Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205

04/17/2018 01:30 PM TRANSPORTATION

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 259 CONFINING VEHICLE LOADS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 259(TRA) Out of Committee
+= HB 82 OFF HWY DRIVER'S LIC.;REGISTRATION;INSUR. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                         April 17, 2018                                                                                         
                           1:27 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
Senator Dennis Egan                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Anna MacKinnon                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 259(JUD) AM                                                                             
"An Act relating to containing or confining loads being                                                                         
transported on highways."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SCS CSHB 259(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 82(STA) AM                                                                              
"An Act relating to vehicle registration; relating to off-                                                                      
highway restricted areas; and relating to motor vehicle                                                                         
liability insurance."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 259                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CONFINING VEHICLE LOADS                                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STUTES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
01/08/18       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/18                                                                                
01/16/18       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/18       (H)       TRA, JUD                                                                                               
01/25/18       (H)       TRA AT 1:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
01/25/18       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
01/30/18       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
01/30/18       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
02/01/18       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/01/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/01/18       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
02/08/18       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/08/18       (H)       Moved CSHB 259(TRA) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/08/18       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
02/09/18       (H)       TRA RPT CS(TRA) 1DP 5AM                                                                                
02/09/18       (H)       DP: STUTES                                                                                             
02/09/18       (H)       AM: KOPP, CLAMAN, DRUMMOND, EASTMAN,                                                                   
                         WOOL                                                                                                   
02/21/18       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/21/18       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
02/23/18       (H)       JUD AT 1:30 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/23/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/23/18       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/05/18       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/05/18       (H)       Moved CSHB 259(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/05/18       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/07/18       (H)       JUD RPT CS(JUD) 5DP 1NR 1AM                                                                            
03/07/18       (H)       DP:   KOPP,    KREISS-TOMKINS,   STUTES,                                                               
                         LEDOUX, CLAMAN                                                                                         
03/07/18       (H)       NR: REINBOLD                                                                                           
03/07/18       (H)       AM: EASTMAN                                                                                            
03/15/18       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/15/18       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 259(JUD) AM                                                                              
03/16/18       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/16/18       (S)       TRA, JUD                                                                                               
03/29/18       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/29/18       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/03/18       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/03/18       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/03/18       (S)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
04/05/18       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 82                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: OFF HWY DRIVER'S LIC.; REGISTRATION; INSUR.                                                                        
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/25/17       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/25/17       (H)       STA, TRA                                                                                               
02/02/17       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/02/17       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
02/23/17       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/23/17       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
02/28/17       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/28/17       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/28/17       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/09/17       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/09/17       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/09/17       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/14/17       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/14/17       (H)       Moved CSHB 82(STA) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/14/17       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/20/17       (H)       STA RPT CS(STA) NT 3DP 2NR                                                                             
03/20/17       (H)       DP: KNOPP, TUCK, KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                        
03/20/17       (H)       NR: WOOL, LEDOUX                                                                                       
03/28/17       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/28/17       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/28/17       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/30/17       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/30/17       (H)       Moved CSHB 82(STA) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/30/17       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/31/17       (H)       TRA RPT CS(STA) NT 5DP 1NR                                                                             
03/31/17       (H)       DP: CLAMAN, DRUMMOND, SULLIVAN-LEONARD,                                                                
                         KOPP, WOOL                                                                                             
03/31/17       (H)       NR: NEUMAN                                                                                             
04/08/17       (H)       NOT TAKEN UP 4/8 - ON 4/9 CALENDAR                                                                     
04/10/17       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/10/17       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 82(STA) AM                                                                               
04/11/17       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/11/17       (S)       TRA, STA                                                                                               
03/01/18       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/01/18       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/01/18       (S)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
04/05/18       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAVID SCOTT, Staff                                                                                                              
Senator Stedman                                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained the Senate committee substitute                                                                 
for HB 259.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MATT GRUENING, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Stutes                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Summarized HB 259.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JONATHAN KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 82.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:27:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BERT STEDMAN  called  the  Senate Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:27  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Egan, Wilson, Bishop, and Chair Stedman.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN reviewed agenda.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:28:36 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                 HB 259-CONFINING VEHICLE LOADS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN  called the committee  back to order  and announced                                                               
the  consideration  of [CSHB  259(JUD)AM.]  "An  Act relating  to                                                               
containing  or confining  loads being  transported on  highways."                                                               
Noting that the bill was previously  heard, he asked for a motion                                                               
to adopt the Senate committee substitute (SCS).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:29:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  moved to  adopt  the  Senate  CS for  CSHB  259,                                                               
version 30-LS0917\S, as the working document.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:29:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:30:08 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID SCOTT,  Staff, Senator  Stedman, Alaska  State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  explained that  the Senate  committee substitute                                                               
makes  just one  change. On  page  2, lines  17-18, language  was                                                               
added to  exempt commercial  motor vehicles  that are  subject to                                                               
federal  motor  carrier  cargo securement  standards  implemented                                                               
through state or federal law.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN asked if there were questions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:30:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP stated support for the amendment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN  asked the sponsors   representative if he  had any                                                               
comments on the Senate CS.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:31:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MATT  GRUENING,   Staff,  Representative  Stutes,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  sponsor of  HB 259,  thanked Chair                                                               
Stedman for hearing  the bill and passing it along  if it was the                                                               
will of the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN quipped, For making it better?                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING replied, Yes sir.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:31:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEDMAN   removed  his   objection.  Finding   no  further                                                               
objection, he stated the Senate CS is adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN  asked Mr.  Gruening to  remind the  committee what                                                               
version S does.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  explained that the  bill updates the  confined load                                                               
statutes to  include materials other  than sand, dirt,  rock, and                                                               
gravel.   It  establishes   respective  class   A  and   class  B                                                               
misdemeanor  penalties  if  someone,  with  criminal  negligence,                                                               
fails  to secure  a load  that  results in  the serious  physical                                                               
injury  of another  person or  it results  in $5,000  or more  in                                                               
property damage. The  bill also provides sliding  scale fines for                                                               
other  circumstances. A  number of  exemptions in  the bill  deal                                                               
with  municipal vehicles  that are  maintaining  the roadway  for                                                               
traction, the natural  accumulation of snow, dirt,  ice, mud, and                                                               
similar materials. The  Senate CS adds an  exemption for vehicles                                                               
regulated under the federal commercial motor vehicle standards.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:33:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEDMAN found  no  questions  and asked  the  will of  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:33:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  EGAN moved  to  report SCS  CSHB  259(TRA), version  30-                                                               
LS0917\S,  from  committee  with individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:33:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN found no objection and it was so ordered.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
  HB 82-OFF HIGHWAY DRIVER'S LICENSE; REGISTRATION; INSURANCE                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:33:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN  announced the consideration of  [CSHB 82 (STA)AM];                                                               
"An Act  relating to vehicle  registration; relating  to off-road                                                               
system  restricted noncommercial  drivers' licenses;  relating to                                                               
off-highway  commercial drivers'  licenses; relating  to off-road                                                               
system eligible  areas; and relating  to motor  vehicle liability                                                               
insurance."  He noted  the  bill was  previously  heard and  that                                                               
there were  possible amendments. He  asked the sponsor  to review                                                               
the bill for the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:38 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE    JONATHAN     KREISS-TOMKINS,    Alaska    State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, sponsor of  HB 82, stated  that the                                                               
bill  clarifies the  eligibility criteria  for the  long-standing                                                               
off-highway   drivers   program.   He   explained  that   several                                                               
communities that  had been eligible  for the program  for several                                                               
decades  became ineligible  because of  a new  Division of  Motor                                                               
Vehicles interpretation  of eligibility. When he  looked into the                                                               
matter,  he  saw  the  opportunity to  tighten  and  clarify  the                                                               
eligibility criteria.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEDMAN  asked  Senator  Wilson   if  he  had  a  proposed                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WILSON   moved  to  adopt   Amendment  1,   labeled  30-                                                               
LS0367\J.A.2.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                               30-LS0367\J.A.2                                                                  
                                                       Martin                                                                   
                                                       3/5/18                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                    BY SENATOR WILSON                                                                 
          TO:  CSHB 82(STA) am                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, lines 1 - 18:                                                                                                      
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 29:                                                                                                           
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
        "* Sec. 7. AS 28.22.011(a)(1) and 28.22.011(b) are                                                                  
     repealed."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:36:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN objected for discussion  purposes and asked Senator                                                               
Wilson what the amendment does.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILSON explained that the  purpose of the amendment is to                                                               
require  off-road  motorists  to  carry  vehicle  insurance.  The                                                               
intent is  to make sure  that assessments of property  damage are                                                               
levied  equally  and  that  all lives  are  valued  equally.  The                                                               
amendment simply requires vehicles to  be insured. He pointed out                                                               
that  anyone  can insure  a  vehicle  they  drive, not  just  the                                                               
registered  owner.  He  also highlighted  that  coverage  can  be                                                               
obtained remotely.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  EGAN asked  how  remotely   would be  applied under  the                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILSON explained  that the  amendment would  require the                                                               
294  off-highway communities  the  sponsor  identified to  comply                                                               
with the  same insurance coverage requirements  for motor vehicle                                                               
as communities on the road system.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  EGAN asked  if the  idea  is that  someone who  is in  a                                                               
community that does not have an insurance agent could...                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILSON interjected,   They  could call  any provider  of                                                               
their choice, statewide, to be covered through insurance.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN asked the bill sponsor to comment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:39:55 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  said   he  opposed  the  proposed                                                               
amendment,  primarily because  it goes  beyond the  scope of  the                                                               
bill. He  reiterated that the  bill seeks to clarify  and tighten                                                               
the eligibility  criteria for  the off-highway  drivers  program.                                                               
Whether  insurance is  required  to operate  a  motor vehicle  in                                                               
villages in Alaska, is a long-standing but separate question.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:40:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEDMAN   removed  his   objection.  Finding   no  further                                                               
objection, he  announced that Amendment  1 was adopted.  He asked                                                               
the sponsor to comment.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS restated  the  explanation of  the                                                               
purpose of  the bill that he  provided earlier. He said  the bill                                                               
is a  product of discussions  with DMV regarding  the off-highway                                                               
drivers  program. Amendment  1 changes it to  require everyone in                                                               
all villages in Alaska to carry vehicle insurance.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN asked if he continues to support the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:56 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS replied  he supports the underlying                                                               
bill but  has concerns  with the amendment.  He opined  that most                                                               
legislators  from   rural  Alaska   would  likely   have  similar                                                               
concerns.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:42:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN found  no further questions and  announced he would                                                               
hold HB 82 in committee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:42:19 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Stedman  adjourned   the  Senate  Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 1:42 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 259 - version.S.pdf STRA 4/17/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
J.A.2.pdf STRA 4/17/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 82
J.A.1.pdf STRA 4/17/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 82