Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

05/10/2007 09:00 AM STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 171 JUDICIAL RETENTION CANDIDACY WITHDRAWAL TELECONFERENCED
<Above Item Removed from Agenda>
+ SB 151 NEW DRIVER'S LIC. /PERMIT:CPR/ FIRST AID TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 151(HES) Out of Committee
+= HB 132 AGRICULTURE DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 132 Out of Committee
+ HB 159 STILLBIRTH CERTIFICATE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 159(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 75 DRIVERS LICENSE: ALCOHOL AWARENESS/MINOR TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 75(STA) Out of Committee
+ HB 184 MOTOR VEHICLES-LICENSE/INSURANCE/IMPOUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 184(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                          May 10, 2007                                                                                          
                           9:04 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lesil McGuire, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Con Bunde                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 171                                                                                                             
"An  Act  relating  to  the  withdrawal of  a  candidate  from  a                                                               
judicial   retention  election   and  the   removal  of   such  a                                                               
candidate's name from the general  election ballot; and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
     REMOVED FROM AGENDA                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 151                                                                                                             
"An Act  relating to cardiopulmonary resuscitation  and first aid                                                               
classes  for   initial  applicants  for  driver's   licenses  and                                                               
instruction permits."                                                                                                           
     MOVED CSSB 151(HES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 132                                                                                                              
"An  Act  designating   the  first  Tuesday  of   May  as  Alaska                                                               
Agriculture Day."                                                                                                               
     MOVED HB 132 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 159(JUD)                                                                                                  
"An  Act relating  to  the  issuance of  a  certificate of  birth                                                               
resulting in a stillbirth."                                                                                                     
     MOVED CSHB 159(JUD) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 75(STA)                                                                                                   
"An  Act  relating to  driver's  licenses  and alcohol  awareness                                                               
testing."                                                                                                                       
     MOVED CSHB 75(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 184(FIN)                                                                                                  
"An Act relating to a commemorative troops license plate; and                                                                   
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
     Moved SCS CSHB 184(STA) Out of Committee                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 151                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: NEW DRIVER'S LIC. /PERMIT:CPR/ FIRST AID                                                                           
SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) ELLIS BY REQUEST                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
04/02/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/02/07       (S)       HES, STA                                                                                               
05/07/07       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
05/07/07       (S)       Moved CSSB 151(HES) Out of Committee                                                                   
05/07/07       (S)       MINUTE(HES)                                                                                            
05/08/07       (S)       HES RPT CS  3DP 1NR   NEW TITLE                                                                        
05/08/07       (S)       DP: DAVIS, ELTON, THOMAS                                                                               
05/08/07       (S)       NR: DYSON                                                                                              
05/10/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 132                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: AGRICULTURE DAY                                                                                                    
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) GATTO                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/14/07       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/14/07       (H)       EDT, RES                                                                                               
03/27/07       (H)       EDT AT 5:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/27/07       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
03/27/07       (H)       MINUTE(EDT)                                                                                            
03/28/07       (H)       EDT RPT 5DP                                                                                            
03/28/07       (H)       DP: DOLL, LYNN, GATTO, JOHANSEN, NEUMAN                                                                
04/02/07       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/02/07       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
04/04/07       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/04/07       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
04/04/07       (H)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/05/07       (H)       RES RPT 5DP 1NR                                                                                        
04/05/07       (H)       DP: ROSES, KOHRING, SEATON, GATTO,                                                                     
                         JOHNSON                                                                                                
04/05/07       (H)       NR: GUTTENBERG                                                                                         
04/18/07       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/18/07       (H)       VERSION: HB 132                                                                                        
04/20/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/20/07       (S)       STA                                                                                                    
05/03/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
05/03/07       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
05/10/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 159                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: STILLBIRTH CERTIFICATE                                                                                             
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) GATTO                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/28/07       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/28/07       (H)       HES, JUD                                                                                               
03/06/07       (H)       HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/06/07       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/06/07       (H)       MINUTE(HES)                                                                                            
03/15/07       (H)       HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/15/07       (H)       Moved CSHB 159(HES) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/15/07       (H)       MINUTE(HES)                                                                                            
03/16/07       (H)       HES RPT CS(HES) 3DP 3NR                                                                                
03/16/07       (H)       DP: FAIRCLOUGH, ROSES, WILSON                                                                          
03/16/07       (H)       NR: NEUMAN, GARDNER, SEATON                                                                            
03/16/07       (H)       FIN REFERRAL ADDED AFTER JUD                                                                           
03/30/07       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/30/07       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/10/07       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/10/07       (H)       Moved CSHB 159(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/10/07       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/11/07       (H)       JUD RPT CS(JUD) 5DP                                                                                    
04/11/07       (H)       DP: GRUENBERG, LYNN, SAMUELS, HOLMES,                                                                  
                         RAMRAS                                                                                                 
04/11/07       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/11/07       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/17/07       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/17/07       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/17/07       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/18/07       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/18/07       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/20/07       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/20/07       (H)       Moved CSHB 159(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/20/07       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/23/07       (H)       FIN RPT CS(JUD) 4DP 2NR                                                                                
04/23/07       (H)       DP: THOMAS, NELSON, KELLY, MEYER                                                                       
04/23/07       (H)       NR: CRAWFORD, CHENAULT                                                                                 
04/30/07       (H)       BEFORE THE HOUSE                                                                                       
04/30/07       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/30/07       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 159(JUD)                                                                                 
05/02/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
05/02/07       (S)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
05/10/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  75                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DRIVERS LICENSE: ALCOHOL AWARENESS/MINOR                                                                           
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) RAMRAS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
01/16/07       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/5/07                                                                                
01/16/07       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/07       (H)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
02/06/07       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/06/07       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/06/07       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/08/07       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/08/07       (H)       Moved CSHB  75(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/08/07       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/12/07       (H)       STA RPT CS(STA) NT 5DP 1NR 1AM                                                                         
02/12/07       (H)       DP: JOHNSON, ROSES, GRUENBERG, DOLL,                                                                   
                         LYNN                                                                                                   
02/12/07       (H)       NR: COGHILL                                                                                            
02/12/07       (H)       AM: JOHANSEN                                                                                           
02/22/07       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
02/22/07       (H)       Moved CSHB  75(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/22/07       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
02/26/07       (H)       FIN RPT CS(STA) NT 5DP 1DNP 3NR 2AM                                                                    
02/26/07       (H)       DP: CRAWFORD, JOULE, NELSON, FOSTER,                                                                   
                         MEYER                                                                                                  
02/26/07       (H)       DNP: THOMAS                                                                                            
02/26/07       (H)       NR: STOLTZE, KELLY, CHENAULT                                                                           
02/26/07       (H)       AM: HAWKER, GARA                                                                                       
04/13/07       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/13/07       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 75(STA)                                                                                  
04/16/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/16/07       (S)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
05/03/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
05/03/07       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
05/10/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 184                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MOTOR VEHICLES-LICENSE/INSURANCE/IMPOUND                                                                           
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) ROSES                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
03/12/07       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/12/07       (H)       MLV, STA, FIN                                                                                          
03/20/07       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/20/07       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/20/07       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
03/22/07       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/22/07       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/27/07       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/27/07       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/03/07       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/03/07       (H)       Moved CSHB 184(MLV) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/03/07       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
04/04/07       (H)       MLV RPT CS(MLV) NT 4DP 1DNP 2NR                                                                        
04/04/07       (H)       DP:   DAHLSTROM,   FAIRCLOUGH,   RAMRAS,                                                               
                         ROSES                                                                                                  
04/04/07       (H)       DNP: KAWASAKI                                                                                          
04/04/07       (H)       NR: LEDOUX, BUCH                                                                                       
04/13/07       (H)       STA REFERRAL WAIVED                                                                                    
04/25/07       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/25/07       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/25/07       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/26/07       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/26/07       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
04/27/07       (H)       FIN RPT CS(FIN) NT 6DP 3NR                                                                             
04/27/07       (H)       DP: GARA, NELSON, THOMAS, FOSTER,                                                                      
                        MEYER, CHENAULT                                                                                         
04/27/07       (H)       NR: CRAWFORD, KELLY, HAWKER                                                                            
04/27/07       (H)       FIN AT 9:00 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/27/07       (H)       Moved CSHB 184(FIN) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/27/07       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
05/02/07       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
05/02/07       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 184(FIN)                                                                                 
05/03/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
05/03/07       (S)       STA                                                                                                    
05/10/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JOHNNY ELLIS                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented SB 151 as sponsor.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARL GATTO                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented HB 132 and CSHB 159(JUD) as                                                                     
sponsor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAY RAMRAS                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions about CSHB 75(STA) as                                                                  
sponsor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB ROSES                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced CSHB 184(FIN) as sponsor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RHONDA CRAWFORD, representing herself                                                                                           
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of CSHB 159(JUD).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JOANNE CACCIATORE, MSW and CEO                                                                                                  
MISS Foundation                                                                                                                 
Peoria, Arizona                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of CSHB 159(JUD).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA COTTING, Staff                                                                                                          
to Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented CSHB 75(STA) for Representative                                                                 
Ramras, bill sponsor.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY MARSHAL, representing herself                                                                                           
Tok, Alaska                                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of CSHB 75(STA).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JOSH APPLEBEE, Staff                                                                                                            
to Representative Roses                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented CSHB 184(FIN) for Representative                                                                
Roses, bill sponsor.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MARTIN BOIRE, Chair                                                                                                             
Support our Troops, Inc.                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of CSHB 184(FIN).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUZANNE MEUNIER, Director of Advocacy                                                                                           
American Heart Association                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of SB 151.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
UVE KALENKA, representing himself                                                                                               
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of SB 151.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KATE HERRING, Staff                                                                                                             
to Senator Ellis                                                                                                                
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding SB 151.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SHAD ENGKILTERRA                                                                                                                
Southeast Service Center Director                                                                                               
American Red Cross of Alaska                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in favor of SB 151.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DUANE BANNOCK, Director                                                                                                         
Division of Motor Vehicles                                                                                                      
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified  on SB 151, CSHB  75(STA), and CSHB                                                             
184(FIN).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LESIL MCGUIRE  called the  Senate  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order at  9:04:13  AM.  Senators  French,                                                             
McGuire, and Stevens were present  at the call to order. Senators                                                               
Green and Bunde arrived later.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        SB 151 - NEW DRIVER'S LIC./PERMIT:CPR/FIRST AID                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:04:45 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE announced consideration of SB 151.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  JOHNNY ELLIS,  Alaska  State  Legislature, Juneau,  bill                                                               
sponsor,  introduced SB  151  to the  committee.  The bill  would                                                               
require  first-time  driver's   license  applicants  to  complete                                                               
cardiopulmonary  resuscitation  (CPR)   and  first  aid  training                                                               
before obtaining their license.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:06:44 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked how the requirement would work.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KATE HERRING,  Staff to Senator Ellis,  Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, said the  requirement is designed to be  applied to first                                                               
time license applicants for gradual  growth. A person coming into                                                               
the state with  an out-of-state license would not  be required to                                                               
complete  the  training.  The American  Heart  Association  (AHA)                                                               
hopes  this   requirement  will  stimulate  more   free  sessions                                                               
statewide  so training  costs will  be minimal.  The Division  of                                                               
Motor  Vehicles  (DMV)  would  develop  regulations  to  document                                                               
training and  assess whether the  training was  adequate. On-line                                                               
training  is also  available  to further  offset  costs and  time                                                               
constraints to  applicants. Studies show  a small amount  of time                                                               
spent on this type of training can save lives.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:09:19 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELLIS said  this concept has been  before the legislature                                                               
before. He and Senator Cowdery  co-sponsored a bill from the last                                                               
legislature that  would have required  school districts  to offer                                                               
CPR/first  aid  training  as  part   of  the  curriculum.  School                                                               
districts across  the state resisted  the idea. The  current bill                                                               
is a simplified approach that has gained support.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked how he would  he find such a class today and                                                               
how much it would cost.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRING said there are courses  offered by the Red Cross, the                                                               
AHA, and other organizations. When  training time is donated, the                                                               
cost of  supplies is  about $5. Other  training programs  can run                                                               
from $20 to $40.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  how much  time  it takes  to complete  the                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE announced  the  off-net line  was  jammed so  some                                                               
individuals are not available to testify.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:10:59 AM                                                                                                                    
SHAD  ENGKILTERRA, Southeast  Service  Center Director,  American                                                               
Red  Cross  of Alaska,  Juneau,  Alaska,  said an  adult  CPR/AED                                                               
(automated external  defibrillator) class  from the Red  Cross is                                                               
four and half  hours long.  With first aid  training it becomes a                                                               
six-hour  class in  total.  The Red  Cross  classes also  provide                                                               
instruction in how to react in an emergency.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked if a student  in the class receives hands on                                                               
experience.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENGKILTERRA  answered yes,  it is  important to  practice the                                                               
skills.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked about fees for the classes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENGKILTERRA  said he charges  $42 per person. With  first aid                                                               
training added the total is $62.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked if training is offered statewide.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ENGKILTERRA answered  training  is offered  where there  are                                                               
instructors. He  is unsure of  training opportunities  outside of                                                               
Southeast Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:13:37 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE said her understanding  is that the bill is crafted                                                               
so that a  person could complete a Red Cross  course or an online                                                               
course to satisfy the training requirement.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENGKILTERRA said that was his understanding as well.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  asked if  Mr. Engkilterra  thought a  person could                                                               
reasonably understand CPR from an online course.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENGKILTERRA  answered he  did not know  what the  studies say                                                               
but from his experience people  forget what they learn within six                                                               
months. He believes the training  must be practiced to retain it,                                                               
but some training is better than nothing.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:36 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  asked  if  CPR/first  aid  instruction  would  be                                                               
incorporated  into  the training  manual  that  people are  given                                                               
prior to licensing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DUANE BANNOCK,  Director, Division of Motor  Vehicles, Department                                                               
of  Administration, Anchorage,  said  the  training manual  would                                                               
include  notification of  the requirement  rather than  first aid                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  asked when proof  of CPR/first aid  training would                                                               
be given.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK  answered he  envisions two  scenarios. Certification                                                               
could be either  by an affidavit section on  the learner's permit                                                               
application that  would be  signed by the  parent, or  a standard                                                               
affidavit  form that  an instructor  could sign.  Forms could  be                                                               
available in offices or on the division website.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:17:50 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE said she was  assured liability issues would not be                                                               
a factor because  of Good Samaritan laws. She asked  what kind of                                                               
disclaimer the division had considered.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK  said  provisional   drivers  provide  an  affidavit                                                               
stating they  have completed forty  hours of driver  training. He                                                               
said this system has been  successful and he anticipates the same                                                               
for a CPR/first aid training requirement.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE agreed  and said  she thinks  parental involvement                                                               
will be the key to success.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:04 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if this  is an unusual requirement  and if                                                               
there  are other  non-driving related  requirements that  the DMV                                                               
deals with.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK  answered that  organ  and  tissue donation  is  one                                                               
example.  He said  the  DMV is  also responsible  for  "a lot  of                                                               
elections."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if  other states  are doing  anything like                                                               
this. He  noted that  a person  is not denied  a license  if they                                                               
decline to donate their organs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK said  he does not know if other  states have the same                                                               
requirement proposed by the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR STEVENS  said he  is concerned about  going too  far with                                                               
this kind of requirement when a  person is simply trying to get a                                                               
driver's license.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:22:55 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  asked the cost  for a sixteen-year-old  getting a                                                               
driver's license.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK  said the license costs  $20 and road exam  $15. Road                                                               
exams are  also available from  private vendors for a  variety of                                                               
prices.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:23:44 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE closed public testimony on SB 151.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH said though he  thinks the training requirement is                                                               
a  good  idea, he  shares  Senator  Steven's concerns  about  the                                                               
impositions of the bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked how long the on-line class takes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRING answered  that speakers not accessible  at the moment                                                               
would be able to answer this and other questions.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  said  SB  151  will  be  set  aside  for  further                                                               
discussion   until  on-line   participants   are  available   for                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                    HB 132 - AGRICULTURE DAY                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:26:40 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE announced the consideration of HB 132.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARL  GATTO,  Alaska State  Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
bill sponsor, introduced HB 132  to the committee. The bill seeks                                                               
to dedicate the  first Tuesday in May as "Agriculture  Day."  The                                                               
impetus behind the  bill is to raise awareness of  the annual $50                                                               
million agricultural industry.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:27:47 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked if Representative  Gatto wanted to change the                                                               
date since the first Tuesday had already passed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  said the day  will be celebrated  this year                                                               
no matter what.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE clarified  that page 1, line 5, of  the bill should                                                               
remain "the first  Tuesday in May."  She asked  if the intent was                                                               
to  get young  people  aware  of what  agriculture  means to  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  described some of the  school projects that                                                               
could  occur  around  this  designated day.  He  hopes  to  raise                                                               
awareness  that all  food does  not come  wrapped in  plastic and                                                               
originate from a grocery store.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE closed public testimony on HB 132.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN  moved  HB  132  from  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  attached zero  fiscal notes. There  being no                                                               
objection, the motion carried.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
             CSHB 159(JUD) - STILLBIRTH CERTIFICATE                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:29:24 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE announced consideration of CSHB 159(JUD).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO, Alaska  State  Legislature, bill  sponsor,                                                               
introduced  CSHB 159(JUD)  to  the committee.  He  said the  bill                                                               
would help grieving parents of  stillborn children by providing a                                                               
certificate  acknowledging  their  birth. Existing  law  provides                                                               
only for  the issuance  of a  death certificate  when a  child is                                                               
stillborn.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:41 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  said  she understood  the  certificate  would  be                                                               
optional for families.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  said every  bit of  recognition may  help a                                                               
family's grieving process.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE acknowledged  that losing a child in this  way is a                                                               
very traumatic event.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO   said  this   bill  does  not   allow  the                                                               
certificate  to  be  utilized  for  permanent  fund  dividend  or                                                               
inheritance purposes.  He researched other states  procedures and                                                               
thinks   this  certificate   would   qualify   as  "a   five-star                                                               
certificate."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE called an at ease at 9:32 AM.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:33:34 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE called the meeting back to order.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
RHONDA  CRAWFORD, representing  herself,  testified  in favor  of                                                               
CSHB 159(JUD). In October she lost  her daughter as a result of a                                                               
stillbirth.  At  the  hospital  she  was asked  to  fill  out  an                                                               
application for  a birth  certificate and then  was told  she was                                                               
given the wrong form; paperwork  for a death certificate was what                                                               
was  needed. It  was a  devastating  experience for  her and  her                                                               
family.  She  said  leaving  the   hospital  with  a  certificate                                                               
acknowledging the  existence of the  child would mean so  much to                                                               
families who suffer this kind of loss.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:37:08 AM                                                                                                                    
JOANNE CACCIATORE,  MSW and CEO  of the MISS  Foundation, Peoria,                                                               
Arizona, testified  in favor  of CSHB  159(JUD). She  said giving                                                               
birth to  a dead  baby is an  unbelievably painful  and traumatic                                                               
experience. Several  years ago Ms.  Cacciatore personally  lost a                                                               
child to stillbirth.   Currently she is a  PhD candidate focusing                                                               
her  research  on  women  and   families  that  have  experienced                                                               
stillbirths.  She  is  also  the  CEO and  founder  of  the  MISS                                                               
Foundation providing  services to families  when a child  dies at                                                               
any  age and  from any  cause. Her  home state  of Arizona  first                                                               
passed similar  legislation in 2001.  Since then nearly  20 other                                                               
states have enacted legislation addressing this issue.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CACCIATORE said  one in one hundred  families will experience                                                               
the death of  a baby because of stillbirth.  States tell families                                                               
they must have a death  certificate and pay for final disposition                                                               
through cremation  or burial for  a baby they never  say existed.                                                               
She said these  women gave birth just like every  other woman and                                                               
invest  emotionally, physically,  and  financially  in the  baby.                                                               
Many  countries  issue birth  certificates  for  babies that  are                                                               
stillborn,  but it  is  still  a fairly  recent  movement in  the                                                               
United States.  A birth certificate  would offer women  and their                                                               
families a  philosophical and psychological piece  of comfort and                                                               
dignity.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:41:09 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  thanked  Ms.  Crawford  and  Ms.  Cacciatore  for                                                               
sharing their  stories. She said  it was important for  the state                                                               
to do  whatever was  possible to make  this process  less painful                                                               
for families.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE closed public testimony on HB 159.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:42:18 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GREEN  moved  to  report  HB  159  from  committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and attached  fiscal note. There being                                                               
no objection, CSHB  159(JUD) moved from the  Senate State Affairs                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    CSHB 75(STA) - DRIVERS LICENSE: ALCOHOL AWARENESS/MINOR                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
9:42:42 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  announced consideration  of  HB  75. [Before  the                                                               
committee was CSHB 75(STA).]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  COTTING,  staff,  to  Representative  Jay  Ramras,  bill                                                               
sponsor,  introduced  CSHB 75(STA)  to  the  committee. The  bill                                                               
stipulates  that a  driver's  license issued  to  a person  under                                                               
twenty-one  will  expire  ninety  days  after  the  person  turns                                                               
twenty-one.  A  twenty-one-year-old  person applying  for  a  new                                                               
license after the  expiration date must pass an  alcohol and drug                                                               
awareness and safety  test. The test will be designed  by the DMV                                                               
and  Representative Ramras  hopes Mothers  Against Drunk  Drivers                                                               
(MADD)  will  also  participate  in  the  process.  Licenses  for                                                               
persons  over   twenty-one  and   under  twenty-one   would  look                                                               
different making  it easier  for alcohol  servers and  sellers to                                                               
detect minors.  The goal of  the bill is to  significantly reduce                                                               
under-age  drinking in  Alaska and  improve alcohol  awareness in                                                               
the  state. She  noted that  a committee  substitute (CS)  at the                                                               
request of  Mr. Bannock  of the  DMV, adds  an effective  date of                                                               
January 1, 2008.  Also included is a small fiscal  note of a one-                                                               
time $5,000 charge to initiate the process.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:46:24 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked if the bill had a finance referral.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. COTTING answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN asked  if an  alcohol awareness  test existed  for                                                               
first time license applicants.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. COTTING replied not that she was aware of.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DUANE BANNOCK,  Director, Division of Motor  Vehicles, Department                                                               
of Administration, Anchorage, said  there are currently questions                                                               
in the knowledge  section of the driving  test regarding drinking                                                               
and driving.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN  asked for clarification of  the difference between                                                               
the current test and the test proposed in the bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK said  the bill  would create  a separate  test at  a                                                               
different time  from when  most people  take the  knowledge test.                                                               
Most  applicants take  the test  at fourteen-years-old  when they                                                               
get an instruction permit. This  bill would require a second test                                                               
at  the expiration  of the  driver  license when  a driver  turns                                                               
twenty-one.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:48:49 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked what the cost of the test would be.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK said  DMV would  charge a  $15 fee  for a  duplicate                                                               
license, but the test itself would be free of charge.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked  where the driver would  get the information                                                               
necessary to pass the test.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK  said it would not  be proper for the  DMV to provide                                                               
the information. However, it would  be appropriate for the DMV to                                                               
be the distribution point of a booklet or pamphlet.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:50:19 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE noted that Representative  Ramras does not want the                                                               
CS  adopted today.  She said  the committee  should work  off the                                                               
original bill labeled 25-LS0348\K.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked  how the requirement would apply  to a forty-                                                               
seven-year-old from out of state seeking a license.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAY  RAMRAS,  Alaska State  Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
said  the  requirement  would  not apply  to  people  older  than                                                               
twenty-one or  people moving  into the  state older  than twenty-                                                               
one.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:51:31 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  asked how  the provision  would apply  to twenty-                                                               
one-year-old  out   of  state   military  personnel   or  college                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS said Mr. Bannock  of the DMV could speak to                                                               
this question.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK said licenses held  by active duty military personnel                                                               
have  no expiration  date  while they  are out  of  the State  of                                                               
Alaska.  However,  their  license   will  expire  90  days  after                                                               
returning  to the  state  or after  separating  from active  duty                                                               
service, whichever  comes first. The DMV  has statutory authority                                                               
to offer expiration extensions to college students.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:53:16 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  asked who will  develop the training  required by                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS said  the present  general knowledge  test                                                               
contains  one thousand  questions in  the pool.  An applicant  is                                                               
given  sixteen questions  out of  the  pool to  answer; eight  on                                                               
driving,  four on  insurance, and  four on  alcohol. He  would be                                                               
very comfortable  if the  Department of  Public Safety  (DPS) and                                                               
MADD put  the second  test together, under  the direction  of the                                                               
DMV. Alcohol related  questions could also be  generated from the                                                               
pool that already exists.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:54:36 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  Representative  Ramras to  speak about  the                                                               
policy goals of the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS said  he  has two  objectives.  One is  to                                                               
clarify  the age  line between  minors  and adults.  He said  the                                                               
Alcohol  Beverage Control  Board  (ABC)  has conducted  extensive                                                               
stings over the  last few years showing "there is  a leakage rate                                                               
amongst  minors  being  served   in  on-premise  and  off-premise                                                               
establishments."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  for clarification  of  the terms  "leakage                                                               
rate" and "predator."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS said  "leakage  rate" is  not an  industry                                                               
term but  one he  uses to  describe the  numbers of  minors being                                                               
served  by operators.  He considers  any young  person under  the                                                               
legal  age that  tries to  secure an  alcoholic beverage  and any                                                               
licensee who sells alcohol to a minor, a predator.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS reiterated that the  first half of the bill                                                               
establishes a clearer line between a  minor and an adult with the                                                               
automatic  expiration component.  The second  component addresses                                                               
the  need for  more comprehensive  education about  the risks  of                                                               
consuming alcohol  and driving.  A twenty-one-year-old  is moving                                                               
through  a very  influential phase  of life  when alcohol  use is                                                               
merging with the responsibility of  driving. He believes it is in                                                               
the best interest for the  safety of communities and young people                                                               
to consider both halves of this bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:01:21 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR FRENCH  said he  agrees with  the intent  of the  bill to                                                               
reduce DUI citations and save  lives. He also likes the landscape                                                               
versus   portrait  orientation   to  differentiate   age  groups.                                                               
However, he  wants to  see evidence  that required  testing would                                                               
change behavior.  He mentioned  DARE as an  example of  a program                                                               
that was supposed  to work and after a couple  of years found out                                                               
it had very little impact on young people's behavior.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:02:51 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said she agrees with  Senator French's statements.                                                               
She advised  Representative Ramras to provide  details about what                                                               
the test  will look like and  how it will be  administered. Other                                                               
details to  consider are costs, effectiveness,  and comparison to                                                               
other states that may have  a similar program. She also suggested                                                               
having someone from DPS or MADD speak to the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS agreed  those were  excellent suggestions.                                                               
He said  he envisions alcohol  education being  incorporated into                                                               
the DMV  handbook. Since the  general knowledge test  is designed                                                               
for  a fourteen-year-old  to pass,  he thinks  this will  help to                                                               
institutionalize the dissemination  of more information regarding                                                               
drinking and driving.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:05:03 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  Representative Ramras  should outline  costs                                                               
and how the program will work for the Finance Committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:06:06 AM                                                                                                                   
SHIRLEY MARSHAL,  representing herself, said she  supports HB 75.                                                               
She said  seven years pass  between the time  a fourteen-year-old                                                               
takes  the written  test and  when  they renew  their license  at                                                               
twenty-one. At twenty-one,  the driver renews with  no written or                                                               
driving  test.  She believes  a  written  test regarding  current                                                               
alcohol awareness  is a  great idea when  a driver  turns twenty-                                                               
one.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:08:11 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE closed public testimony on HB 75.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  moved  to  report HB  75  from  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  attached  fiscal  notes.  There                                                               
being  no objection,  CSHB 75(STA)  moved from  the Senate  State                                                               
Affairs Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
    CSHB 184(FIN) - MOTOR VEHICLES-LICENSE/INSURANCE/IMPOUND                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:09:11 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE announced the consideration  of HB 184. [Before the                                                               
committee was CSHB 184(FIN).]                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB  ROSES, Alaska  State Legislature,  sponsor of                                                               
HB 184, introduced his staff and others that worked on the bill.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOSH APPLEBEE, staff to Representative  Roses, said HB 184 brings                                                               
the "Support  Our Troops" commemorative license  plate to Alaska.                                                               
The plate  has an additional  fee attached that is  collected and                                                               
then  may  be appropriated  by  the  legislature to  Support  our                                                               
Troops  (SOT)  for  redistribution  in Alaska.  SOT  Inc.,  would                                                               
establish an  Alaska disbursement board for  determining the best                                                               
manner in  which to  disperse the funds.  Local control  of funds                                                               
dispersement  is  an essential  part  of  the bill.  Support  our                                                               
troops  plates have  been  issued in  twenty  states through  the                                                               
efforts of SOT with several more in process around the country.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. APPLEBEE noted that committee  members should have a synopsis                                                               
sheet of  changes in  Sections 1,  2, 4, and  6-9 that  have been                                                               
made  as  the  bill  has moved  through  committees.  He  quickly                                                               
summarized the changes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:13:17 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR BUNDE noted that there is an amendment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   MCGUIRE  said   she  wants   to  hear   testimony  before                                                               
considering the amendment.  She asked Mr. Applebee  to provide an                                                               
opinion on the amendment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  APPLEBEE said  some language  was altered  in House  Finance                                                               
that created a possible constitutional  problem around creating a                                                               
dedicated  fund. Legal  Services  has provided  some language  to                                                               
address  that issue.  Additionally,  there is  a language  change                                                               
that  recognizes the  copyrighted use  of the  term "Support  our                                                               
Troops."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:15:02 AM                                                                                                                   
MARTIN  BOIRE,  Chair, Support  our  Troops,  Inc., testified  in                                                               
favor of HB 184. He said the  license plate is a simple means for                                                               
civilians to  "honor our  moral obligation  to our  neighbors" by                                                               
assisting  families  of service  men  and  women deployed  for  a                                                               
natural disaster, a peace keeping mission, or a war.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE thanked  Mr. Boire for putting  his compassion into                                                               
action. She is  sympathetic towards families who  are impacted by                                                               
relatives deployed for extended duty in Iraq.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:17:42 AM                                                                                                                   
DUANE BANNOCK,  Director, Division of Motor  Vehicles, Department                                                               
of Administration, Anchorage, said he supports the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  asked if  the program set  up for  anatomical gift                                                               
donations was working.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK  said it is  halfway working. He said  the collection                                                               
of the  donations is working  well but  what the state  does with                                                               
the money after collection needs improvement.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked if the money  is going back to the anatomical                                                               
gift awareness program.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK replied no; the money is not going anywhere.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  asked what action  is needed to get  the donations                                                               
to the program.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK said legislation is  needed to direct the money where                                                               
it needs to go.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  asked if the  funding mechanism in this  bill will                                                               
work better than the anatomical gift awareness program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:19:32 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  BANNOCK  said  only  the  legislature  has  the  ability  to                                                               
appropriate  money. He  believes this  bill is  written correctly                                                               
and that  a bill will come  forward in the future  to correct the                                                               
problem with anatomical gift money.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked  if there is a simple sentence  that could be                                                               
included  in  this bill  to  address  the anatomical  gift  money                                                               
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK said  he was not prepared to address  this issue, but                                                               
would like to pursue it further.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  the  bill  sponsor if  he  was amenable  to                                                               
adding  a floor  amendment.  Hearing agreement  from the  sponsor                                                               
Senator McGuire  asked Mr. Bannock to  work with her staff  on an                                                               
amendment and submit it to her as quickly as possible.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:21:04 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GREEN asked  if Section 9 was added  during the committee                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  APPLEBEE  answered  yes;  it  was  added  in  House  Finance                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN  asked if the  legislation passed  on May 9  in the                                                               
Senate dealing with  the accumulation of fines,  is duplicated in                                                               
Section 9 of this bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  APPLEBEE answered  no; the  language in  this bill  adds the                                                               
cost  of towing  to  the accumulation  of fees  when  a crime  is                                                               
committed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  if  the "scofflaw  bill"  was connected  to                                                               
alcohol related crimes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK replied yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  this is  a separate  provision. This  change                                                               
would clarify that  for alcohol related crimes when  a vehicle is                                                               
impounded the person  that committed the crime will  pay the cost                                                               
of towing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:22:37 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GREEN asked for clarification  of the language on page 4,                                                               
line 9, of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE called an at-ease at 10:23 AM.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:24:50 AM.                                                                                                                  
CHAIR MCGUIRE called the committee back to order.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE said HB  184 would be set aside to  the call of the                                                               
chair to work on a technical point in Section 28.40.080.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE closed public testimony on HB 184.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN moved Amendment 1 as follows:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 1, following "Inc.,":                                                                                         
          Insert "approves the use of the terms and"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, lines 20 - 21:                                                                                                     
          Delete "solely for the purpose of providing benefits                                                                  
     within the State of Alaska to"                                                                                             
          Insert "to the organization for which the specialty                                                                   
     license plate was purchased for the benefit of Alaska"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  announced  there  were  no  objections  therefore                                                               
Amendment 1 carried.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE set  CSHB 184(FIN) as amended aside to  the call of                                                               
the chair.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        SB 151 - NEW DRIVER'S LIC./PERMIT:CPR/FIRST AID                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:26:07 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE brought SB 141 [151] back before the committee.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELLIS said  he  listened carefully  to  the concerns  of                                                               
committee members and appreciates their  comments. He knows of no                                                               
opposition  to the  idea that  young people  and the  state as  a                                                               
whole  would  benefit  from   citizens  receiving  CPR/first  aid                                                               
training. The mechanism  for making it happen  is the difficulty.                                                               
There was a  great deal of opposition to  requiring CPR/first aid                                                               
training in the public schools.  He understands that the training                                                               
is available for  free on line and there are  free or nominal fee                                                               
on-line  and community  courses. Course  availability would  also                                                               
depend on where  a person is located. He is  confident that there                                                               
is good  access to  inexpensive or free  training courses  to any                                                               
young person in the state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:28:08 AM                                                                                                                   
SUZANNE   MEUNIER,   Director   of   Advocacy,   American   Heart                                                               
Association, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified in support  of SB 151.                                                               
She  said  every year  in  America  sudden cardiac  arrest  kills                                                               
325,000 people  before they can  reach a hospital.  Nearly eighty                                                               
percent  of heart  attacks occur  at home  witnessed by  a family                                                               
member.  Less  than  seven  percent  of  cardiac  arrest  victims                                                               
survive.  Providing  CPR immediately  after  a  heart attack  can                                                               
double a victim's chance for  survival. Passage of this bill will                                                               
significantly  increase  the  number   of  Alaskans  prepared  to                                                               
respond to life threatening emergencies.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:31:32 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  BUNDE said  he read  that Seattle  was labeled  the best                                                               
city in  America to have a  heart attack because a  large part of                                                               
the population has learned CPR.  He asked if that information was                                                               
accurate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEUNIER  said yes, Seattle  is considered the standard  and a                                                               
victim's  survival rate  there is  in excess  of thirty  or forty                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  said  he  also   remembers  reading  they  have                                                               
excellent ambulance service by CPR  trained personnel. He was not                                                               
sure civilians were so well trained.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE said he read it was civilians.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:33:05 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR ELLIS  asked if  Ms. Meunier had  any comments  about the                                                               
committee  members' concerns  related to  the appropriateness  of                                                               
attaching CPR/first aid training  to receiving a driver's license                                                               
and  the costs  and inconveniences  of getting  the training.  He                                                               
also  asked  for  her  thoughts  about  weighing  those  concerns                                                               
against the possible education gains of the bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEUNIER  said a  new generation of  Alaskans trained  to deal                                                               
with  emergencies  will  increase  the  number  of  lives  saved.                                                               
Evidence supports the fact that  people learn differently and on-                                                               
line training can be more  effective for some learners. This bill                                                               
targets  an age  group that  spends much  of their  time on-line.                                                               
Currently available online  courses take up to two  hours and the                                                               
person has access to the course for  up to six months. The AHA is                                                               
ready  to  partner with  DMV  to  ensure regulation  language  is                                                               
adequate to meet  the requirements of the bill.  The January 2008                                                               
effective  date  gives  them  plenty   of  time  to  ensure  that                                                               
opportunities are easily accessible and low cost.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:36:25 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR ELLIS asked  if class availability would  increase if the                                                               
bill passes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEUNIER  said the  AHA is  always looking  for ways  to train                                                               
more people.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  said it is  should not be assumed  that everyone                                                               
has access to  the internet and classes will  be taught statewide                                                               
given the small communities scattered around the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEUNIER said she read Alaska is  one of the top states in the                                                               
country for  technology access, including schools  and libraries.                                                               
She believes  the AHA would  be able to deliver  the information,                                                               
through technology,  particularly in  the smaller  communities in                                                               
rural Alaska.  Additionally, there  are low cost  print materials                                                               
available from the AHA.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:38:55 AM                                                                                                                   
UVE KALENKA, representing himself, said  the bill is important to                                                               
him personally  and thanked Senator  Ellis for introducing  it on                                                               
his  behalf.  Approximately  four  years ago  his  son  Eric  was                                                               
murdered. Eric's  life might have  been saved had someone  on the                                                               
scene known  how to apply a  tourniquet to his wound.  He said if                                                               
one life is saved it is worth it and urged passage of the bill.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:40:51 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE closed public testimony on SB 151.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  said he appreciates  the comments he  has heard,                                                               
but has  serious misgivings about the  bill. He does not  see the                                                               
direct  connection  between  obtaining  a  driver's  license  and                                                               
learning CPR and  is concerned how training will  be available to                                                               
everyone in  the state. He  believes the  place for this  kind of                                                               
education  is  in  the schools.  Requiring  CPR  training  before                                                               
issuing a driver's  license seems an unnecessary  burden on young                                                               
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE commented  that though this may not  be the perfect                                                               
mechanism,  he would  like  Alaska to  emulate  Seattle and  have                                                               
people trained in CPR. He added  that it may be more important in                                                               
Alaska when  a person may  be miles  from any road  and immediate                                                               
medical care.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:44:24 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  BUNDE  moved  to  report  SB  151  from  committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and attached fiscal note.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken on  the motion of passing  SB 151 out                                                               
of committee. Senators Bunde, French,  and McGuire voted in favor                                                               
and  Senators Stevens  and Green  voted  against. Therefore  CSSB                                                               
151(HES)  passed from  committee with  individual recommendations                                                               
and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:45:21 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE recessed the meeting to the call of the chair.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
    CSHB 184(FIN) - MOTOR VEHICLES-LICENSE/INSURANCE/IMPOUND                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:25:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE called  the meeting back to  order. Senators Green,                                                               
French, and McGuire were present at the call to order.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  brought amended  CSHB  184(FIN)  back before  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE moved  Amendment 2 to CSHB 184(FIN)  referred to as                                                               
version L.3/Luckhaupt as follows:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 3:                                                                                                            
          Delete "mandatory impoundments of vehicles used in                                                                    
     certain offenses,"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 5, following "persons;":                                                                                      
          Insert "relating to the anatomical gift awareness                                                                     
     fund;"                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 6:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Section 1.  AS 13.50.160(d) is amended to read:                                                                      
     (d)   Money appropriated to  or for use  by the fund  may be                                                               
     spent  for   the  purposes  of  the   fund  without  further                                                               
     appropriation. The  annual estimated balance in  the account                                                             
     may be appropriated by the legislature to Life Alaska Inc."                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7:                                                                                                            
     Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                         
     Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, lines 9 - 17:                                                                                                      
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 18:                                                                                                           
     Delete "Sections 2 - 5"                                                                                                    
     Insert "Sections 3 - 6"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green objected for explanation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE said  the amendment addresses the  problem with the                                                               
appropriation  of   money  from  the  anatomical   gift  donation                                                               
program. The amendment also deletes subsection 9.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN withdrew her objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:26:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked why subsection 9 was being deleted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE replied that removing  the section would remove the                                                               
cost of towing.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH  clarified  that  28.40.080  was  not  a  current                                                               
statute.  This amendment  would  remove the  subsection so  there                                                               
won't be a provision for impoundment of motor vehicles.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE said it could be added to the crime package.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH said that was a good idea.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said the intent is  to set up the  anatomical gift                                                               
donation fund the  same way as the support our  troops fund. When                                                               
a person donates to a cause the money should be end up there.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Hearing  no  further objection  to  Amendment  2 it  was  adopted                                                               
bringing the bill as amended before the committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:28:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GREEN  moved to report  HB 184 as amended  from committee                                                               
with  individual recommendations  and accompanying  fiscal notes.                                                               
There  being no  objections,  SCS CSHB  184(STA)  moved from  the                                                               
Senate State Affairs Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN moved  to report the title  change resolution along                                                               
with amended  HB 184 from  committee. There being  no objections,                                                               
the motion carried.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE adjourned the Senate State Affairs meeting at                                                                     
4:29:10 PM.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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