Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/27/1994 09:10 AM STA

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                SENATE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE                                 
                         April 27, 1994                                        
                           9:10 a.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Loren Leman, Chair                                                    
 Senator Mike Miller, Vice Chair                                               
 Senator Robin Taylor                                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Jim Duncan                                                            
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 47(FIN)                                                 
 "An Act relating to primary elections and to the delivery of the              
 primary ballots to persons making application for them when, by               
 operation of political party rule, two or more primary ballots must           
 be provided to the public; preventing a voter from changing the               
 voter's party affiliation within 30 days of a primary election when           
 two or more primary ballots must be provided to the public; and               
 annulling a related regulation; and providing for an effective                
 date."                                                                        
                                                                               
 HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 34                                            
 Declaring June 5 - 11, 1994, as Alaska Garden Week.                           
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 351(FIN) am(efd add)                                    
 "An Act relating to permits for the carrying of a concealed                   
 handgun; providing for local option elections in municipalities and           
 established villages to prohibit the possession of a concealed                
 handgun under a permit; and relating to the possession of weapons;            
 and providing for an effective date."                                         
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 417(JUD) am                                             
 "An Act relating to the possession of weapons within the grounds of           
 or on the parking lot of preschools, elementary, junior high, and             
 secondary schools or while participating in a school-sponsored                
 event; and relating to school lockers and other containers provided           
 in a public or private school by the school or the school                     
 district."                                                                    
                                                                               
 HOUSE BILL NO. 518                                                            
 "An Act extending the termination date of the Board of Governors of           
 the Alaska Bar Association; and providing for an effective date."             
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                             
                                                                               
 HB 47 - No previous senate committee action.                                  
 HCR 34 - No previous senate committee action.                                 
                                                                               
 HB 351 - See State Affairs minutes dated 4/25/94.                             
                                                                               
 HB 417 - No previous senate committee minutes.                                
                                                                               
 HB 518 - No previous senate committee minutes.                                
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Lynda Giguere, Aide                                                           
 Representative Hudson                                                         
 State Capitol, Juneau, AK 99801-1182¶465-6827                                 
  POSITION STATEMENT:  prime sponsor of HCR 34                                 
                                                                               
 Portia Babcock, Aide                                                          
 Senate State Affairs Committee                                                
 State Capitol, Juneau, AK 99801-1182¶465-2095                                 
  POSITION STATEMENT:  testified on HB 351                                     
                                                                               
 C.E. Swackhammer, Deputy Commissioner                                         
 Department of Public Safety                                                   
 P.O. Box 111200, Juneau, AK 99811-1200                                        
  POSITION STATEMENT:  testified on HB 351                                     
                                                                               
 Representative Jeannette James                                                
 State Capitol, Juneau, AK 99801-1182¶465-3743                                 
  POSITION STATEMENT:  prime sponsor of HB 351                                 
                                                                               
 Representative Con Bunde                                                      
 State Capitol, Juneau, AK 99801-1182¶465-3759                                 
  POSITION STATEMENT:  prime sponsor of HB 417                                 
                                                                               
 Vernon Marshall                                                               
 NEA-Alaska, Inc.                                                              
 114 2nd St., Juneau, AK 99801¶586-3090                                        
  POSITION STATEMENT:  in favor of HB 417                                      
                                                                               
 Phillip R. Volland, President                                                 
 Alaska Bar Association                                                        
 211 H. St., Anchorage, AK 99501¶276-5231                                      
  POSITION STATEMENT:  testified on HB 518                                     
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-32, SIDE A                                                            
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN calls the Senate State Affairs Committee to order at           
 9:10 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 007                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brings up HB 47 (ABSENTEE BALLOTS - PRIMARY                    
 ELECTIONS) as the first order of business before the Senate State             
 Affairs Committee.  The chairman asks the pleasure of the                     
 committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 011                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER makes a motion to discharge HB 47 from the Senate              
 State Affairs Committee with individual recommendations.                      
                                                                               
 Number 017                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, orders HB 47 released from              
 committee with individual recommendations.                                    
 Number 018                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brings up HCR 34 (ALASKA GARDEN WEEK) as the next              
 order of business before the Senate State Affairs Committee and               
 calls Ms. Giguere.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 024                                                                    
                                                                               
 LYNDA GIGUERE, Aide to Representative Hudson, states HCR 34 is                
 introduced by Representative Hudson every year on behalf of the               
 Juneau Garden Club.  The resolution is to recognize the importance            
 of gardening, especially here in Juneau.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 032                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there is any objection to the discharge of             
 HCR 34.                                                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asks how long Representative Hudson has been in the            
 legislature.                                                                  
                                                                               
 (There is general consensus that Representative Hudson has been in            
 the legislature for about eight years.)                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR states the only reason he asks, is that a resolution           
 costs the state about 17,000$.  Senator Taylor says the same thing            
 can be accomplished with a citation.                                          
                                                                               
 (Senator Taylor's figure of 17,000$ for the cost of a resolution is           
 questioned by the chairman.)                                                  
                                                                               
 MS. GIGUERE responds that Representative Hudson attempted to                  
 establish Alaska Garden Week as an annual event, but it didn't get            
 done.  Ms. Giguere tells Senator Taylor she will pass on his                  
 comments to Representative Hudson.                                            
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there is any further discussion on HCR 34.             
                                                                               
 Number 055                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER makes a motion to discharge HCR 34 from the Senate             
 State Affairs Committee with individual recommendations.                      
                                                                               
 Number 056                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, orders HCR 34 released from             
 committee with individual recommendations.                                    
 Number 058                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brings up HB 351 (PERMIT TO CARRY CONCEALED WEAPONS)           
 as the next order of business before the Senate State Affairs                 
 Committee.  The chairman notes that at the last meeting, a                    
 committee substitute and three amendments to HB 351 were adopted.             
 There is now a new cs, which addresses two other changes.  The                
 chairman asks Ms. Babcock to explain the changes that were made to            
 the bill.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 070                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER makes a motion to adopt the new committee substitute           
 for HB 351.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 074                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, states the new cs for HB 351            
 has been adopted.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 077                                                                    
                                                                               
 PORTIA BABCOCK, Aide to the Senate State Affairs Committee, states            
 that there were six changes incorporated into the new cs.  Ms.                
 Babcock reviews those changes.                                                
                                                                               
 Number 130                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if anyone in the public wishes to testify.  The           
 chairman calls Mr. Swackhammer to testify.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 132                                                                    
                                                                               
 C.E. SWACKHAMMER, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Public Safety            
 (DPS), states the most significant change made to HB 351 is the               
 October 1st enactment date.  The problems the department foresees             
 are, one, the Department of Law has to review regulations, and that           
 will take time.  Secondly, Mr. Swackhammer sees no way that the               
 department will be able to fill the two commission positions by               
 October 1st.                                                                  
 Number 157                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN responds that the enactment date was changed to                
 October 1st, because of comments from members of the public.  Those           
 comments indicated that people didn't mind not being able to carry            
 a concealed weapon until January 1, 1995, but they wanted to be               
 able to submit applications before January 1, so that permits could           
 be issued by January 1, 1995.  The chairman asks Mr. Swackhammer if    if   
 there is any way to make that idea work.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 165                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. SWACKHAMMER replies that DPS will implement the provisions of             
 HB 351 as quickly as possible and to the best of their ability.               
 Mr. Swackhammer does not anticipate a great number of regulations;            
 it is simply the regulation process itself which takes time.  Mr.             
 Swackhammer lists some of the things that will have to be done to             
 implement HB 351.                                                             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN states DPS will have four complete months, from the            
 time the legislature acts, to implement HB 351.                               
                                                                               
 Number 199                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asks what will occur in the instance when a                    
 municipality opts out, since the permit is actually a state-wide              
 permit.                                                                       
                                                                               
 MR. SWACKHAMMER says he will defer to Representative James on that            
 question.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 210                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JEANNETTE JAMES, prime sponsor of HB 351, states she           
 does not know the answer to that question.  She wonders whether               
 opting out would only mean that the people who lived in that                  
 district would not be allowed to apply for a concealed weapon                 
 permit, or if it would not allow any person with a permit to carry            
 in that area.  Representative James says the bill is not very                 
 specific regarding local opt out, and thinks the legislature would            
 have to get a legal interpretation on that provision.                         
                                                                               
 Number 220                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR states he asks because on page 10 and 11 of HB 351,            
 it states a person with a concealed weapon permit may not carry a             
 concealed weapon in a village or municipality that has prohibited             
 possession.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 222                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JAMES responds that was the intent of the                      
 legislation.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 230                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asks where the committee is in coordinating drivers            
 licenses and concealed carrying permits.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 235                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. SWACKHAMMER replies the renewal theme appears first on page 7,            
 line 28.                                                                      
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks Senator Taylor what, specifically, was his                
 question.  An upper limit for the initial fee and the renewal fee             
 was added to HB 351.                                                          
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR responds he was looking for initial time and                   
 renewal.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 250                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes a motion to amend the renewal period to five             
 years.  He asks for that amendment so that concealed carrying                 
 permits can be coordinated with driver's licenses.                            
                                                                               
 Number 262                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN restates Senator Taylor's motion: on page 3, line              
 22, delete four, insert five.  The chairman asks if there are any             
 comments on the amendment.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 268                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JAMES states she would support a five-year permit,             
 but coordinating driver's license renewals and concealed carry                
 permit renewals would be a very hard thing to do.                             
                                                                               
 Number 278                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN states he understood Senator Taylor's amendment as             
 simply allowing for coordination sometime in the future.                    
                                                                               
 Number 283                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. SWACKHAMMER states Senator Taylor's amendment would change the            
 fiscal impact of HB 351 slightly.  More importantly, though, the              
 way the bill is written, a holder of a permit would only have to go           
 through competency training once every ten years.                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR replies he intends to ask for an amendment changing            
 competency training to once every five years also.                            
                                                                               
 Number 304                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. SWACKHAMMER states he would support the retraining or refresher           
 course.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 309                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there is any discussion or objection to                
 Senator Taylor's amendment requiring renewal of concealed carry               
 permits from once every four years, to once every five years.                 
 Hearing no objection, the chairman states amendment #4 has been               
 adopted.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 313                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes a motion to amend on page 6, line 28,                    
 eliminate the words, "second time and every other...".  Senator               
 Taylor comments that won't work.                                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER advises Senator Taylor to just drop the words, "for            
 the second time and every other renewal thereafter...".                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR says that language will work.                                  
                                                                               
 Number 325                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN restates amendment #5, by Senator Taylor, dropping             
 the language, "for the second time and every other renewal                    
 thereafter...".                                                               
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there is any discussion or objection to the            
 amendment.  Hearing none, the chairman states he will object to the           
 amendment.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asks the chairman to discuss the amendment.  Senator           
 Taylor asks the chairman if he wants the training to go to once               
 every ten years, which would be the effect of the amendment                   
 failing.                                                                      
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN replies he would like the training requirement to be           
 once every ten years.                                                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER asks for an at ease.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 333                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN states the committee will stand at ease.                       
                                                                               
 Number 335                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN calls the Senate State Affairs Committee back to               
 order.  The chairman states amendment #5 is before the committee.             
 The chairman asks that the role be called on the adoption of                  
 amendment #5.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Amendment #5 is approved by a vote of 2 yeas, 1 nay, and 2 absent,            
 with Senators Miller and Taylor voting in favor of the amendment,             
 Chairman Leman voting against the amendment, and Senators Duncan              
 and Ellis absent.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 340                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes a motion to adopt amendment #6.  On page 5,              
 line 5, add language stating, "been ordered by a court to                     
 complete...".  Senator Taylor's intent is that people voluntarily             
 submitting to alcohol treatment not be penalized.                             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there is any comment regarding amendment #6.           
                                                                               
 Number 358                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. SWACKHAMMER comments he understands Senator Taylor's intent.              
                                                                               
 Number 360                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if that same conceptual amendment would apply             
 to paragraph (15).                                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR responds he is not willing to go along with that               
 one.  If a person is using illegal substances, they've got other              
 major problems that they wouldn't get a permit for anyhow.                    
                                                                               
 Number 365                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. SWACKHAMMER asks how "ordered" would be defined.  Would that be           
 by a court order?                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR states "ordered" would be defined as court ordered.            
                                                                               
 Number 373                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if anyone wishes to comment on amendment #6.              
                                                                               
 Number 378                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes a motion to adopt amendment #6.                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there is discussion or objection to                    
 amendment #6.  Hearing none, the chairman states amendment #6 has             
 been adopted.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 382                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes a motion to discharge HB 351 from the Senate             
 State Affairs Committee with individual recommendations.                      
                                                                               
 Number 384                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, orders HB 351 released from             
 committee with individual recommendations.                                    
 Number 387                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brings up HB 417 (POSSESSION OF FIREARMS IN SCHOOL             
 LOCKERS) as the next order of business before the Senate State                
 Affairs Committee.  The chairman announces there is a committee               
 substitute.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 390                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER makes a motion to adopt SCS CSHB 417(STA) in lieu of           
 CSHB 417(JUD) am.                                                             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, states the committee                    
 substitute has been adopted.  The chairman calls the prime sponsor            
 to testify.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 394                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE, prime sponsor of HB 417, states HB 417              
 will change the penalty for having a firearm on school grounds from           
 a class b to a class a misdemeanor.  A school administrator could             
 exempt persons for purposes such as participating on a rifle team.            
 HB 417 would also allow for the searching of school lockers, with             
 prior notification.                                                           
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE states that the amendment the chairman                   
 referred to deleted a provision allowing a person to traverse                 
 school grounds with an encased, unloaded weapon if that person was            
 on their way to go hunting.  This is not allowed under federal law.           
 Hunters can be accommodated by simply getting permission from the             
 school administrator, or a representative of the administrator.               
 There was some concern that in rural areas that people coming to              
 and from hunting might pass by the school.  If the hunter is                  
 traversing a right of way, this law does not apply.  If, for                  
 whatever reason, school children need to carry guns while                     
 travelling to and from school for protection from wildlife, they              
 can do so if they get permission from the school administrator.               
                                                                               
 Number 425                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there are any questions.                               
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asks Representative Bunde if his committee (House              
 Health, Education & Social Services Committee) is currently holding           
 hearings on senate bills.                                                     
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE responds that his committee is shut down and             
 is not having any hearings.                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asks Representative Bunde if there are any senate              
 bills in his committee at this time.                                          
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE replies he has one senate bill by Senator                
 Zharoff, which is in the process of being waived from committee.              
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR comments he discovered yesterday that all house                
 committees are shut down and not moving any legislation, with the             
 exception of the House Finance Committee.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 435                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there are further questions for                        
 Representative Bunde.  Hearing none, the chairman calls Mr.                   
 Marshall to testify.                                                          
                                                                               
 VERNON MARSHALL, NEA-Alaska, states NEA-Alaska supports HB 417.  He           
 has no further testimony.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 440                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if anyone else wishes to testify on HB 417.               
 Hearing none, the chairman asks the pleasure of the committee.                
                                                                               
 Number 441                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes a motion to discharge HB 417 from the Senate             
 State Affairs Committee with individual recommendations.                      
                                                                               
 Number 442                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, orders HB 417 released from             
 committee with individual recommendations.                                    
 Number 445                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brings up HB 518 (EXTEND ALASKA BAR ASSOCIATION),              
 and asks if there is anyone from the sponsor's office (House                  
 Judiciary Committee) who wishes to testify on HB 518.  Hearing                
 none, the chairman calls Mr. Volland to testify.                              
                                                                               
 Number 450                                                                    
                                                                               
 PHILLIP VOLLAND, President, Alaska Bar Association, states HB 518             
 incorporates the recommendation of the Legislative Budget & Audit             
 Committee that the Alaska Bar Association continue its function as            
 regulator of attorney practice in Alaska.  Mr. Volland states the             
 association supports the bill and urges its' passage.  Mr. Volland            
 relates information he thinks is helpful in understanding the                 
 importance of both what the Alaska Bar Association does and moving            
 HB 518 from the Senate State Affairs Committee.                               
                                                                               
 Number 502                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks Mr. Volland if five years is the normal cycle             
 for the Alaska Bar Association.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 503                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. VOLLAND responds it is a four year cycle, plus one year for               
 winding down operations.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 506                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR thanks Mr. Volland for his excellent presentation.             
 Senator Taylor expresses concern that it will appear that the                 
 legislature, by having to pass legislation allowing the Alaska Bar            
 Association to continue to operate, has some say in the Alaska Bar            
 Association and the governance of attorneys.  The legislature                 
 really has nothing to say about the Alaska Bar Association; the               
 association derives its' authority from the court system, not the             
 legislature.  Having the legislature vote on legislation to                   
 continue the operation of the Alaska Bar Association stems from a             
 time when public funds were used for the operation of the                     
 association.  Senator Taylor thinks that since public funds are no            
 longer used to operate the association, the Alaska Bar Association            
 should not have to come to the legislature for authority in                   
 operating.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 525                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. VOLLAND responds it has always been a debate among the                    
 profession as to whether the legislature must authorize the                   
 operation of the Alaska Bar Association.  However, Mr. Volland                
 personally believes it is good for the association to have to                 
 answer to the public in some way.  Mr. Volland does think it odd              
 that the association has to answer to the legislature, since the              
 association operates pretty well on its' own.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 532                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN thinks it is good for the legislature and the                  
 organizations to have to communicate with each other.  The chairman           
 asks Mr. Volland what role the Alaska Bar Association plays in the            
 State Judicial polls.                                                         
                                                                               
 MR. VOLLAND replies the association does not play a roll in the               
 statewide judicial polls.                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 548                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks Mr. Volland if he is aware of any efforts to              
 blackball some people who apply to judgeships.                                
                                                                               
 Number 550                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. VOLLAND responds he is not.  Mr. Volland states the poll itself           
 is sufficiently detailed in identifying the respondents background            
 and experience with a particular judge, that the Judicial Council             
 is able to sort out those things in its' evaluation of judges.                
 Most attorneys believe that judges shouldn't be evaluated on single           
 issues or single cases; what attorneys want is a fair chance before           
 a judge and nothing else.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 565                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks Mr. Volland if he can suggest any ways that the           
 legislature can help the Alaska Bar Association do its' job.                  
                                                                               
 MR. VOLLAND replies he cannot think of any.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 568                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes additional comments regarding the relationship           
 of the legislature, the Alaska Bar Association, and the Court                 
 System.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 579                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR continues his comments regarding the relationship              
 between the legislature, the Alaska Bar Association, and the Court            
 System.                                                                       
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-32, SIDE B                                                            
 Number 576                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR makes a motion to discharge HB 518 from the Senate             
 State Affairs Committee with individual recommendations.                      
                                                                               
 Number 572                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asks if there is anyone else to testify on HB 518.             
 Hearing none, the chairman orders HB 518 released from committee              
 with individual recommendations.                                              
 Number 568                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN adjourns the Senate State Affairs Committee meeting            
 at 10:05 a.m.                                                                 
                                                                               

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