04/14/2009 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS
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| Confirmation Hearing for Joseph Schmidt as the Successor to the Alaska Lieutenant Governor. | |
| HJR10 | |
| HB14 | |
| HB156 | |
| Adjourn | 
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| += | HJR 10 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 14 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 156 | TELECONFERENCED | |
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 14, 2009                                                                                         
                           9:03 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Linda Menard, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Kevin Meyer, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
Senator Albert Kookesh                                                                                                          
Senator Joe Paskvan                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING                                                                                                            
     Joseph Schmidt, Successor to Lieutenant Governor                                                                           
          CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 10(HSS)                                                                                       
Urging the United States Congress to improve health care for                                                                    
veterans.                                                                                                                       
     MOVED CSHJR 10(HSS) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 14(STA)                                                                                 
"An Act designating the Alaskan Malamute as the official state                                                                  
dog."                                                                                                                           
     MOVED CSHB 14(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 156                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to municipal  fees charged for disposal of waste                                                               
material   from  the   substantial  rehabilitation,   renovation,                                                               
demolition,   removal,  or   replacement   of   a  structure   on                                                               
deteriorated property."                                                                                                         
     MOVED HB 156 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR 10                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: VETERANS' HEALTH CARE                                                                                              
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) GUTTENBERG                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
01/30/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/30/09       (H)       MLV, STA, HSS                                                                                          
02/24/09       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/24/09       (H)       Moved CSHJR 10(MLV) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/24/09       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
02/25/09       (H)       MLV RPT CS(MLV) 6DP                                                                                    
02/25/09       (H)       DP: KAWASAKI, OLSON, HARRIS, LYNN,                                                                     
                         BUCH, GATTO                                                                                            
03/02/09       (H)       STA REFERRAL WAIVED                                                                                    
03/10/09       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/10/09       (H)       Moved CSHJR 10(HSS) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/10/09       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/12/09       (H)       HSS RPT CS(HSS) 7DP                                                                                    
03/12/09       (H)       DP: HOLMES, COGHILL, SEATON, LYNN,                                                                     
                         CISSNA, HERRON, KELLER                                                                                 
03/25/09       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/25/09       (H)       VERSION: CSHJR 10(HSS)                                                                                 
03/27/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/27/09       (S)       HSS, STA                                                                                               
04/07/09       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
04/07/09       (S)       <Pending Referral>                                                                                     
04/10/09       (S)       HSS AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/10/09       (S)       Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled                                                                       
04/11/09       (S)       HSS RPT 3DP                                                                                            
04/11/09       (S)       DP: DAVIS, DYSON, PASKVAN                                                                              
04/14/09       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  14                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKAN MALAMUTE AS STATE DOG                                                                                      
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) GARDNER                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
01/20/09       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/09                                                                                
01/20/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/20/09       (H)       STA                                                                                                    
02/26/09       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/26/09       (H)       Moved CSHB  14(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/26/09       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/27/09       (H)       STA RPT CS(STA) 4DP 2NR 1AM                                                                            
02/27/09       (H)       DP: SEATON, GRUENBERG, WILSON, PETERSEN                                                                
02/27/09       (H)       NR: JOHNSON, LYNN                                                                                      
02/27/09       (H)       AM: GATTO                                                                                              
04/07/09       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/07/09       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 14(STA)                                                                                  
04/08/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/08/09       (S)       STA, RES                                                                                               
04/14/09       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 156                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALLOWING CERTAIN LANDFILL FEE WAIVERS                                                                              
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) LYNN                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/25/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/25/09       (H)       CRA                                                                                                    
03/12/09       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/12/09       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
03/17/09       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/17/09       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
03/17/09       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
03/18/09       (H)       CRA RPT 1DP 4NR                                                                                        
03/18/09       (H)       DP: KELLER                                                                                             
03/18/09       (H)       NR: CISSNA, MILLETT, MUNOZ, HERRON                                                                     
04/02/09       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/02/09       (H)       VERSION: HB 156                                                                                        
04/03/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/03/09       (S)       CRA, STA                                                                                               
04/09/09       (S)       CRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
04/09/09       (S)       Moved HB 156 Out of Committee                                                                          
04/09/09       (S)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
04/10/09       (S)       CRA RPT  2DP 2NR                                                                                       
04/10/09       (S)       DP: THOMAS, MENARD                                                                                     
04/10/09       (S)       NR: OLSON, KOOKESH                                                                                     
04/14/09       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVID GUTTENBERG                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented HJR 10 as sponsor.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERTA GARDNER                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented HB 14 as sponsor.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PAIGE HILL, Second Grader                                                                                                       
Polaris School                                                                                                                  
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 14.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CIARA BRADY, Fourth Grader                                                                                                      
Polaris School                                                                                                                  
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 14.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SANNE CASSEE, Second Grader                                                                                                     
Polaris School                                                                                                                  
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 14.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MAEVE WILEY, Third Grader                                                                                                       
Polaris School                                                                                                                  
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 14.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RYAN TERRY, Fifth Grader                                                                                                        
Polaris School                                                                                                                  
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 14.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DUNCAN WRIGHT, Fifth Grader                                                                                                     
Polaris School                                                                                                                  
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 14.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB LYNN                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented HB 156.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MARK MARLOW, Contractor/Developer                                                                                               
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 156.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SHAWN EVANS, Commercial Realtor                                                                                                 
Alaska Commercial Property                                                                                                      
Fairbanks AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HB 156.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:03:30 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  LINDA  MENARD called  the  Senate  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at  9:03  a.m.  Senators  Kookesh,                                                               
Paskvan, and Menard  were present at the call  to order. Senators                                                               
French and Meyer arrived later.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Confirmation hearing for Joseph Schmidt as the successor to the                                                            
Alaska Lieutenant Governor.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:04:10 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MENARD  announced  the  confirmation  hearing  for  Joseph                                                               
Schmidt for  the Lieutenant Governor's  successor. "We  did speak                                                               
to this in our committee." So she asked the committee to sign.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD  said "I  would like  to move HJR  31, which  is the                                                               
'Support Soldiers  Burial Designations,' to be  considered as the                                                               
Senate  bill. We  did already  have that  companion bill,  Senate                                                               
Bill Resolution  18. So it's  the exact one,  so if it's  OK with                                                               
the committee ... I'd like to waive that out of committee."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH said it is fine with him. The others agreed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                  HJR 10-VETERANS' HEALTH CARE                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD announced the consideration of CSHJR 10(HSS).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:50 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE DAVID  GUTTENBERG, Alaska State  Legislature, said                                                               
this resolution  asks the federal  government to do a  better job                                                               
with veteran  healthcare. Alaska  veterans often have  to travel,                                                               
sometimes to Seattle, to get proper  care. There are a variety of                                                               
clinics across  the state  that are  available, "but  they're not                                                               
V.A.  [Veterans   Administration]."  HJR  10  asks   the  federal                                                               
government to have  V.A. benefits "follow the vet"  instead of be                                                               
anchored in a  facility. It will strengthen the  local economy by                                                               
keeping the money  in communities, and it will  allow veterans to                                                               
get better health care closer to where they live.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH moved to report CS  for HJR 10 from committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There                                                               
being no objection, CSHJR 10(HSS) moved from committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
              HB  14-ALASKAN MALAMUTE AS STATE DOG                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:10:26 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MENARD announced the consideration  of HB 14. [CSHB 14(STA)                                                               
was before the committee.]                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERTA  GARDNER, Alaska State Legislature,  said HB
14 was brought to her by  students of Polaris K-12 School. It was                                                               
entirely their idea.  "Everything in here was written  by them or                                                               
elicited  by those  kids." They  did the  sponsor statement,  the                                                               
request  for hearing,  and all  of the  testimony. She  asked the                                                               
students  why they  chose the  Malamute  as the  state dog.  They                                                               
persuaded her with their answers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:12:21 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MENARD  said she has been  in the school system  for a long                                                               
time, and this  group of students has  articulated their position                                                               
well. She loves  the idea of having a state  dog. Alaska is young                                                               
and, doesn't have the traditions  and "the symbolic things that I                                                               
would like to  see in our state." Some states  have 180 different                                                               
things  on   their  calendar.  About   20  percent   of  Alaska's                                                               
population is  in kindergarten through  12th grade.  Students get                                                               
excited  about celebrating  state  dog day  or  Seward's Day.  It                                                               
stimulates history discussions with teachers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:14:45 AM                                                                                                                    
PAIGE  HILL, second  grade, Polaris  School, Anchorage,  said her                                                               
grandmother from North Carolina visited  Ms. Hill when she was in                                                               
kindergarten.  Her grandmother  went  to her  classroom and  said                                                               
North  Carolina had  a  state  dog. Ms.  Hill  then learned  that                                                               
Alaska didn't have  one. This is where it all  began. The teacher                                                               
helped her  students investigate  how to get  a state  dog. After                                                               
lots of  discussion, the  students narrowed the  dog down  to two                                                               
types: husky  and Malamute. They  voted for the  Alaska Malamute.                                                               
It has been  in Alaska for thousands  of years and is  one of the                                                               
12  ancient breeds.  It  is the  only dog  native  to the  United                                                               
States. Two  other classes  joined her  class in  researching the                                                               
Malamute. Once  people understand  this dog's history,  they will                                                               
realize  it should  be the  official  state dog.  "Thank you  for                                                               
taking our bill seriously."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CIARA BRADY, fourth grade, Polaris  School, said some people feel                                                               
that  the Alaska  husky  should be  the state  dog,  but all  the                                                               
students  were convinced  that  it should  be  the Malamute.  The                                                               
Malamute was developed for a  particular purpose. Arctic settlers                                                               
as long  ago as 5,000 years  or more had heavy  sleds loaded with                                                               
supplies.  Arctic  explorers  could  travel  for  weeks  on  end.                                                               
Malamutes  helped  during  the  gold  rush.  Throughout  Alaska's                                                               
history people  have needed animals  to help. "They got  all that                                                               
and more  from the Alaska  Malamute." They are smart,  loyal, and                                                               
work well with  people. They were treated as part  of the family,                                                               
and  often  helped  raise the  children.  Theoretically,  today's                                                               
Malamutes can do  the same job as their  ancestors. They continue                                                               
to be the same amazing  dogs. The Malamute represents the Alaskan                                                               
character: proud,  independent, and sometimes even  stubborn. The                                                               
Malamute is huge, just like Alaska.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:19:05 AM                                                                                                                    
SANNE CASSEE, second grade, Polaris  School, said the Malamute is                                                               
named  after  the Malamute  tribe  from  the shores  of  Kotzebue                                                               
Sound. Archeologists  have found ancient bone  and ivory carvings                                                               
showing  the Malamute  from up  to 20,000  years ago.  Recent DNA                                                               
analysis confirms that  the Alaska Malamute is one  of the oldest                                                               
breeds of  dogs. It  is the only  one out of  150 breeds  that is                                                               
native to  the United  States. The Alaska  Malamute was  used for                                                               
pulling thousands  of pounds and not  as a racing dog.  The Inuit                                                               
used  them  for  hunting  seals and  tracking  polar  bears.  The                                                               
Malamute was  so widely respected  that Eskimos who  lived inland                                                               
traveled to  Kotzebue Sound to trade  furs for the dogs.  This is                                                               
how  the  Alaska Malamute  found  its  way  to other  regions  of                                                               
Alaska. Gold  miners wanted big  dogs to freight  their supplies,                                                               
and no  other dog,  no matter  how big, could  come close  to the                                                               
strength and ability of the Alaska Malamute.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:21:59 AM                                                                                                                    
MAEVE  WILEY,  third  grade,  Polaris  School,  said  the  Alaska                                                               
Malamute  babysat children  while  their Inuit  parents were  out                                                               
hunting. This is  one of the reasons they make  good pets, unlike                                                               
many  other northern  breeds.  They are  so  gentle human  babies                                                               
snuggled  up   with  puppies.  This  partnership   was  used  for                                                               
survival.  Malamutes helped  with  hunting  and hauling  supplies                                                               
between  camps. They  looked out  for bears  and guarded  caribou                                                               
herds.   Russian  and   European  explorers   saw  this   amazing                                                               
connection  between the  people  and their  dogs. Malamutes  have                                                               
affectionate  dispositions. Early  explorers often  reported this                                                               
superior type  of dog.  They were  easy going  and capable  of an                                                               
enormous  amount of  work. When  Captain Cook  was looking  for a                                                               
trading  route,  he  was  very   impressed  by  the  hard-working                                                               
Malamute that got  along with humans. Prospectors  would pay $500                                                               
for one. Many  dogs were being brought to Alaska  during the gold                                                               
rush.  In an  effort to  make  them bigger  and stronger,  miners                                                               
crossed them  with Malamutes.  The breed  was almost  lost during                                                               
that  era, but  a  few enthusiasts  did their  best  to save  the                                                               
breed.  By 1908  dog racing  was becoming  popular. The  Siberian                                                               
husky  was imported  in 1908.  In an  effort to  get faster  dogs                                                               
people continued  to mix  them. The concept  of the  Alaska husky                                                               
emerged. Dog  mushing with huskies  is the official  state sport.                                                               
Huskies  are already  recognized by  this, but  the husky  cannot                                                               
match the long history of the Malamute.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:26:30 AM                                                                                                                    
RYAN  TERRY, fifth  grade, Polaris  School, said  long after  the                                                               
gold  rush the  Malamute was  still valued  for hauling  freight.                                                               
They were  easy to  care for  and could  carry heavy  loads. They                                                               
helped haul  mail and  bush supplies.  Native and  white Alaskans                                                               
continued use them  for travel, hunting, and  mail delivery. When                                                               
ships  couldn't  reach  Alaska's  harbors in  winter,  dog  teams                                                               
carried mail through 1,000 miles  of Alaskan terrain in relays of                                                               
300 miles each.  Malamutes were the Big Mac trucks  of their day.                                                               
During the  1925 serum run to  Nome, about 150 sled  dogs relayed                                                               
diphtheria  antitoxin 674  miles in  a record-breaking  5.5 days,                                                               
saving  Nome  from a  terrible  epidemic.  In  World War  I,  the                                                               
Malamute was  called into service  by the French  government. The                                                               
Nome kennel club shipped 450  Alaska Malamutes, sleds, harnesses,                                                               
and two  tons of  dried salmon  to France  where the  dogs easily                                                               
tackled the harsh  conditions and moved troops that  were cut off                                                               
from mountain  passes in far  reaching outposts. The  dogs pulled                                                               
weapons across  frozen ground. They  served as search  and rescue                                                               
dogs and  sniffed out mines.  The military  tried to use  them as                                                               
guard  dogs but  they failed  that test  because they  just liked                                                               
people too much to attack someone.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:29:30 AM                                                                                                                    
DUNCAN WRIGHT, fifth  grade, Polaris School, asked  people to set                                                               
aside biases about  their favorite breed of dog  and consider the                                                               
intent behind HB 14. The Alaska  Malamute has been here for 5,000                                                               
years, representing  the entire  history of  Alaska. It  has been                                                               
here since  the first people  arrived. They survived  and thrived                                                               
in one of the harshest  environments on earth. The Malamute lived                                                               
as part  of their human family,  helping to hunt, haul,  and care                                                               
for children.  He read of  Malamutes snuggling and  sleeping with                                                               
children to keep them warm  and sometimes staying back to babysit                                                               
the children  when adults went to  hunt. The Malamute went  on to                                                               
impress  explorers, settlers,  and miners.  They participated  in                                                               
Arctic  and  Antarctic explorations,  were  heroes  in the  world                                                               
wars,  helped in  the serum  run, and  hauled massive  amounts of                                                               
freight  and mail  to remote  parts of  Alaska. The  Malamute has                                                               
been involved in Alaska's history  every step of the way. Huskies                                                               
were bred by outsiders and  came mostly from outside stock. Thank                                                               
goodness that  a few  good people saved  the Malamute  breed. The                                                               
legacy of the Alaska Malamute speaks for itself.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:33:12 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  said it  tickled her  when Representative                                                               
Joule from Kotzebue said people  in Bethel called him a Malamute,                                                               
an  ancient name  of some  of the  Inuit people.  So the  term is                                                               
still used.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN  moved  to  report HB  14  from  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There                                                               
being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER clarified  that there  is a  CS from  the                                                               
House State Affairs committee. It capitalizes Malamute.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  moved to rescind  the action  to move HB  14 from                                                               
committee. There was no objection.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PASKVAN moved to report CS  for HB 14 from committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There                                                               
being no objection, CSHB 14(STA) moved out of committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          HB 156-ALLOWING CERTAIN LANDFILL FEE WAIVERS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD announced the consideration of HB 156.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:39:15 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE BOB LYNN, Alaska  State Legislature, Sponsor, said                                                               
HB  156 amends  Alaska  statute  to permit  --  not  require -  a                                                               
municipality to waive the tipping  fee at landfills for materials                                                               
from  renovating  deteriorated  properties.  It  is  good  public                                                               
policy and  won't cost  the state  a dime. It  will make  it more                                                               
economically feasible  to renovate dilapidated properties  to the                                                               
benefit of communities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MARK  MARLOW, Contractor/Developer,  Anchorage, said  the genesis                                                               
of  HB 156  was a  local ordinance  in the  Fairbanks North  Star                                                               
Borough  to assist  in a  renovation of  a deteriorated  downtown                                                               
property. The  local assembly passed  an ordinance for  a tipping                                                               
fee waiver, but it may  have been challengeable. The solution was                                                               
"to define deteriorated  property in AS 29.35 as  it's defined in                                                               
AS  29.45 to  create  a class  of property  that  is eligible  to                                                               
receive  these  waivers."   Municipalities  aren't  obligated  to                                                               
extend this benefit but will be able to with this bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:43:37 AM                                                                                                                    
SHAWN  EVANS,  Realtor,  Alaska Commercial  Property,  Fairbanks,                                                               
urged  the passage  of  HB 156.  It makes  projects  like this  a                                                               
little more feasible. The Polaris Hotel  has been a blight on the                                                               
city of  Fairbanks; it is an  eyesore and has vagrants.  The bill                                                               
will help  generate a little  more life into  downtown Fairbanks.                                                               
It will not cost the state anything.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD asked if the municipality would lose revenue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  said obviously  they would lose  the tipping                                                               
fee,  but they  will be  renovating  property so  he assumes,  by                                                               
adding to the tax roll, it will be positive in the end.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD asked if a homeowner can get a waiver.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:46:08 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN said  the bill  precludes homeowners;  it is                                                               
limited to deteriorated commercial property.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MENARD noted  that in  Canada property  taxes are  reduced                                                               
when  someone improves  their property.  It  is frustrating  that                                                               
Alaska increases the assessment when improvements are made.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  said the  bill includes  commercial property                                                               
and residential buildings with at  least eight units, and it must                                                               
meet  one of  the following  requirements: within  the last  five                                                               
years  it  has been  subject  to  environmental remediation;  the                                                               
property is  vacated, condemned, or demolished;  the structure is                                                               
not less  than 15  years old;  or is  located in  a deteriorating                                                               
area as determined by the municipality.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD said  Senator Paskvan provided her  with the statute                                                               
that has a clear definition of deteriorated property.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH said  he supports the bill, but  the definition is                                                               
somewhat   remarkable.  "It   basically   means  all   commercial                                                               
property,  no matter  what its  state of  construction. It  could                                                               
have been built  yesterday." It refers to "real  property that is                                                               
commercial property not used for residential purposes."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN  said  the  language goes  on  to  list  certain                                                               
requirements, [which Representative Lynn just listed.]                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:49:47 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FRENCH  said  he  thinks it  refers  to  all  commercial                                                               
property.  Then  he said  he  could  read  it another  way.  "I'm                                                               
tending now to see it Senator Paskvan's way."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN  said it  defines  an  eight-plex (or  more)  as                                                               
commercial.  Within  that  category of  commercial  property  the                                                               
building needs to meet those requirements.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD  said she appreciates that  a building has to  be at                                                               
least five years old.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PASKVAN said it refers to having been subject to an                                                                     
order in the last five years - meaning that it is condemned,                                                                    
demolished, or vacated. It can't be less than 15 years old.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:51:38 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH moved to report HB 156 from committee with                                                                       
individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s). There                                                                   
being no objection, HB 156 moved out of committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:52:38 AM.                                                                                                                   
The meeting was adjourned at 9:52 a.m.                                                                                          
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