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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE
February 26, 2004
3:33 p.m.
TAPE (S) 04-11&12
MEMBERS PRESENT
Senator Gary Stevens, Chair
Senator John Cowdery, Vice Chair
Senator Bert Stedman
Senator Lyman Hoffman
MEMBERS ABSENT
Senator Gretchen Guess
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
SENATE BILL NO. 227
"An Act relating to municipal initiative and referendum
elections."
MOVED CSSB 227(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE
SENATE BILL NO. 327
"An Act relating to pedestrians using rollerblades, roller
skates, and similar devices."
MOVED CSSB 327(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE
SENATE BILL NO. 316
"An Act relating to motor vehicle safety belt violations."
MOVED SB 316 OUT OF COMMITTEE
SENATE BILL NO. 245
"An Act relating to retirement contributions and benefits under
the public employees' retirement system of certain harbor
officers."
HEARD AND HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: SB 227
SHORT TITLE: MUNI INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM ELECTIONS
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) STEVENS G
05/15/03 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
05/15/03 (S) CRA, STA
02/18/04 (S) CRA AT 1:30 PM FAHRENKAMP 203
02/18/04 (S) Moved SB 227 Out of Committee
02/18/04 (S) MINUTE(CRA)
02/19/04 (S) CRA RPT 4DP 1NR
02/19/04 (S) DP: STEDMAN, LINCOLN, WAGONER,
02/19/04 (S) STEVENS G; NR: ELTON
02/24/04 (S) STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211
02/24/04 (S) Heard & Held
02/24/04 (S) MINUTE(STA)
02/26/04 (S) STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211
BILL: SB 327
SHORT TITLE: ROLLERBLADERS REGULATED LIKE BICYCLES
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) SEEKINS
02/13/04 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/13/04 (S) STA, FIN
02/26/04 (S) STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211
BILL: SB 316
SHORT TITLE: SEAT BELT VIOLATION AS PRIMARY OFFENSE
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) BUNDE
02/11/04 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/11/04 (S) STA, JUD
02/26/04 (S) STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211
BILL: SB 245
SHORT TITLE: PERS BENEFITS FOR HARBOR OFFICERS
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) ELTON
01/12/04 (S) PREFILE RELEASED 1/2/04
01/12/04 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/12/04 (S) STA, FIN
02/26/04 (S) STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211
WITNESS REGISTER
Doug Letch
Alaska State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801-1182
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 227
Senator Ralph Seekins
Alaska State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801-1182
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 327
Brian Hove
Alaska State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801-1182
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 327
Al Storey
Alaska State Trooper
Department of Public Safety
PO Box 111200
Juneau, AK 99811-1200
POSITION STATEMENT: Expressed concerns about SB 327 and
commented favorably on SB 316
Dan Yaunt
Fairbanks, AK 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposed SB 327
Wendall Waters
Fairbanks, AK 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposed SB 327
Mike Kramer
Fairbanks, Alaska 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 327
Dick Flaharty
Fairbanks, AK 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 327
Aelin Peterson
Fairbanks, AK 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 327
Richard Doering
Fairbanks, AK 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 327
Senator Con Bunde
Alaska State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801-1182
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 316
Mark Johnson
Department of Health &
Social Services
PO Box 110601
Juneau, AK 99801-0601
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 316
Curt Winston
Regional Administrator
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Seattle, WA
Don Smith
Department of Transportation &
Public Facilities
3132 Channel Dr.
Juneau, AK 99801-7898
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 316
Cindy Cashen
Executive Director, MAAD Juneau Chapter
Juneau, AK 99801
Peggy Hyashe
Registered Nurse
Anchorage, AK 99513
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 316
Kevin Quinlin
National Transportation Safety Board
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 316
Corlus Taylor
Fairbanks, AK 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 316
Linda Wilson
Deputy Director
Public Defender Agency
Department of Administration
PO Box 110200
Juneau, AK 99811-0200
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 316
Marie Lavine
AK Public Health Association
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 316
Sgt. Dan Welborn
Fairbanks Police Department
Fairbanks, AK 99707
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 316
Joan Diamond
Municipality of Anchorage
4501 South Bragaw
Anchorage, AK 99508
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 316
Chief Walt Monagan
Anchorage Police Department
Anchorage, AK 99508
Senator Kim Elton
Alaska State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801-1182
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor SB 245
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 04-11, SIDE A
CHAIR GARY STEVENS called the Senate State Affairs Standing
Committee meeting to order at 3:33 p.m. Present were Senators
Cowdery, Stedman, and Chair Gary Stevens.
SB 227-MUNI INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM ELECTIONS
CHAIR GARY STEVENS announced SB 227 to be up for consideration
and asked for a motion to adopt the proposed committee
substitute (CS) as the working document.
SENATOR JOHN COWDERY motioned to adopt committee substitute (CS)
SB 227, \D version, as the working document. There being no
objection, it was so ordered.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS noted that the CS addresses the questions
that were raised at the last hearing. He asked Mr. Letch to
elaborate.
DOUG LETCH, staff to sponsor, Senator Gary Stevens explained
that the CS clearly gives municipalities the option of putting a
referendum or initiative question before voters at a regularly
scheduled election or at a special election that is already
scheduled. If a special election is not already scheduled and
the local governing body determines that it is in the best
interest of the municipality to address the issue before the
next regular election, which may be up to 14 months away, they
may by ordinance order a special election to be held within 75
days, but not sooner than 45 days after the referendum or
initiative petition is certified.
SENATOR COWDERY asked if the election would happen between 60
and 75 days.
MR. LETCH said that is correct. This gives greater flexibility
to the governing body in a municipality.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS added that the CS addresses Senator Guess's
concerns. Although she couldn't attend the hearing, she said she
was satisfied with the change. He asked for the pleasure of the
committee.
SENATOR COWDERY motioned to move CSSB 227(STA), \D version, from
committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal
note. There being no objection, it was so ordered.
SB 327-ROLLERBLADERS REGULATED LIKE BICYCLES
CHAIR GARY STEVENS announced SB 327 to be up for consideration.
He asked Senator Seekins to step forward.
SENATOR RALPH SEEKINS, sponsor of SB 327, read the title of the
bill and the following sponsor statement:
For many years roller-skiers' legal use of public
roadways was, more or less, taken for granted. This
assumption was successfully challenged in the
Fairbanks area last fall. SB 327 seeks to remedy this
situation by specifically allowing the use of
particular wheeled devices on those public roadways
also available to bicyclists. It also recommends a set
of safety standards for the use of these devices.
Alaska is home to some of the best international,
national, collegiate, and junior cross-country skiers
on the planet. In fact, seven of the ten Alaskans
competing in the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake
City were cross-country skiers. Imagine that. Seven
Olympic cross-country skiers from such a small state
as ours! This speaks volumes not only about our
skiers' work ethic but also their training
opportunities.
The natural preference of many of these world-class
athletes would, no doubt, have Alaska covered in snow
year-round. Since this is not a reasonable near-term
possibility, the use of wheeled skis to imitate snow
skiing has grown to become an effective training tool
for use during non-winter months. What's more, Alaska
is becoming well known nationally and internationally
as a favored summer-time training site.
For these reasons, it is the intent of the proposed
legislation to accommodate this seasonal use of some
of our roadways. In fact, other northern locales -
such as Norway, Sweden and Canada - have, for many
years, supported the efforts of their cross-country
athletes with similar provisions. Furthermore, the
proposed legislation borrows heavily from Cross
Country Canada's policy respecting the use of roller-
skis on public roads.
SB 327 seeks to accommodate this important training
activity by utilizing safe and reasonable methods for
sharing roadway surfaces with motorized vehicles. It
has garnered a groundswell of support throughout the
cross-country community ranging from Alaska's Inter
region to Southcentral to the Kenai Peninsula.
The 2006 Winter Olympic games are just around the
corner. Would it be too much to expect seven (or more)
of our cross-country skiers to make the trip to
Torino, Italy? Of course not! In fact, a little
courtesy and common sense combined with a small
statutory revision can help make it happen.
SENATOR JOHN COWDERY questioned the title because roller skis
weren't specifically listed.
SENATOR SEEKINS replied they are covered under the term "similar
devices."
SENATOR COWDERY wanted it a matter of record the intent is to
include roller skis.
SENATOR SEEKINS agreed adding that he didn't intend to include
skateboards.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS asked whether unicycles would be included.
SENATOR SEEKINS replied unicycles aren't covered because they
aren't in the pedestrian class. He intended to include only
those devices that are used on your feet.
SENATOR COWDERY asked if these devices could be used on any
roads or would certain ones be designated while others would be
off limits. He also questioned how this state law would
correlate with municipality restrictions.
SENATOR SEEKINS replied the law doesn't say that municipalities
couldn't place further restrictions. This bill says that any
road that a bicyclist can legally use would be eligible for use
with roller skis. In addition there are safety restrictions
applied such as traveling in single file except when passing and
not using electronic devices that might inhibit hearing.
SENATOR COWDERY noted that Anchorage has a number of trails and
he hopes that pedestrians using wheeled adjuncts would be
encouraged to use them whenever possible.
SENATOR SEEKINS agreed that is a good idea whenever possible;
common sense should prevail.
SENATOR BERT STEDMAN asked if there is a definition for bright
clothing and how enforceable that clothing requirement might be.
SENATOR SEEKINS replied, "We're asking, you'll notice in the
first part there, for the department to set up some of these
regulations. We're giving them some discretion."
SENATOR STEDMAN noted that the use of headsets is excluded.
SENATOR SEEKINS said that is for safety reasons.
BRIAN HOVE, staff to Senator Seekins, stated that when headsets
are worn around the neck it's possible to listen to music and
still hear what's going on around you.
SENATOR COWDERY asked who would be liable if a roller skier
caused an automobile accident.
SENATOR SEEKINS advised there is no mandatory insurance for
bicyclists and the same would apply for these devices, but that
doesn't mean they wouldn't be personally liable.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS noted the title specifically mentions
rollerblades, roller skates, and similar devices, but in the
body of the bill rollerblades, roller skates and roller skis are
mentioned. He questioned whether it wouldn't be better to list
all three in the title.
SENATOR SEEKINS stated he had no objection to that suggestion.
Originally they left it open to include other similar devices,
but they have received no input for any other devices.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS asked, "So your intention is no other
devices, just these three."
SENATOR SEEKINS said that's correct and he wouldn't object to an
amendment.
MR. HOVE chimed in, "Part of this is a drafting situation as
well."
SENATOR COWDERY asked what it takes to change the title of a
bill in committee.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS explained that the committee could make the
amendment.
SENATOR COWDERY said he would consider that a friendly
amendment.
SENATOR SEEKINS supported the amendment.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS questioned whether the sponsor was
comfortable changing the title to specifically include
rollerblades, roller skates, and roller skis.
SENATOR SEEKINS replied he was comfortable.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS asked for and received no objection to the
amendment to change the title and it was so ordered.
He then opened public testimony.
AL STOREY, with the Alaska State Troopers, testified via
teleconference to advise that they had a few concerns, but they
were ready to work with the sponsor.
DAN YAUNT testified via teleconference from Fairbanks to oppose
the bill. He reported that he had several problems with roller
skiers on Cripple Creek Road last summer because they were
skiing three and four abreast. They took up most of the road and
seldom made any effort to get out of the way. He also expressed
concerns about liability and that his insurance company would
have to pay and he would be held responsible if there was an
accident.
SENATOR COWDERY told Mr. Yaunt that his experience has been that
the insurance company would go after the person that is liable.
SENATOR SEEKINS agreed that going down the road three and four
abreast is unsafe and the bill specifies single file unless
passing.
WENDALL WATERS testified via teleconference from Fairbanks in
opposition to SB 327. He said, "Common sense is to keep
obstacles off the road as much as possible." He charged that
getting the police to respond to a roller skier who is creating
a hazard is a nightmare and it won't happen.
MIKE KRAMER testified via teleconference from Fairbanks in
support of SB 327 and opined that concern about liability was
causing the discussion to drift in a different direction than
Senator Seekins intended. Roller skis should be regulated the
same way that bicycles are regulated, he said. He urged the
committee to pass the bill.
DICK FLAHARTY testified via teleconference from Fairbanks in
support of the bill. He reported that he just returned from
Norway where he watched his son participate as a member of the
U.S. Jr. ski team. Roller skiing is how most teams in the rest
of the world train during the summer and if this kind of
training isn't allowed in Alaska, then U.S. skiers are placed at
a decided disadvantage. He said it's foolish if it's not allowed
and he hopes the bill passes quickly.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS noted that Senator Lyman Hoffman had joined
the meeting.
AELIN PETERSON testified via teleconference from Fairbanks to
say that she was privileged to represent the U.S as a cross-
country skier in the 2002 Winter Olympics. She briefly described
what it took to realize her long-term goal to become an Olympic
skier. She noted that in 2002, 3 of the 8 skiers on the woman's
team were Alaskans and a fourth does considerable training in
Alaska. As Senator Seekins mentioned, about half the entire
cross-country ski team came from Alaska, which is something to
be proud of and not to be discouraged.
She said, "Roller skiing is absolutely an essential part of my
training. If I were unable to roller ski in Alaska I would be
forced to leave the state. It is that crucial to, at least, ski
racers."
She said she completely agreed that skiing single file should be
strictly enforced. In addition, most coaches probably don't
support the use of electronic devices because they would prefer
that the skier focus on form instead. She noted that she always
wears bright colored clothing and that could be encouraged.
MS. PETERSON said she is proud to represent Alaska in
international ski competitions and she hopes the state continues
to produce young cross-country skiers, elite athletes and aware
communities.
RICHARD DOERING testified via teleconference from Fairbanks as a
concerned citizen. He said, "I would hate to think that we would
restrict anyone from using our roads." Although he drives a car
more often than not, he believes that "roads are not just for
cars." He agreed with Senator Seekins that common sense and
courtesy should be employed.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS noted that there was no further testimony.
SENATOR COWDERY made a motion to move CSSB 327(STA) from
committee with attached fiscal note and asked for unanimous
consent. There being no objection, it was so ordered.
SB 316-SEAT BELT VIOLATION AS PRIMARY OFFENSE
CHAIR GARY STEVENS announced SB 316 to be up for consideration.
He asked Senator Bunde to come forward and identify himself.
SENATOR CON BUNDE, sponsor of SB 316, explained that this bill
would change the current seatbelt law from a secondary law to a
primary law. He clarified that a secondary law means that a
driver can be cited for not wearing a seatbelt only if he or she
has already been stopped for another legitimate reason even
though seatbelt use is already required by statute. Change to a
primary law means that the police could stop a motorist who was
noticeably not wearing a seatbelt and issue a citation.
"SB 316 just changes the enforcement powers so that a police
officer could more readily enforce what is currently our law."
Seatbelts do save lives, he stated emphatically, and the $500
million that Alaskans spend on crashes every year would more
than likely decrease with increased seatbelt use. Also, Alaska
would be eligible to receive an additional $4 million in federal
funds if it were to pass a primary seatbelt law.
SENATOR BUNDE noted that according to some polling he has seen,
67 percent of Alaskans believe that a primary seatbelt law would
be a good idea.
SENATOR JOHN COWDERY asked him to comment on the fact that not
all seatbelts can be seen because some older vehicles don't have
shoulder belts.
SENATOR BUNDE replied just a small number of cars would have
just lap belts and although he wouldn't want to require
retrofits, if it were his car he would certainly install a
shoulder harness.
SENATOR COWDERY asked for the intent regarding passengers since
the bill speaks only to drivers.
SENATOR BUNDE said his interpretation of the bill is that
everyone in the vehicle needs to wear a seatbelt.
SENATOR BERT STEDMAN asked what fines would be established.
SENATOR BUNDE thought that the current state fine is $15 and
municipalities are free to establish their own fines.
SENATOR LYMAN HOFFMAN asked whether this would take away any
points from a driving license.
SENATOR BUNDE admitted he didn't know the answer.
[An unidentified speaker advised him that there wouldn't be any
points.]
TAPE 04-11, SIDE B
4:20 pm
CHAIR GARY STEVENS repeated, "Zero points then."
SENATOR COWDERY asked the sponsor whether he would consider
raising the state penalty to $50.
SENATOR BUNDE replied that would be a greater inducement to
wearing a seatbelt, but he would defer to the wisdom of the
committee.
SENATOR STEDMAN asked what the additional $4 million in federal
funds could be used for.
SENATOR BUNDE said the money could be used for improvements and
beyond that the state would also be eligible for federal money
for safety belt education programs.
MARK JOHNSON with the Department of Health & Social Services
stated support for the bill. He reported that more people do
wear seatbelts if the law requires them to do so, which saves
lives and reduces injuries. He estimated that if there was a 10
percent increase in seatbelt usage in Alaska, approximately
seven lives would be saved every year and about 72 major
injuries and 50 minor injuries would be prevented.
Other accident statistics include: The Alaska Trauma Registry
shows that over a ten year period there were 1,765 people in
Alaska hospitalized as a result of an injury in a motor vehicle
crash who weren't wearing a seatbelt. Thirty-one percent of
those individuals billed a government agency and 22 percent of
the individuals were uninsured. In addition, about 15 percent of
the individuals were permanently disabled.
With regard to the issue of fines, he said that the last time he
checked the fine could be given to the local ambulance service
instead of the court and SB 316 wouldn't change that.
SENATOR HOFFMAN remarked that many accidents are a result of
other violations such as speeding or running a red light. He
asked Mr. Johnson if he could sort the data that way.
MR. JOHNSON replied, "The number undoubtedly would be lower, but
some of the people who are injured are not the ones who are
violating the law and this would help reduce some of those
injuries."
SENATOR HOFFMAN retorted most of those statistics come from
people that are breaking existing laws.
MR. JOHNSON told the committee that research has shown that
adults who are belted are far more likely to restrain their
children and the reverse is true as well.
CURT WINSTON, regional administrator for the National Highway
Traffic Safety Administration, reported that his agency is
charged with reducing the deaths, the injuries, and the property
damage caused on public roads. His son, who is an EMT in the
Chugiak Fire Department, estimates that seatbelt use in his area
is about 80 percent. Mr. Winston added that their research shows
that the 20 percent that aren't using seatbelts are
predominantly young males between 16 and 37 years of age who
drive pickup trucks and consume more than the average amount of
alcohol. In addition, those young males tend to be uninsured and
are not particularly responsible financially.
The Bush administration supports the legislation strongly, which
is why President Bush put the bonus program in the current
highway bill. As previously stated, $3.9 million is available to
Alaska as an incentive to pass a more effective seatbelt law. In
addition, up to $100 million might be saved by preventing
serious injury to people that were previously not buckled.
MR. WINSTON emphasized that SB 316 would move Alaska into line
with other west coast states all of which have primary laws. He
noted that in Washington state 76 lives were saved in the first
year out of a previous total of 630 fatalities. "It's a very
good bill and I highly recommend its passage," he said.
SENATOR HOFFMAN asked if the 76 people indicated that they
wouldn't have worn a seatbelt if it weren't the law.
MR. WINSTON clarified there were 76 fewer occupant fatalities in
2003 than 2002.
SENATOR HOFFMAN observed it might be a result of driver
education.
MR. WINSTON thought it was the "Click it or ticket," and "Buckle
up it's the law fine $101" signs.
SENATOR HOFFMAN noted that 80 percent of Alaskans use seatbelts
and asked what the rates are for the other 20 states.
MR. WINSTON replied the rates run from 79 percent to about 95
percent.
SENATOR HOFFMAN asked for a copy of that data listing the states
and the usage.
MR. WINSTON said he would supply that information.
SENATOR STEDMAN remarked, "The biggest target group is 16 to 37
year old pickup drivin' beer drinkin' males."
MR. WINSTON agreed and added that those statistics are from all
50 states, not just Alaska.
DON SMITH, administrator of the Alaska Highway Safety Office,
handed out pamphlets showing that in 2003 there were 94 highway
fatalities in Alaska. The data was further broken down by
geographic area and whether or not the fatally injured person
was wearing a seatbelt.
SENATOR COWDERY noticed that motorcycles were listed and asked
if motorcycles had seatbelts.
DON SMITH replied the information is a summary of all the
various accidents so all motorcyclists, bicyclists, and
pedestrians that were involved in traffic fatalities were listed
in the NA category.
Noting that major trauma traffic accidents that entail long
hospital stays and long-term disability cost an average of $1.3
million per accident, he postulated that increasing seatbelt use
another 10 percent would probably save 10 or 12 lives each year
and as a consequence, quite a lot of pain, suffering and money.
CINDY CASHEN, executive director of the MAAD Juneau chapter,
introduced herself and told members that she was representing
the four Alaska MAAD chapters. She stated support for SB 316 and
described seatbelts as "our best defense against a drunk
driver."
AL STOREY, lieutenant and legislative liaison from the
Department of Public Safety, reported that the commissioner
supports changing the law from secondary to primary. After
spending 26 years in law enforcement, he feels this is long
overdue.
MR. STOREY advised he has been in law enforcement for 24 years
and when he was a patrol officer he spent a number of years
responding to motor vehicle accidents. He detailed the ways that
motor vehicle accidents impact lives and couldn't emphasize
enough how important it is to wear your seatbelt. When he polled
troopers across the state asking what kinds of legislative
changes they would like to see, the number one answer was to
make seatbelt usage a primary offense so that more people would
wear them.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS asked him to verify that the state fine is
$15, that municipalities can have varying fines, and that
seatbelt violations remove zero points from a driving license.
MR. STOREY agreed and added it's also correct that the fine may
be donated to a local medical response organization rather than
to the court.
SENATOR HOFFMAN asked what the department's position would be to
an amendment that said the police are not able to use the
seatbelt violation as a pretext search.
MR. STOREY acknowledged that is a concern but,
It doesn't seem appropriate that we should take away
that person's right to give us permission if we ask
them for that permission. It seems that anybody should
be able to give consent to a search of themselves or
their vehicle if we're to have contact with them. The
question then being is that do we want to use the
seatbelt as a means of contacting them? Well, if it's
not fastened then we do need to contact them to talk
about that issue in and of itself.
SENATOR HOFFMAN asked if his answer was yes or no.
MR. STOREY replied,
If they don't have a seatbelt on then we certainly
should have a legitimate right to contact them to
discuss that. If that develops into an investigation
of another type it seems appropriate that police
officer should follow the leads as they are presented
to them and that's just good police work.
SENATOR HOFFMAN again asked whether his answer was yes or no.
MR. STOREY replied, "I would not be in favor of an amendment
that would restrict us from asking additional questions about
things we discover during the course of our traffic contact.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS asked how they might handle the situation in
which an individual tries to fasten their seatbelt as the
officer approaches the car.
MR. STOREY replied that already happens and the officer simply
discusses proper seatbelt use with the driver and wouldn't issue
a citation if the elements of the violation are not present.
PEGGY HYASHE, a registered nurse representing the Alaska Nurses'
Association and Alaska Safe Kids, spoke in strong support of SB
316. She said that after nearly 40 years of being an emergency
nurse this is very important to her. For general information,
seatbelts came into effect in 1965 and lap shoulder belts came
into effect in 1973 so there is sufficient data to evaluate the
effectiveness of seatbelts. Ongoing education and strong
enforcement of primary seatbelt laws does have an affect of a
population. She concluded, "It takes very little to put a
seatbelt on; it takes lots more to plan a funeral."
CHAIR GARY STEVENS announced that he would lose the quorum at
5:30 pm.
KEVIN QUINLIN, chief of safety advocacy with the National
Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), spoke via teleconference and
noted that the committee had his written testimony. [Full
written testimony may be found in the bill file.] He made the
point that the NTSB conducts objective and scientific
investigations. The product of their investigation is a
recommendation that the state may adapt to their need.
An important factor that hadn't been mentioned is that seatbelts
prevent ejections. He continued to say that,
Those who do not wear belt are ejected from their
vehicles 30 percent of the time and 73 percent of
ejectees die. Further, belt use decreases, that is it
goes down, with increasing crash severity. ... We
looked at an eight year period and we found nearly 600
vehicle occupants died in Alaska and 64 percent of
them were unrestrained. In 2002, there were 37
unrestrained fatalities. Seatbelts are between 45 and
73 percent effective in reducing fatalities. I think
that's an important range to differentiate because the
low end is for cars and drivers in cars in particular
and the higher end is for pickup trucks and SUVs. It's
possible if you have a greater SUV and pickup truck
population your law would be more effective than it
would be in some other states. We estimated, based on
a conservative 50 percent effectiveness, that in 2002
you would have prevented 18 deaths and saved about $18
million.
MR. QUINLAN said there is popular support for primary seatbelt
laws and the NTSB strongly supports adoption of SB 316 because
they know it is the most effective action to take to reduce
highway fatalities and injuries every year.
A brand new study says,
One of the strongest predictors of higher belt use for
both drivers and passengers was whether the crash
occurred in a state with a primary belt law. Mean belt
use fatally injured teenage drivers was only 36
percent and fatally injured teenage passengers was 23
percent. These are some of our higher risk folks, but
it's not 21 to 37, it includes those who are just
starting driving.... We think this is so important
that it is on our list of most wanted safety
recommendations right up there with measures to
prevent aircraft fuel tanks from exploding.
SENATOR HOFFMAN challenged the statement that seatbelt use is
the highest and best use to reduce fatalities and asked whether
reducing speeds wouldn't result in fewer accidents.
MR. QUINLAN replied he doesn't have any indication that lower
speed would reduce accidents and fatalities as much as seatbelt
use would.
CORLUS TAYLOR, manager for education and staff development at
Fairbanks Memorial Hospital, spoke via teleconference in strong
support of SB 316. She agreed with the previous testimony and
although the statistics are important, she appreciated the
individuals who put personal touches in their testimony because
the bottom line is, "We're still talking about our friends and
neighbors."
LINDA WILSON, deputy director of the Alaska Public Defender
Agency testified via teleconference to say that she agrees that
seatbelts save lives. However, she wanted to clarify that Alaska
is actually a hybrid state rather than a secondary state with
regard to seatbelt use and, she cautioned, there are
ramifications associated with repealing AS 28.05.095(e). Section
(e) is the secondary law portion that prohibits stopping a
driver who is over 16 for not wearing a seatbelt unless there is
anther reason for the stop and (e) only applies to (a).
Section (b) is the primary law part and it says that anyone
under 16 who is riding in a car must be wearing a seatbelt or
sitting in a child safety device. Currently the police can stop
a driver if they see someone in the car that is under 16 and not
properly seat belted or restrained.
With regard to the fines, she clarified that violating section
(a), which is for someone over 16, the fine is $15 and no points
are assessed. However under section (b), which addresses any
passenger in the car who is under 16 and not properly
restrained, there is a $50 fine and points are assessed.
If the law becomes primary for adults, the agency is concerned
that this will validate pretext stops. The police would be able
to pull a driver over on the pretext that they didn't see a
seatbelt in use when they were really interested in something
else. Although she didn't believe that is the intent of the
bill, she expressed concern that that would be an unintended
consequence.
She suggested that the "Click it or Ticket" program raises
public awareness of the benefits of wearing seatbelts. "Maybe
just raising the fines for these offenses would get us where we
would want to be without changing this to address adults and
make it 100 percent primary instead of the quasi-primary that we
are now."
Finally, she noted that there would be a fiscal impact if this
were to pass. If the police are making more stops because of
seatbelts, then more things will come to their attention and
more things will be prosecuted, she reasoned.
MARIE LAVINE, executive director of the Alaska Public Health
Association testified via teleconference to represent more than
200 public health professionals across Alaska in support of SB
316. They are committed to developing sound public health policy
to improve the health of all Alaskans and this includes the use
of seatbelts. They have long recognized just how effective
seatbelts are in minimizing injury and death as a result of
traffic accidents. She urged the committee to pass the bill
quickly.
04-12, SIDE A
5:05 pm
SERGANT DAN WELLBORN testified via teleconference from Fairbanks
in support of SB 316. He said he has attended the Northwest
Traffic Institute for accident investigation and is currently
called out for serious injury and fatal accidents. In addition,
he has participated in a number of safety training and
certification programs and is committed to the enforcement of
seatbelt use.
Education does work, he insisted, and perhaps more important is
that when adults wear a seatbelt, statistics show that their
children do too. Children who wear seatbelts grow up and become
adults who wear seatbelts. Although education might not make an
adult buckle up, enforcement will, he asserted. "You don't
forget a ticket."
JOAN DIAMOND, Municipality of Anchorage representative,
testified via teleconference in support of the primary seatbelt
law. She validated the data given previously.
CHIEF WALT MONAGAN, Anchorage Police Department, testified via
teleconference to say that he echoed everything that had already
been said. He acknowledged that people do tend to buckle up when
they see his car and if that's what it takes that's fine because
he's gone to more accidents in his career than he wants to
remember. "I am a strong supporter of a primary seatbelt usage.
... The main thrust of this is not a fine generation. It is
solely for the purpose of safety. Not only for the safety of the
occupants inside, but for the individuals who are also sharing
the road.... We have a duty to be respectful, courteous, and law
abiding for the safety of everyone."
CHAIR GARY STEVENS closed the public testimony and brought the
discussion back before the committee. He noted that education
was emphasized throughout the testimony and asked Senator Bunde
to comment on whether part of the $4 million would be used for
education programs.
SENATOR BUNDE replied, "There's $4 million plus there is
additional monies available for education."
CHAIR GARY STEVENS asked for a motion.
SENATOR COWDERY made a motion to move SB 316 from committee with
the attached fiscal note. He asked for unanimous consent. There
being no objection, it was so ordered.
SB 245-PERS BENEFITS FOR HARBOR OFFICERS
SENATOR GARY STEVENS announced SB 245 to be up for
consideration. He invited Senator Elton forward and apologized
that he would lose the quorum in just 5 minutes so there
wouldn't be time to hear from all the people who had signed up
to testify. He noted that the calendar was full on Tuesday, but
he would hear the bill again on the following Thursday.
SENATOR JOHN COWDERY said he had several questions and would
work with the sponsor before the next public hearing.
SENATOR KIM ELTON, sponsor of SB 245, outlined the general
duties of a harbor officer from the sponsor statement.
Among other duties, harbor officers:
· Enforce regulations on the use of parking, safe
operation of boats and vehicles, and the conduct
of people and animals in the harbor and harbor
areas
· Have the authority to issue citations and can
testify in court
· Assist police, fire and other emergency personnel
in harbor-related activities
· Carry radios to stay in contact with local
police, state troopers and coast guard
· Work with state troopers and fish and wildlife
officers
· Are required to render aid to distressed persons
along with body recovery of drowning victims
· Work with the coast guard and FBI on security
issues at the port
· Have the authority to arrest individuals for
violations
Under federal regulations, harbor officers are
responsible for port security. They have training
in explosives and related fields and are part of
homeland security. They are responsible for the
security of docks when the huge cruise ships tie
up and bring visitors to Alaska communities.
Harbor officers should be given the same
retirement benefits as peace officers, fire
fighters and dispatchers in the Public Employees
Retirement System.
SENATOR ELTON concluded by saying that,
If I had been presented the parameters of this
bill at the turn of the century - four or five
years ago - I wouldn't have been as enthusiastic
a proponent of the bill. But given the new
realities, post 911, and given the
responsibilities that these harbor officers have,
I think the scope of their duties and certainly
the magnitude of their responsibilities have
changed dramatically and we can only anticipate
that they will change even more in the future.
These really are first-line people in port
security and they are no longer seen as just
people who enforce ordinances and protocols in
the harbors.
SB 245 only applies to how harbor officers are treated in
their retirement system. It doesn't change the scope of
duties in any way. For instance, municipalities will still
determine whether or not harbor officers will be armed and
when they will be armed.
CHAIR GARY STEVENS thanked Senator Elton for his patience
and expressed appreciation to everyone who signed up to
speak and asked them to return on Thursday for the second
hearing. He then adjourned the meeting at 6:00 pm.
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