience  in driving big rigs.  With the proper                                                               
certifications  as  to  a veteran's  experience  the  association                                                               
supported waiving the  skills test for the issuance of  a CDL. He                                                               
was a veteran himself and was proud to support HB 46.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:01:26 PM                                                                                                                    
AMY ERICKSON,  Director, Division  of Motor  Vehicles, Department                                                               
of  Administration, testified  in support  of HB  46 saying  they                                                               
would have to fashion regulations to allow this to happen.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  moved to report HB  46 from committee to  the next                                                               
committee  of   referral  with  individual   recommendations  and                                                               
attached  fiscal note(s).  There being  no objection,  the motion                                                               
carried.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:02:20 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 2:202 to 2:03 p.m.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
            SB 13-KNIK ARM BRIDGE AND TOLL AUTHORITY                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:03:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR EGAN  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
SB 13.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CHARLIE HUGGINS,  sponsor of SB 13,  introduced the bill.                                                               
He  noted that  the  MatSu has  over 50  percent  of the  highway                                                               
safety corridors  in the state  that have safety problems  due to                                                               
congested traffic that  starts at 4:00 a.m. when  an avalanche of                                                               
vehicles  heads  for  Anchorage.  The  infrastructure  in  SB  13                                                               
provides  an avenue  to  start impacting  some  of those  highway                                                               
safety  corridors.  He  said  that   when  tourists  arrive  that                                                               
increases the traffic  headed up to Denali  through these highway                                                               
safety corridors.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He  said if  you live  in Anchorage  right now,  big trucks  haul                                                               
things from  the Port of  Anchorage and with  this infrastructure                                                               
in place they will not have to drive through Anchorage.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR EGAN opened public testimony.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
TOM  BRICE,   Lobbyist,  Alaska   District  Council   of  Labors,                                                               
testified in support of SB 13.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:09:14 PM                                                                                                                    
PAUL GROSSI,  Lobbyist, Ironworkers  Union, testified  in support                                                               
of SB  13. He  said building  the bridge  would promote  jobs and                                                               
lead to more development. He related  a story about how one their                                                               
business manager  who lives  in Wasilla got  caught in  an eight-                                                               
hour traffic jam.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  said the  eight-hour traffic jam  was caused  by a                                                               
fugitive the  police were chasing. He  ran over a tack  strap the                                                               
Troopers put  out and set  his car on fire  in one set  of lanes;                                                               
then got in a gun fight and went  over in the other two lanes and                                                               
died, so  all four lanes  - some  40,000 vehicles -  were plugged                                                               
for eight and  a half hours. There was  significant economic loss                                                               
and a  whole bunch of very  human issues including a  shortage of                                                               
toilet paper. It shows in the  exception how much having only one                                                               
route out  of town can  be a real problem.  It's one of  the many                                                               
reasons they support this project.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:11:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked if the administration supported the bill.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JODY  SIMPSON, staff,  Senator Charlie  Huggins, said  she didn't                                                               
know if the administration supports the bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  noted  that  the  administration  had  been  very                                                               
enthusiastic about  the whole process  and was  disappointed when                                                               
funding didn't go through last year.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SIMPSON  added that the  governor's budget has a  $10 million                                                               
item in it for this project.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  SENATOR moved  to report SB  13 from  committee to                                                               
the next  committee of  referral with  individual recommendations                                                               
and attached  fiscal note. There  being no objection,  the motion                                                               
carried.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 2:13 to 2:15 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:15:00 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair   Egan  adjourned   the   Senate  Transportation   Standing                                                               
Committee at 2:15 p.m.                                                                                                          
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