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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 9, 2015                                                                                          
                           9:03 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bill Stoltze, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                         
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 83                                                                                                              
"An  Act   relating  to  the  Protective   Occupation  Retirement                                                               
Council; relating  to participation  of certain employees  in the                                                               
defined  benefit and  defined contribution  plans  of the  public                                                               
employees'  retirement system;  and  providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR SENATE BILL NO. 1                                                                                        
"An Act prohibiting smoking in certain places; relating to                                                                      
education on the smoking prohibition; and providing for an                                                                      
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 83                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: PEACE OFFICER/FIREFIGHTER RETIREMENT                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) MCGUIRE                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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BILL: SB 1                                                                                                                    
SHORT TITLE: REGULATION OF SMOKING                                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) MICCICHE                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
01/21/15       (S)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/15                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
GENEVIEVE WOJTUSIK, Staff                                                                                                       
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SB 83.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM FORNIA, Actuary                                                                                                         
Pension Trustee Advisors, Inc.                                                                                                  
Centennial, Colorado                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an actuarial overview of the                                                                     
proposed Variable Benefit Retirement System.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM WESCOTT, President                                                                                                          
Alaska Professional Firefighters Association                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 83.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY CONKLING, Officer                                                                                                        
Anchorage Police Department Employees Association                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 83.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. GEORGE STEWART, MD (retired), representing himself                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER WOOLEY, representing herself                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GAIL SCHIEMANN, representing herself                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DARA GLASS, representing herself                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LUAN JENSEN, representing herself                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SHEB GARFIELD, representing himself                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BEN NGUYEN, representing himself                                                                                                
Eagle River, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JANET KINCAID, representing herself                                                                                             
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BRENDA SHELDEN, representing herself                                                                                            
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ROBIN MINARD, Director of Public Affairs                                                                                        
Mat-Su Health Foundation,                                                                                                       
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Read a colleague's letter supporting SB 1.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MISTY JENSEN, representing herself                                                                                              
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH RIPLEY, Executive Director                                                                                            
Mat-Su Health Foundation,                                                                                                       
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE GATTER, representing himself                                                                                             
Kodiak, Alaska,                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BETTY MACTAVISH, representing herself                                                                                           
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TERRENCE ROBBINS, representing himself                                                                                          
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JENNY OLENDORFF, representing herself                                                                                           
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GARY SUPERMAN, representing himself                                                                                             
Nikiski, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN SMALLEY, representing herself                                                                                             
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHRYSTAL SCHOENROCK, representing himself                                                                                       
Nikiski, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL LYNCH, representing himself                                                                                              
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL PATTERSON, representing himself                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW MACEBO, representing himself                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
LARRY HACKENMILLER, representing himself                                                                                        
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SB 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
FLORA RODDY, representing herself                                                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ERIN SHEFFLETTE, representing herself                                                                                           
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ARIEL HASSE, representing herself                                                                                               
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LUCAS ARTHUR, representing himself                                                                                              
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KEA BEKKEDAHL, representing herself                                                                                             
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:03:32 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BILL  STOLTZE called  the  Senate  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 9:03  a.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Huggins, Coghill,  Wielechowski, and  Chair                                                               
Stoltze.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           SB 83-PEACE OFFICER/FIREFIGHTER RETIREMENT                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:04:11 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STOLTZE announced the consideration of SB 83.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:04:37 AM                                                                                                                    
GENEVIEVE WOJTUSIK,  Staff, Senator  Lesil McGuire,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, introduced SB  83 on behalf  of the                                                               
sponsor,  reading  the  following   sponsor  statement  into  the                                                               
record:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     An   Act   relating   to  the   Protective   Occupation                                                                    
     Retirement  Council;   relating  to   participation  of                                                                    
     certain employees  in the defined benefit  plan and the                                                                    
     defined  contribution  plan  of the  public  employees'                                                                    
     retirement  system;  and  providing  for  an  effective                                                                    
     date.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In 2005, Alaska moved away  from a defined benefit to a                                                                    
     defined  contribution  retirement   system  for  public                                                                    
     employees hired  after July 1,  2006. Both  the defined                                                                    
     benefit  and  the  defined contribution  plans  contain                                                                    
     risks and  benefits to employees and  employers. With a                                                                    
     defined   benefit   plan   comes   the   advantage   of                                                                    
     professional  money  management,   lower  fees,  pooled                                                                    
     risk,  and long  term  investment strategies.  However,                                                                    
     employers carry significant  risk if investment returns                                                                    
     fall short  or actuarial predictions  prove inaccurate,                                                                    
     which they are shielded  from in a defined contribution                                                                    
     plan.  Taking  both  of  these   points  of  view  into                                                                    
     account, the Variable  Benefit Retirement System (VBRS)                                                                    
     was developed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:05:49 AM                                                                                                                    
WILLIAM FORNIA,  actuary, Pension  Trustee Advisors  (PTA), Inc.,                                                               
Centennial, Colorado, stated that he  is working on behalf of the                                                               
Alaska State  Firefighters Association (ASFA). He  said the focus                                                               
of  his  presentation  on  the   VBRS  Plan  is  to  address  the                                                               
following:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   · Why the change is necessary.                                                                                               
   · Proposed structure of the new variable retirement plan.                                                                    
   · Examples of how the variable retirement plan would have                                                                    
     worked if ASFA had the plan all along.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:07:06 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FORNIA  explained  that a  hypothetical  police  officer  or                                                               
firefighter  that retires  at age  56 with  an average  salary of                                                               
$80,000 would receive one of the following benefit plans:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · Tier 3 Defined Benefit (DB) Plan for people hired before                                                                   
     2005: $45,000 pension per year.                                                                                            
   · Tier 4 Defined Contribution (DC) Plan for people hired                                                                     
     after 2005: $25,000 pension per year.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  noted that  even  though  the retiree  is  not covered  under                                                               
Social  Security, the  annual Social  Security  payment would  be                                                               
$22,000. He  summarized that the  Tier 4 DC  Plan is not  a whole                                                               
lot better than Social Security  and significantly less than what                                                               
an individual  would receive from the  Tier 3 DB Plan  after a 25                                                               
year career in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:09:19 AM                                                                                                                    
He revealed that the current  retiree healthcare provision is not                                                               
likely  to provide  adequate pre-Medicare  benefits. He  detailed                                                               
that due  to healthcare costs  escalating faster than  wages, the                                                               
current average monthly premium will  increase from 39 percent of                                                               
an average Alaska Public Employees'  Retirement System (PERS) pay                                                               
to over 58 percent by 2034.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He explained  the pros and  cons of  the DB Plan  approach versus                                                               
the DC Plan approach.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He said DB plans are  more cost efficient at providing retirement                                                               
benefits and specified as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Pool longevity-risks.                                                                                                      
   · Maintains a better diversified portfolio because, unlike                                                                   
     individuals, the plan does not age.                                                                                        
   · Achieve better investment returns because of professional                                                                  
     asset management and lower fees.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FORNIA explained  that  DC plans  are  more consistent  with                                                               
individual responsibility and specified as follows:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   · Benefit is a clearly defined contribution from the employer                                                                
     and employee to a trust.                                                                                                   
   · Benefit is more under the control and full ownership of the                                                                
     individual.                                                                                                                
   · Benefit is much more portable.                                                                                             
   · No risk of unfunded liabilities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:55 AM                                                                                                                    
He stated  that VBRS tries  to strike a compromise.  He explained                                                               
that SB  83 fixes  the employer contribution  so that  there's no                                                               
risk of  the contribution  going up. He  specified that  the bill                                                               
creates  a board  to  figure out  how to  live  within the  fixed                                                               
contribution.  He specified  that the  plan has  targeted benefit                                                               
levels and the  board will have some authority to  figure out how                                                               
to  adjust benefits  or employee  contributions  as necessary  to                                                               
provide the  benefits out  of the  fixed contribution  amount. He                                                               
added  that VBRS  is designed  with a  lower anticipated  rate of                                                               
return to provide  a cushion against a long  term experience that                                                               
might be worse than expected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:13:06 AM                                                                                                                    
He explained that current members in  the DB Plan pay 7.5 percent                                                               
of pay  with employers paying  22 percent  of pay for  members in                                                               
the old  plan; however,  more than half  is going  towards paying                                                               
off old  unfunded liabilities. He  said individuals under  the DC                                                               
Plan are  putting in 8 percent  of pay and the  employer's amount                                                               
also adds up to 22 percent.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He set  forth that  the proposed VBRS  Plan increases  the member                                                               
contribution to 9  percent, keeps the employer pay  at 22 percent                                                               
with  8 percent  going towards  "legacy" pre-funded  liabilities,                                                               
and 14  percent going towards  the VBRS Plan. He  summarized that                                                               
the board  will have  to figure  out how  to make  the 9  plus 14                                                               
percent  work  and how  to  provide  the  level of  benefits.  He                                                               
revealed  that PTA's  projections are  that the  VRBS Plan  could                                                               
provide benefits  similar to the  Tier 3  DB Plan. He  added that                                                               
there  is a  chance that  the benefit  projections will  not work                                                               
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. FORNIA  said there are safeguards  that the board can  use to                                                               
make adjustments and prevent the  state from having to contribute                                                               
more than 22 percent:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · Increase employee contributions or decrease when things are                                                                
     good.                                                                                                                      
   · Provide cost of living increases.                                                                                          
   · Adjust the benefit.                                                                                                        
   · Adjust how much goes towards healthcare.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:15:34 AM                                                                                                                    
He  explained  that another  safeguard  is  a built-in  actuarial                                                               
assumptions margin where lower assumed  rates of return provide a                                                               
higher  threshold  before action  is  required  when returns  are                                                               
lower. He  added that better  than expected returns will  be used                                                               
to build reserves.  He noted that the ongoing DB  Plan assumes an                                                               
8 percent return, the VRBS Plan assumes a 7 percent return.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He referenced  a chart that modeled  the VRBS Plan if  enacted in                                                               
1985 to  present. He pointed  out that funding levels  would have                                                               
ranged from  80 percent to  158 percent.  He noted that  the VRBS                                                               
Plan  would currently  be 95  percent  funded on  a target  level                                                               
basis  and 110  percent funded  on a  guaranteed level  basis. He                                                               
summarized that the chart demonstrates  that the VRBS Plan should                                                               
work as  long as the  board is  prudent in not  guaranteeing more                                                               
than can be afforded.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:17:21 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MCGUIRE joined the committee meeting.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FORNIA reviewed case studies  of similar plans in four states                                                               
that have worked well:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   · Wisconsin: a very well-funded plan with a board that has                                                                   
     the flexibility to generate cost of living adjustments                                                                     
     based on returns.                                                                                                          
   · South Dakota: same situation as Wisconsin.                                                                                 
   · Ohio: most similar to Alaska where the contributions are                                                                   
     fixed so there is no increased contributions that have to                                                                  
     go through the Legislature; however, Ohio's board annually                                                                 
     decides how much to use for healthcare and pensions.                                                                       
   · Colorado: firefighters and police officers environment with                                                                
     a fixed contribution rate where their board makes decisions                                                                
     on how much to shift year after year.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:19:36 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FORNIA  set forth  that  the  VRBS  Plan purposes  that  the                                                               
employers  put in  14 percent  of  pay for  police officers'  and                                                               
firefighters' plans. He  noted that a small group  of people that                                                               
work in police and fire  departments that are not police officers                                                               
or firefighters would  receive a 12 percent  of pay contribution.                                                               
He pointed out  that the proposal is consistent  with other plans                                                               
across the country  as well as being consistent  some of Alaska's                                                               
significant employers such as Wells Fargo or Alaska Airlines.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He  remarked  that  the  state  is  very  concerned  with  future                                                               
unfunded liabilities  and that  is the reason  why Alaska  made a                                                               
change in 2005;  however, the change is projected  to not provide                                                               
adequate benefits for the next  generation of police officers and                                                               
firefighters. He stated that SB  83 provides a potential solution                                                               
with  benefits that  are  similar  to Tier  3  DB Plan  benefits;                                                               
however,  lower  returns  will   result  in  lower  benefits.  He                                                               
explained  that the  government takes  the risk  under Tier  3 DB                                                               
Plan and individuals each take the  risk under Tier 4 DC Plan. He                                                               
summarized that the VRBS Plan  is more efficient where the police                                                               
and firefighters take on risk as a "pooled" group.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:22:04 AM                                                                                                                    
TOM  WESCOTT,   President,  Alaska  Professional   Fire  Fighters                                                               
Association,  Anchorage,  Alaska, specified  that  he  is also  a                                                               
captain in the  Anchorage Fire Department working  out of Station                                                               
5 in Spenard.  He stated that fixing  the Tier 4 DC  Plan and its                                                               
shortcomings is very important.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WESCOTT said  the first goal of any  retirement system should                                                               
be  to ensure  that  participants  are ready  to  retire and  can                                                               
remain  self-sufficient once  they  do retire.  He asserted  that                                                               
remaining self-sufficient  for retirees is going  to be difficult                                                               
under the  Tier 4 DC  Plan and noted  that many are  not eligible                                                               
for Social Security or for  the Alaska Supplemental Annuity Plan;                                                               
for   example,  firefighters   or  police   officers  in   Kenai,                                                               
Anchorage, and Fairbanks do not participate in either plan.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  asked  if   the  non-participations  are  federal                                                               
prohibitions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WESCOTT answered  that the state has a  Section 218 Agreement                                                               
with  the  federal  government  that  outlines  participants.  He                                                               
detailed  that  firefighters  and police  officers  traditionally                                                               
have participated in  defined benefit plans based on  the need to                                                               
retire at a  younger age because of the physical  nature of their                                                               
jobs.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WESCOTT said the VBRS Plan  from SB 83 is a better retirement                                                               
system  that was  borne  out of  listening  to the  Legislature's                                                               
concerns  about  risk and  unfunded  liabilities.  The VBRS  Plan                                                               
takes from other states' plans  where tools were built-in to deal                                                               
with  adverse   experiences.  He  noted  that   Wisconsin's  plan                                                               
remained nearly 100 percent funded after a financial collapse.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  asserted that  large pooled  retirement accounts  earn higher                                                               
rates over  the long haul versus  individual retirement accounts.                                                               
He detailed  that large pooled  retirement accounts  benefit from                                                               
lower fees  through economies of  scale and earn  maximum returns                                                               
from professional  management oversight.  He added that  the VBRS                                                               
Plan pools risk and maintains  investment portfolio diversity for                                                               
all participants.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:26:11 AM                                                                                                                    
He said  SB 83 addresses  three issues  that the state  should be                                                               
concerned about:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · Costs associated with recruitment, retention, and training                                                                 
     for new hires when police officers and firefighters leave                                                                  
     for competing jurisdictions.                                                                                               
   · Higher workers' compensation where an older work force is                                                                  
     required to work "on the line."                                                                                            
   · Increase in social welfare costs where retirees run out of                                                                 
     money.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  said  a study  has  shown  that individuals  without  defined                                                               
benefit pensions  were nine  times more likely  to be  in poverty                                                               
when   they  retired;   the   Alaska  Professional   Firefighters                                                               
Association worries  that its members  would be in the  same boat                                                               
where individuals are not ready or ill prepared to retire.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  detailed   that  SB  83  allows   employee  contributions  to                                                               
fluctuate  in order  to deal  with adversities.  Medical benefits                                                               
are paid  with stipends as opposed  to a level of  coverage where                                                               
the costs  are not known.  The board determines optional  cost of                                                               
living increases  based on  the plan's health.  He added  that as                                                               
opposed  to guaranteed  benefits,  a portion  of  the benefit  is                                                               
variable where  payments are based  on what the  plan's financial                                                               
capabilities are.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He remarked that SB 83 is  not perfect. He pointed out that legal                                                               
and fiscal concerns  need to be addressed. He  summarized that SB                                                               
83 addresses a  problem and provides a better  benefit for Alaska                                                               
Professional Firefighters Association members.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:29:49 AM                                                                                                                    
JEREMY CONKLING,  Officer, Anchorage Police  Department Employees                                                               
Association,  Anchorage,   Alaska,  explained  that   not  having                                                               
defined benefits impacts the  Anchorage Police Department's (APD)                                                               
recruitment and retention of officers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CONKLING detailed  that APD  is receiving  75 percent  fewer                                                               
applications than were received in  the late 90s and early 2000s.                                                               
He asserted that  due to a lack of retirement,  people don't have                                                               
an incentive to join APD and work  for 20 years in Alaska with no                                                               
security on the back end.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that retention  is an issue  where APD  has shifted                                                               
from  being a  destination to  a training  ground where  officers                                                               
leave  after receiving  training and  certification. He  detailed                                                               
that  APD invests  several hundred  thousand dollars  on training                                                               
and  certification for  each officer.  He revealed  that officers                                                               
from  APD have  left for  places with  defined benefit  plans. He                                                               
noted that the Denver Police  Department is offering officers the                                                               
ability to buy  back up to ten years of  service; for example, an                                                               
officer with 12 to 14 years can  buy 10 years back and only do 10                                                               
more years and  get a full retirement. He  revealed that officers                                                               
in exit  interviews are saying  that not having  defined benefits                                                               
is the reason why they are leaving.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  summarized that  APD is  unable  to recruit  and keep  highly                                                               
trained, professional officers.  He said passing SB  83 will give                                                               
APD a huge advantage for recruiting and retention.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:33:05 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STOLTZE asked the sponsor to comment on SB 83.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE  remarked  that  she   is  known  for  being  an                                                               
innovator and visionary in reconsidering  the way the Legislature                                                               
does things. She said she does  not believe that things are black                                                               
and white. She  explained that in 2005 Senate  Bill 141 addressed                                                               
fiscal concerns  to move away  from a  defined benefit plan  to a                                                               
defined   contribution  plan   for   the  state's   firefighters,                                                               
teachers, and  police officers. She  said during her time  in the                                                               
Legislature,  men and  women  serving at  the  ground level  have                                                               
testified about their  concerns regarding recruitment, retention,                                                               
and retirement.  She asserted that  she wants to bring  the noted                                                               
concerns  forward  for the  Legislature  to  think about  whether                                                               
there  is  a different  way  and  asserted  that SB  83's  hybrid                                                               
approach is  a possibility.  She declared that  the fine  men and                                                               
women  that   serve  and  save  Alaska's   families  deserve  the                                                               
Legislature's attention on their retirement system.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE stated  that SB  83  will get  further review.  He                                                               
asserted  that  the  committee  puts   a  lot  of  trust  in  the                                                               
administration to review  the actuarial data and  give their best                                                               
analysis. He asked that the  committee receive a candid point-by-                                                               
point on  SB 83.  He summarized  that SB 83  deals with  a fiscal                                                               
issue which is  one of the three legs of  the state's deficit and                                                               
the committee will  have no blindfolds on during  the bill's next                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:36:54 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STOLTZE announced that SB 83 will be held in committee.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  asked that analysis  be provided  with different                                                               
parameters for alternative courses.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE agreed  that the  committee wants  to receive  the                                                               
best information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:37:46 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                   SB 1-REGULATION OF SMOKING                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:38:41 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STOLTZE  called the committee  back to order  and announced                                                               
that SB 1 is before the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:39:27 AM                                                                                                                    
DR.   GEORGE  STEWART,   MD   (retired),  representing   himself,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, said he supports SB  1. He specified that SB 1                                                               
is  about protecting  the health  of Alaskans.  He asserted  that                                                               
secondhand smoke  is toxic and causes  cancerous diseases, Sudden                                                               
Infant  Death  Syndrome,  harms children,  harms  women  who  are                                                               
pregnant, and  harms babies in  the uterus  of the women  who are                                                               
pregnant. He  said Alaskans  are entitled to  have clean  air. He                                                               
noted  that he  supports the  indoor banning  of e-cigarettes  as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:43:33 AM                                                                                                                    
JENNIFER  WOOLEY, representing  herself, Anchorage,  Alaska, said                                                               
she  supports SB  1. She  said  health prioritization  is at  the                                                               
heart  of SB  1  and  the bill's  intent  is  to protect  working                                                               
Alaskans from secondhand smoke and aerosol.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:45:02 AM                                                                                                                    
GAIL  SCHIEMANN, representing  herself,  Anchorage, Alaska,  said                                                               
she supports  SB 1. She said  she is a non-smoker  who has worked                                                               
in  the  hospitality industry  for  20  years where  smoking  was                                                               
allowed  and  now  has   Chronic  Obstructive  Pulmonary  Disease                                                               
(COPD). She asserted that secondhand  smoke makes employees sick,                                                               
is real, and it kills.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:45:47 AM                                                                                                                    
DARA  GLASS, representing  herself, Anchorage,  Alaska, said  she                                                               
supports SB 1. She revealed  personal experiences that shows non-                                                               
smokers can acquire lung cancer. She  added that her mother was a                                                               
non-smoker  who contracted  asthma due  to secondhand  smoke. She                                                               
asserted that secondhand  smoke leads to COPD,  heart issues, and                                                               
a variety of  other things. She said SB 1  will help mitigate the                                                               
health issues  created by secondhand  smoke, improve  the state's                                                               
economy, and lower the cost of medical care.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:47:21 AM                                                                                                                    
LUAN JENSEN,  representing herself,  Anchorage, Alaska,  said she                                                               
supports SB 1. She stated that  SB 1 will protect all Alaskans in                                                               
their workplaces. She  asked that SB 1 include the  indoor ban of                                                               
e-cigarettes.  She  cited  a  study  demonstrating  e-cigarettes'                                                               
possible  consequences   that  are  significant   to  respiratory                                                               
health.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:48:19 AM                                                                                                                    
SHEB GARFIELD,  representing himself, Anchorage, Alaska,  said he                                                               
opposes  SB 1.  He noted  that he  is an  ex-smoker, now  an avid                                                               
vapor and  a manager  at a  vaping café.  He shared  studies that                                                               
showed  secondhand  vapor  as  being  risk-free.  He  noted  that                                                               
nicotine  is  one  of  the  safest drugs  and  the  problem  with                                                               
secondhand smoke is due to combusting tobacco.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE  noted that there  has been  a lot volume  from the                                                               
public on the vaping issue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:52:16 AM                                                                                                                    
BEN NGUYEN,  representing himself,  Eagle River, Alaska,  said he                                                               
opposes SB 1.  He noted that he co-owns Cloud  49 in Eagle River,                                                               
a vape  shop. He said he  discontinued smoking two years  ago and                                                               
currently uses  e-cigarettes. He  asserted that  e-cigarettes are                                                               
an  alternative to  cigarette smokers  with less  harmful effects                                                               
and a lower  cost. He asked that  more time be given  to study e-                                                               
cigarettes and noted their possible  benefit in helping cigarette                                                               
smokers  avoid  lung  cancer.  He summarized  that  SB  1  simply                                                               
requests  people  to  take  smoking  outside,  but  incorporating                                                               
electronic vaporizing  into the  bill will cause  a domino-effect                                                               
that would demean  the effort in helping  people quit traditional                                                               
smoking.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:57:16 AM                                                                                                                    
JANET  KINCAID, representing  herself, Palmer,  Alaska, said  she                                                               
supports SB 1. She noted that  she spearheaded a campaign to make                                                               
Palmer smoke-free  and the ordinance  passed via  referendum. She                                                               
detailed that  most of Palmer's  bar owners are grateful  for the                                                               
ordinance with  some noting  that business  has increased  with a                                                               
decreased maintenance  costs. She  summarized that  SB 1  is good                                                               
for business and good for health.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:58:10 AM                                                                                                                    
BRENDA SHELDEN,  representing herself, Wasilla, Alaska,  said she                                                               
supports SB 1. She pointed  out that regulations already in place                                                               
have dispelled  the assertion that  smoke-free laws will  cause a                                                               
financial  barrier for  businesses. She  added that  studies have                                                               
shown  the detriment  of secondhand  smoke.  She summarized  that                                                               
making  an   investment  in  employees'  health   by  eliminating                                                               
secondhand  smoke  in  workplaces  will  result  in  a  safe  and                                                               
productive worker with reduced healthcare costs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:59:12 AM                                                                                                                    
ROBIN  MINARD,   Director  of   Public  Affairs,   Mat-Su  Health                                                               
Foundation, Wasilla,  Alaska, read  a submitted letter  on record                                                               
from board  member Benjamin Olmedo in  support of SB 1.  She read                                                               
that secondhand smoke has been  proven to be directly responsible                                                               
for a number  of poor health outcomes and  banning indoor smoking                                                               
in  the  workplace is  not  about  individual rights,  but  about                                                               
protecting public health.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:01:31 AM                                                                                                                   
MISTY  JENSEN, representing  herself, Wasilla,  Alaska, said  she                                                               
supports SB  1. She set forth  that everyone has the  right to be                                                               
free  from  the harmful  effects  of  secondhand smoke,  but  not                                                               
everyone  has the  opportunity  to choose  where  they work.  She                                                               
pointed out  that SB 1  is about  taking smoking outdoors  and is                                                               
about the smoke,  not about the smoker. She summarized  that SB 1                                                               
protects all Alaskans  because everyone has the  right to breathe                                                               
smoke-free air.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:03:07 AM                                                                                                                   
ELIZABETH RIPLEY,  Executive Director, Mat-Su  Health Foundation,                                                               
Wasilla, Alaska,  said she supports  SB 1. She noted  that Mat-Su                                                               
has some  of the highest tobacco  use rates in the  nation, which                                                               
increases chronic  respiratory disease  rates. She  asserted that                                                               
tobacco use costs Alaska $579  million annually in direct medical                                                               
costs and  lost productivity  due to  tobacco related  death. She                                                               
set  forth  that  strengthening Alaska's  smoke-free  public  and                                                               
workplace  statutes  will  help reduce  healthcare  and  Medicaid                                                               
costs  attributed to  tobacco use.  She added  that studies  have                                                               
shown  that  smoke-free laws  have  led  to increased  smoke-free                                                               
policies  in homes  that have  directly  and positively  impacted                                                               
children's health. She pointed out  that every community that has                                                               
enacted  smoking  bans  has seen  a  decrease  in  cardiovascular                                                               
events. She disclosed that increasing  tobacco-free Alaskans is a                                                               
goal of Healthy Alaskans 2020 and  clean indoor air is the number                                                               
one strategy  of the Alaska  Prevention and Control  Program. She                                                               
revealed that only  half of Alaskans are  protected by smoke-free                                                               
workplace  laws. She  disclosed that  many jurisdictions  such as                                                               
the Mat-Su  Borough do  not have the  health powers  necessary to                                                               
pass an  area wide smoke-free law.  She said Alaska needs  a more                                                               
robust  clean indoor  air statute,  which includes  e-cigarettes.                                                               
She asserted that  SB 1 is the next step  in further reducing the                                                               
smoking rates and secondhand smoke exposure in Alaska.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:06:20 AM                                                                                                                   
GEORGE  GATTER, representing  himself,  Kodiak,  Alaska, said  he                                                               
opposes SB 1. He  noted that he owns both a  smoking bar and non-                                                               
smoking  bar in  Kodiak. He  disclosed  that he  and another  bar                                                               
owner have  switched between allowing  and not  allowing smoking.                                                               
He revealed  that switching his establishment  to non-smoking for                                                               
60  days saw  a huge  revenue decline.  He pointed  out that  his                                                               
business  is on  private property  and he  reserves the  right to                                                               
conduct business  as he sees fit.  He noted that everyone  in his                                                               
establishment is  over 21  and the bill  does not  protect anyone                                                               
that  doesn't want  to be  at in  his establishment.  He asserted                                                               
that laws  should be  made to  protect the  youth and  adults who                                                               
cannot protect themselves. He stated  that pushing smokers from a                                                               
controlled  space  out into  the  streets  in front  of  Alaska's                                                               
youthful  eyes will  create the  next generation  of smokers.  He                                                               
remarked that Grandfather  Rights have never been  brought up for                                                               
smoking  establishments  and  noted that  his  establishment  has                                                               
allowed smoking for  45-plus years. He summarized that  SB 1 will                                                               
dramatically affect his business.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:08:41 AM                                                                                                                   
BETTY MACTAVISH,  representing herself, Kodiak, Alaska,  said she                                                               
supports SB  1. She revealed  that Kodiak  is not covered  by any                                                               
smoke-free  workplace law.  She said  SB  1 will  protect the  50                                                               
percent  of Alaskan  workers who  are not  covered by  smoke-free                                                               
workplace  laws. She  pointed out  that Kodiak's  local newspaper                                                               
conducted a survey  and 71 percent responded in  favor of passing                                                               
SB  1.  She  added  that  the  Kodiak  Island  Borough  passed  a                                                               
resolution in support  of SB 1. She summarized that  lives are at                                                               
stake.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:09:49 AM                                                                                                                   
TERRENCE ROBBINS,  representing himself, Ketchikan,  Alaska, said                                                               
he supports  SB 1. He  said smoking  is addictive and  deadly. He                                                               
said  protecting  Alaskans  from  secondhand  smoke  will  surely                                                               
prevent  illness, save  lives, help  tobacco users  quit smoking,                                                               
and reduce youth smoking rates.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:10:50 AM                                                                                                                   
JENNY  OLENDORFF, representing  herself,  Soldotna, Alaska,  said                                                               
she  supports  SB  1.  She  disclosed that  she  was  exposed  to                                                               
secondhand  smoke  in   an  office  for  five  years   due  to  a                                                               
neighboring business.  She revealed that the  building's landlord                                                               
refused to honor their request  to simply require the neighboring                                                               
business to have  their employees and patrons  take their smoking                                                               
outside.  She  summarized that  SB  1  will protect  all  Alaskan                                                               
workers in their workplace from  secondhand smoke and e-cigarette                                                               
aerosol.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:12:07 AM                                                                                                                   
GARY  SUPERMAN, representing  himself, Nikiski,  Alaska, said  he                                                               
opposes SB  1. He disclosed  that he owns  the Hunger Hut  Bar in                                                               
Nikiski; board member for the  Alaska Cabaret, Hotel, Restaurant,                                                               
and Retailers  Association (CHARR);  and president for  the Kenai                                                               
Peninsula CHARR. He revealed that  he presented a petition to the                                                               
Legislature  with  over  700 signatures  and  remarked  that  the                                                               
bill's sponsor  indicated that the petition  was inconsequential.                                                               
He stated  that 99 percent  of the locations  noted in SB  1 will                                                               
ban smoking.  He conceded  that compelling  reasons exist  to ban                                                               
smoking  where  people enter  locations  that  deal with  travel,                                                               
healthcare, government  services, shopping, or  eating locations.                                                               
He asserted  that no compelling  reason exists  to go into  a bar                                                               
and  the act  is  simply a  choice that  deserves  the rights  of                                                               
patrons to be preserved as  the last public sanctuary that allows                                                               
smoking. He set  forth that SB 1 is disingenuous  and targets the                                                               
few bars  that still allow smoking.  He asked what harm  is being                                                               
done to society by allowing  the remaining bars to allow smoking.                                                               
He divulged  that 30  states have complete  bans, but  asked that                                                               
Alaska stay  in the  category where 20  states allow  smoking. He                                                               
asserted  that countless  testimony exists  from businesses  that                                                               
have closed or lost revenue due to  smoking bans. He said SB 1 is                                                               
tailor-made  to   destroy  his  business  and   other  businesses                                                               
throughout the state.  He commented that people may  not like the                                                               
way smokers carry on with their  lives or some of their behavior;                                                               
however,  smokers  as a  group  should  still  be allowed  to  be                                                               
captains  of  their  fate  and   masters  of  their  destiny.  He                                                               
summarized that smoking  is a matter of choice and  he asked that                                                               
the Legislature work towards a  reasonable exemption clause in SB                                                               
1.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:14:34 AM                                                                                                                   
SUSAN  SMALLEY, representing  herself,  Kenai,  Alaska, said  she                                                               
supports SB  1. She disclosed that  she is a cancer  survivor and                                                               
concurred  with  Dr.  Stewart's  testimony  on why  SB  1  is  so                                                               
critical. She asserted that all  Alaskans have a right to breathe                                                               
clean air in the workplace.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:16:21 AM                                                                                                                   
CHRYSTAL SCHOENROCK, representing  herself, Nikiski, Alaska, said                                                               
she opposes  SB 1. She disclosed  that she owns Forelands  Bar in                                                               
Nikiski. She  explained that  all of  her business's  patrons and                                                               
employees smoke and  those that walk into  her establishment that                                                               
do  not  smoke and  or  do  not drink  do  so  as a  choice.  She                                                               
suggested  that a  posting of  sign be  allowed where  people are                                                               
warned  that smoking  is allowed  and  entering is  at one's  own                                                               
risk. She  set forth  that SB  1 takes  away rights  and asserted                                                               
that  smokers  have to  have  a  place  to  smoke too.  She  said                                                               
supporters of  SB 1 do  not come into her  bar and she  asked why                                                               
her patrons and employees that smoke have to be punished.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:17:41 AM                                                                                                                   
DANIEL  LYNCH, representing  himself, Soldotna,  Alaska, said  he                                                               
opposes SB 1.  He set forth that tobacco is  legal for adults and                                                               
many believe in  a free market economy where  businesses have the                                                               
freedom to  choose how  they operate. He  pointed out  that Kenai                                                               
and Soldotna offer a choice  for owners, employees, and consumers                                                               
to choose between separate smoking  non-smoking bars. He remarked                                                               
that restaurant  employees that work  in a drive-thru  window are                                                               
exposed  to 100  times  more deadly  carcinogens from  automotive                                                               
exhaust than  from cigarettes or  e-cigarettes. He  asserted that                                                               
Alaska  does  not have  the  funds  to enforce  the  restrictions                                                               
imposed from SB 1 and added  that the state, boroughs, and cities                                                               
will  lose  tobacco  tax  revenue.   He  said  SB  1  will  cause                                                               
unintended consequences. He said there is  no reason for SB 1 and                                                               
pointed  out that  education and  habits are  annually decreasing                                                               
the  number  of  smokers.  He  summarized that  SB  1  is  not  a                                                               
workplace  safety issue,  but  a freedom  issue  and an  unfunded                                                               
mandate.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:21:02 AM                                                                                                                   
MICHAEL PATTERSON, representing himself,  Juneau, Alaska, said he                                                               
supports  SB 1.  He said  many people  have died  from secondhand                                                               
smoke and pointed out that no  one decides to become a secondhand                                                               
smoker.  He  set  forth  that  tobacco  products  being  sold  to                                                               
children is  a clear and  present danger.  He asserted that  SB 1                                                               
will positively  affect all Alaskans.  He asked  that legislators                                                               
not be swayed by businesses that  are in the tobacco business. He                                                               
summarized  that  he supports  SB  1  with  the inclusion  of  e-                                                               
cigarettes.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:25:09 AM                                                                                                                   
ANDREW MACEBO,  representing himself, Anchorage, Alaska,  said he                                                               
opposes  SB  1.  He  asserted that  e-cigarettes  should  not  be                                                               
included in the legislation because  vaping is not the same thing                                                               
as  combustion and  smoke. He  agreed that  areas should  be kept                                                               
clear of smoking from cigarettes,  but e-cigarettes should not be                                                               
included.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:26:22 AM                                                                                                                   
LARRY  HACKENMILLER,  representing  himself,  Fairbanks,  Alaska,                                                               
said  he opposes  SB 1.  He asserted  that the  bill's intent  to                                                               
protect the public is a hazard-con.  He remarked that he does not                                                               
understand  why big  government  wants to  protect public  rights                                                               
because the  people choose  not to or  don't have  the government                                                               
power to  do it  themselves in  their respective  communities. He                                                               
stated that the con is  representing secondhand smoke as a hazard                                                               
when every chemical associated with  secondhand smoke falls under                                                               
the permissible  exposure limits established by  the Occupational                                                               
Safety and  Health Administration (OSHA) using  the chemical list                                                               
provided  by the  US Environmental  Protection  Agency (EPA).  He                                                               
recommended that  signs be posted to  identify smoking facilities                                                               
to allow  the public  to exercise their  right to  smoke-free air                                                               
and  protect  themselves from  the  perceived  risks of  inhaling                                                               
secondhand smoke.  He added  that proper  signage would  the less                                                               
restrictive  means   of  advancing  the  state's   public  health                                                               
interest.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:30:02 AM                                                                                                                   
FLORA RODDY,  representing herself,  Fairbanks, Alaska,  said she                                                               
supports SB 1 with the inclusion of e-cigarettes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:30:24 AM                                                                                                                   
ERIN  SHEFFLETTE, representing  herself, Fairbanks,  Alaska, said                                                               
she supports SB 1 with the inclusion of e-cigarettes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:31:30 AM                                                                                                                   
ARIEL  HASSE, representing  herself,  Wasilla,  Alaska, said  she                                                               
supports  SB  1. She  asserted  that  SB  1 will  protect  future                                                               
generations from secondhand smoke.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:34:59 AM                                                                                                                   
LUCAS  ARTHUR, representing  himself,  Wasilla,  Alaska, said  he                                                               
supports SB 1 with the inclusion of e-cigarettes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:36:43 AM                                                                                                                   
KEA BEKKEDAHL,  representing herself,  Wasilla, Alaska,  said she                                                               
supports SB 1.  She asserted that allowing employees  to smoke at                                                               
work encourages an unhealthy lifestyle.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:38:14 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE announced that SB 1 will be held in committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:38:46 AM                                                                                                                   
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Stoltze  adjourned  the   Senate  State  Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee hearing at 10:38 a.m.                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB1 DOT-IASO 3-27-15.pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 1
SB1 Letters of Support for SSTA (3-31-15 to 4-8-15).pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 1
SB1 Letters of Opposition for SSTA (3-31-15 to 4-8-15).pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 1
SB83 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 83
SB83 Presentation to SSTA - Variable Retirement Plan 4-9-15.pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 83
28th Legislature - HB247 Fiscal Note-DOA-DRB-02-28-2014.pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 83
28th Legislature - HB247 Actuarial Fiscal Note-DOA-DRB-02-28-2014.pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 83
SB83 Support Document - Email Angie & Matt Fraize 4-10-15.pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 83
SB83 Support Document - Letter (HB90) Patrick O'Connor 4-9-15.pdf SSTA 4/9/2015 9:00:00 AM
HB 90
SB 83