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04/13/2017 03:30 PM STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 148 SECOND CLASS BOROUGH SERVICE AREAS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HB 148(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 78 INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 78 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ HB 87 CONFLICT OF INTEREST: BD FISHERIES/GAME TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
*+ SB 106 MUNI TAX EXEMPTION: ECON DEVEL PROPERTY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 13, 2017                                                                                         
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kevin Meyer, Chair                                                                                                      
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
Senator Dennis Egan                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 106                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to a municipal tax exemption or deferral for                                                                   
economic development property; and relating to a municipal tax                                                                  
exemption for a fire protection system."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 148                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to service areas in second class boroughs; and                                                                 
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SCS HB 148(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 78                                                                                                               
"An Act establishing the second Monday of October of each year                                                                  
as Indigenous Peoples Day."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 78 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 106                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MUNI TAX EXEMPTION: ECON DEVEL PROPERTY                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COGHILL                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
04/05/17       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/05/17       (S)       CRA, STA                                                                                               
04/11/17       (S)       CRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
04/11/17       (S)       Moved CSSB 106(CRA) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/11/17       (S)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
04/12/17       (S)       CRA RPT CS  3DP 1NR    SAME TITLE                                                                      
04/12/17       (S)       DP: BISHOP, GARDNER, HOFFMAN                                                                           
04/12/17       (S)       NR: STEDMAN                                                                                            
04/13/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 148                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SECOND CLASS BOROUGH SERVICE AREAS                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) CHENAULT                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
03/01/17       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/01/17       (H)       CRA                                                                                                    
03/07/17       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/07/17       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/07/17       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
03/09/17       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/09/17       (H)       Moved HB 148 Out of Committee                                                                          
03/09/17       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
03/10/17       (H)       CRA RPT 7DP                                                                                            
03/10/17       (H)       DP:    WESTLAKE,   SADDLER,    TALERICO,                                                               
                         DRUMMOND, RAUSCHER, FANSLER, PARISH                                                                    
03/31/17       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/31/17       (H)       VERSION: HB 148                                                                                        
04/03/17       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/03/17       (S)       STA                                                                                                    
04/06/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/06/17       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/11/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/11/17       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/13/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 78                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY                                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) WESTLAKE                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
01/25/17       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/25/17       (H)       CRA                                                                                                    
01/31/17       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
01/31/17       (H)       Moved HB 78 Out of Committee                                                                           
01/31/17       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
02/01/17       (H)       CRA RPT 4DP 2NR                                                                                        
02/01/17       (H)       DP: WESTLAKE, DRUMMOND, FANSLER, PARISH                                                                
02/01/17       (H)       NR: TALERICO, RAUSCHER                                                                                 
02/03/17       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
02/03/17       (H)       VERSION: HB 78                                                                                         
02/06/17       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/06/17       (S)       CRA, STA                                                                                               
02/21/17       (S)       CRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/21/17       (S)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
02/23/17       (S)       CRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/23/17       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/23/17       (S)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
02/28/17       (S)       CRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/28/17       (S)       Moved HB 78 Out of Committee                                                                           
02/28/17       (S)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
03/01/17       (S)       CRA RPT 4DP                                                                                            
03/01/17       (S)       DP: BISHOP, HOFFMAN, GARDNER, MACKINNON                                                                
03/23/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/23/17       (S)       Bill Hearing Postponed to 3/28/17                                                                      
03/28/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/28/17       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/28/17       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
04/06/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/06/17       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/11/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/11/17       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/13/17       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA MOSS, Staff                                                                                                            
Senator Coghill                                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SB 106.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS SCHUTTE, Director                                                                                                         
Economic and Community Development                                                                                              
Municipality of Anchorage                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 106.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE CHENAULT                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 148, provided an overview.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARY KNOPP                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 148.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LARRY PERSILY, Chief of Staff to Borough Mayor                                                                                  
Kenai Peninsula Borough                                                                                                         
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 148.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE PIERCE, representing self                                                                                                
Kasilof, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition of HB 148.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE MARASIGAN, Staff                                                                                                      
Senator Meyer                                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Reviewed the CS for HB 148.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DEAN WESTLAKE                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 78, provided an overview.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH REXFORD, Staff                                                                                                        
Representative Westlake                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of HB 78.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALBERT NINGEULOOK, representing self                                                                                            
Shishmaref, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 78.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MARILYN RUSSELL, representing self                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 78.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KEVIN  MEYER  called the  Senate  State  Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:30  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were  Senators Giessel, Coghill,  Wilson, and  Chair Meyer.                                                               
Senator Egan joined the meeting  shortly after Chair Meyer's call                                                               
to order.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         SB 106-MUNI TAX EXEMPTION: ECON DEVEL PROPERTY                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER announced the consideration of SB 106.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL, sponsor  of  SB 106,  explained  that the  bill                                                               
addresses  previous legislation  that  was  narrowly crafted  and                                                               
allows   municipal  authority   and   flexibility  for   economic                                                               
development issues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:16 PM                                                                                                                    
RYNNIEVA MOSS, Staff, Senator  Coghill, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  noted that  SB 106  was HB  370 during  the 29th                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature.  She  concurred  with Senator  Coghill                                                               
that SB 106 provides more  flexibility to local municipalities on                                                               
giving   property  tax   exemptions   for  economic   development                                                               
property. She  noted that  the current  statute provides  a five-                                                               
year limit for a property-tax  emption, but SB 106 eliminates the                                                               
limitation and allows municipalities  to determine what the limit                                                               
for the tax  emption will be. She added that  the bill covers tax                                                               
exemptions and deferrals.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS presented a sectional analysis as follows:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:                                                                                                               
        · Removes the five-year limitation on economic                                                                          
         development property exemptions and deferrals.                                                                         
        · Removes renewals provision and the limit on                                                                           
          property tax exemptions for renewals.                                                                                 
        · Eligibility for economic development property                                                                         
          exemption, (m)(1), is based on one qualifier                                                                          
          instead of multiple qualifiers.                                                                                       
        · Adds a qualifier for property development that                                                                        
          enables a significant capital investment in                                                                           
          physical infrastructure that:                                                                                         
             1. Expands the tax base of the municipality;                                                                       
             2. Generates property tax revenue after the                                                                        
               exemption expires.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:                                                                                                               
        · Makes the mandated tax exemption for a fire-                                                                          
          protection system up to 2 percent of the value of                                                                     
          the structure optional.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3:                                                                                                               
        · Repeals AS 29.45.030(l) which was the mandated                                                                        
          tax exemption for a fire-protection system.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOSS  provided an  example  of  what  SB  106 will  mean  to                                                               
municipalities as follows:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The Matanuska-Susitna Borough  gave us some information                                                                    
     on  their  sports  center. The  land  that  the  sports                                                                    
     center   is  on   had  an   assessed  value   prior  to                                                                    
     construction  of  $294000,  today   the  land  and  the                                                                    
     building   is   assessed   at   $6.998   million;   the                                                                    
     approximate   tax   bill   on  that   property,   today                                                                    
     undeveloped  would  be $4900  a  year,  today they  are                                                                    
     generating   $102500  a   year.  Since   the  exemption                                                                    
     expired,  they have  raised  $615000  in revenues;  had                                                                    
     that  development  not  occurred,  that  $600000  would                                                                    
     dwindle down  to $31000. So, it's  a significant avenue                                                                    
     for  municipalities to  raise additional  revenue which                                                                    
     in today's  world is important  because they  have less                                                                    
     contributions from the state.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:35:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER opened public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRISTOPHER   SCHUTTE,    Director,   Economic    and   Community                                                               
Development,  Municipality   of  Anchorage,   Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
testified  in  support  of  SB 106.  He  commented  that  Senator                                                               
Coghill and  his staff  have done  a great  job of  capturing the                                                               
important need and value in  changing the current state statutes.                                                               
He set forth that  SB 106 will be a useful  tool in Anchorage for                                                               
encouraging development and redevelopment  of all sizes, not only                                                               
of the scale that Ms. Mention  regarding the sports center in the                                                               
Matanuska-Susitna Borough.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  disclosed   that  Anchorage  is  running   out  of  available                                                               
developable land and the legislation  will allow the municipality                                                               
to incentivize  and encourage the redevelopment  of aging-housing                                                               
stock.  He pointed  out that  one of  the bill's  components will                                                               
allow  the  municipal-infrastructure requirement  that  Anchorage                                                               
places  upon  developers to  be  eligible  for rebate  through  a                                                               
property-tax-abatement  tool which  will be  especially powerful.                                                               
He said Anchorage has multiple  examples of projects that did not                                                               
"pencil out" due  to the municipal requirement  to provide public                                                               
infrastructure or  public upgrades, as a  result the municipality                                                               
is left with undeveloped land;  for example, a former gravel site                                                               
was  purchased  by a  company  looking  to  build a  $40  million                                                               
distribution  warehouse, but  the  requirements  placed upon  the                                                               
project  would  have  required   $4.5  million  to  bring  public                                                               
infrastructure up to code.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHUTTE summarized  that SB 106 is a very  powerful tool that                                                               
will   provide  municipalities   across   the   state  with   the                                                               
flexibility to  create incentives that offset  mandatory expenses                                                               
through decreased tax in the short term.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:39:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:39:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER set SB 106 aside for future consideration.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           HB 148-SECOND CLASS BOROUGH SERVICE AREAS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:40:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER announced the consideration  of HB 148. He noted that                                                               
SB 77,  sponsored by Senator  Micciche, is the companion  bill to                                                               
HB 148.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:40:32 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE  CHENAULT, Alaska State  Legislature, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, sponsor of HB 148, provided an overview as follows:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     HB 148  would expand the authority  of the second-class                                                                    
     borough to exercise  a local option of  creating a non-                                                                    
     taxable  service  area  to provide  emergency  response                                                                    
     along  state-highway corridors  that are  not currently                                                                    
     covered  by any  existing  emergency-service areas;  in                                                                    
     particular,  this  would   allow  the  Kenai  Peninsula                                                                    
     Borough  to establish  a service  area for  coordinated                                                                    
     coverage  for  the  almost 90  miles  of  Sterling  and                                                                    
     Seward  highways  that  are   not  within  the  current                                                                    
     existing boundaries  of any  existing emergency-service                                                                    
     areas.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  referenced a  map  and  noted that  the                                                               
Sterling and  Seward highways' area  is very highly  traveled and                                                               
currently is  semi-serviced with two-volunteer  fire departments.                                                               
He remarked  that the voluntary staff  is aging, and HB  148 is a                                                               
good idea  on how to  fund the  noted service area.  He explained                                                               
that the legislation would be  implemented by action of the Kenai                                                               
Peninsula Borough Assembly.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  GARY  KNOPP,  Alaska State  Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, testified in support of  HB 148. He detailed his previous                                                               
history with the Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly as follows:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     In my time on the  Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly, we                                                                    
     struggled  with volunteer  service in  the area  and as                                                                    
     equipment  and  volunteers  aged,  we've  been  running                                                                    
     short. So,  we've been  struggling to  find the  way to                                                                    
     provide  medical  services as  most  of  you know,  and                                                                    
     Senator Giessel  at one time represented  this area, so                                                                    
     she's probably  familiar with, but it  doesn't allow us                                                                    
     by law  to exercise any  type of support because  it is                                                                    
     outside of  the service areas that  currently exist, so                                                                    
     our hands are somewhat  tied in providing support. From                                                                    
     January 2015 to December  2016, we serviced 123-medical                                                                    
     calls,  ambulance calls  in that  particular area.  I'm                                                                    
     sure most  people have driven that  from Cooper Landing                                                                    
     to Hope,  Seward, and then  over the pass  to Girdwood,                                                                    
     and  that's primarily  the area  we  are talking  about                                                                    
     servicing.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:44:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER opened public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:45:00 PM                                                                                                                    
LARRY PERSILY, Chief  of Staff to Borough  Mayor, Kenai Peninsula                                                               
Borough, Soldotna,  Alaska, testified  in support  of HB  148. He                                                               
disclosed that  approximately 4000  vehicles traverse  the Seward                                                               
and  Sterling highways  daily with  levels doubling  and tripling                                                               
during the summer peak that results in a lot of accidents.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PERSILY explained  that the Kenai Peninsula  Borough does not                                                               
have area-wide-emergency-services  powers and only in  a specific                                                               
service area  that results  in a no-service  area on  the highway                                                               
right-of-way. He  said HB 148 would  allow a local option  to the                                                               
six-second-class  boroughs  around  the  state  via  an  assembly                                                               
approval and  public vote  the ability to  create a  service area                                                               
for emergency-response  services on  highway corridors  and state                                                               
right-of-ways where  there are no residents  or private property.                                                               
He  detailed  that  the Kenai  Peninsula  Borough's  mayor  would                                                               
propose to the borough  assembly that federal payment-in-lieu-of-                                                               
taxes  (PILT) be  used  because the  highway  corridor is  mostly                                                               
federal property.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PERSILY  summarized that  HB  148  would allow  the  borough                                                               
assembly a local option to  help take care of residents, Alaskans                                                               
and  visitors that  use the  Sterling and  Seward highways  year-                                                               
round.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:47:02 PM                                                                                                                    
GEORGE PIERCE,  representing self, Kasilof, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
opposition  of  HB 148.  He  said  the  state cannot  afford  new                                                               
projects. He opined  that the bill is a "land  grab" by the Kenai                                                               
Peninsula Borough.  He claimed that local-tax  dollars outside of                                                               
the federal  money would  have to  be used  to fund  the proposed                                                               
service area.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:51:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  explained that during her  time representing the                                                               
Kenai Peninsula Borough that there  was a need for equipment. She                                                               
asked Representative Chenault  if HB 148 would cover  the cost of                                                               
equipment for the volunteer fire departments.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT noted  that Representative Knopp recently                                                               
served on the  Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly  and could better                                                               
address Senator Giessel's question.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP  replied that the  initial intent is  not to                                                               
purchase any  equipment, but conceded  that the PILT  money could                                                               
be  used  in  the  future  to  update  an  ambulance  or  replace                                                               
antiquated  equipment.   He  noted  that  the   borough  annually                                                               
receives $2 million  to $3 million in PILT dollars  and the mayor                                                               
plans on spending up to 20 percent on the service area.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  concurred  with the  representatives'  comments                                                               
regarding the  aging-volunteer population in the  Kenai Peninsula                                                               
Borough region.  She opined  that the  area has  a crisis  due to                                                               
long    accident-response   times    during   bad-weather-driving                                                               
conditions  and thanked  the two  representatives  for coming  up                                                               
with a collaborative solution.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:57:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  moved to adopt  the committee substitute  for HB                                                               
148,  version:  30-LS0597\U  as   the  working  document  of  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:58:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRISTINE   MARASIGAN,  Staff,   Senator   Meyer,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, explained  that the CS  combines SB                                                               
106 and HB 148. She detailed as follows:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  1-3 of  SB 106  has been  inserted in  HB 148                                                                    
     following Section 1. The  subsequent sections have been                                                                    
     renumbered  and it  was thought  that since  both bills                                                                    
     deal  with local-control  issues,  that  it related  to                                                                    
     either    municipal-tax   exemption    or   non-taxable                                                                    
     services,  that   those  two   things  would   go  well                                                                    
     together; the  office did contact the  sponsors of both                                                                    
     bills and that seemed amenable.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER removed his objection.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL said he appreciated  the cooperation of the House                                                               
members in looking at the issue addressed in HB 148.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL moved  to report the CS for HB  148, version: 30-                                                               
LS0597\U,  [SCS  HB  148(STA)], from  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER  announced that seeing  no objection, the  bill moved                                                               
out of committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                  HB 78-INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:01:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER called the committee  back to order and announced the                                                               
consideration of HB 78.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:02:49 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE DEAN  WESTLAKE, Alaska State  Legislature, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska,  sponsor  of HB  78,  announced  that his  staff  member,                                                               
Elizabeth  Rexford,  will  provide  the  committee  with  a  bill                                                               
overview.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:03:22 PM                                                                                                                    
ELIZABETH REXFORD,  Staff, Representative Westlake,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,   Alaska,  explained   that  quite   a  few                                                               
municipalities and  school districts  have established  their own                                                               
Indigenous  Peoples Day  and the  thought  was for  the state  to                                                               
adopt  the  designation  as  well  to  instill  a  positive  move                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. REXFORD  detailed that  HB 78  would establish  a recognition                                                               
day on the second Monday of  October, which is also Columbus Day.                                                               
She disclosed  that the only  negative feedback received  was the                                                               
recognition  of  was indigenous  people  on  a holiday  that  was                                                               
perceived  as negative.  She opined  that recognizing  Indigenous                                                               
Peoples Day on  Columbus Day would invoke a  positive response of                                                               
inclusivity, educate Alaskans, and  provide a reason for everyone                                                               
to celebrate indigenous peoples' positive history.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:06:19 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE WESTLAKE  emphasized that native  communities have                                                               
always  been  inclusive.  He  asserted   that  there  is  nothing                                                               
exclusive  about celebrating  both  Columbus  Day and  Indigenous                                                               
Peoples Day on  the second Monday in October. He  said the intent                                                               
is to move forward as the  governor has been doing every year and                                                               
to  make  permanent  the  recognition of  how  rich  and  vibrant                                                               
Alaskans are together as the great melting pot in America.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL   stated  that  he   appreciated  Representative                                                               
Westlake's approach. He remarked that  some of the bill's support                                                               
letters have  caused him some  concern regarding  the replacement                                                               
of  Columbus Day  due to  its  negative perception  by some,  but                                                               
positive  by  others, including  himself.  He  asserted that  the                                                               
Legislature is the  place where different focuses in  life get to                                                               
work  together,  but the  letters  of  support quite  often  were                                                               
divisive. He said the bill  addresses culturally sensitive issues                                                               
where  sometimes  the  cultures  clash.  He  reiterated  that  he                                                               
appreciated the sponsor's approach with the idea to celebrate.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. REXFORD  noted that  letters of  support from  previous years                                                               
did  have somewhat  of a  negative undertone,  but asserted  that                                                               
after reaching out  to different organizations that  they all had                                                               
a positive view of the day.  She asserted that her explanation of                                                               
inclusivity changed the  tone a little bit and  letters have been                                                               
positive.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:08:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL asserted that what  Ms. Rexford has done is allow                                                               
the conversation to  take on a new look in  a celebration of both                                                               
rather than become a culture clash.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REXFORD  shared  with  the   committee  her  native  studies                                                               
background in addressing  rhetoric and negative events;  HB 78 is                                                               
a very positive movement forward in that area.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   MEYER  asked   if  other   states  have   passed  similar                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WESTLAKE answered that  several states have passed                                                               
legislation that  recognizes and includes indigenous  peoples. He                                                               
noted that half of the nation's tribes are in Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:10:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER opened public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:11:10 PM                                                                                                                    
ALBERT   NINGEULOOK,  representing   self,  Shishmaref,   Alaska,                                                               
testified  in  support of  HB  78.  He  explained that  the  bill                                                               
positively recognizes the original  inhabitants as well as people                                                               
who have  settled in the  state from other cultures.  He asserted                                                               
that the  bill is  a very  positive step  in recognizing  all the                                                               
people and cultures that have settled in the United States.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:13:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MARILYN RUSSELL, representing  self, Fairbanks, Alaska, testified                                                               
in support  of HB 78.  She said so  many wrongs have  occurred in                                                               
the state that  need to be righted and to  let the legislation be                                                               
one of  them. She referenced  Elizabeth Peratrovich  and demanded                                                               
that  changes  be  made  to  recognize  indigenous  peoples.  She                                                               
remarked  that indigenous  people and  their culture  make Alaska                                                               
culturally  rich  and  diversified.  She asked  that  the  second                                                               
Monday in October be renamed "Indigenous Peoples Day."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:15:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  remarked that  the  previous  testimony was  an                                                               
explanation  of  why  the  approach   must  clearly  explain  the                                                               
difference between  joining and  replacing. He said  "joining" is                                                               
great, but  "replacing" not so  great. He opined that  his remark                                                               
is the  kind of question that  will have to be  continually dealt                                                               
with. He said,  "I'm not going to object because  what it does is                                                               
it begs the  question and then we  just got to give  an answer to                                                               
it."                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER  detailed that HB 78  has a zero-fiscal note  and was                                                               
assigned next  to the  Senate Rules  Committee. He  entertained a                                                               
motion for HB 78.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:16:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL moved to report  HB 78, version: 30-LS0368\A from                                                               
committee   with  attached   zero-fiscal   note  and   individual                                                               
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:16:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MEYER  announced  that  being  no  objection,  the  motion                                                               
carried.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:17:35 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Meyer adjourned the Senate  State Affairs Committee at 4:17                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 106 Version J.PDF SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 Version A.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 Sectional.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 Comparison with Existing Statute.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 MatSu Borough Support.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 Fiscal Note.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
SB 106
HB0148A.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB 148-Sponsor Statement.PDF SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB 148-Letter of Support-AML.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB 148-Highway corridor service area map.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB148 Support Letter to Rep. Chenault 03.03.17.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB 148 Fiscal Note.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
DRAFT SCS HB 148 STA Version U.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB078 Fiscal Note CRA 1.31.17.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB078 Supporting Document-Support Letter 1.31.2016 - Doyon.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB078 Sponsor Statement 2.3.17.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB078 Supporting Document-Support Letter 2.17.2016 - AFN.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB078 Supporting Document-Support Letters 1.25.17 - R.Worl.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB078 Supporting Document-Support Letters 1.26.17 - Burkowitz.pdf SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB078 ver A 1.31.17.PDF SSTA 4/13/2017 3:30:00 PM
HB 78