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10:04:21 AM Election Performance and Procedures Review: Statewide Primary Election of August 16, 2016
12:26:21 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ Statewide Primary Election of August 16, 2016 TELECONFERENCED
Election Performance and Procedures Review
-- Invited Testimony Only --
Lt. Governor Byron Mallott or Designee
Division of Elections Director Josephine Bahnke
LAA - Legal Services Division, Staff Attorney
Review/Discussion on Past Alaska Election Case
Law
Additional Testimony May Be Invited per Request
or Interest
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                   Anchorage LIO - Auditorium                                                                                   
                        August 29, 2016                                                                                         
                           10:03 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bill Stoltze, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair (via teleconference)                                                                           
Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                         
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Liz Vazquez                                                                                                      
Senator Anna MacKinnon (via teleconference)                                                                                     
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PERFORMANCE AND PROCEDURES REVIEW: STATEWIDE PRIMARY ELECTION OF                                                                
AUGUST 16, 2016.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON BREFCZYNSKI, Staff                                                                                                      
Senator Bill Stoltze                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview on issues regarding the                                                              
2016 Primary Election.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ALPHEUS BULLARD, Attorney                                                                                                       
Legislative Legal Services                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Addressed  legal remedies regarding electoral                                                             
issues for the 2016 Primary Election.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JOSIE BAHNKE, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Elections                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Addressed issues regarding the  2016 Primary                                                             
Election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LUKE WELLES, representing himself                                                                                               
Barrow, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Detailed his  voting experience  in District                                                             
40 during the 2016 Primary Election.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PAUL KENDALL, representing himself                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Commented on  voting  in  the 2016  Primary                                                             
Election in Anchorage.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL CHAMBERS, representing himself                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Commented on  voting  in  the 2016  Primary                                                             
Election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
EUGENE HABERMAN, representing himself                                                                                           
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on  the electoral process  and the                                                             
Division of Elections.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DAVID EASTMAN, representing himself                                                                                             
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT: Discussed  his challenges  in attempting  to                                                             
observe the vote count after the 2016 Primary Election.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH BROLLINI, representing herself                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Discussed  her son's  issue regarding  voter                                                             
registration for the 2016 Primary Election.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS, representing himself                                                                                                
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on  the Division of  Elections and                                                             
provided suggestions regarding the 2016 Primary Election.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:03:41 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  BILL  STOLTZE called  the  Senate  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 10:03 a.m. Present at  the call to                                                               
order   were  Senators   Wielechowski,   Huggins,  Coghill   (via                                                               
teleconference),  and  Chair  Stoltze.  He  announced  that  non-                                                               
committee  legislators in  attendance  were Representative  Lynn,                                                               
Senator Meyer, and Senator MacKinnon (via teleconference).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^ELECTION  PERFORMANCE AND  PROCEDURES REVIEW:  STATEWIDE PRIMARY                                                               
ELECTION OF AUGUST 16, 2016                                                                                                     
          ELECTION PERFORMANCE AND PROCEDURES REVIEW:                                                                       
         STATEWIDE PRIMARY ELECTION OF AUGUST 16, 2016                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
10:04:21 AM                                                                                                                 
CHAIR STOLTZE announced that the  committee was meeting to review                                                               
issues related  to the 2016  Primary Election. He noted  that the                                                               
recent  primary election  was still  in the  process of  counting                                                               
votes. He stated  that he appreciated Director  Bahnke for making                                                               
herself available  to listen  and respond in  order to  serve the                                                               
public's  interest both  through the  attending press,  questions                                                               
from  the committee,  and to  hear  concerns as  the Division  of                                                               
Elections  goes  through their  process  prior  to finalizing  on                                                               
September 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that due  to the Labor  Day holiday,  the committee                                                               
was having the hearing because  the next possible date would have                                                               
been after  certification. He  asserted that  the purpose  of the                                                               
hearing was about  the issues and not about  a specific candidate                                                               
or to influence the election.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He set forth  that the committee's intent would be  to go through                                                               
a  brief  presentation  on  the  issues  that  had  been  raised,                                                               
including those  brought up  in the media.  He detailed  that the                                                               
meeting's   interactive  portion   would  entail   responses  and                                                               
clarifications. He  remarked that  there may  be things  that the                                                               
Division of Elections  may easily explain and  those that require                                                               
contemplation.  He  added  that  he intended  to  include  public                                                               
testimony in  order to hear  any comments that people  have about                                                               
any issues  encountered with  the 2016  election. He  stated that                                                               
instead  of having  anecdotal calls  that  many legislators  have                                                               
received,   the  committee   intends  to   give  the   public  an                                                               
opportunity  to  put their  experiences  on  the record  for  the                                                               
Division of Elections to hear.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS pointed  out that no one  from the administration                                                               
was in the committee room.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:08:55 AM                                                                                                                   
BRANDON  BREFCZYNSKI,   Staff,  Senator  Stoltze,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  stated that  the hearing's  intent                                                               
was to discuss potential concerns  with the 2016 Primary Election                                                               
and not  to influence  any outcome  of an  election or  any other                                                               
purpose  prohibited  by  AS  24.60.030.   He  revealed  that  the                                                               
Legislature  does have  the constitutional  authority for  review                                                               
and oversite  of elections. He  specified that the  election data                                                               
used  in  his presentation  was  based  upon unofficial  election                                                               
results,   recent  media   reports,   statements   made  by   the                                                               
administration,  and  did  not include  anecdotal  accounts  from                                                               
members  of  the public.  He  added  that official  results  were                                                               
scheduled  for certification  on  September 2.  He revealed  that                                                               
voter  turnout for  the  primary election  was  lower than  prior                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:10:18 AM                                                                                                                   
He set  forth that the  committee would cover areas  of potential                                                               
concern that focused on Shungnak  in House District 40, Chefornak                                                               
in House  District 38,  Newtok in House  District 38,  and Copper                                                               
Center in House District 6.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  referenced a  slide on  District  40, Shungnak.  He said  the                                                               
slide showed  historical primary data  for 2016, 2014,  and 2012.                                                               
He detailed that the primary was  broken down by types of ballots                                                               
cast and specified as follows:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     For reference  right now you  will see that  there were                                                                    
     100 cards that  were cast, but as we see  in this slide                                                                    
     here, following  the primary, media reports  started to                                                                    
     claim that  voters were given  both the  Republican and                                                                    
     Democratic  combined ballot  and that  there were  only                                                                    
     100  cards cast;  but,  in the  event  they were  given                                                                    
     both, you would have 50 voters voting on both ballots.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE stated  that the  question  regarding two  ballots                                                               
would be posed  to Director Bahnke to directly  respond to rather                                                               
than a filtered response through the media.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:12:23 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  BREFCZYNSKI referenced  a  slide showing  two media  reports                                                               
that noted that the administration was aware.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE  asked that  Mr. Brefczynski  read the  quotes from                                                               
the Alaska  Dispatch News regarding  State Division  of Elections                                                               
Director  Josie Bahnke  and a  statement  by Lieutenant  Governor                                                               
Byron Mallott.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI  referenced an article  from the  Alaska Dispatch                                                               
News that quoted Director Bahnke as follows:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     State Division of Elections  Director Josie Bahnke said                                                                    
     there's  no need  to redo  the election  because voters                                                                    
     didn't  vote twice  in any  race, including  the Alaska                                                                    
     House  District  40  contest,  covering  the  Northwest                                                                    
     Arctic  and  North  Slope   boroughs.  "It's  not  like                                                                    
     there's double votes," she said.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He referenced a  statement submitted to the  Alaska Dispatch News                                                               
from  Lieutenant  Governor  Byron Mallott  on  "Primary  Election                                                               
Unofficial Results" as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     With  respect to  the Shungnak  precinct, the  Division                                                                    
     [of Elections]  is aware of  reports that  the precinct                                                                    
     workers gave voters both  Republican and the [Democrat]                                                                    
     ballot.  The Democratic  Primary  allows any  qualified                                                                    
     voter to vote in their  primary, so anyone who voted in                                                                    
     their  primary  was legally  entitled  to  do so  under                                                                    
     party rules.  Moreover, a  candidate's name  appears on                                                                    
     only one ballot, not multiple  ballots, so no voter was                                                                    
     able  to cast  more than  one vote  for any  individual                                                                    
     candidate.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE   asked  Mr.  Brefczynski  to   confirm  that  the                                                               
statement  was  a  direct   statement  from  Lieutenant  Governor                                                               
Mallott's office.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI answered correct and added as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Aside  from condensing  the  Democratic  ballot and  it                                                                    
     listed  all of  the parties.  So  why would  this be  a                                                                    
     potential  concern? Alaska  statute speaks  directly to                                                                    
     how  many ballots  a voter  can request,  you are  only                                                                    
     allowed to choose one particular  ballot to go into the                                                                    
     box.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:14:19 AM                                                                                                                   
He  detailed that  following the  report that  both ballots  were                                                               
given  to  voters,  there  were  additional  reports  of  further                                                               
potential  concern  coming  out  of  Shungnak.  He  referenced  a                                                               
Shungnak  election worker  who was  interviewed  by a  television                                                               
reporter as follows:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     She said she had not  received training in a few years,                                                                    
     her quote is,  "I did receive training a  few years ago                                                                    
     in the last  election they had for  senators and stuff,                                                                    
     but I  haven't had  an election for  a few  years." Why                                                                    
     would  this  be  a  potential  concern?  Again,  Alaska                                                                    
     statute  requires   that  the  Division   of  Elections                                                                    
     director provide training  for election officials prior                                                                    
     to the primary election.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI  referenced a slide  that showed the  poll worker                                                               
application from the Division of  Election website as well as the                                                               
training requirements  for fulltime  and temporary staff  for the                                                               
Division of Elections                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLZE asked  Mr. Brefczynski to verify  that another issue                                                               
in Shungnak pertained to the time of the open poll hours.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BREFCZYNSKI replied  that how  long the  poll was  left open                                                               
remained unclear.  He revealed that  a worker was quoted  to have                                                               
said, "I  tried getting ahold  of them," meaning the  Division of                                                               
Elections,  "Right  after  I  closed   the  polls  at  9:00."  He                                                               
explained that  the actual poll  closing was unclear  because the                                                               
worker may  have meant  when the  doors were  locked or  when she                                                               
stopped taking voters.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:16:33 AM                                                                                                                   
He announced that  he would next address  Chefornak, District 38.                                                               
He referenced a slide and explained as follows:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     This slide shows again the  breakdown for the Chefornak                                                                    
     race by party and title  ballot. You'll notice that the                                                                    
     parties  that   the  numbers   all  align,   for  every                                                                    
     Democratic  type primary,  there  were  86 voters,  for                                                                    
     every  Republican primary,  there were  16 voters.  The                                                                    
     state House  race did not have  a Republican candidate.                                                                    
     If  you   add  up   the  U.S.   Senate  and   the  U.S.                                                                    
     Representative  race,  you  get 102  total  ballots  or                                                                    
     total  voters,  but if  you  look  at the  Division  of                                                                    
     Election  reports for  the amount  of  cards that  were                                                                    
     cast you  have 204 cards  cast, exactly double  of what                                                                    
     voted   in  the   races  for   U.S.   Senate  or   U.S.                                                                    
     Representative.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He addressed Newtok, District 38 as follows:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The issues  coming out of  Newtok, the main issue  is I                                                                    
     would say  self-explanatory or easier of  the issues to                                                                    
     understand.  You'll  see on  the  left  under the  2016                                                                    
     primary,  you will  notice the  voter turnout  which is                                                                    
     being reported by the Division  of Elections is: 105.58                                                                    
     percent.  Again, there's  a breakdown  of  the race  by                                                                    
     type of  primary ballot,  on the  left the  cards cast:                                                                    
     227. The  race with  the largest  amounts of  votes was                                                                    
     the U.S.  House of  Representative race  which received                                                                    
     93  votes   combined  for  Republican   and  Democratic                                                                    
     ballots.  There  are  215   registered  voters  in  the                                                                    
     precinct of  Newtok, yet the precinct  is reporting 227                                                                    
     cards that were casted;  again, for 105.5 percent voter                                                                    
     turnout.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   STOLTZE   remarked   that   Newtok   exhibited   spirited                                                               
patriotism.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:18:46 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  BREFCZYNSKI  announced that  the  last  precinct issue  that                                                               
would  be covered  pertained  to Copper  Center,  District 6.  He                                                               
detailed that  Copper Center encompassed Chitina,  Copper Center,                                                               
and Tazlina.  He added that  the precinct started outside  of the                                                               
juncture for the Glennallen and Richardson highways.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  asked  Mr. Brefczynski  to  confirm  that  Copper                                                               
Center's  issue   pertained  to  not  reporting   their  precinct                                                               
numbers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI revealed that  Copper Center's unofficial numbers                                                               
have been reported, but no numbers were reported for 10 days.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE  remarked that the  Division of Elections  may have                                                               
an easy  and logical  explanation, but  added that  not reporting                                                               
votes was always a source of  concern. He stated that a nefarious                                                               
motive  was  not  being  assumed,   but  the  public  was  always                                                               
comforted with more information to explain circumstances.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BREFCZYNSKI  reviewed the  areas  of  concern for  the  four                                                               
precincts as follows:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   1. House District 40-Shungnak: allegedly the voters were                                                                     
     allowed to vote on both Republican and Democratic ballots                                                                  
     and the election workers did not receive proper training.                                                                  
   2. House District 38-Chefornak: the amount of voters was half                                                                
     of that reported for ballots casted.                                                                                       
   3. House District 38-Newtok: 105 percent turnout.                                                                            
   4. House District 6-Copper Center: 10-day delay before                                                                       
     reporting an unofficial election result.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:21:36 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  STOLTZE revealed  that his  office had  received a  lot of                                                               
phone calls  from people throughout the  state regarding problems                                                               
or irregularities. He  detailed that he invited  people to submit                                                               
their issues  in writing  for the Division  of Elections  and the                                                               
committee  to review.  He remarked  that the  committee's meeting                                                               
was not an  overly inclusive review, but the  more glaring issues                                                               
that  caused questions  were addressed.  He said  the committee's                                                               
intent was  not to  get into  anecdotal information  unless folks                                                               
were  willing to  come forward.  He asserted  that the  committee                                                               
deferred  only to  things that  were fairly  clinical and  easily                                                               
examinable.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI concurred  with Chair Stoltze and  noted that the                                                               
data was from the Division of Elections as well.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:23:57 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  MEYER asked  if images  from the  2016 Primary  Election                                                               
would be presented to the committee  as well. He recalled that he                                                               
saw people who  were voting in the open. He  asserted that voting                                                               
was supposed to  be very private, but remarked that  there may be                                                               
an explanation  for the  voting in  the open  and added  that the                                                               
situation  may have  involved a  special-needs  person. He  asked                                                               
that the director address his query.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  commented  that  Senator  Meyer's  concern  would                                                               
specifically be  posed to  Director Bahnke.  He remarked  that he                                                               
did  not  want  to  jump  to a  conclusion  absent  other  backup                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  stated that he  was not  aware of any  problems in                                                               
District 6,  Copper Center.  He asked if  the electoral  race was                                                               
particularly close.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  explained  that District  6  jumped  out  because                                                               
results were  reported over a  week after the election.  He noted                                                               
that Copper Center was a large precinct in the district.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI  concurred and noted  that Copper Center  was the                                                               
fifth largest precinct within District 6.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE reiterated  that Director  Bahnke would  hopefully                                                               
provide a simple explanation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:25:53 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR MCGUIRE joined the committee meeting.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  commented that  knowing if the  race was  close or                                                               
not was irrelevant because every  vote matters and every vote was                                                               
important. He asserted that voting  was the only power people had                                                               
over its government.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE opined  that Alaska's elections were  a lot cleaner                                                               
than the famous Lyndon Johnson races.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS asked  Mr. Brefczynski  to address  the language                                                               
used on ballots and inquired if there was some federal oversite.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI  replied that the  committee was provided  with a                                                               
packet of  media articles and  noted that two  articles addressed                                                               
the Lieutenant  Governor saying  that there  didn't appear  to be                                                               
any issues  regarding native  languages on  the ballot.  He added                                                               
that he met with Department of Justice officials as well.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE noted  that  the committee  received  a memo  from                                                               
Legal  Services,  Work  Order   No.  29-LS1729,  which  addressed                                                               
questions  the  committee  had, specifically  on  legal  remedies                                                               
should an election have problems. He  asked Mr. Bullard if he had                                                               
any general comments on the memo.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:28:08 AM                                                                                                                   
ALPHEUS  BULLARD, Attorney,  Legislative Legal  Services, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska,  addressed  general  remedies   for  election  issues  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Start  with a  recount  that can  be  requested by  the                                                                    
     losing  candidate   within  five  days  of   a  primary                                                                    
     election. If there's a  recount, all ballots, including                                                                    
     absentee ballots that have come  in before the recount,                                                                    
     will be  tabulated again by the  Division of Elections.                                                                    
     Beyond a  recount there is  a procedure  for contesting                                                                    
     the  results  of an  election  under  AS 15.20.540  and                                                                    
     there are also provisions for  appeal to the courts and                                                                    
     provisions for  appeal to the,  in the case of  a state                                                                    
     election for  the legislature, appeal to  the body that                                                                    
     the losing candidate would have  been in. Those are the                                                                    
     most  immediate and  first step  remedies for  a losing                                                                    
     candidate  or  in  some  cases,  ten  voters,  affected                                                                    
     voters who are aggrieved by the results.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:30:59 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE asked  Mr. Bullard to confirm that  a recount could                                                               
be initiated  by any ten  voters. He  inquired if the  ten voters                                                               
had  to reside  within the  election district  or just  voters of                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD replied as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The  statute provides  that they  have to  be qualified                                                                    
     voters and I would interpret  that to be voters who are                                                                    
     affected because  their ballots  are at issue,  so they                                                                    
     would  have  to be  from,  well,  in  the case  of  the                                                                    
     primary for  the state legislature, they  would have to                                                                    
     be from the appropriate House district.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked  if there was a  catchall-provision for the                                                               
state to  decide beyond  the percentage  threshold to  initiate a                                                               
recount  based  on a  state  interest  in abnormal  reports  from                                                               
precincts,   suspicion   of   voter  fraud,   or   suspicion   of                                                               
misinformation given to voters.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The only  case in which a  recount will occur if  it is                                                                    
     not  requested is  if the  director finds  that there's                                                                    
     been  a tie-vote  between  the  candidates, other  than                                                                    
     that, to catch  up the majority of  these incidences we                                                                    
     have  a division-zone  process of  reviewing votes  and                                                                    
     the final  certification of votes and  that is normally                                                                    
     the review which all of our elections go through.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE suggested that  future legislators consider other                                                               
reasons for a recount and a review.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:33:36 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE  recognized that Representative Vazquez  had joined                                                               
the committee meeting.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BULLARD announced  that he  would answer  specific questions                                                               
regarding  the  recount  procedure, contesting  an  election,  or                                                               
appealing to the Legislature or the Congress.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  asked  if  Mr.  Bullard  was  familiar  with  the                                                               
circumstances regarding  the Finkelstein v. Stout  and the McGill                                                               
v. Thomas cases.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD described the cases as follows:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     In  the McGill  v. Thomas  case,  I'm not  sure that  I                                                                    
     would  describe what  happened as  a necessary  remedy.                                                                    
     Some sort of  steps are missing, in my  research it was                                                                    
     a  superior  court   case  so  of  course   it  has  no                                                                    
     precedential value; that election  was set aside by the                                                                    
     superior court,  a result that  was not appealed  and I                                                                    
     believe  from  looking  at the  minutes  of  the  House                                                                    
     journal that the then governor  found a third person to                                                                    
     appoint  to the  seat, finding  a vacancy  in the  case                                                                    
     that  neither  candidate  had   been  elected,  then  I                                                                    
     believe  there was  a  subsequent  special election  to                                                                    
     fill the seat.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:35:53 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE asked  Mr. Bullard to verify that  the election was                                                               
essentially rerun.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD replied that was his imperfect understanding.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE asked  Mr. Bullard  to  clarify that  there was  a                                                               
special election  and there was an  outcome which may or  may not                                                               
have been different in the primary, but it was rerun.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD replied that was his understanding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE added that McGill v.  Thomas was a case where there                                                               
was a  primary loss,  then one  candidate ran  as a  write-in and                                                               
there was a contested election that  went to the court system. He                                                               
asked that  Mr. Bullard  address the  general facts  and remedies                                                               
for the Finkelstein v. Stout case.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     A  close election,  the  candidate  that was  initially                                                                    
     found to have lost was  found to have won following the                                                                    
     recount; again,  a close number of  votes. The division                                                                    
     certified that  recount against the initial  victor and                                                                    
     then there was another  election recount and the Alaska                                                                    
     Supreme  Court  upheld  the outcome  of  that  election                                                                    
     finding that  the errors of voting  officials would not                                                                    
     be held  against the voters  casting the  ballots which                                                                    
     were not  as the  law required them  to. But  the court                                                                    
     found that the errors in the  ballot were due to on the                                                                    
     part of  election officials and  that election  and its                                                                    
     results  were upheld.  The court  found,  I should  say                                                                    
     that  the  official  mistakes   had  not  effected  the                                                                    
     integrity  of  the  electoral process,  therefore  they                                                                    
     were upheld.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:38:05 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE pointed  out that the Division  of Elections during                                                               
the  voting process  that Mr.  Bullard described  determined some                                                               
formulas on  how votes would be  casted and noted that  there was                                                               
terminology about "3.96 votes." He  noted that his only reference                                                               
on fractional  votes had since been  repealed and that had  to do                                                               
with "three  fifths." He asked  if Mr. Bullard could  explain the                                                               
division's remedies  or did he  have a deep  enough understanding                                                               
of fractional votes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD replied as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     I  think that  the case  that you  are referring  to is                                                                    
     Hammond v.  Hickel, which is  another case in  the same                                                                    
     line of  cases and that  was where the formula  came in                                                                    
     for the  counting of  votes and that  was a  case where                                                                    
     there  was a  series  of  what the  court  found to  be                                                                    
     isolated  incidences  of  irregularity that  the  court                                                                    
     found  did  not   cumulatively  considered  change  the                                                                    
     election  enough to  render  the  electoral outcome  in                                                                    
     doubt. The court  held in that instance that  if a bias                                                                    
     cannot be  shown that even significant  deviations from                                                                    
     the norm  would not  amount to malconduct  unless there                                                                    
     was a  knowing non-compliance  with the law  or whether                                                                    
     the  electoral  officials   had  displayed  a  reckless                                                                    
     indifference to the norms  established by statute, that                                                                    
     it  wasn't  enough  to  show  malconduct  that  it  was                                                                    
     necessary  for   the  plaintiffs   to  show   that  the                                                                    
     malconduct changed the election results.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE asked Mr. Bullard to define "malconduct."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:40:06 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. BULLARD detailed as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The court defined malconduct in  that case, they define                                                                    
     malconduct  on  the part  of  an  election official  to                                                                    
     require  evidence of  bias  resulting from  significant                                                                    
     deviation   from    statutorily   or   constitutionally                                                                    
     prescribed  norms  and  held that  plaintiffs  had  the                                                                    
     burden  of  proving  that malconduct  on  the  part  of                                                                    
     election  officials and  proving  that that  malconduct                                                                    
     would have changed the results of the election.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  reiterated that  District 6 did  not report                                                               
their  results until  10 days  after the  primary. He  noted that                                                               
District 6  had 20 voters  and stated  that he believed  the race                                                               
was  decided by  more  than 20  votes. He  asked  if Mr.  Bullard                                                               
believed  that  a  court  would intervene  in  a  situation  that                                                               
occurred in District 6 and overturn  the results or require a new                                                               
election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE clarified  that the committee's intent  was for the                                                               
Director Bahnke to  talk about the process issue. He  said he did                                                               
not  think  the  committee  or staff  thought  what  occurred  in                                                               
District 6 was relevant to the outcome of the election.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:42:10 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. BREFCZYNSKI clarified that the  slide showing Copper Center's                                                               
precinct  results arbitrarily  showed the  U.S. Senator  race and                                                               
was not meant to single out Democrats.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE  disclosed that the  margin in the District  6 race                                                               
was almost 20  percentage points and the reporting  delay was not                                                               
relevant in the process, but not  reporting for a week and a half                                                               
required  an explanation.  He opined  that a  reporting delay  in                                                               
another precinct might have been a bigger issue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI noted that the  mistakes made in District 38                                                               
did not appear  to be enough to change the  election's result. He                                                               
asked  if the  mistakes made  would be  something that  the court                                                               
would require a new election or overturn the results.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     I cannot  speak to  any of  these ongoing  elections or                                                                    
     how significant  some ballots may be.  The end analysis                                                                    
     if a court  examines this issue will  be the cumulative                                                                    
     effect  of those  ballots amongst  all  of the  ballots                                                                    
     casted  in  those  elections  and  whether  they  would                                                                    
     affect the results.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE clarified that the  percentages were fairly wide in                                                               
District 38, but  the issue was a fairly  illustrative example of                                                               
potential  delivery of  more than  one ballot.  He remarked  that                                                               
explaining  the  multiple  ballot  dynamic  irrespective  of  the                                                               
outcome was in the public's  best interest. He specified that the                                                               
committee  intended  to  clarify   the  issue  of  following  the                                                               
statutes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:44:34 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI noted  that District  40 was  a very  close                                                               
race  were the  candidates were  separated by  3 or  4 votes.  He                                                               
reiterated that two  ballots were reportedly given  to people. He                                                               
said  his guess  was  the people  wanted to  vote  for the  House                                                               
members as well as vote in  the Senate and congressional races on                                                               
the Republican ballots. He asked  Mr. Bullard if there was enough                                                               
of an error to cause the court to overturn the election.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Once again, I really don't  want to speculate about any                                                                    
     of the  ongoing elections. I  don't know what  the vote                                                                    
     totals are,  I don't  know what  the number  of ballots                                                                    
     are,  what  the  proportional values  of  any  question                                                                    
     votes may be.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   asked  hypothetically   if  a   race  was                                                               
separated by a few votes and  people received ballots in both the                                                               
Democratic and Republican primary,  was receiving two ballots the                                                               
sort of thing that a court would require a new election.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It's a violation  of our statutes on  what ballots need                                                                    
     to  be provided.  I don't  know  whether the  necessary                                                                    
     bias is there  or what a court would find.  This is not                                                                    
     a situation the specifics  of which have been addressed                                                                    
     by an Alaska court before.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:46:31 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  STOLTZE  pointed out  that  the  overseer of  the  state's                                                               
elections,  the lieutenant  governor,  was acutely  aware of  the                                                               
dynamics  of  primary voting.  He  revealed  that the  lieutenant                                                               
governor commented  on primary voting following  the 2010 primary                                                               
election about  the need  for rural  Alaskans to  make themselves                                                               
available to  vote in  the primary so  that they  could influence                                                               
important federal elections. He  said others have established the                                                               
important dynamic  and he  surmised that the  need to  choose was                                                               
obviated  if  a person  receives  both  ballots. He  opined  that                                                               
whether a change would have occurred was open to speculation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER   asked  when  the   federal  government   or  the                                                               
Department of Justice would get  involved, especially in the case                                                               
where the  process was flawed  or compromised in  three districts                                                               
that have a  lot of minority folks  as well as folks  that do not                                                               
speak English as their first language.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     I  don't  know at  what  point  the federal  government                                                                    
     might  involve itself.  I  will  say historically  that                                                                    
     we've    had    elections     with    greater    voting                                                                    
     irregularities.  I think  the  Hickel  v. Hammond  case                                                                    
     that  was  mentioned  earlier   in  which  the  federal                                                                    
     government did not involve itself.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS  asked  if  communities   had  the  autonomy  to                                                               
invalidate a local election.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:49:58 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     I think  that in this  case all of these  elections are                                                                    
     run by  the state and  so I  don't know what  basis the                                                                    
     local official  would have for  overturning if  you are                                                                    
     talking  about  a  local  option  election,  that's  an                                                                    
     election conducted by the Division of Elections.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked  if the test Mr. Bullard  was talking about                                                               
with the  courts is the  actual statutory language plus  how they                                                               
view  their  integrity  decision,  for example,  the  motive.  He                                                               
pointed out  that the plain  statutory language that  Mr. Bullard                                                               
said was violated, but training looked  like it was not put forth                                                               
statutorily. He asked if the  irregularity he noted would rise to                                                               
a level of malfeasance.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:51:30 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. BULLARD replied as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Again, I'm  not going  to speculate  on the  actions of                                                                    
     this election  or any electoral  official. I  will tell                                                                    
     you that there's sort of  a consolation of factors that                                                                    
     a court  considers and  one of the  first things  is to                                                                    
     make  sure that  every vote  and every  ballot that  is                                                                    
     casted that they try to  honor the voter's intent first                                                                    
     and foremost, until the point  at which say ballots are                                                                    
     wrongly  distributed or  something, at  the point  that                                                                    
     the court  determines that  would affect  the election,                                                                    
     then the  desire to make  sure that every  ballot count                                                                    
     has  to  be  balanced  against  the  integrity  of  the                                                                    
     election as  a whole. In  deciding at which  point this                                                                    
     malfeasance has become an issue  after the election has                                                                    
     taken  place,  the courts  will  frequently  look at  a                                                                    
     mandatory statute. I don't  remember the exact language                                                                    
     of  our training  statutes or  election officials,  but                                                                    
     they become sort  of a directory if  the departure from                                                                    
     that  mandatory  statute is  not  so  great, that  they                                                                    
     can't honor the  will of the voter, then  they will not                                                                    
     enforce  it.  In other  cases,  it  was Finkelstein  v.                                                                    
     Stout,  if   we  have  a   statute  that   prevents  an                                                                    
     unregistered  voter from  voting, that's  one they  are                                                                    
     going to  enforce in a  mandatory way because  that's a                                                                    
     provision that  is designed to ensure  the integrity of                                                                    
     the electoral  process in the  same way that  a statute                                                                    
     that relates to election official training will not.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:53:50 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR COGHILL remarked that determining  the emphatic nature of                                                               
the statute  for enforcing  a single ballot  for a  single person                                                               
under a primary election would have to be addressed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE asked  that Mr.  Bullard recap  the statutes  that                                                               
were potentially violated and briefly describe them.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BULLARD replied  that he  did not  want to  speculate as  to                                                               
which statutes may have been violated.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE stated  that he would speculate  regarding the one-                                                               
person-one-ballot issue.  He asked if the  circumstance described                                                               
by individual  voters and election officials  regarding more than                                                               
one  ballot given  to  one voter  would  potentially violate  the                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:55:29 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. BULLARD answered as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It is most definitely a violation of the statute.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE  commented that  Mr. Bullard  went further  than he                                                               
did and had taken "potential" out  of his reply, a statement that                                                               
he considered to be good.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD continued as follows:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     It is  a violation of  the statute. How  that violation                                                                    
     would be  construed when it  comes time or if  there is                                                                    
     an  election contest,  whether  the  courts would  find                                                                    
     that  the right  to vote  is a  superseding mandate,  I                                                                    
     don't know, this  is a novel situation in  Alaska and I                                                                    
     haven't found another example  of voters being supplied                                                                    
     with two primary  ballots in a very  close election. So                                                                    
       I do not know how a court would come down in this                                                                        
     instance.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE asked  if Mr. Bullard would have  the same comments                                                               
with the training statute as well.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLARD replied as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Same comments, but  I think that the rule  of reason is                                                                    
     that the,  I don't  know that  the training  statute is                                                                    
     one that  is going to  be held  to have the  same cache                                                                    
     and importance as a citizen's right to vote.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE  remarked that  the state  has statutes  which have                                                               
pretty clear  intent, but the legislative  counsel's opinion that                                                               
it may  not matter  because the other  lawmaking body,  the court                                                               
system, says  it is  not important.  He asked  why the  state has                                                               
election statutes  in the first place  and noted that he  did not                                                               
expect an answer to his a question.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:58:08 AM                                                                                                                   
JOSIE BAHNKE,  Director, Division  of Elections,  Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
said  she has  served in  her  position since  October 2015.  She                                                               
noted that the  division is really fortunate  to have experienced                                                               
managers  who have  served in  various capacities  throughout the                                                               
years.  She said  she had  a lengthy  prepared statement,  and it                                                               
should  be  pretty  clear that  there  are  concerns  surrounding                                                               
election  worker  training  and   of  polling  irregularities  in                                                               
Alaska's rural  precincts. She said she  reviewed the committee's                                                               
presentation  this morning,  and  she will  respond  to the  four                                                               
concerns outlined.  She added  that she  would like  to summarize                                                               
plans for the primary election and  speak to what is happening in                                                               
Juneau this week.  The election is active right now  and will not                                                               
be  certified until  later  this week,  she  explained, when  the                                                               
state  review  board has  completed  its  audit of  the  election                                                               
materials.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE stated that Ms.  Bahnke's delivery of her testimony                                                               
is  right  on  target,  and  he  would  like  to  give  her  some                                                               
uninterrupted time.  He expressed that  the intent is  to address                                                               
the  process without  interrupting  the conduct  of the  election                                                               
itself.  "There should  only be  voting  once, and  that's on  or                                                               
before the 16th of August," he added.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:00:15 AM                                                                                                                   
MS. BAHNKE  noted that the  lieutenant governor is  traveling and                                                               
sends  his  regrets,   but  he  looks  forward   to  being  fully                                                               
transparent and cooperative in working  with the committee and to                                                               
be responsive  to any  matters the committee  may wish  to pursue                                                               
with the division of elections or  with his office. She said that                                                               
the  core  mandate  at  the  division is  to  ensure  that  every                                                               
qualified voter has the opportunity to  cast a ballot and to have                                                               
their vote  count. To  meet that mandate  and in  preparation for                                                               
the 2016  election cycle, the  division held a  two-day election-                                                               
prep  kickoff meeting  here in  Juneau in  February. It  included                                                               
regional   supervisors  and   election   management  staff,   she                                                               
explained. The purpose was to  start discussing election priority                                                               
issues,  new  or potential  changes  in  the upcoming  year-which                                                               
there were  many, and  an implementation  strategy. Among  all of                                                               
the  election administration  topics that  were covered,  a great                                                               
deal of  emphasis was placed  on election worker  recruitment and                                                               
training.  She  said  that  the overview  of  staff  training  is                                                               
required, and  she submitted  a training  plan to  the lieutenant                                                               
governor on March 1. She added  that she is happy to provide that                                                               
to the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  said that  at the February  meeting staff  was really                                                               
excited about  the ability to  incorporate technology  and employ                                                               
some  fresh ideas  into the  statewide training  plan. She  noted                                                               
that the division  had offered some tutorials, but  this year "we                                                               
went all in" in order to be  more cost effective and to provide a                                                               
more interactive  experience for the election  workers. There was                                                               
a  presentation  by KTOO  at  the  360  North studio  during  the                                                               
meeting, and  the division contracted  with KTOO to  conduct five                                                               
live  election worker  training meetings  using streaming  at its                                                               
studio in  Juneau, he stated.  The training is on  the division's                                                               
website  and on  over 300  DVDs  that were  provided to  regional                                                               
offices and  rural precincts.  She said  she is  proud to  be the                                                               
first state agency  to deliver training this way in  an effort to                                                               
save  on travel  costs. The  training was  provided at  a minimal                                                               
cost,  saving   the  state  about  $225,000   while  still  being                                                               
innovative  and responsive  to all  Alaskan voters.  The division                                                               
also provided  in-person training,  she noted, which  is required                                                               
for language  assistance precincts and  were done in  St. Mary's,                                                               
Bethel, Dillingham, Fairbanks, Anchorage, and the Mat-Su area.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:04:12 AM                                                                                                                   
She  said  there  was  a  total of  1,571  election  workers  who                                                               
received  the four-hour  training  course. She  noted that  there                                                               
were questions about  the training plan that is  required by law.                                                               
Other  states have  election training  certificate programs,  but                                                               
Alaska does not,  and certainly this is a huge  area of focus for                                                               
the division. On  Election Day, "It's our  election officials who                                                               
really help  us meet our  core mandate in ensuring  that Alaskans                                                               
have a  meaningful opportunity to  vote, and so  we put a  lot of                                                               
faith and trust  in them." Obviously, there were  a few instances                                                               
where the  training was  not provided, she  stated, and  once the                                                               
dust settles with the primary,  the election management team will                                                               
regroup to  address those  training gaps  going into  the general                                                               
election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE noted  there was a comment in  the press attributed                                                               
to Ms. Bahnke that characterized  the election process as part of                                                               
an ongoing training exercise. He asked for clarification.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE responded that she was  not aware of having said that.                                                               
Training is  an activity that  happens before an  election-not on                                                               
Election Day, she clarified.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  said he  will  let  the  press "mess  with  that,                                                               
because they are the ones that reported it."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked if the  training requires a  "sign-off" or                                                               
some accountability for staff who have received training.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:07:56 AM                                                                                                                   
MS. BAHNKE answered  that detailed training and  work records are                                                               
kept  for   precinct  workers.  With  respect   to  the  Shungnak                                                               
precinct,  the  division learned  that  the  precinct chair  gave                                                               
voters both  ballots when the  results were reported to  the Nome                                                               
office on Wednesday morning. She said  that the polls closed at 8                                                               
o'clock, and  the precinct attempted  to call the Nome  office to                                                               
report results.  On election night  the Nome office has  11 phone                                                               
lines and  receives reports from  about 95 precincts  through the                                                               
hand-count process,  so the [Shungnak]  chair called in  the next                                                               
morning.  She  noted that  the  election  boards are  trained  to                                                               
provide only one  ballot during the primary, and  it wasn't until                                                               
last Friday when  they received the precinct  materials back from                                                               
Shungnak that  they could really  verify that the  election board                                                               
did,  in fact,  issue both  ballots.  She said  the state  review                                                               
board will  be reviewing that today,  and her goal is  to certify                                                               
all of House  District 40 this afternoon. It is  one of the first                                                               
things that the state review board  is working on here in Juneau,                                                               
she added.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She said the training for  that precinct was provided in Kotzebue                                                               
in  June 2014,  and  "They did  not participate  in  any kind  of                                                               
training that  we had  offered-six teleconference  trainings, and                                                               
all our  election workers were advised  to do that. We  also send                                                               
out our  polling place procedures for  the hand-count communities                                                               
and also,  our new training DVD.  So, while we try  in earnest to                                                               
ensure  that our  election workers  are prepared,  sometimes they                                                               
don't attend,  and there's really  no ramifications for  them not                                                               
to attend,"  she added. For  example, they  are not asked  not to                                                               
work on Election Day if they have not received training.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:10:00 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE  said, regarding providing  two ballots,  the media                                                               
quoted [someone  who said]  that it  was not  a big  deal because                                                               
nobody  voted  twice  in the  Democratic  primary.  "Having  been                                                               
involved in the  political process, is it a  possibility that the                                                               
dynamics are changed  if people have decided to vote  just in the                                                               
national elections,  which there were contested  primaries on the                                                               
Republican ballot if  they had opted to take  that ballot instead                                                               
and actually  may have been  illegally given that ballot  if they                                                               
weren't eligible under the statute.  Did that change the dynamics                                                               
of the election  in validating it, sometime, and  on the election                                                               
ballot, if  you vote  for two  candidates in  a-you don't  get to                                                               
vote for both  of those." Such a ballot will  be invalidated by a                                                               
combination of  state law and  election procedures, he  noted. He                                                               
said  that, in  fairness, he  has dealt  with the  media and  the                                                               
public process and sometimes when  his quotes are verbatim, he is                                                               
really embarrassed,  but he offered  to give Ms. Bahnke  a chance                                                               
to  "maybe clarify  on  the  dynamics of  the  importance of  two                                                               
ballots for one voter."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  said, absolutely, this  is a very serious  issue that                                                               
the  division  has  been  looking  at.  Going  into  the  general                                                               
election, voters  will only  have one ballot,  but the  fact that                                                               
the primary has  two ballots obliges her division to  do a better                                                               
job educating voters  about the two-ballot system.  "I think it's                                                               
definitely  something that  we will  evaluate,  again after  this                                                               
election is certified," she stated,  but if voting irregularities                                                               
in Shungnak appear  to have changed the outcome of  the race, "we                                                               
are  absolutely considering  options of  what to  do." She  added                                                               
that she is  working closely with the Department of  Law (DOL) in                                                               
evaluating those options.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:12:58 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  HUGGINS  noted  that  Ms.   Bahnke  said  she  gave  the                                                               
lieutenant governor  a training plan  in March, so that  is about                                                               
five and  a half months  leading up  to the primary  election. He                                                               
asked for the  chronology and milestones of the  training plan to                                                               
accomplish all of the tasks.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAHNKE  replied  that  the division  is  divided  into  four                                                               
regions  for   the  purposes  of  administering   elections,  and                                                               
regional  offices are  conducting training.  The months  of March                                                               
through  June  are  spent   recruiting  election  workers,  doing                                                               
polling  place agreements  with the  various polling  places, and                                                               
delivering training.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:14:42 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR HUGGINS noted Ms. Bahnke  was very specific in saying she                                                               
had trained  1,571 people,  "so you  had a  pretty good  count of                                                               
individuals." He then asked how she knows that figure.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAHNKE  said,  in  advance  of  the  primary  election,  she                                                               
produced a briefing  for the lieutenant governor,  and to compile                                                               
that, the regional supervisors provided  their exact numbers. The                                                               
briefing is available to the committee, she noted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked how many people were not trained.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE said she would have to get back on that.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS noted  that there is a primary coming  up, and he                                                               
assumes that  there is a  remedial training portion of  the March                                                               
training plan. He asked Ms. Bahnke to describe it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  said that she  is planning to reconvene  the regional                                                               
supervisors  in the  next  few  weeks or  months  to  do a  post-                                                               
election  briefing, and  this  is definitely  an  area they  will                                                               
focus on. She  is required to provide in-person  training to many                                                               
of the  language-assistance communities,  and "we've  also talked                                                               
about   conducting  our   four-hour  training   at  AFN   [Alaska                                                               
Federation  of  Natives convention]  in  Fairbanks  this year  in                                                               
advance  of   the  general   election."  She   said  that   is  a                                                               
conversation that  she will have  with regional  supervisors, and                                                               
she will be happy to provide a revised plan.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:17:05 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR MEYER noted  that Ms. Bahnke will review  the process and                                                               
training for District 40. He  asked about the 105 percent turnout                                                               
in District 38.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE said that some  smaller precincts throughout the state                                                               
hand  count the  ballots after  the polls  close on  Election Day                                                               
using tally  books. The results  of those counts are  called into                                                               
the appropriate regional  offices, and data are  entered into the                                                               
regional  [Global  Election  Management]  (GEMS)  computers,  the                                                               
ballot tabulation  system, and then  the data is uploaded  to the                                                               
host  GEMS server  in Juneau,  she explained.  She added  that on                                                               
election night,  with regard to  Chefornak, the  election workers                                                               
taking  precinct phone  calls in  Nome  had a  data entry  error.                                                               
Chefornak was  entered with  the wrong  number of  voted ballots,                                                               
but she brought  that to the attention of the  state review board                                                               
this morning, and they will review it and make adjustments.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:19:03 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE  asked how  adjustments are made  to undo  a double                                                               
vote.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE gave  the example of Newtok where it  appears that the                                                               
number of  ballots cast  was entered  as 151  instead of  51. The                                                               
totals  are now  correct.  The  results that  are  posted on  the                                                               
website  are  unofficial,  she  explained,  and  the  data  entry                                                               
mistakes were fixed and disclosed  to the state review board. The                                                               
board  also verifies  the results  prior to  certification of  an                                                               
election.  She said  the review  board members  are the  ones who                                                               
actually adjust the  mistakes on the GEMS  server. Similar issues                                                               
happened in Chefornak and Newtok, she added.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  stated that  some statutes  were broken  and asked                                                               
how one certifies an election that was not legal.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE referred to the Department of Law.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     If you were a candidate  in District 38 or District 40,                                                                    
     and there  may be  other districts  we don't  even know                                                                    
     about whose election was  determined or finalized based                                                                    
     on  the results  of the  primary, would  you feel  good                                                                    
     about this election?                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE answered  that she is in the process  of convening the                                                               
state review board,  a 10-member bipartisan group,  to review all                                                               
of  the ballots  cast. She  explained that  the bipartisan  group                                                               
goes through  a very  stringent auditing  process, and  not until                                                               
they are complete with their work, can she answer that question.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:22:17 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ  asked  if   training  is  mandatory  for                                                               
election workers.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAHNKE said  statute calls  for comprehensive  training, but                                                               
she does not believe the word "mandatory" is used.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ  asked  if  the  answer  is  yes,  it  is                                                               
required by statute.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  answered that AS  15.01.107 requires the  division to                                                               
have a comprehensive training program.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   VAZQUEZ   asked   about  consequences   for   an                                                               
individual who does not participate in training.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE said  there are no sanctions for  election workers who                                                               
do not attend training.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ  asked how  many workers  who participated                                                               
in the primary election were not trained.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE said those numbers will  be provided later. Due to the                                                               
close House race  in District 40 and the potential  for a recount                                                               
request,  the state  review  board is  working  to certify  those                                                               
results later  today. She noted  her prepared  written statement,                                                               
and  said, "I  don't know  that I  can really  respond much  more                                                               
until the  results have been  certified," but stated that  she is                                                               
happy  to  listen  and  take   notes  regarding  the  committee's                                                               
concerns and follow  up as soon as more  information and analysis                                                               
is available.  She said she  may need  to return to  the process,                                                               
and there  are staff  here taking  notes, but  she would  like to                                                               
make herself available to appear  at future committee hearings in                                                               
person once  the results are  certified and she can  provide more                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:25:32 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE said he understood  the constraints going into this                                                               
process, but he wanted the meeting to be timely as well.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE  thanked the director for  attending, saying that                                                               
the first test  in a career like this is  the willingness to come                                                               
forward  during difficult  situations and  answer questions  from                                                               
elected leaders, "so you passed  the first test, and I compliment                                                               
you for it."  She added that this is not  one person's fault, but                                                               
there is  an issue here that  is very serious, which  is a series                                                               
of  systemic breakdowns.  "But we  all  need to  work through  it                                                               
together," and being here in person  helps. She then asked if Ms.                                                               
Bahnke believes  that she  or the governor  has the  authority in                                                               
regulation or in her executive powers  to hold off on the regular                                                               
certification of the election in  "this" district until there can                                                               
be a  conversation with the  Department of Justice  regarding the                                                               
federal Voting Rights  Act and with the Alaska  Department of Law                                                               
to be  sure that  "you have  crossed every  'T' and  dotted every                                                               
'I'." She  said she is  concerned that  if this is  certified and                                                               
the  winner does  not prevail  in  a future  special election  or                                                               
audit,  the  impact  on  voter  morale  and  confidence  will  be                                                               
devastating  and  possibly  unrecoverable  for  generations.  She                                                               
noted that Ms.  Bahnke is constrained in how she  can answer some                                                               
questions and stated:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     But  do  you  believe  you have  the  authority-do  you                                                                    
     believe  the governor  has  the  authority-to go  ahead                                                                    
     and,   in   this   case    because   of   the   special                                                                    
     consideration,   hold   off   on  this   march   toward                                                                    
     certification?                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:28:19 AM                                                                                                                   
MS. BAHNKE said  she is committed "to getting this  right." It is                                                               
really  important. She  agreed  that  she wants  to  be open  and                                                               
honest in communications with the  Legislature. She will take any                                                               
measure under the  advisement of DOL and take those  steps to get                                                               
it right.  "I don't  know if  the authority is  there, but  I can                                                               
certainly examine that along with folks in the administration.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE said Ms. Bahnke  is in uncharted territory. There                                                               
are basic  standards. If it  makes it  to the court,  she stated,                                                               
courts  are  reluctant  to  permit   what  they  call  "wholesale                                                               
disenfranchisement"  of qualified  electors through  no fault  of                                                               
their own,  and 98 percent of  the time courts will  be reluctant                                                               
to overturn a  result. That said, on the other  side is the issue                                                               
of malfeasance and if it has  a meaningful impact on results. She                                                               
said  her main  concern is  in Noatak,  Shungnak, and  Chefornak,                                                               
with the issue  of two ballots given to  individual voters, where                                                               
there is  105 percent of a  community voting, and where  there is                                                               
the perception  of 100 ballots  missing. "Those are the  kinds of                                                               
thing  that, I  think,  raise serious  concerns."  Some of  these                                                               
other  things,  like reporting  10  days  later as  the  statutes                                                               
allows, can be dealt with  through training. The issue of closing                                                               
the polling station in Point Hope  and not coming back until noon                                                               
the next day can be addressed with training, she added:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     I  don't   mean  to  suggest  that   they're  not  also                                                                    
     important, but to  me these three rise up  to the level                                                                    
     of serious  concerns, because  you're talking  about an                                                                    
     election that  will be decided by  a mere, potentially,                                                                    
     two handfuls of votes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She encouraged  Ms. Bahnke  to consider  her choices  and options                                                               
and to reach out to the lifelines  that she has with the DOL, the                                                               
Department of  Justice, and the  attorney general,  because there                                                               
will be challenges  and she hates to see Ms.  Bahnke go through a                                                               
process that does not leave every stone unturned.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:31:34 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI noted  that  it seems  that every  election                                                               
encounters problems, and  this time around there is  a very close                                                               
election.  There are  thousands of  people  to train,  and he  is                                                               
wondering, from  a big-picture perspective, if  Alaska has looked                                                               
into  voting by  mail. It  seems that  would solve  a lot  of the                                                               
problems. "You don't  have to train 2,000 workers  all across the                                                               
state-a  massive  state; you  don't  have  to worry  about  who's                                                               
getting the  right ballot  or not-it's  done internally;  it just                                                               
seems like  that solves a lot  of the problems," and  he asked if                                                               
the division is considering that.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAHNKE said  the division  is always  contemplating Alaska's                                                               
future elections. The lieutenant  governor has expressed interest                                                               
in evaluating some options like vote  by mail. She said she would                                                               
like to  reassure the committee  that the integrity  and security                                                               
of  Alaska's   election  system   is  well-noted  and   has  been                                                               
documented in many places, so  she takes this very seriously. For                                                               
the future,  she said, the  division is working closely  with the                                                               
Municipality of Anchorage in evaluating  its proposals to vote by                                                               
mail by April of next year. She said:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     We're working  closely with  them to  coordinate things                                                                    
     like the voter's signature  verification and looking at                                                                    
     the different systems.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She  revealed that  out  of  our 516,000  voters  in this  state,                                                               
210,000  are located  right there  within  the municipality,  she                                                               
said:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     When the  useful life of Alaska's  equipment that we've                                                                    
     been  successfully  patching  together and  has  worked                                                                    
     very,  very  well for  us,  when  we start  looking  at                                                                    
     replacing  that  system,   certainly,  vote-by-mail  is                                                                    
     definitely  something  of  interest to  the  lieutenant                                                                    
     governor and the division.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:34:30 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  COGHILL  asked  that a  follow-up  meeting  occur  after                                                               
certification,  and   he  opined  that  the   accountability  for                                                               
training will need to be addressed in statute.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE  said his idea  of a  meeting in Wasilla  being the                                                               
last one is long gone now.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRSENTATIVE LYNN  asked if the  election worker in  District 40                                                               
received the training.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAHNKE answered  that  the last  time  that election  worker                                                               
attended training was in 2014.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN   asked  if   training  is   provided  every                                                               
election, since 2014 was the previous election.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE said,  "We try to provide this."  The division focuses                                                               
a lot  of its  training efforts on  producing an  interactive DVD                                                               
because of  the travel freeze  and budget cuts, so  not everybody                                                               
received in-person  training. Regional  training was not  held in                                                               
Kotzebue or Barrow. She added:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     We are re-evaluating that at this time, and it appears                                                                     
     that we need to focus our efforts up north going into                                                                      
     the general election.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:36:30 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN asked if the same person worked in 2014.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  answered that the  precinct chair has worked  for the                                                               
division since the 2012 primary and general elections.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  asked what  evidence Ms.  Bahnke has  that a                                                               
worker has received training for the 2016 election.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  answered that the  division pays election  workers to                                                               
attend training,  so their timesheets  as well as  sign-in sheets                                                               
are sent in to the regional offices.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPERSENATIVE LYNN asked if this election worker was paid.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE replied that the worker  was paid for work on Election                                                               
Day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:38:03 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  STOLTZE  commented  that  this  large  cadre  of  election                                                               
workers  who  just work  local  and  state elections  are  active                                                               
community  people,   and  he   expressed  concern   over  casting                                                               
aspersions  by using  the terms  "malfeasance" and  "misconduct,"                                                               
because  a bad  result  can  be due  to  an  honest mistake.  The                                                               
election worker  mistake is  not from malice,  he said,  and "the                                                               
act,  nonetheless, has  a deleterious  result." He  asserted that                                                               
there are incredible  people, including in his  own precinct, who                                                               
are  active  and  involved  citizens.   He  said  if  there  were                                                               
violations in law,  he does not believe they  were intentional by                                                               
election workers but from lack  of training and communication. He                                                               
added that  he wants to  compliment those hundreds of  people who                                                               
come out  for not the  greatest pay and perhaps  without overtime                                                               
compensation.  "Just like  I'd hate  to criticize  the unpaid  or                                                               
undercompensated jurors  in a court  system for bad  results," he                                                               
explained.  The  last thing  he  wants  to  do  is focus  on  the                                                               
election workers, he said, but clearly there were mistakes made.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:40:00 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  noted that  the governor's budget  is going                                                               
to get  rolled out  in a couple  of months, and  he asked  if Ms.                                                               
Bahnke has plans to ask  for additional resources for training to                                                               
deal with the problems that occurred during this election.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE answered, "We're set  for this election cycle for this                                                               
year."   She  said   the   division   received  a   multiple-year                                                               
appropriation to  conduct elections.  She detailed that  when the                                                               
division  starts   to  look  at   the  primary  for   2018,  that                                                               
conversation  will  begin,  but  for now  the  division  will  do                                                               
whatever it  takes, going into  the general elections,  to ensure                                                               
that the election workers are  supported and have what they need.                                                               
She stated:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        We want them to have a successful experience for                                                                        
     voters in their communities, and, so, we'll be looking                                                                     
     at that again.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:41:14 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE  asked how much  time she  will need to  respond to                                                               
the questions today; there are  about five people from the public                                                               
who  have signed  up  to  speak, and  one  is  from the  affected                                                               
region. He  said to  take the  time she needs  to respond  to the                                                               
slideshow presentation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  said she  is done.  She added that  she was  going to                                                               
just take notes and follow up later.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE asked Ms. Bahnke to describe her schedule.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  answered that the hand-count  verification process is                                                               
occurring  today.   She  specified  that   40-temporary  election                                                               
workers were at Centennial Hall. She detailed:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Those 40 precincts, one randomly selected out of each                                                                      
      house district to do a hand-count verification. They                                                                      
     will be down there for the next few days.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAHNKE  said the state  review board is scheduled  to certify                                                               
the primary election on Friday, September 02, 2016, and added:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Although, per state law, the  requirement is the day of                                                                    
     Labor Day, maybe September 6th,  but we'll be then next                                                                    
     certifying  the ballot  for the  general elections,  so                                                                    
     those deadlines come back to back.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She said  she will be  regrouping with regional  supervisors. She                                                               
revealed  that   following  Election   Day,  there  is   all  the                                                               
preparations and work  that goes on in the  regional offices. She                                                               
noted that  the division concluded  its final 10-day  upload last                                                               
Friday around midnight,  and all election materials  are now here                                                               
in  the director's  office in  addition  to all  the ballots  and                                                               
precinct  registers.  She  believes  that there  are  still  five                                                               
precincts left;  for now, she is  focusing on that this  week and                                                               
answering questions  for the state  review board, perhaps  take a                                                               
breather and then gear right back up for the general election.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:45:01 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE asked Ms. Bahnke  to describe the membership of the                                                               
review board.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAHNKE  replied  that  all  members  are  from  Juneau:  two                                                               
Republicans, two Democrats, the  remaining six are nonpartisan or                                                               
undeclared.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   STOLTZE   expressed   appreciation   for   Ms.   Bahnke's                                                               
attendance. He  asserted that Ms.  Bahnke's responses  cleared up                                                               
some things and  maybe raised questions on  others; however, that                                                               
is an important part of the Legislature's process.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE opened public testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:46:40 AM                                                                                                                   
LUKE WELLES, representing himself,  Barrow, Alaska, revealed that                                                               
he voted  in District  40, the Browerville  Precinct. He  said he                                                               
and  his wife  were frustrated  that there  were challenges  with                                                               
voting. He disclosed that he  was a registered Republican and his                                                               
intent  was to  vote the  open ballot.  He detailed  that he  was                                                               
informed that  he would need  to vote a  question-ballot instead.                                                               
After reviewing the Division of  Election website that said, "Any                                                               
registered  voter  can  vote  the   open  ballot,"  the  precinct                                                               
relented and allowed him to vote the open ballot.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He detailed that he contacted  local and state officials to alert                                                               
them that electoral  workers informed him that  they were trained                                                               
on ballot submission.  He revealed that a  regional director from                                                               
the Division of Elections contacted him  to let him know that the                                                               
division  had difficulty  recruiting  in Barrow  and the  workers                                                               
were  not trained  as  described. He  noted that  he  had sent  a                                                               
messages to  Representative Nageak  and the Republican  Party. He                                                               
opined that  the focus was  on letting Republicans vote  the open                                                               
ballot.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WELLES  summarized that  an  effectiveness  of training  was                                                               
definitely  at  stake  and  he  questioned  whether  the  primary                                                               
election in District 40 should  be certified. He pointed out that                                                               
the decision whether or not  to allow the double-counted votes in                                                               
House District  40-Shungnak would have  an impact on  the closely                                                               
contested race.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:52:53 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  STOLTZE  remarked  that Mr.  Welles'  commentary  was  the                                                               
reason  why  the committee  wanted  to  have the  discussion.  He                                                               
reiterated  that the  committee  did not  want  to influence  the                                                               
election, but to have the  process-issues before the public prior                                                               
to  certification. He  suggested  that Mr.  Welles' remedy  would                                                               
probably  be  in the  courts  afterwards.  He restated  that  the                                                               
committee's intention was to restrict  the discussion to the 2016                                                               
primary process and election issues.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:54:03 AM                                                                                                                   
PAUL  D.   KENDALL,  representing  himself,   Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
revealed that  he was a  U.S. Senate candidate in  the Republican                                                               
primary for the  current year. He disclosed that  he was confused                                                               
when  he was  presented with  two ballots  when he  voted in  the                                                               
primary  election. He  noted  that  he had  intended  to vote  in                                                               
protest  against Representative  Millett  by  either leaving  his                                                               
selection blank  or writing in  a candidate. He pointed  out that                                                               
he did not  have a write-in option and suggested  that a write-in                                                               
opportunity  be presented  in future  primary  ballots. He  added                                                               
that  counting  no-votes  should  also be  tracked  as  well.  He                                                               
summarized  that  all  candidates  should  uniformly  answer  100                                                               
questions  for voters  to review,  the ballot  process should  be                                                               
under 24-hour video review, and  certification should be moved to                                                               
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:59:33 AM                                                                                                                   
MICHAEL  CHAMBERS,   representing  himself,   Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
revealed  that he  had posted  a  narrative on  the internet  and                                                               
noted  receiving a  comment on  his website  from an  Eagle River                                                               
voter.  He  detailed  that  the   Eagle  River  voter  questioned                                                               
receiving two  ballots and noted his  belief that a person  has a                                                               
constitutional  right  to vote  for  a  candidate that  was  best                                                               
suited and  qualified to  represent his views.  He added  that he                                                               
was  concerned with  Lieutenant Governor  Mallott overseeing  the                                                               
election in November and was against mail-in ballots.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:01:40 PM                                                                                                                   
EUGENE  CARL  HABERMAN,  representing himself,  Wasilla,  Alaska,                                                               
stated that the most important  decisions a governing body has is                                                               
dealing with elections, certifying  elections, and overseeing the                                                               
budget. He  asserted that without  an election being  correct and                                                               
transparent, the decisions made afterward were invalid.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  questioned that  an inexperienced  director was  appointed to                                                               
the Division of  Elections. He added that not  knowing the number                                                               
of  people  that   were  trained  puts  a   serious  question  of                                                               
legitimacy for the director. He  asserted that training electoral                                                               
workers was key.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He  summarized  that  allowing  a  properly  notified  public  to                                                               
observe  elections and  ballot  certification  would ensure  that                                                               
elections were going to be "kosher."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
12:07:44 PM                                                                                                                   
DAVID EASTMAN, representing himself,  Wasilla, Alaska, noted that                                                               
he  was a  candidate  in  the most  recent  primary election.  He                                                               
detailed  that  he  asked  to  be allowed  to  observe  the  vote                                                               
counting process after  the election but was told that  he had to                                                               
obtain  permission   from  the   director  of  the   Division  of                                                               
Elections.  He   revealed  that  he  attempted   to  contact  the                                                               
director,  but  was  told  that  she  was  unavailable.  He  said                                                               
ultimately he was not able  to observe the vote counting process.                                                               
He added  that a number of  other candidates had to  work through                                                               
the challenge of observing the vote counting process as well.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He asked  the committee if a  candidate has the right  to observe                                                               
the vote counting process. He  remarked that if the candidate has                                                               
the  right  to  observe  the  vote  counting  process,  then  the                                                               
Division of  Elections does not  take the candidate's  right very                                                               
seriously. He stated  that his hope was  for greater transparency                                                               
going forward with statutory enforcement.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:11:28 PM                                                                                                                   
DEBORAH  BROLLINI,   representing  herself,   Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
detailed that her son registered to  vote for the first time as a                                                               
Republican, but  the Division of  Elections had no record  of his                                                               
registration.  She asserted  that Division  of Elections  was not                                                               
communicating with the Republican Party  and her son now believes                                                               
that the process was corrupt.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:13:44 PM                                                                                                                   
MIKE COONS, representing himself,  Palmer, Alaska, suggested that                                                               
training  for election  staff should  be mandatory,  online video                                                               
conference calls  be used for  training rather than  DVDs, review                                                               
the  constant  issue  of  voting districts  with  more  than  100                                                               
percent  voter  turnout,  get  rid   of  early  voting,  and  not                                                               
certifying  the  election in  District  40  until the  issue  was                                                               
resolved. He  noted that he  did not  have a problem  with voting                                                               
for the 2016 Primary Election at the Lazy Mountain precinct.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:16:33 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE closed public testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE expressed her gratitude  towards Chair Stoltze in                                                               
holding   the  hearing.   She  opined   that   the  hearing   was                                                               
informative, conversational,  and aspersions  were not  cast. She                                                               
suggested that a  letter be crafted to the governor  to ask for a                                                               
delay in  the election certification  until greater  scrutiny had                                                               
been  afforded to  the situation.  She  remarked that  additional                                                               
information should  be provided by  the Division of  Elections on                                                               
future plans for electronic systems  in rural parts of the state.                                                               
She opined  that the  integrity of  the state's  electoral system                                                               
should  be addressed  by upgrading  the voting  systems in  rural                                                               
communities. She  asserted that what  was good for  Anchorage and                                                               
the Mat-Su should be good for Chefornak and Newtok.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:19:04 PM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ pointed out  that elections in other parts                                                               
of   the  world   were  rigged.   She  said   in  light   of  the                                                               
irregularities, maintaining  the integrity of the  state's voting                                                               
system  was  important.  She  encouraged  the  director  for  the                                                               
Division of Elections to consider  reaching out to the Department                                                               
of  Justice regarding  elections  monitoring in  order to  ensure                                                               
electoral integrity.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTIVE LYNN opined that Alaskans  live in a wonderful place                                                               
where elections  can occur, even  when there are  difficulties in                                                               
conducting the election. He remarked  that he was shocked to hear                                                               
what had occurred  in District 40 and other  districts during the                                                               
2016  Primary Election.  He  stated that  what  appeared to  have                                                               
happened was  grossly unfair to  the candidates and  should never                                                               
have  happened. He  set  forth that  the  whole electoral  system                                                               
needed to be  tied up and he hoped that  the apparent impropriety                                                               
does not occur again.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:21:13 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  HUGGINS  pointed out  that  Legislative  Affairs has  an                                                               
opinion  on  contested  elections.  He  detailed  that  contested                                                               
elections must  be brought  before the  superior court  within 10                                                               
days.  He shared  7 items  that  are potential  solutions by  the                                                               
superior court as follows:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   1. Validate results of  the election  despite the  findings of                                                               
     malconduct when irregularities are curable.                                                                                
   2. Invalidate specified  ballots  for  error  and  uphold  the                                                               
     certification.                                                                                                             
   3. Invalidate election results,  overturn  the certificate  of                                                               
     election, and order a new election be conducted.                                                                           
   4. Calculate the proportion  of the  affected ballots,  assign                                                               
     the same proportion to each candidate's results depending                                                                  
     on the results either uphold the certification or                                                                          
     invalidate it.                                                                                                             
   5. Remand the case back to the director of  elections, order a                                                               
     recount in a manner consistent with its opinion, and order                                                                 
     either certification of results or a new election depending                                                                
     on results.                                                                                                                
   6. Order the lieutenant governor to take measures  in order to                                                               
     ensure the integrity of the next election.                                                                                 
   7. Validate parts of the ballot that are not effected by error                                                               
     and validate the election results.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He summarized  that the  list was not  exhaustive, but  the seven                                                               
items were  held in  the legal opinion  as potential  remedies in                                                               
the cases of superior court in contested elections.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:23:07 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE noted that committee  and non-committee members had                                                               
a combined  experience of  50 primary  and general  elections. He                                                               
admitted  that  elections  were   challenging,  but  opined  that                                                               
elections came  down to core  principals of conduct and  that was                                                               
what the committee was trying to  focus on at the hearing for the                                                               
public. He admitted  that he had never been in  a close election,                                                               
but  expressed   empathy  for  candidates  that   were  in  close                                                               
elections.  He asserted  that when  there  were election  conduct                                                               
issues, whether intentional  or just a lack of  training, the net                                                               
result was the same.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He set forth that the committee  hearing allowed the public to be                                                               
involved,  presented  an  open and  candid  discussion  with  the                                                               
director of elections, and acted as  a conduit for the press that                                                               
probably answered some questions.  He reiterated that the outcome                                                               
of the election was not the  purview or concern of the committee.                                                               
He asserted that the committee was  focused on the conduct of the                                                               
election  and noted  that the  legal division  had laid  out some                                                               
potential  remedies. He  stated that  whether or  not the  review                                                               
process was effected by the  committee hearing or not, the review                                                               
probably should  be a little  more introspective. He  opined that                                                               
maybe  District 40  should be  the last  district that  should be                                                               
certified as the Division of  Elections continues to look at some                                                               
of the  issues. He said he  hoped that the Division  of Elections                                                               
would take note  of the issues raised by  the public, Legislative                                                               
Legal, and other others had raised during the hearing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  set   forth  that  the  committee   had  met  its                                                               
constitutional  requirement  as  a   legislative  branch  of  the                                                               
government and  its uniform  rules of  jurisdiction for  both the                                                               
House  and  Senate having  jurisdiction  on  election issues.  He                                                               
thanked  Director Bahnke  for making  herself  available for  the                                                               
hearing  and  asserted that  her  involvement  was good  for  the                                                               
public process.  He opined that  the public and the  process both                                                               
benefitted from the committee hearing.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:26:21 PM                                                                                                                   
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Stoltze adjourned  the Senate  State Affairs  Committee at                                                               
12:26 p.m.                                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
State Affairs Schedule for August 29 2016.pdf SSTA 8/29/2016 10:00:00 AM
Agenda
LAA Legal Services Memo - Contested Elections 8.26.2016.pdf SSTA 8/29/2016 10:00:00 AM
Elections
Appendix A to Presentation by SSTA 8.29.2016.pdf SSTA 8/29/2016 10:00:00 AM
Elections
1976 Tundra Times Editorial circa 1977 (Historical Item) - Anderson vs McGill.pdf SSTA 8/29/2016 10:00:00 AM
Elections
SSTA Presentation - Election Performance & Procedure Review - 8.29.2016.pdf SSTA 8/29/2016 10:00:00 AM
Elections