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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
Bernice Troglio, Alaska Police Standards Council
Josie Hickel, Personnel Board
*+ SB 175 OFFICIAL STATE FIREARM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 175(STA) Out of Committee
*+ SJR 24 VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION POLICIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSJR 24(STA) Out of Committee
+= SJR 18 FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 18 Out of Committee
*+ SJR 19 NATIVE AMERICAN VETERANS' MONUMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 19 Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 11, 2014                                                                                         
                           9:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Fred Dyson, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Cathy Giessel, Vice Chair                                                                                               
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                        
          Bernice Troglia                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     Alaska State Personnel Board                                                                                           
          Josie Hickel                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 175                                                                                                             
"An Act designating the official state bolt-action rifle."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSB 175(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 24                                                                                                  
Relating to certain holiday practices at federal Veterans Health                                                                
Administration facilities.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSJR 24(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 19                                                                                                  
Supporting the American Indian Veterans Memorial Initiative to                                                                  
construct an Alaska Native, American Indian, and Native Hawaiian                                                                
veterans' monument in our nation's capital.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SJR 19 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 18                                                                                                  
Requesting the  United States  Congress to  call a  convention of                                                               
the  states to  propose  amendments to  the  Constitution of  the                                                               
United  States  that  impose fiscal  restraints  on  the  federal                                                               
government,  limit  the power  and  jurisdiction  of the  federal                                                               
government, and limit  the terms of office  of federal government                                                               
officials; and urging the legislatures  of the other 49 states to                                                               
request the  United States Congress  to call a convention  of the                                                               
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SJR 18 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 175                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OFFICIAL STATE FIREARM                                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) HUGGINS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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BILL: SJR 24                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION POLICIES                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) HUGGINS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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BILL: SJR 18                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) DYSON                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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BILL: SJR 19                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: NATIVE AMERICAN VETERANS' MONUMENT                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BERNICE TROGLIO, Council Member-Designee                                                                                        
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
Alaska Department of Public Safety                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:    Addressed   questions    regarding   her                                                             
appointment to the Alaska Police Standards Council.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOHANNA L. HICKEL, Board Member-Designee                                                                                        
Alaska State Personnel Board                                                                                                    
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:    Addressed   questions    regarding   her                                                             
appointment to the Alaska Workforce Investment Board.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ERIC HOLLEN, Staff                                                                                                              
Senator Huggins                                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SB 175.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS, representing himself                                                                                                
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 175.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ERIC HOLLEN, Staff                                                                                                              
Senator Huggins                                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SJR 24.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KALYSSA MAILE, Staff                                                                                                            
Senator Wielechowski                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SJR 19.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TYLER BELK, Staff                                                                                                               
Senator Dyson                                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SJR 18.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL FARRIS, Project Head                                                                                                    
Convention of States Project                                                                                                    
Austin, Texas                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SJR 18.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JENNIE GRIMWOOD, President                                                                                                      
Eagle Forum-Alaska                                                                                                              
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SJR 18.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DAVID EICHLER, representing himself                                                                                             
North Pole, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Announced being available for questions.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES KACPROWICZ, National Director                                                                                           
Citizen Initiatives                                                                                                             
Pine, North Carolina                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Opposes SJR 18.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS, Alaska Director                                                                                                     
Citizen Initiatives                                                                                                             
Palmer, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SJR 18 with amendments.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:02:26 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRED  DYSON  called  the  Senate  State  Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 9:02  a.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Giessel, Coghill,  Wielechowski, and  Chair                                                               
Dyson.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:02:51 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON reviewed the committee meeting's agenda.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                          
                     CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                  
                Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                             
                  Alaska State Personnel Board                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
9:03:35 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON announced that the committee will start with the                                                                    
confirmations in accordance with AS 39.05.080.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:04:25 AM                                                                                                                    
BERNICE   TROGLIO,   Council   Member-Designee,   Alaska   Police                                                               
Standards   Council,   Alaska   Department  of   Public   Safety,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, said  she  desires to  remain  on the  Alaska                                                               
Police Standards Council (APSC).  She explained her background as                                                               
a  counselor and  probation officer,  specifically  with the  sex                                                               
offender   population.   She    addressed   the   Department   of                                                               
Corrections'  Code of  Conduct and  noted that  her behavior  has                                                               
never been questioned since being  hired in 1999. She stated that                                                               
it is every law enforcement  officer's fundamental duty to adhere                                                               
to the highest  degree of ethical behavior and  APSC ensure that.                                                               
She said APSC's mission is  to produce and maintain professionals                                                               
capable of meeting law enforcement  standards of performance. She                                                               
set forth that she would be  most humbled to continue to serve on                                                               
APSC,  a council  that consistently  produces the  state's finest                                                               
law enforcement officers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:08:07 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON asked if Ms. Troglio lived in Anchorage.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. TROGLIO answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  remarked  that  what   APSC  does  is  inordinately                                                               
important.  He  noted that  he  used  to  boast that  Alaska  had                                                               
virtually no  pattern of "dirty" cops,  unnecessary violence, and                                                               
unethical behavior; he said he is no longer able to say that.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He asked  Ms. Troglio to  explain the  case pattern that  she has                                                               
seen come before APSC.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. TROGLIO  replied that  the cases  that have  involved serious                                                               
unethical  behavior.  She  explained   that  there  has  been  no                                                               
pattern,  but the  cases  have been  serious  and warrant  APSC's                                                               
attention for review.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON   added  that  APSC   can  remove   law  enforcement                                                               
certification  even  though there  are  no  criminal charges.  He                                                               
asserted  that there  is a  deep pattern  in American  culture of                                                               
"Whatever you do,  you don't rat out your buddies."  He set forth                                                               
that the code of silence  is probably stronger amongst males than                                                               
females.  He  noted  a  case  in  Anchorage  where  he  found  it                                                               
difficult to believe  that fellow officers did not  know what was                                                               
going on and somebody should have said something over the years.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:11:06 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. TROGLIO  recalled the  case that  Chair Dyson  made reference                                                               
to. She said  every law enforcement officer takes  a serious oath                                                               
and their actions  should make a community feel  safe. She stated                                                               
that  it is  sad when  an officer  steps out  of bounds.  She set                                                               
forth that cases  that come before APSC are  taken very seriously                                                               
because APSC is dealing with an individual's livelihood.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  noted the challenges  of dealing with  sex offenders                                                               
and welcomed a future conversation  to address rehabilitation. He                                                               
thanked  Ms. Troglio  for what  she has  done professionally  and                                                               
with APSC.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:14:53 AM                                                                                                                    
JOHANNA L. HICKEL, Board  Member-Designee, Alaska State Personnel                                                               
Board,   Personnel    and   Labor   Relations,    Department   of                                                               
Administration Anchorage, Alaska, revealed  that she has 24 years                                                               
of experience  in human resources  and noted her  educational and                                                               
certification  background. She  said  she is  currently the  Vice                                                               
President of  Human Resources and  Administration for  the Pebble                                                               
Partnership.  She specified  that she  is considered  as a  human                                                               
resource "generalist,"  a term that  means she has worked  in all                                                               
areas  of  human  resources.  She   noted  her  background  as  a                                                               
volunteer, a  practice that she  believes is very important  as a                                                               
citizen  and professional.  She set  forth  that it  would be  an                                                               
honor to serve and provide her talents to AWIB.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:18:02 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL thanked  Ms. Hickel  and Ms.  Troglio for  their                                                               
willingness to volunteer.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON asked  Ms.  Hickel what  legislators  could do  that                                                               
would be helpful for AWIB.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. HICKEL replied that AWIB  needs more input from employers and                                                               
have a better process for  making sure information is provided to                                                               
the legislators to make effective decisions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON said  he was  impressed with  Ms. Troglio's  and Ms.                                                               
Hickel's experience and training.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:21:29 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON read the following statement:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     In accordance with Article 3,  Section 25 of the Alaska                                                                    
     Constitution,   AS   39.05.080,   the   State   Affairs                                                                    
     Committee   reviewed  the   following  and   recommends                                                                    
     appointments  be forwarded  to  the  Joint Session  for                                                                    
     consideration:  Personnel Board,  Josie Hickel;  Alaska                                                                    
     Police  Standards Council,  Bernice Troglio.  This does                                                                    
     not reflect  the intent of  any of the members  to vote                                                                    
     for  or  against  the confirmation  of  the  individual                                                                    
     during further sessions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:21:58 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON asked if the  committee had a problem with forwarding                                                               
the aforementioned names. [No objection was noted.]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                 SB 175-OFFICIAL STATE FIREARM                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:22:17 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON announced the consideration of SB 175.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:22:47 AM                                                                                                                    
ERIC HOLLEN,  Staff, Senator  Huggins, Alaska  State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  requested that the  Legislature consider  SB 175                                                               
and read a sponsor statement as follows:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     SB 175  is an act  designating the official  state Bolt                                                                    
     Action  Rifle to  be the  Winchester Pre-1964  Model 70                                                                    
     and its  17 designated calibers. The  Pre-1964 Model 70                                                                    
     was considered  the rifleman's rifle by  Jack O'Connor,                                                                    
     famous  outdoorsmen,  author,  and writer  for  Outdoor                                                                    
     Life  Magazine.  One interesting  note,  a  few of  the                                                                    
     calibers for the Pre-64 was  the .338 Winchester Magnum                                                                    
     and  the   .357  H&H  Magnum  which   were  called  the                                                                    
     "Alaskan." Due to the variations  and calibers from the                                                                    
     .22 Hornet  to .458  Winchester Magnum,  the Winchester                                                                    
     Pre-64 Model  70 is very popular  with outdoorsmen here                                                                    
     in Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON noted  that Winchester ownership changed  in 1964 and                                                               
that was  the reason  the date was  important. He  explained that                                                               
there  was  the perception  that  Winchester's  quality may  have                                                               
deteriorated under  subsequent owners.  He asked  when production                                                               
started on the Winchester Model 70.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:24:21 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HOLLEN replied  that Winchester  started  production in  the                                                               
1930s.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI specified that production started in 1936.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked if  the .300 Winchester  Magnum was  listed on                                                               
the calibers that were available before 1964.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOLLEN explained  that the  .300 may  have fallen  under the                                                               
"wildcat" cartridge category.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  asked  for  Mr.  Hollen to  verify  that  the  .300                                                               
Winchester Magnum is on the list  of Pre-64 calibers and the bill                                                               
can be amended in the House.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  noted  that  there is  a  .300  Winchester                                                               
Magnum.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:26:05 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DYSON  offered  a  conceptual   amendment  that  the  .300                                                               
Winchester Magnum be  included to the list. He  specified that on                                                               
line  15, just  after "300  H&H Magnum."  He asked  if there  was                                                               
objection to the amendment. [No objection noted.]                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked  if there would be any  special labeling or                                                               
special commemoration  if the Winchester Model  70 was designated                                                               
as the state's bolt action rifle.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOLLEN  replied that the  language in  the bill is  just that                                                               
the Winchester Model 70 is  recognized as the state's bolt action                                                               
rifle.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked to  clarify that  the Winchester  Model 70                                                               
will go  on the list  of state  recognized things like  the state                                                               
flower.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOLLEN answered yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked if  the Winchester Model  70 be  posted as                                                               
pre-1964.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOLLEN answered yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON noted  that Mr. Hollen is a  very competitive shooter                                                               
and is involved in national and international competition.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOLLEN replied  that he was able to represent  his country in                                                               
London for  the 2012  Paralympics. He specified  that he  shot on                                                               
the  U.S.  Team as  an  international  pistol competitor  for  10                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON thanked Mr. Hollen for his service.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:29:08 AM                                                                                                                    
MIKE  COONS,  representing  himself,   Palmer,  Alaska,  said  he                                                               
supports SB 175.  He stated that the Pre-64  Winchester Model 70,                                                               
.30-06 should  have been noted  in SB  175 as the  most versatile                                                               
model and caliber that has ever been made.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL moved  to report SB 175,  labeled 28-LS1357\N, as                                                               
amended  from  committee   with  individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached fiscal zero note.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:45 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DYSON announced  that  without  objection, [CSSB  175(STA)                                                               
moved out of the Senate State Affairs Standing Committee.]                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:50 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON declared that the committee will stand at ease.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         SJR 24-VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION POLICIES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:32:06 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON announced the consideration of SJR 24.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:32:28 AM                                                                                                                    
ERIC HOLLEN,  Staff, Senator  Huggins, Alaska  State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, presented an overview of SJR 24 as follows:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I am here today to  request legislators to consider SJR                                                                    
     24,  requesting   Veterans  Affairs  to   change  their                                                                    
     policies  with regard  to  First  Amendment rights  and                                                                    
     freedom  of  religion  specifically. SJR  24  basically                                                                    
     came to  my attention  mid-December of 2013.  There was                                                                    
     an  issue regarding  veterans  not receiving  Christmas                                                                    
     cards  based on  language on  the front  of the  cards,                                                                    
     specifically "Merry Christmas" or  "God bless you;" the                                                                    
     cards  that have  this language  were not  delivered to                                                                    
     the  veterans.  Dozens  of students  who  attend  Grace                                                                    
     Academy  in  Prosper,  Texas didn't  get  a  chance  to                                                                    
     deliver their cards that they  had made by hand for the                                                                    
     local veterans  hospital in Dallas. The  cards were the                                                                    
     idea  of  Susan  Chapman,  the math  teacher  at  Grace                                                                    
     Academy;  she is  married to  a veteran  and volunteers                                                                    
     with   the   American   Legion  and   other   veterans'                                                                    
     organizations.   Specifically  with   regard  to   Miss                                                                    
     Chapman's  issue,   a  Veteran   Administration's  (VA)                                                                    
     employee told  her that her  students' cards  would not                                                                    
     be  accepted based  on the  language's religious  tone,                                                                    
     proclaiming "Merry  Christmas" or  the cards  that said                                                                    
     "God Bless You."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOLLEN  continued  to  point out  VA  hospital  events  that                                                               
ignored the First Amendment and  did not allow Christmas caroling                                                               
and gifts. He summarized that he is requesting the following:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     That the Alaska  State Legislature respectively request                                                                    
     the  United  State  Secretary of  Veterans  Affairs  to                                                                    
     reconsider  the policies  that are  currently in  place                                                                    
     that  violate the  rights of  veterans at  VA hospitals                                                                    
     nationally  to  ensure  our  honored  veterans  receive                                                                    
     timely holiday gifts and cards.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   DYSON   noted   his   frustration   with   the   Veterans                                                               
Administration's  policy towards  Christmas cards  and gifts.  He                                                               
asked Mr. Hollen if he had found any copies of the VA's policy.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:35:54 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HOLLEN  answered yes.  He  explained  that the  VA's  policy                                                               
language can  be interpreted on  a case  by case basis.  He noted                                                               
that  handling  on  a  case  by  case  basis  led  to  only  four                                                               
opportunities where  Christmas cards  and gifts  were mishandled.                                                               
He  pointed  out  that  the   aforementioned  incidents  had  not                                                               
occurred  in  Alaska.  He  explained  that  the  VA's  policy  is                                                               
interpreted by the  person in charge. He noted  that the backlash                                                               
was significant  and the previously mentioned  incidents will not                                                               
be a  major issue  again due  to the  backlash across  the United                                                               
States.  He  asserted  that  people  were  not  very  happy  that                                                               
veterans did not  get their cards, especially  after fighting for                                                               
their country.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL stated that he  could understand where the VA may                                                               
have problems if they were  required to send out Christmas cards,                                                               
but to forbid other people  from getting Christmas cards flies in                                                               
the  face  of  the  Constitution. He  added  that  regardless  of                                                               
whether an individual is a Christian or  not, to send a card to a                                                               
veteran  and have  it censored  by the  VA is  unconscionable. He                                                               
asked if the  request from the Legislature to hear  back from the                                                               
United State Secretary  of Veterans Affairs will  have to specify                                                               
the means in which the VA replies.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:38:32 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. HOLLEN answered no.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL recommended that language  in SJR 24 specifies to                                                               
either the "presiding officer" or to "each seated legislator."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  announced that the  Chair is open to  a conceptual                                                               
amendment. He suspected  that if the reply went  to the presiding                                                               
officer that they would distribute it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  noted being under  some presiding  officers that                                                               
did not distribute information.  He suggested "Each seated Alaska                                                               
State Legislator" be inserted.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  suggested  that  "Provide each  member  of  the                                                               
Alaska State Legislature with."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  announced  that  she so  moved  the  conceptual                                                               
amendment to  include "Provide  each member  of the  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature with."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL   objected  to   review  where   the  conceptual                                                               
amendment goes in SJR 24.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  explained that line  23, "Secretary  of Veterans                                                               
Affairs  'provide each  member of  the  Alaska State  Legislature                                                               
with' copies."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   COGHILL  agreed   with   Senator  Giessel's   suggested                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  asked if  there  was  objection to  the  conceptual                                                               
amendment. He announced that seeing  no objection, the conceptual                                                               
amendment is accepted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  moved to report  SJR 24, labeled  28-LS1412\A as                                                               
amended   with  zero   fiscal   note   and  attached   individual                                                               
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:40:11 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON  asked if there  was an objection. He  announced that                                                               
seeing  no objection,  CSSJR  24(STA) passes  out  of the  Senate                                                               
State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:40:17 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON declared that the committee will stand at ease.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           SJR 19-NATIVE AMERICAN VETERANS' MONUMENT                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:41:18 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON called the committee  back to order and announced the                                                               
consideration of SJR 19.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:41:26 AM                                                                                                                    
KALYSSA   MAILE,  Staff,   Senator  Wielechowski,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, said  SJR 19 supports  the American                                                               
Indian  Veterans' Memorial  Initiative  (AIVMI)  and provided  an                                                               
overview as follows:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AIVMI  is an  effort to  secure formal  recognition for                                                                    
     the generations  of Alaska  Native and  Native American                                                                    
     military veterans  on the National Mall  in Washington,                                                                    
     D.C.  In   1994,  Congress  first  passed   the  Native                                                                    
     American   Veterans'    Memorial   Establishment   Act,                                                                    
     allowing for the  memorial to be built  in our nation's                                                                    
     capital. Since that time, support  for the monument has                                                                    
     been  growing,  prominent  native and  veterans  groups                                                                    
     have passed  resolutions in support and  in December of                                                                    
     2013, Congress unanimously  passed HR 2135, reaffirming                                                                    
     their support  of this. It should  be acknowledged that                                                                    
     the Three  Servicemen's Statue on the  Vietnam Memorial                                                                    
     goes  a long  way to  honor the  diversity of  American                                                                    
     Veterans,  yet   none  of   the  three   servicemen  is                                                                    
     representative  of Native  American people,  and having                                                                    
     served   in   every   military   conflict   since   the                                                                    
     Revolutionary War, American  Indians have established a                                                                    
     long and distinguished legacy  of military service. SJR                                                                    
     19 affirms  the Alaska  State Legislature's  support of                                                                    
     Alaska   native  and   Native  American   veterans  and                                                                    
     recognizes their great sacrifices for our country.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI noted that  there are resolutions in support                                                               
of AIVMI from the Vietnam  Veterans of America, National Congress                                                               
of American Indians, and Alaska Federation of Natives.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL asked  if AIVMI's  monument  placement has  been                                                               
selected from a congressional act.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:43:16 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  answered no.  He explained that  the Native                                                               
Americans have  been trying to place  a memorial on the  Mall for                                                               
decades.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MAILE specified  that there are two locations  that have been                                                               
considered: one  is on  the Vietnam  Veterans' Memorial  site and                                                               
the  other is  outside of  the  National Museum  of the  American                                                               
Indian.  She   stated  that  two   sites  previously   noted  are                                                               
acceptable to AIVMI,  which is spearheaded by  the Seminole Tribe                                                               
out of Florida.  She pointed out that SJR 19  simply supports the                                                               
Memorial Initiative  idea and supports Alaska's  native veterans.                                                               
She added that AIVMI is not funded by Congress.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked if there  is a need for  relinquishment of                                                               
land and  would Congress have to  act. He inquired if  the Alaska                                                               
Legislature needs  to push for  the land relinquishment  from the                                                               
District of Columbia.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.   MAILE   answered   that   Congress   addressed   the   land                                                               
relinquishment in 1994 and 2013.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI remarked  that Congress just needs  to do it                                                               
and  SJR 19  pushes  for the  project to  commence.  He said  the                                                               
initiative   is  a   nationwide  effort   to  get   the  memorial                                                               
constructed.  He noted  that he  has spoken  with representatives                                                               
from AIVMI at a recent  national conference that requested Alaska                                                               
to pass a resolution.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL summarized  that SJR 19 will  add Alaska's "Voice                                                               
to the  chorus." He said  according to  SJR 19, Alaska  has 5,500                                                               
natives that  have served  and the Legislature  has to  speak for                                                               
them in many ways.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:45:14 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DYSON  remarked  that   Alaska's  aboriginal  people  have                                                               
volunteered and  served in the  highest percentage of  anybody in                                                               
North  America. He  set forth  that the  patriotism exhibited  by                                                               
Alaska Natives impresses  him and he hopes  that legislators will                                                               
work hard to get a suitable recognition of a monument in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL noted  that SJR  19 does  not robustly  call out                                                               
Alaska's native  veterans. She  stated that it  would be  nice to                                                               
have  a line  in SJR  19 that  calls out  the Alaska  Territorial                                                               
Guard. She  noted having the honor  to hear a Navajo  Code Talker                                                               
speak at a recent conference.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON mentioned his passion  for history and noted that the                                                               
Japanese in World War II  were absolutely befuddled by the Navajo                                                               
Code Talkers.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL moved to report SJR 19, labeled 28-LS1245\N with                                                                
zero fiscal note and attached individual recommendations.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:47:34 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON announced that seeing no objection, SJR 19 passes                                                                   
out of the Senate State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:47:41 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON declared that the committee will stand at ease.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
            SJR 18-FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:48:40 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON announced the consideration of SJR 18.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:49:39 AM                                                                                                                    
TYLER  BELK,  Staff,  Senator Dyson,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  stated that Michael  Farris will  testify before                                                               
the committee. He  noted that Mr. Farris is the  Project Head for                                                               
the Convention of States (COS) Project.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:50:22 AM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL FARRIS, Project Head, Convention of States (COS)                                                                        
Project, Austin, Texas, explained his background as follows:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     I am  a constitutional attorney.  I have argued  in the                                                                    
     U.S.  Supreme  Court and  the  appellate  courts of  13                                                                    
     states, including  an Article  V case that  I litigated                                                                    
     back in  late 1970s  that spilled  over into  the early                                                                    
     1980s  concerning   Equal  Rights  Amendment   and  the                                                                    
     extension   of  time   that  Congress   gave  to   that                                                                    
     amendment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. FARRIS explained his COS involvement as follows:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     I began  being involved  in this  project because  I am                                                                    
     convinced  that Washington,  D.C.  is  broken and  will                                                                    
     never restrain its  own power, the debt is  the "tip of                                                                    
     the  iceberg."  Federal spending,  federal  regulation,                                                                    
     the  federal mandates  that come  against the  states I                                                                    
     believe  violate  the   principals  of  self-government                                                                    
     where the state legislators  are ordered to the bidding                                                                    
     of   Congress  other   than   the   bidding  of   their                                                                    
     constituents  when  federal  money is  dangled  out  in                                                                    
     front of you  in a coercive fashion.  Presidents of all                                                                    
     parties  are legislating  through executive  orders and                                                                    
     through regulatory  actions that are not  passed in the                                                                    
     appropriate  fashion under  the  Constitution. I  think                                                                    
     that the low  ranking of the opinion  polls of Congress                                                                    
     being  in  single  digits  these   days  is  a  general                                                                    
     assessment  of  the  American public  that  Washington,                                                                    
     D.C.  is broken  and something  needs to  be done.  The                                                                    
     Founders gave  us that something  in Article  V. George                                                                    
     Mason  insisted that  there would  be a  day where  the                                                                    
     federal government  would overstep its bounds  and when                                                                    
     that happened, there needed to  be a way for the states                                                                    
     to  unilaterally  purpose  amendments that  the  states                                                                    
     would then ratify  to curtail the power  of the federal                                                                    
     government  and  that  is what  this  resolution  does.                                                                    
     There  are other  Article V  ideas out  there that  are                                                                    
     good  ideas, I  don't  think they  go  far enough.  The                                                                    
     balance  budget  amendment is  a  good  idea, but  that                                                                    
     controls  simply   the  debt-mechanism,  it   does  not                                                                    
     control  spending,  it does  not  control  many of  the                                                                    
     other things  that I have  just addressed. If  we think                                                                    
     that freedom  is going to survive  without stopping the                                                                    
     structural problems in Washington  D.C., I think we are                                                                    
     guessing and  hoping for  our future in  a way  that is                                                                    
     not justified.  I think we  really need to  ensure that                                                                    
     we  preserve  the freedom  of  this  country by  taking                                                                    
     decisive  action for  the  states  to effectively  take                                                                    
     away  the misuse  of power  for the  federal government                                                                    
     and return it to the people and to the states.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:53:17 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. FARRIS addressed arguments against the COS as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Most of the  arguments that I have  seen raised against                                                                    
     COS  concern  the possibility  that  there  would be  a                                                                    
     convention that  would disobey  the call  and go  on to                                                                    
     consider  other matters.  There are  so many  check and                                                                    
     balances  into  the  system that  make  that,  frankly,                                                                    
     impossible  if  we  have  any   kind  of  semblance  of                                                                    
     political reality  in our assessments; because,  at the                                                                    
     end of  the day, 38  state legislatures have  to ratify                                                                    
     anything that comes out of a convention.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     There  are three  steps of  the process,  34 states  by                                                                    
     simple majority  in both houses  of the states  have to                                                                    
     file  an application  on the  same topic.  Then at  the                                                                    
     convention  itself,   it  is   one-state-one-vote.  The                                                                    
     legislators  appoint the  delegates  to the  convention                                                                    
     and  26  states  would  have  to  approve  the  precise                                                                    
     language on  any of the  topics that are  germane under                                                                    
     the  applications that  the states  have written.  Then                                                                    
     the language of the  proposed amendments that come out,                                                                    
     if 6 amendments come out,  just like the Bill of Rights                                                                    
     were  sent out  as a  package of  12 and  only 10  were                                                                    
     ratified  by 1791,  the states  could pick  1-6 of  the                                                                    
     amendments to  ratify, but 38 state  legislatures, by a                                                                    
     simple majority  vote in both  houses, would  then have                                                                    
     to ratify any of the  amendments that come forward. So,                                                                    
     a lot of checks and balances,  a lot of safety in here,                                                                    
     but we've  got to  get started.  Georgia was  the first                                                                    
     state to  approve this resolution, last  week we've had                                                                    
     the Alabama  House approve it,  and we are moving  in a                                                                    
     handful of  other states,  we expect  a good  number of                                                                    
     states next legislative session.  My guess is that four                                                                    
     or  five states,  and hopefully  one of  those will  be                                                                    
     Alaska, will  approve it  in this  legislative session.                                                                    
     We are  hoping that that  this will  be done in  two or                                                                    
     three legislative terms. `                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:55:20 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON noted  that Mr. Farris mentioned that  some number of                                                               
states  have to  make  application.  He asked  if  SJR  18 is  an                                                               
application.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FARRIS  answered yes. He  stated that  SJR 18 is  the correct                                                               
legislative-vehicle to make the application.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   DYSON  recalled   that  over   20  years   ago,  Alaska's                                                               
legislature  did   pass  something  calling  for   an  Article  V                                                               
Convention.  He asked  what the  time limit  was for  the state's                                                               
applications.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FARRIS  answered that  there is  not a  time limit.  He noted                                                               
that one  of the  Bill of  Rights proposed  in 1789  was actually                                                               
ratified  in the  1990s. He  pointed out  that an  application is                                                               
good  in perpetuity  unless a  legislature puts  a time  limit or                                                               
rescinds  their application.  He explained  that there  have been                                                               
over  400 applications  in the  history of  the republic  from 49                                                               
states. There has never been a  COS because there have never been                                                               
two  thirds  of the  states  agreeing  on  a subject  matter.  He                                                               
asserted that  either COS will be  done in the next  few years or                                                               
it is not going to happen.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:57:07 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  stated that  he could live  with SJR  18 if                                                               
limitations were  not set on the  resolution and a broad  COS was                                                               
called. He remarked  that he did not believe 38  states are going                                                               
to agree.  He asserted that COS  should not be limited.  He asked                                                               
that  a resolution  be passed  that said  "Requesting the  United                                                               
States Congress to  call a Convention of States  for the purposes                                                               
of  making  changes to  the  Constitution."  He asserted  that  a                                                               
broader resolution would get more states onboard.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FARRIS replied  that  Senator  Wielechowski's suggestion  is                                                               
theoretically possible,  but 34  states would  have to  purpose a                                                               
general amending  convention. He  explained that there  are three                                                               
ways COS can be purposed as follows:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        1. General Convention.                                                                                                  
        2. Topical Convention: the same as what the                                                                             
          Convention of States Project is proposing.                                                                            
        3. Amendment Convention: focuses on a particular                                                                        
          amendment like a balanced budget.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He asserted that  there is not the political will  to get to                                                                    
4 states, let  alone 38 states for a  general convention. He                                                                    
said there is  a lot of angst in the  country about changing                                                                    
the Bill of  Rights and provisions. He set  forth that there                                                                    
should  be  one  convention  on  a  limited  topic  so  that                                                                    
everyone  can   see  that  the   procedures  are   safe  and                                                                    
confidence  is built  in  the process.  He  stated that  the                                                                    
chances of  anybody doing  a wide  open COS  are essentially                                                                    
zero.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:00:53 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI remarked that the  reason the COS Project is                                                               
running into  problems was due  to the  need for a  three quarter                                                               
vote. He  set forth  that a broader  call forces  compromises. He                                                               
said  he  would like  to  see  a provision  overturning  Citizens                                                               
United due  to campaign  contributions being  out of  control and                                                               
special interest  groups being out  of control. He noted  that he                                                               
will  propose amendments  on the  Senate Floor  that are  against                                                               
Citizens  United and  for equal  rights for  women. He  suggested                                                               
that narrowing COS makes it more difficult for states to agree.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. FARRIS  answered that  he understands  Senator Wielechowski's                                                               
point of  view, but noted that  if Alaska does something  that is                                                               
idiosyncratic in  character by  writing up  its own  things, then                                                               
Alaska has  a moral obligation to  go out and organize  a process                                                               
to build the  same kind of momentum in 34  states. He pointed out                                                               
that  the current  process for  COS requires  two thirds  and not                                                               
three fourths.  He specified that  three fourths is  required for                                                               
ratification.  He   said  the  amendments   Senator  Wielechowski                                                               
suggested  would be  viewed  as  effectively a  way  to kill  the                                                               
process because  there is no  constituency to build  the approach                                                               
and no one is out organizing  for the approach. He set forth that                                                               
Alaska would effectively pass a  resolution that has no force and                                                               
effect, the end result will do  no one any good if amendments are                                                               
added. He  explained that the intent  is to do something  good by                                                               
trying  to  stop  the  abuse  of power  in  Washington,  D.C.  He                                                               
conceded that  maybe everything cannot  be solved in  the initial                                                               
time  around for  COS, but  some things  can be  solved. He  said                                                               
something has to be done about debt, spending, and regulation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  noted that one  of the  big pushbacks will  often be                                                               
seen is on the concept of a "Runaway COS."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:03:58 AM                                                                                                                   
JENNIE GRIMWOOD, President,  Eagle Forum-Alaska, Cordova, Alaska,                                                               
stated that Eagle  Forum opposes SJR 18. She noted  that SJR 18's                                                               
objectives are on  balanced budgets and term  limits. She pointed                                                               
out  that other  groups are  proposing amendments  and the  Eagle                                                               
Forum questioned  whether the Constitution  should be  opened for                                                               
uncertain change  for COS. She  pointed out that  the possibility                                                               
for  bigger  states  to  control COS.  She  summarized  that  any                                                               
restrictions set on the delegates  in advance may violate Article                                                               
V and claims that COS can be controlled are misleading.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:06:55 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR COGHILL noted  his support for SJR 18 due  to the need to                                                               
challenge the federal government. He  asked if the imposed checks                                                               
and balances  on COS are  sufficient to keep the  convention from                                                               
throwing off the Constitution.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIMWOOD  answered that no  one knows  because a COS  has not                                                               
been done since the 1700s.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  stated that  he is less  fearful, but  noted his                                                               
respect for  the Eagle Forum. He  set forth that the  lengthy COS                                                               
process has  a steep hill  to climb  and some pretty  good checks                                                               
are in place.  He asked the Eagle Forum to  reconsider the checks                                                               
that have been put into place.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:09:13 AM                                                                                                                   
DAVID EICHLER,  representing himself, North Pole,  Alaska, stated                                                               
that he  did not agree  with the  Eagle Forum's position  and was                                                               
available for questions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:10:17 AM                                                                                                                   
CHARLES  KACPROWICZ,  National   Director,  Citizen  Initiatives,                                                               
Pine,  North  Carolina,  stated   that  his  organization  is  an                                                               
advocate for  Article V, single  issue amendment  conventions. He                                                               
noted  that Citizen  Initiatives is  working on  balanced budget,                                                               
sovereignty and state rights, and  the countermand amendments. He                                                               
noted  that he  has been  involved in  the battle  for Article  V                                                               
amendments  for  41  years.  He  addressed  the  balanced  budget                                                               
amendment  and  noted that  23  states  continue to  have  active                                                               
applications. He  claimed that  the climb  for a  balanced budget                                                               
amendment continues  to be uphill  due to misinformation.  He set                                                               
forth that  state delegates sent  to COS will act  as ambassadors                                                               
and not  free agents with  license to  do anything they  want. He                                                               
explained that Citizen Initiatives is  opposed to the COS Project                                                               
call for  COS because  it is  too broad with  two or  three broad                                                               
sweeping  topics.  He   set  forth  that  Article  V   is  not  a                                                               
Constitutional Convention and its  purpose is restrictive for the                                                               
purpose  of   proposing  amendments.   He  asserted   that  state                                                               
legislatures, under  Article V, are  sovereign bodies and  are in                                                               
charge  as the  forth rank  of government.  He asserted  that the                                                               
state legislatures are the key to seeing the nation turn around.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:22:18 AM                                                                                                                   
MIKE  COONS, Director-Alaska,  Citizen  Initiatives, Palmer,  AK,                                                               
said  he  supports the  proper  use  of  Article  V in  the  U.S.                                                               
Constitution. He set forth that SJR  18 is on track, but has many                                                               
issues. He posed questions should SJR 18 pass as follows:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        1. Who is going to write the amendments that come                                                                       
          from the subject topics?                                                                                              
        2. Will those amendments be written by the                                                                              
          Legislature prior to COS?                                                                                             
        3. Who is the deliberative body, the Legislature or                                                                     
          delegates?                                                                                                            
        4. Will there be written instructions that make a                                                                       
          convention a republican convention with one-                                                                          
          state-one-vote?                                                                                                       
       5. Will the delegates be bound to the Legislature?                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He noted  that previous calls  in the nation's  history have                                                                    
been single  issue amendments. He asserted  that issues must                                                                    
be  resolved  prior  to  passing SJR  18.  He  said  Citizen                                                                    
Initiatives has calls for  specific, single issue amendments                                                                    
that  the  Legislature  would pre-approve  with  a  delegate                                                                    
resolution that would  ensure one-state-one-vote, making COS                                                                    
safe,   predictable,  and   ultimately   providing  for   an                                                                    
excellent chance of ratification.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:25:39 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR DYSON announced that public hearing is closed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  moved to report  from committee SJR  18, labeled                                                               
28-LS1284\N    with    zero    fiscal   note    and    individual                                                               
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked if there was objection.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI stated that he  was not going to object, but                                                               
noted that he may run some amendments on the Senate Floor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  explained that  SJR 18 was  the exact  parallel with                                                               
the resolution that  was going through the House.  He stated that                                                               
his intention  was to only  begin the  process and add  Alaska to                                                               
the queue of  the states that were calling for  COS. He set forth                                                               
that  the  information that  he  has  seen  is  that there  is  a                                                               
significant  process  where the  subject  of  the call  will  get                                                               
narrowed down to something of which  there will be 34 states with                                                               
a careful delineation of what is  the scope of COS with limits on                                                               
selection, responsibilities, and remedies for delegates.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:27:39 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR DYSON announced that seeing  no objection, SJR 18 is passed                                                               
from the Senate State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:28:59 AM                                                                                                                   
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Dyson   adjourned  the   Senate  State   Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee hearing at 10:28 AM.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Resume - Troglio.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
Resume - Hickel.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
Senate Bill 175.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 175
SB175-DOA-COM-03-07-14.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 175
SJR 24.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
SJR 24
SJR 24 - Fiscal Note - SSTA.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
SJR 24
SJR 18 - Legislation.pdf SSTA 2/27/2014 9:00:00 AM
SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
SJR 18
SJR 18 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 2/27/2014 9:00:00 AM
SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
SJR 18
SJR 18 - Supporting Documents - Details of the Case for Convention of the States.pdf SSTA 2/27/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 18 - Supporting Documents - List of States with Current COS Movement Resolutions.pdf SSTA 2/27/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 18 - Supporting Documents - State Application and Convention Process Step by Step.pdf SSTA 2/27/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 18 - Supporting Documents - Timeline of State Article V Applications.pdf SSTA 2/27/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 18 - Supporting Documents - What Types of Amendements Possible Under Proposed Topic.pdf SSTA 2/27/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 18 - Fiscal Note (S) State Affairs.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 19 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 19 - Legislation - Version 28-LS1245N.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 19 - Fiscal Note - SSTA.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 19 - Supporting Document - AFN Resolution.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 19 - Supporting Document - NCAI Resolution.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 19 - Supporting Document - VVA Resolution.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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WrittenTestimonyMills_SJR18_SSTA_2-27-14.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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SJR 18 - Supporting Documents - Letter William Justice.pdf SSTA 3/11/2014 9:00:00 AM
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