Legislature(1993 - 1994)
02/10/1994 03:31 PM Senate TRA
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SENATE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
February 10, 1994
3:31 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Senator Bert Sharp, Chair
Senator Randy Phillips, Vice Chair
Senator Tim Kelly
Senator Georgianna Lincoln
MEMBERS ABSENT
Senator Jay Kerttula
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
SENATE BILL NO. 275
"An Act relating to the disposal of real property by the Department
of Transportation and Public Facilities."
SENATE BILL NO. 157
"An Act relating to the control of outdoor advertising."
PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION
SB 275 - No previous senate committee action.
SB 157 - See Transportation minutes dated 3/23/93 and 3/30/93.
WITNESS REGISTER
Commissioner Bruce A. Campbell
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities
3132 Channel Drive, Juneau, AK 99801-7898¶465-3901
POSITION STATEMENT: in favor of SB 275
Deputy Commissioner Helvi Sandvig
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities
3132 Channel Drive, Juneau, AK 99801-7898¶465-3901
POSITION STATEMENT: in favor of SB 275
Ruth Skidmore, Aide
Senate Transportation Committee
State Capitol, Juneau, AK 99801-1182¶465-3004
POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of SB 275
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 94-4, SIDE A
Number 001
CHAIRMAN SHARP calls the meeting of the Senate Transportation
Committee to order at 3:31 p.m.
Number 003
CHAIRMAN SHARP announces that SB 157 (PROHIBITED HIGHWAY
ADVERTISING) has been removed from the agenda by request of the
sponsor.
Number 006
CHAIRMAN SHARP brings up SB 275 (DISPOSAL OF REAL PROPERTY BY
DOTPF) as the only order of business before the committee today.
The Chairman states the Senate Transportation Committee has
introduced the bill at the request of the Department of
Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT). This legislation
clarifies an inconsistency in the Alaska Statutes which has
resulted in the inability of DOT to dispose of property acquired
for airports. The chairman calls the commissioner of DOT to
testify.
Number 030
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asks Commissioner Campbell if he has seen
the language the Department of Natural Resources wants to add to SB
275.
Number 044
BRUCE A. CAMPBELL, Commissioner, Department of Transportation &
Public Facilities, says he will let Helvi Sandvik, Deputy
Commissioner of DOT, address that question.
Number 046
HELVI SANDVIK, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Transportation &
Public Facilities, says the language from DNR addresses cases where
DOT is asking a community to swap land, and it does not seem
appropriate to require that land to count towards the community's
entitlements.
Number 050
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asks if DOT opposes the language DNR wants
to add to SB 275.
Number 052
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL states DOT does not oppose that language.
Number 059
CHAIRMAN SHARP says there are amendments prepared to add DNR's
language to SB 275.
Number 069
SENATOR KELLY asks what amendment #1 would do.
Number 078
RUTH SKIDMORE, Aide to the Senate Transportation Committee, says
amendment #1 would clarify that DOT would have the ability to
dispose of lands involved with the Public Facilities sector of the
department.
Number 081
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS confirms amendment #1 was recommended by
DOT.
Number 084
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL says the language in amendment #1 would
simply enable DOT to have the same authority for all the types of
land swaps DOT needs to be able to do. This will allow DOT to
dispose of lands on a swap basis and a surplus basis.
Number 107
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS says when the committee adopts the
amendments, he would like to make SB 275 into a committee
substitute.
Number 114
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS moves the adoption of amendment #1 to SB
275.
Number 119
CHAIRMAN SHARP explains for Senator Lincoln, who recently arrived
at the meeting, that the main amendment would allow municipalities
to select the land, rather than going back to DNR.
Number 122
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS restates the amendment would allow
municipalities and DOT to deal with each other directly, rather
than going through DNR.
Number 124
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL states the amendment would allow DOT to deal
directly with private parties, as well as being able to deal
directly with municipalities. It would be any entity DOT deals
with.
Number 127
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS again moves the adoption of amendment #1.
Number 130
CHAIRMAN SHARP, hearing no objection, states amendment #1 has been
adopted unanimous consent.
Number 132
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS moves the adoption of amendment #2.
Number 134
CHAIRMAN SHARP, hearing no objection, states amendment #2 has been
adopted unanimous consent.
Number 137
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asks Commissioner Campbell if revenue from
land trades is considered to be program receipts and would go
through the Legislative Budget & Audit Committee.
Number 141
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL says he would have to defer to Ms. Sandvik,
but he believes most of the lands involved are involved in rights-
of-way swaps, and there is not often any revenue involved in the
trade.
Number 146
MS. SANDVIK confirms what the commissioner just said. Very rarely
is money actually involved.
Number 151
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL states if money is involved, it would be a
program receipt and would go into the general fund.
Number 157
SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS makes a motion to adopt the committee
substitute for SB 275 in lieu of the original bill.
Number 164
CHAIRMAN SHARP, hearing no objection, states CSSB 275(TRA) has been
adopted unanimous consent.
Number 166
SENATOR LINCOLN asks if this bill is simply a house-cleaning
measure, or if it relates to a specific problem.
Number 174
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL states though the department has encountered
problems in the past, there are no current problems SB 275 would
address. At this time it is simply a house-keeping measure.
Number 177
SENATOR LINCOLN asks the commissioner if there is any major real
estate which would be affected by SB 275.
Number 180
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL answers there is no major real estate
involved to his knowledge.
Number 183
SENATOR KELLY makes a motion to move CSSB 275 (TRA) from the
Transportation Committee with individual recommendations.
Number 185
CHAIRMAN SHARP, hearing no objections, orders CSSB 275(TRA) be
released from the Senate Transportation Committee with individual
recommendations.
Number 187
CHAIRMAN SHARP adjourns the Senate Transportation Committee meeting
at 3:40 p.m.
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