Legislature(2023 - 2024)BUTROVICH 205

03/13/2024 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:31:51 PM SB217
04:24:44 PM Presentation: Alaska Energy Authority (aea)
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 13, 2024                                                                                         
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Cathy Giessel, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 217                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the taxation of independent power producers;                                                                
and increasing the efficiency of integrated transmission system                                                                 
charges and use for the benefit of ratepayers."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): Alaska Energy Authority (AEA)                                                                                  
Update by Curtis Thayer, Executive Director                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 217                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: INTEGRATED TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/02/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/02/24       (S)       RES, L&C, FIN                                                                                          
03/04/24       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/04/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/04/24       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
03/13/24       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ANTONY SCOTT, Director                                                                                                          
Economic and Regulatory Analysis                                                                                                
Renewable Energy Alaska Project (REAP)                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented SB 217 on behalf of the                                                                         
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MATTHEW PERKINS, representing self                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 217.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PENNY GAGE, representing self                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 217.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DOUG JOHNSON, representing self                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 217.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KEN HUCKEBA, representing self                                                                                                  
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 217.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DAVID BRAILEY, representing self                                                                                                
Eagle River, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 217.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JENN MILLER, representing self                                                                                                  
Houston, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 217.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority (AEA)                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented an overview of AEA.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CATHY  GIESSEL  called the  Senate  Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:31  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Wielechowski,  Kawasaki, Kaufman, Claman, Co-                                                               
Chair  Giessel,  and  Co-Chair   Bishop.  Senator  Dunbar  joined                                                               
thereafter.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
             SB 217-INTEGRATED TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
3:31:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  announced the consideration of  SENATE BILL NO.                                                               
217  "An  Act  relating  to the  taxation  of  independent  power                                                               
producers;   and   increasing   the  efficiency   of   integrated                                                               
transmission  system   charges  and   use  for  the   benefit  of                                                               
ratepayers."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:32:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL announced invited testimony on SB 217.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:32:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR joined the meeting.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:39 PM                                                                                                                    
ANTONY  SCOTT,   Director,  Economic  and   Regulatory  Analysis,                                                               
Renewable  Energy  Alaska   Project  (REAP),  Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
presented SB 217 on behalf  of the administration. He stated that                                                               
he  is an  economist and  former commissioner  at the  Regulatory                                                               
Commission  of  Alaska  (RCA),  with  decades  of  experience  in                                                               
economics and  policy analysis  in the state.  REAP is  a member-                                                               
based  organization. Its  membership  includes public  utilities,                                                               
independent power  producers, labor groups,  Native associations,                                                               
consumer groups,  and others.  He moved to  slide 2  and detailed                                                               
REAP support for SB 217.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     REAP supports SB 217                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
        • Creates favorable economic conditions for new                                                                         
          investment that will create ratepayer value by                                                                        
          solving two significant existing problems:                                                                            
          1. Inefficient   cost   recovery   mechanism   for                                                                  
             transmission system infrastructure costs impede                                                                    
             economic development and raise rates paid by                                                                       
             consumers                                                                                                          
          2. Inefficient and inequitable local tax burdens                                                                    
             for Independent Power Producers (IPP) increase                                                                     
             their investment costs and raise rates to                                                                          
             utility customers                                                                                                  
        • It offers a simple and understandable approach                                                                        
        • It does so with a minimum of overhead costs and                                                                       
          institutional disruption                                                                                              
        • It refrains from using overly prescriptive                                                                            
          mechanisms                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:34:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT moved to slide 3 and explained wheeling charges:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Inefficient Transmission System Cost Recovery                                                                            
     (current "toll-road" system)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
        • Significant portion of transmission system costs                                                                      
          are currently  recovered through  "wheeling rates"                                                                    
          Example:  for Homer  Electric Assoc  to buy  power                                                                  
          from a  wind producer  in Fairbanks, HEA  pays for                                                                    
          both  cost  of  generating   the  power  plus  the                                                                    
          combined  costs to  "wheel" the  power across  the                                                                    
          various  components of  the Railbelt  transmission                                                                    
          system:                                                                                                               
          o  $0.00531/kWh to  Golden  Valley Electric  Assoc                                                                    
             (GVEA) to use its transmission system                                                                              
          o  $0.00512/kWh to  Alaska Energy  Authority (AEA)                                                                    
             to use the Intertie,                                                                                               
          o  $0.00415/kWh to Matanuska Electric  Assoc (MEA)                                                                    
             to use its transmission system                                                                                     
          o  $0.01412/kWh to Chugach Electric Assoc (CEA) to                                                                    
             use its transmission system                                                                                        
     Total transmission wheeling charges = $0.0287/kWh                                                                        
        • The actual costs of transmission are not                                                                            
          increasing with this use, but                                                                                         
        • These additional "toll" charges can prevent an                                                                        
          otherwise economic  generation project  from being                                                                    
          built                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT  stated that the inefficiencies  in transmission system                                                               
cost recovery are a significant  issue. A portion of transmission                                                               
system costs  are recovered not  from a utility's  own ratepayers                                                               
but  through  wheeling charges.  When  one  utility uses  another                                                               
utility's transmission  system, they  pay a $1  per kilowatt-hour                                                               
charge  for moving  electricity  over  that transmission  system.                                                               
These charges  essentially function as  a tax on  the transaction                                                               
of power generated in one area  and consumed in another, and this                                                               
tax is quite inefficient.  It can be likened to a  toll paid on a                                                               
road because the  costs of the transmission system  do not change                                                               
even when it  is being used. The result is  that these individual                                                               
wheeling charges can render  an otherwise economically beneficial                                                               
project uneconomic,  preventing the project from  proceeding. The                                                               
example  on  the  slide  illustrates  that  if  Homer  wished  to                                                               
purchase  wind power  from a  development north  of the  range in                                                               
Fairbanks, it would  have to pay for the cost  of generating that                                                               
power to  the Independent  Power Producer  (IPP). Even  if Golden                                                               
Valley built the wind power  themselves, they would still have to                                                               
pay  for the  power's generation  cost and  the combined  cost of                                                               
wheeling that  power across various  components of the  rail belt                                                               
transmission  system. These  combined  charges  amount to  almost                                                               
three cents  per kilowatt-hour,  which is  enough to  prevent the                                                               
transaction  from  happening.  This   would  be  unfortunate  for                                                               
economic development in the Fairbanks  region and a loss of value                                                               
for  Homer ratepayers.  It also  increases Homer's  difficulty in                                                               
incorporating  more  wind power  into  the  system, as  having  a                                                               
geographically  diverse source  of renewables  is beneficial  for                                                               
overall  system  reliability.  The   cost  reallocation  in  this                                                               
example, specifically  the nearly three cents  per kilowatt-hour,                                                               
raises concerns.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:38:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  how the wheeling charges  are set and                                                               
what   exactly   differentiates   these   rates.   He   expressed                                                               
appreciation for  slide 3, noting that  it was the first  time he                                                               
had seen the information broken down in this way.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:38:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT replied  that wheeling charges are  set through general                                                               
rate cases.  Each utility, excluding AEA,  determines their rates                                                               
through a rate proceeding at  the Regulatory Commission of Alaska                                                               
(RCA).  Utilities  calculate  their  total  system  costs,  which                                                               
include   their   transmission,  generation,   and   distribution                                                               
infrastructure.  For  example,  Chugach  Electric's  transmission                                                               
system is  used by other  parties. In its rate  case proceedings,                                                               
Chugach allocates  a portion  of their  transmission costs  to be                                                               
recovered  from these  other parties.  This  allocation is  often                                                               
contentious, but once  determined, it is converted  into a dollar                                                               
per  kilowatt-hour or  cents  per  kilowatt-hour rate.  Chugach's                                                               
total  transmission costs  are divided  based on  the agreed-upon                                                               
allocation percentage,  and this  amount is  then applied  to the                                                               
projected power transmitted over their lines by third parties.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:40:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  noted that  Chugach might argue  that their                                                               
ratepayers have paid  higher bills to cover the  cost of building                                                               
their  transmission systems,  and that  the wheeling  charges are                                                               
their way of recovering those  costs. He questioned how one would                                                               
respond  to  Chugach's position  if  the  company says  they  are                                                               
losing revenue  for each kilowatt-hour transmitted  through their                                                               
system, which their ratepayers have already funded.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:41:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT replied  that it is entirely reasonable  for Chugach to                                                               
argue for  cost recovery.  However, the  allocation of  costs and                                                               
benefits of transmission  infrastructure is inherently arbitrary.                                                               
As a former regulator, he  explained that while there are various                                                               
mechanisms  for determining  the appropriate  split, the  process                                                               
often involves  considerable debate  and negotiation,  similar to                                                               
choosing between  different types  of cuisine.  If a  utility can                                                               
build  transmission infrastructure  for  the benefit  of its  own                                                               
customers and  have others  partially cover  the costs,  it might                                                               
not   incentivize  the   construction  of   the  most   efficient                                                               
transmission systems. All users  benefit significantly from being                                                               
part  of an  interconnected grid.  This interconnection  improves                                                               
reliability and  increases opportunities for  power transactions.                                                               
The current system of wheeling  charges, which turns a fixed cost                                                               
into a  variable cost, acts  as a  tax and reduces  these overall                                                               
benefits. Moving to a lump  sum collection system would allow for                                                               
a fairer  allocation of system  costs without treating them  as a                                                               
tax on  the movement  of electricity.  This approach  would still                                                               
involve  debate over  the best  allocation method,  but it  would                                                               
recover  costs  based  on  fair system  usage  rather  than  per-                                                               
kilowatt-hour charges.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:44:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if a  levelized rate, such as seven or                                                               
eight cents  per kilowatt-hour,  would result in  other utilities                                                               
receiving a bit  more for their transmission  while Chugach might                                                               
receive a  bit less. He inquired  about how much this  might cost                                                               
Chugach's customers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:44:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT replied that SB  217 wouldn't replace multiple wheeling                                                               
rates with  a single wheeling  rate; instead, it  would eliminate                                                               
wheeling  rates altogether.  However,  he  acknowledged that  the                                                               
question of  cost responsibility and  the best way to  address it                                                               
remains. The  bill recognizes the  need for a  gradual transition                                                               
to this new  cost recovery mechanism, though it  does not specify                                                               
the  pace of  this transition.  This  will be  determined by  the                                                               
interested  parties  before  the  RCA. SB  217  acknowledges  the                                                               
current  historical  arrangements   that  produce  specific  cost                                                               
responsibilities and  revenue streams. A gradual  transition over                                                               
a period, such as one to  three years or five, might be sensible.                                                               
In the  interim, the  hope is to  build new  transmission assets,                                                               
partly  with federal  support.  REAP supports  this  and aims  to                                                               
ensure  that new  transmission is  used efficiently  for economic                                                               
development  and  ratepayer benefits.  Over  time,  the lump  sum                                                               
approach to allocating costs is  expected to benefit the greatest                                                               
number of people through the  integrated planning process managed                                                               
by the RRC. This process  will involve broad stakeholder input to                                                               
determine  which  transmission  projects  are  needed,  the  cost                                                               
responsibilities, and  the methods for cost  recovery, ultimately                                                               
leading to a more efficient and fair system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  asked if debt  is included in the  cost recovery                                                               
equation.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:48:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SCOTT replied  that  debt  is absolutely  part  of the  cost                                                               
recovery equation.  He explained  that cost  recovery encompasses                                                               
the   entire   cost   of  service,   including   debt   payments,                                                               
depreciation,  and  operation  and  maintenance  (O&M)  expenses.                                                               
Therefore, the full cost of  service associated with transmission                                                               
will be recovered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:48:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked if  the importance  of Grid  Resilience and                                                               
Innovation  Partnerships (GRIP)  funding, which  provides federal                                                               
support  for  building   additional  transmission  infrastructure                                                               
without  requiring utilities  to finance  it themselves  and pass                                                               
those  costs to  their ratepayers,  is a  significant reason  why                                                               
this approach makes sense today.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SCOTT replied  that transitioning  from  the current  system                                                               
makes sense  regardless of  the situation,  but it  is especially                                                               
important  given  the  need  to enhance  the  robustness  of  the                                                               
transmission system, which  will involve significant expenditures                                                               
from  ratepayers,  the  state, and  the  federal  government.  He                                                               
emphasized   the  importance   of  ensuring   that  these   large                                                               
investments  provide the  greatest  value  for Alaska  consumers.                                                               
While there is a  strong reason to focus on this  now, due to the                                                               
new transmission  projects, he suggested that  the current system                                                               
of wheeling  charges should  be fixed and  eliminated even  if no                                                               
new transmission were ever built.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:50:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked if  SB 217 would  create a  structure where                                                               
wheeling rates  are eliminated for  transmission. He  inquired if                                                               
the bill mandates that, in the  absence of federal funds, any new                                                               
transmission built  will have  its rates  evaluated at  a system-                                                               
wide  level,  ensuring  that the  transmission  cost  is  uniform                                                               
regardless  of where  electricity  enters the  grid. He  wondered                                                               
whether this approach is necessary  even without federal funding,                                                               
to ensure an equal transmission rate across the system.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:51:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT  replied that the legislation  would eliminate wheeling                                                               
rates  entirely. Instead  of a  unified transmission  charge, the                                                               
bill proposes  that transmission  costs be allocated  directly on                                                               
an annual basis to each  load-serving entity. At the beginning of                                                               
each  year,   each  utility  would   receive  a  bill   from  the                                                               
association  detailing  their transmission  cost  responsibility,                                                               
such as $25 million for one  utility and $35 million for another.                                                               
These costs would then be  recovered from the load customers. For                                                               
example, Chugach would receive a  bill for its total transmission                                                               
cost responsibility and  would recover these costs  from its load                                                               
customers.   This  would   replace  the   current  system   where                                                               
transmission costs are  embedded in energy and  demand charges on                                                               
customer bills, even though no  separate transmission charges are                                                               
itemized. The  issue with  the current system  is not  that third                                                               
parties  contribute,   but  how  they  contribute.   The  $1  per                                                               
kilowatt-hour or cents per kilowatt-hour  wheeling charges act as                                                               
a tax on the movement of electricity.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:53:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT moved to slide 4 and spoke to the new freeway system:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 217 Eliminates wheeling rates                                                                                         
     (Creates a new "freeway" system)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
     Steps                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
             1. Adds up all transmission system costs                                                                           
               ("ownership")                                                                                                    
             2. Allocates those costs on an annual lump-sum                                                                     
               basis to each loadserving entity (i.e.                                                                           
               utilities) based on their proportionate load                                                                     
               ("cost responsibility")                                                                                          
             3. Utilities then recover those costs from                                                                         
               their rate-payers                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT  noted that all  transmission system costs  would first                                                               
be pooled  into a single bucket.  The total costs in  this bucket                                                               
would then  be apportioned to  each load-serving  utility, though                                                               
the exact  method for  proportionality is  not fully  detailed in                                                               
the legislation. SB  217 would direct the  commission to allocate                                                               
costs   based  on   each   utility's  proportionate   electricity                                                               
consumption relative  to the total system  consumption. Every end                                                               
user  benefits  from being  part  of  an integrated  grid,  which                                                               
enhances reliability and  provides opportunities for transactions                                                               
that improve  ratepayer value.  In the  final step,  each utility                                                               
would  recover  its allocated  transmission  costs  from its  own                                                               
customers.  Essentially,  this   replaces  the  per-kilowatt-hour                                                               
wheeling  charge for  electricity movement  with a  per-kilowatt-                                                               
hour  charge included  in the  utility's overall  billing to  its                                                               
ratepayers.  The  rate  may  vary   depending  on  how  the  cost                                                               
responsibility is ultimately apportioned.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP  asked  for an  explanation  of  the  difference                                                               
between ownership and cost responsibility.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:56:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT  replied that the  percentages shown for  ownership and                                                               
cost responsibility are hypothetical, as  he did not have time to                                                               
review filings for the current  actual numbers. He explained that                                                               
entities like  AEA, Chugach,  MEA, Golden  Valley, and  Homer own                                                               
various  transmission assets,  such as  the Alaska  Intertie. The                                                               
costs  associated  with  owning  these  assets  include  interest                                                               
payments,  depreciation,  and  operation  and  maintenance  (O&M)                                                               
expenses.  These  ownership costs  make  up  the annual  cost  of                                                               
maintaining  the  assets.  If  SB   217  becomes  law,  the  cost                                                               
responsibility for the entire system  would be allocated based on                                                               
percentages  determined through  a  regulatory proceeding.  These                                                               
percentages  would  be  based  on load  ratio  shares  and  other                                                               
factors reviewed during the regulatory process.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:58:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT  moved to slide  5 and  spoke to the  transmission cost                                                               
allocation approach:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 217 Transmission Cost Allocation Approach                                                                             
        • An "Association" made up of all transmission-                                                                         
          owning entities calculates total system ownership                                                                     
          costs and files a tariff to be regulated by the                                                                       
          RCA                                                                                                                   
        • The "Association" is essentially an accounting                                                                        
          construct   established   to   manage   the   cost                                                                    
          allocation process                                                                                                    
        • Alaska's telecom industry employs a similar kind                                                                      
          of association currently  the Alaska Exchange                                                                         
          Carriers Association (AECA)      created via AS                                                                       
          42.05.850                                                                                                             
        • AECA has just one paid employee                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT addressed the cost  allocation process and ownership of                                                               
the  transmission tariff  under  SB 217.  He  clarified that  the                                                               
tariff would  not be  levied on a  cents per  kilowatt-hour basis                                                               
but  as a  lump sum  to each  utility, which  would then  recover                                                               
these costs from their customers.  The proposed association would                                                               
comprise  all  transmission-owning  entities. Although  it  might                                                               
initially  seem  intimidating,  he   likened  it  to  the  Alaska                                                               
Exchange  Carriers  Association   (AECA),  established  under  AS                                                               
42.05.850.  AECA,  an  industry association  of  intra-state  and                                                               
interstate inter-exchange  carriers, performs a similar  cost and                                                               
revenue  allocation  exercise.  He  noted  that  AECA's  role  is                                                               
essentially   an  accounting   exercise   managed  with   minimal                                                               
overhead, as it operates with  just one employee and files annual                                                               
tariffs with  the Commission. The  members, who are  the affected                                                               
inter-exchange carriers,  handle the necessary  accounting tasks.                                                               
He  emphasized that  the  intent behind  SB 217  is  to create  a                                                               
straightforward,    low-overhead    organization    focused    on                                                               
bookkeeping, similar to AECA.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:01:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT moved to slide 6 and spoke to the taxation process:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
    SB   217   Addresses   Inequitable   Tax   Burden   For                                                                   
     Independent Power Producers (IPP)                                                                                        
        • Municipal and Cooperative Electric utilities are                                                                      
          exempt from state income and local property taxes                                                                     
        • This helps ensure lowest cost of energy, as                                                                           
          property taxes are passed along to consumers in                                                                       
          their utility rates                                                                                                   
        • IPPs must recover all costs in the rates they                                                                         
          negotiate   with    purchasing   cooperatives   or                                                                    
          municipal utilities                                                                                                   
        • Property taxes can be a very substantial portion                                                                      
          of those rates                                                                                                        
        • Existing property tax rates can and do prevent                                                                        
          IPP projects from progressing, which ultimately                                                                       
          impact ratepayer costs                                                                                                
        • No property taxes can be collected from unbuilt                                                                       
          or failed power projects                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT  said that municipally or  cooperatively owned electric                                                               
utilities are  exempt from  state income  tax and  local property                                                               
taxes.  The policy  rationale is  that without  these exemptions,                                                               
such  taxes  would  be  passed on  to  consumers  through  higher                                                               
utility rates. Independent power  producers (IPPs), however, must                                                               
recover all  their costs  through the  rates they  negotiate with                                                               
purchasing cooperatives  and municipalities. This means  that any                                                               
taxes  imposed  on  IPPs can  significantly  increase  the  rates                                                               
charged   to   consumers,   potentially  making   some   projects                                                               
economically  unfeasible. This  creates an  uneven playing  field                                                               
that  can  hinder  project   development  and  negatively  impact                                                               
ratepayers in two ways: by  increasing costs for projects that do                                                               
proceed and  by preventing many  projects from moving  forward at                                                               
all.  MR. SCOTT  suggested that  if  it is  reasonable to  exempt                                                               
cooperatives  from property  taxes  on their  own generation  and                                                               
transmission  assets, it  would also  make sense  to extend  this                                                               
exemption   to  IPPs   selling  power   to  cooperatively   owned                                                               
utilities. Addressing  both issues would alleviate  a significant                                                               
burden on  project development in  the state,  delivering greater                                                               
value to  consumers, creating jobs,  and fostering a  more robust                                                               
state economy.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:04:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  concluded invited  testimony and  opened public                                                               
testimony on SB 217.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:04:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MATTHEW PERKINS, representing  self, Anchorage, Alaska, testified                                                               
in support of SB 217. He  introduced himself as the CEO of Alaska                                                               
Renewables  and said  the  company is  working  on several  large                                                               
power plants aimed at providing  low-cost, reliable energy to the                                                               
Railbelt. He  sought support for two  critical policies: property                                                               
tax  exemptions for  independent power  producers (IPPs)  and the                                                               
elimination of  tariffs between  electric cooperatives  and IPPs.                                                               
These  changes  would  help  reduce  rates,  remove  barriers  to                                                               
collaboration, and  increase competition. The  difference between                                                               
export resource  financing and  domestic renewable  energy market                                                               
financing. IPP contracts are  structured as long-term fixed-price                                                               
agreements with  financial inputs contracted upfront,  making any                                                               
taxes  a  pass-through  cost  to consumers.  He  also  noted  the                                                               
importance   of   removing   barriers  to   collaboration   among                                                               
utilities, citing the  pooling of projects like  Shovel Creek and                                                               
Little  Mount  Susitna as  an  example  that could  significantly                                                               
reduce no-wind periods. He raised  concerns about specific issues                                                               
in  the  bill's  wording:  a   redundant  tax  on  kilowatt-hours                                                               
generated  by  IPPs  and  ambiguity   regarding  the  removal  of                                                               
wheeling  rates.  He  requested  support  for  these  free-market                                                               
principles  and limited  government intervention,  and asked  for                                                               
amendments to  the bill  to eliminate the  double tax  and ensure                                                               
the full removal of wheeling tariffs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN asked  that  Mr. Perkins  be  allowed to  briefly                                                               
address Senator Wielechowski's question.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PERKINS  said that  in  response  to Senator  Wielechowski's                                                               
question about the benefits to  Chugach's members or any electric                                                               
cooperative  members,  the  numbers  are  indeed  calculable.  He                                                               
mentioned that  he is working  with the dispatch  and engineering                                                               
teams  to determine  specifics.  He emphasized  that the  broader                                                               
economic  benefit  comes  from   allowing  more  arbitrage  among                                                               
markets, aligning  with fundamental  free market  principles. The                                                               
benefit, as  shown by  their modeling  and other  reviewed models                                                               
related to energy on the  Railbelt, is significantly greater than                                                               
minor differences in  individual gains, such as  one group making                                                               
10 cents versus  another making 11 cents. In  response to Senator                                                               
Claman's question about transmission  costs, he explained that it                                                               
is most  likely that  for each  project, transmission  lines will                                                               
need to  be built, increasing  the associated costs.  These costs                                                               
would be  included in  the total  Power Purchase  Agreement (PPA)                                                               
for the project and recovered  through the sale of electricity to                                                               
participating utilities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:09:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR   BISHOP  asked   if  he   is   referring  to   building                                                               
transmission lines, meaning constructing  a line from the project                                                               
to the substation.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. PERKINS replied yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:09:37 PM                                                                                                                    
PENNY GAGE,  representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
support  of  SB  217.  She introduced  herself  as  the  Managing                                                               
Director for  Launch Alaska, a nonprofit  focused on accelerating                                                               
the  energy transition  by  integrating  the latest  technologies                                                               
into  Alaska's energy,  transportation,  and industrial  sectors.                                                               
Launch Alaska  works with  a portfolio  of 32  for-profit startup                                                               
companies from  around the  world, addressing  climate challenges                                                               
and  creating economic  opportunities  in  Alaska. She  expressed                                                               
support for SB  217, particularly the provision  that would grant                                                               
independent power  producers (IPPs) the same  local tax exemption                                                               
received  by non-profit  electric cooperatives.  Gage noted  that                                                               
Launch  Alaska's CEO,  Isaac Vanderburgh,  who  was appointed  by                                                               
Governor Dunleavy to  the Alaska Energy Security  Task Force, co-                                                               
chaired  the  incentives  and subsidies  subcommittee.  This  tax                                                               
provision change was a key  recommendation in the final report of                                                               
that task force, which Mr.  Vanderburgh championed. The provision                                                               
would  attract private  investment,  support energy  development,                                                               
and  lower energy  costs for  Alaskans. However,  according to  a                                                               
Department  of Energy  (DOE) report,  less than  five percent  of                                                               
Alaska's electricity  is generated by  IPPs, compared to  over 40                                                               
percent in lower  48 states. SB 217 would send  a positive market                                                               
signal to investors and developers,  accelerate the deployment of                                                               
low-cost  renewable energy,  level the  playing field,  diversify                                                               
the electricity mix, and support job creation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:12:06 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUG JOHNSON, representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska, testified in                                                               
support  of SB  217. He  introduced  himself as  the Director  of                                                               
Development  for  Ocean  Renewable  Power Company  and  said  the                                                               
company  has  been  actively  developing  hydrokinetic  power  in                                                               
Alaska since  2006. SB 217  would provide a  thoughtful, elegant,                                                               
and  workable solution  to  two key  problems  facing the  energy                                                               
industry.  The  first problem  as  the  inequity in  taxation  of                                                               
independent  power producers  (IPPs),  requiring the  need for  a                                                               
level playing field for all  power producers. The second issue is                                                               
the  application  of wheeling  charges  across  the Railbelt.  He                                                               
highlighted the  need for a  standardized and  proportionate cost                                                               
recovery mechanism  as envisioned  in SB 217.  The bill  offers a                                                               
straightforward approach to  addressing these industry challenges                                                               
in  Alaska. He  expressed a  desire for  the swift  resolution of                                                               
these  issues through  the  passage of  SB  217, emphasizing  its                                                               
critical importance to the future of the emerging industry.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:13:46 PM                                                                                                                    
KEN  HUCKEBA, representing  self, Wasilla,  Alaska, testified  in                                                               
opposition to SB  217. He stated that much of  the support for SB
217 is based  on fictitious claims. He characterized  the bill as                                                               
a 'gold  rush grab'  for Inflation Reduction  Act (IRA)  funds by                                                               
opportunists seeking to advance the  transition to green New Deal                                                               
policies.  SB  217  focuses solely  on  eliminating  transmission                                                               
charges,  particularly  benefiting  independent  power  producers                                                               
(IPPs) of  solar and wind  energy. However, he argued  that these                                                               
energy  sources are  unreliable, with  wind farms  producing only                                                               
around  30  percent of  their  capacity  even  on good  days.  On                                                               
windless,   snow-covered    days,   they    contribute   nothing,                                                               
exacerbating  costs for  utilities and  ratepayers who  must back                                                               
them up  with reliable power  sources. Existing  utilities, owned                                                               
by ratepayers  and cooperatives,  are forced  to cover  the costs                                                               
associated with  the poor performance  of these  renewable energy                                                               
sources.  He criticized  the bill  for allowing  IPPs to  operate                                                               
without contributing  to the costs  of maintaining  and upgrading                                                               
the  legacy energy  system. The  tax savings  touted by  the bill                                                               
come from  taxpayers and  existing infrastructure  owners, rather                                                               
than some  external source. He  rejected the idea  that renewable                                                               
energy sources are truly lower  in cost. Their affordability is a                                                               
result  of  subsidies   and  the  absence  of   charges  for  the                                                               
additional impacts they cause. He  described SB 217 as a takeover                                                               
of infrastructure  by special interests.  He also  criticized the                                                               
use of the term 'stakeholders,'  asserting that these entities do                                                               
not represent  ratepayers or  taxpayers. The  United States  is a                                                               
representative republic  that should prioritize the  interests of                                                               
its citizens, not special interest groups or nonprofit NGOs.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:16:27 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID BRAILEY, representing self,  Eagle River, Alaska, testified                                                               
in support of  SB 217. He noted  that he is one of  the owners of                                                               
the Juniper  Creek hydroelectric  system in  Eagle River,  a 300-                                                               
kilowatt facility with  a 60 percent capacity  factor, meaning it                                                               
operates  at   full  capacity   60  percent   of  the   year.  He                                                               
acknowledged  that he  could not  improve on  former Commissioner                                                               
Scott's explanation of  why the bill is beneficial  for the grid,                                                               
independent power  producers, and ratepayers. He  emphasized that                                                               
because the  bill is good  for ratepayers, it is  also beneficial                                                               
for cooperative utilities. He shared  his experience, noting that                                                               
he has been working on his  project for about 13 years, though it                                                               
has  not  produced  electricity  for the  past  three  years.  He                                                               
expressed that  the Alaska rail  belt market  is one of  the most                                                               
disadvantageous  for independent  power producers  in the  United                                                               
States.  He believes  that SB  217 would  help level  the playing                                                               
field between independent power  producers and utilities, turning                                                               
things around in favor of a more balanced energy market.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:18:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked what  recommendations could be made to                                                               
improve  the  situation  so  that  the  state  is  more  open  to                                                               
independent power  producers (IPPs)  and other  potential utility                                                               
generation options.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BRAILEY replied  that Alaska's  Railbelt is  one of  the few                                                               
places  in  the United  States  where  capacity has  zero  value,                                                               
despite being allowed  by regulation. He noted  that no renewable                                                               
energy  producer or  independent  power producer  (IPP) has  ever                                                               
been paid  for capacity  in the  Alaska Railbelt.  Zero emissions                                                               
have no  value in  Alaska, as  there is  no market  for renewable                                                               
energy credits.  He explained that all  power purchase agreements                                                               
between IPPs and utilities in the  state require the IPPs to give                                                               
away  at least  50  percent  to 100  percent  of their  renewable                                                               
energy credits. He  questioned why a private  business would give                                                               
away  something of  value  and explained  that  the condition  of                                                               
interconnection,   particularly  with   his  utility,   Matanuska                                                               
Electric,  forces  the  IPP  to  cover  all  interconnection  and                                                               
integration costs,  including building the  interconnecting power                                                               
line. Despite these costs, the  utility still takes the renewable                                                               
energy credit. He described the  situation as a monopsony system,                                                               
where utilities hold all the cards.  If an IPP disagrees with the                                                               
terms of the agreement, they are  told to find another buyer, but                                                               
that option is blocked by  pancaking charges that prevent selling                                                               
to  another  utility.  The  system  is rigged  in  favor  of  the                                                               
utilities.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:20:41 PM                                                                                                                    
JENN  MILLER, representing  self, Houston,  Alaska, testified  in                                                               
support of  SB 217. She stated  that she is the  CEO of Renewable                                                               
IPP,  an  Alaska-grown  small  business  focused  on  developing,                                                               
constructing, and operating renewable  energy projects in Alaska.                                                               
She mentioned their Willow and  Houston projects and spoke to the                                                               
company's  dual  commitment  to advancing  renewable  energy  and                                                               
suppressing  energy prices  for Alaskans.  She said  she recently                                                               
served  on  the  governing  Energy  Security  Task  Force,  which                                                               
aligned  with  their  mission  to  diversify  energy  generation,                                                               
improve  affordability,  and  maintain  reliability.  Independent                                                               
power   producers   (IPPs)   play   a  crucial   role   in   this                                                               
diversification   and    affordability,   while    also   meeting                                                               
reliability standards.  For their projects to  advance, they must                                                               
agree  on power  purchase  agreements with  utilities and  remain                                                               
competitive with  current generation  costs. The  Houston project                                                               
is  currently  10  to  20  percent below  the  existing  cost  of                                                               
generation, making  it essential to  have a level  playing field.                                                               
SB  217 would  equalize their  cost base  by addressing  property                                                               
taxes and  eliminating pancaking charges. This  would help reduce                                                               
their  power  purchase  prices  and, in  turn,  lower  costs  for                                                               
utility members.  Additionally, having an established  tax policy                                                               
for IPPs  would reduce uncertainty for  investors and incentivize                                                               
private investment in new generation  projects. This would aid in                                                               
deploying  various energy  sources,  including  wind, solar,  and                                                               
hydro,  contributing   to  a  more  stable   energy  supply.  She                                                               
emphasized  the  urgency  of passing  this  bill  to  incorporate                                                               
reduced cost bases into power  purchase agreements and pass those                                                               
savings onto members.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:24:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL closed public testimony on SB 217.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:24:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL held SB 217 in committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Alaska Energy Authority (AEA)                                                                                    
         PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY (AEA)                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:24:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL announced the consideration of a presentation                                                                  
by Alaska Energy Authority (AEA).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:25:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CURTIS THAYER, Executive Director, Alaska Energy Authority                                                                      
(AEA), Anchorage, Alaska, moved to slide 2 and presented an                                                                     
overview of AEA:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     About AEA                                                                                                                
     AEA's  mission  is to  reduce  the  cost of  energy  in                                                                    
     Alaska.  To  achieve  this   mission,  AEA  strives  to                                                                    
     diversify  Alaska's   energy  portfolio      increasing                                                                    
     resiliency, reliability, and redundancy.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Railbelt   Energy  -   AEA   owns   the  Bradley   Lake                                                                  
     Hydroelectric  Project, the  Alaska  Intertie, and  the                                                                    
     Sterling  to Quartz  Creek Transmission  Line    all of                                                                    
     which benefit  Railbelt consumers by reducing  the cost                                                                    
     of power.                                                                                                                  
     Power Cost  Equalization (PCR) -  PCE reduces  the cost                                                                  
     of   electricity  in   rural  Alaska   for  residential                                                                    
     customers and community  facilities, which helps ensure                                                                    
     the sustainability of centralized power.                                                                                   
     Rural  Energy -  AEA constructs  bulk fuel  tank farms,                                                                  
     diesel powerhouses,  and electrical  distribution grids                                                                    
     in rural villages. AEA supports  the operation of these                                                                    
     facilities   through   circuit  rider   and   emergency                                                                    
     response programs.                                                                                                         
     Renewable Energy  and Energy Efficiency -  AEA provides                                                                  
     funding,   technical   assistance,  and   analysis   on                                                                    
     alternative  energy technologies  to benefit  Alaskans.                                                                    
     These include biomass, hydro, solar, wind, and others.                                                                     
     Grants  and  Loans  -  AEA   provides  loans  to  local                                                                  
     utilities,  local  governments, and  independent  power                                                                    
       producers for the construction or upgrade of power                                                                       
     generation and other energy facilities.                                                                                    
     Energy  Planning  -  In collaboration  with  local  and                                                                  
     regional   partners,   AEA    provides   economic   and                                                                    
     engineering analysis  to plan the development  of cost-                                                                    
     effective energy infrastructure.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER stated  that  Alaska's  Railbelt is  one  of the  few                                                               
places  in  the United  States  where  capacity has  zero  value,                                                               
despite being allowed  by regulation. He noted  that no renewable                                                               
energy  producer or  independent  power producer  (IPP) has  ever                                                               
been paid  for capacity  in the  Alaska Railbelt.  Zero emissions                                                               
have  no value  in Alaska  due  to the  absence of  a market  for                                                               
renewable energy  credits. He explained  that all  power purchase                                                               
agreements between  IPPs and utilities  in the state  require the                                                               
IPPs to  give away at  least 50 percent  to 100 percent  of their                                                               
renewable energy  credits. He questioned  why a  private business                                                               
would  give  away  something  of value  and  explained  that  the                                                               
condition  of  interconnection,  particularly with  his  utility,                                                               
Matanuska Electric,  forces the IPP to  cover all interconnection                                                               
and  integration costs,  including  building the  interconnecting                                                               
power  line. Despite  these costs,  the utility  still takes  the                                                               
renewable  energy  credit.  He   described  the  situation  as  a                                                               
monopsony system, where  utilities hold all the cards.  If an IPP                                                               
disagrees with the terms of the  agreement, they are told to find                                                               
another buyer,  but that option  is blocked by  pancaking charges                                                               
that prevent selling to another  utility. The system is rigged in                                                               
favor of the utilities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:28:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 3  depicting a map that illustrates all                                                               
the projects  AEA operates  across Alaska for  a specific  day or                                                               
month, highlighting both the Railbelt region and rural areas.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:29:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER moved  to slide  4  and explained  the Alaska  Energy                                                               
Security Task Force:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Energy Security Task Force                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     60+                                                                                                                      
     Subcommittee Meetings                                                                                                      
     11                                                                                                                       
     Task Force Meetings                                                                                                        
     150+                                                                                                                     
     Hours of Public Meetings                                                                                                   
     8                                                                                                                        
     Energy Symposiums with 16 hours of OnDemand learning                                                                       
     6                                                                                                                        
     Subcommittees have created over 60 preliminary actions                                                                     
     for considerations:                                                                                                        
        • Railbelt Transmission, Generation, and Storage                                                                        
        • Coastal Generation, Distribution, and Storage                                                                         
        • Rural Generation, Distribution, and Storage                                                                           
        • State Energy Data                                                                                                     
        • Incentives and Subsidies                                                                                              
        • Statutes and Regulations                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER stated  that the task force, convened  by the governor                                                               
and chaired by the Lieutenant Governor  with him serving as a co-                                                               
chair, included  notable members such  as Jen Miller  and Senator                                                               
Bishop. The University facilitated  16 hours of energy symposiums                                                               
that  offered  educational  sessions  on  topics  including  PCE,                                                               
hydro,  and nuclear  energy.  He  noted that  while  there is  no                                                               
single  solution for  Alaska's energy  challenges, the  ideas and                                                               
concepts   from   the   task  force   have   influenced   current                                                               
legislation, including SB 217,  reflecting a collaborative effort                                                               
to address diverse energy needs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER moved  to  slide  6 and  described  the Bradley  Lake                                                               
Hydroelectric project:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
        • Bradley Lake is Alaska's largest source of                                                                          
          renewable energy.  Energized in 1991,  the project                                                                  
          is  situated 27.notdefair miles northeast of Homer on                                                                 
          the Kenai Peninsula.                                                                                                  
        • The 120 MW facility provides low-cost energy to                                                                     
          550,000+ members on the Railbelt.                                                                                   
        • Bradley Lake's annual energy production is ~10                                                                      
          percent of  Railbelt electricity at  4.5 cents/kWh                                                                    
          (or ~54,400  homes/year) and  over $20  million in                                                                    
          savings  per  year   to  Railbelt  utilities  from                                                                    
          Bradley Lake versus natural gas.                                                                                      
        • AEA, in partnership with the Railbelt utilities,                                                                      
          is  studying  the  Dixon Diversion  Project  which                                                                  
          would  increase the  annual  energy production  of                                                                    
          Bradley Lake by 50 percent  or the equivalent of                                                                      
          14,000-28,000 homes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     CAPACITY: 120MW                                                                                                          
        • Bradley Lake generators are rated to produce up                                                                       
          to 120 MW of power                                                                                                    
     ENERGY: 10 percent                                                                                                       
        • Bradley Lake generates about 10 percent of the                                                                        
          total annual electrical energy sued by Railbelt                                                                       
          electrical utilities                                                                                                  
     GENERATION COST PER KWH: $0.04                                                                                           
        • From 1995 through 2023 the project averaged                                                                           
          390,000 MWh of energy production annually at                                                                          
          $0.04 per kWh.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER noted that the  Dixon Diversion project would displace                                                               
1.5 billion  cubic feet  of natural  gas, or  7.5 percent  of the                                                               
unmet needs by 2030.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:32:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked when the  Dixon Diversion project would be                                                               
completed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:32:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER replied  that AEA is conducting the  field season this                                                               
year  and  potentially  into  next   year.  He  anticipated  that                                                               
construction  could begin  as  early as  2026,  with a  projected                                                               
completion in 2030.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:32:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   KAWASAKI   asked    whether   there   are   maintenance                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER  said that  the  Bradley  Lake Management  Committee,                                                               
consisting  of the  CEOs of  each of  the Railbelt  utilities and                                                               
AEA, oversees  the management of  the Bradley Lake  facility. The                                                               
utilities  handle  the operation  and  maintenance  (O&M) of  the                                                               
facility  through Homer  Electric.  Bradley  Lake, a  32-year-old                                                               
facility designed  for a  100-year lifespan,  is well-maintained.                                                               
Recent  work  included  a comprehensive  maintenance  review  and                                                               
turbine overhaul, and the facility continues to perform well.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  noted that  Juneau power  is sourced  from 100-                                                               
year-old dams.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:34:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked if the  Dixon diversion project is confirmed                                                               
to proceed.  He inquired whether  a final decision has  been made                                                               
or if  it is still  under study.  He wondered about  the timeline                                                               
for construction.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:34:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER replied  that the  Dixon diversion  project is  still                                                               
under  study and  is approximately  18 months  away from  a final                                                               
decision. He explained that the  environmental studies related to                                                               
the   Federal  Energy   Regulatory   Commission  (FERC)   license                                                               
amendment are  ongoing, and no  issues have been  identified thus                                                               
far. Regarding  construction costs,  he noted that  the estimated                                                               
cost  has  been  reduced.  Initially,   a  14-foot  borehole  was                                                               
planned,  but testing  indicated  more seasonal  water flow  than                                                               
expected,  allowing  for  an increase  in  the  facility's  size.                                                               
Additionally, the need  for a road to the dam  diversion has been                                                               
eliminated  since the  area is  snow-covered for  seven months  a                                                               
year; a helicopter  can be used instead.  The utilities' modeling                                                               
suggests  that the  project can  be built  at a  lower cost  than                                                               
producing power  from natural  gas, and  with rising  natural gas                                                               
prices, the  project appears promising. Further  testing and work                                                               
will continue this summer.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:35:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  inquired  about  funding  sources  assuming  the                                                               
project moves forward.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER stated  that  one potential  funding  method for  the                                                               
Dixon  diversion  project  is  revenue  bonds,  which  AEA  could                                                               
utilize  based  on  a  power  sales agreement  for  the  sale  of                                                               
electricity. This  approach is  similar to  how Bradley  Lake was                                                               
financed.  Additionally,  there  is  a  federal  grant  available                                                               
through the EPA for up to  $342 million, which AEA plans to apply                                                               
for. Although this  grant is considered a long shot  and does not                                                               
require  a state  match,  AEA is  pursuing it  as  an option.  He                                                               
reiterated  that the  most straightforward  approach remains  the                                                               
power sales agreement.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:36:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  commented  that   he  hopes  the  federal  grant                                                               
application is not merely a "Hail Mary."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:36:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER replied that there  is a competitive process for those                                                               
federal dollars.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:36:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP acknowledged  the potential  impact of  the data                                                               
presented. He highlighted  that with 120 megawatts  (MW) from the                                                               
project,  it represents  10 percent  of  the total  power on  the                                                               
Railbelt. If  Susitna were utilized,  it could increase to  up to                                                               
70 percent, potentially replacing  all the gas-generated power on                                                               
the Railbelt.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:37:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER replied that is correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:37:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 7 and highlighted the Alaska Intertie:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Intertie                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
        • AEA    owns   the    170-mile   Alaska    Intertie                                                                  
          transmission  line that  runs  between Willow  and                                                                  
          Healy.  The  line  operates  at  138  kV  (it  was                                                                  
          designed to  operate at 345  kV) and  includes 850                                                                    
          structures.                                                                                                         
        • A vital section of the Railbelt transmission                                                                        
          system,  the   Intertie  is  the  only   link  for                                                                  
          transferring power  between northern  and southern                                                                    
          utilities.                                                                                                          
        • The Intertie transmits power north into the                                                                           
          Golden Valley  Electric Association  (GVEA) system                                                                    
          and  provides  Interior customers  with  low-cost,                                                                    
          reliable  power     between  2006  and  2023,  the                                                                    
          Intertie saved  GVEA customers  an average  of $36                                                                  
          million annually.                                                                                                   
        • The Intertie provides benefits to Southcentral                                                                        
          customers  as   well  through  cost   savings  and                                                                  
          resilience to unexpected events.                                                                                    
        • Constructed in the mid.notdef1980s with $124 million in                                                               
          State of  Alaska appropriations, there is  no debt                                                                    
          associated with the Alaska Intertie.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  noted that noted  that the Alaska  Intertie, spanning                                                               
170 miles  from Windward  to Healy, was  constructed in  the mid-                                                               
1980s  to  connect  South Central  Alaska  with  Fairbanks.  This                                                               
intertie enables  Fairbanks to  purchase power  more economically                                                               
from the  Railbelt, resulting in annual  savings of approximately                                                               
$36 million for Bonavista customers.  The intertie benefits South                                                               
Central customers  through cost savings and  increased resilience                                                               
during  unexpected  events,  such   as  severe  cold  weather  in                                                               
January.  He  emphasized  the  need   for  modernization  of  the                                                               
transmission  infrastructure.   The  SSQ  line,   which  includes                                                               
Sterling, Scott,  and Port St.  Peninsula, was built in  1969 and                                                               
has  not  been updated  since.  Currently,  it supports  only  75                                                               
megawatts, while  Bradley's 120-megawatt power plant  operates at                                                               
full capacity.  To accommodate additional renewable  sources such                                                               
as solar, wind,  or tidal energy, the transmission  lines must be                                                               
upgraded to handle the increased load.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
4:38:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved  to slide 8 and explained the  need to modernize                                                               
the Railbelt Transmission system:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Railbelt    Transmission    System    Urgently    Needs                                                                  
     Modernization                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     The majority  of the  Railbelt transmission  system was                                                                    
     constructed over  40 years ago. A  resilient, reliable,                                                                    
     and redundant Railbelt transmission  system is not only                                                                    
     achievable  but also  necessary  to  create the  needed                                                                    
     capacity  to integrate  additional renewable  energy in                                                                    
     the future.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Grid Forming                                                                                                             
     A grid with alternate  paths will increase reliability,                                                                    
     resiliency, and fuel diversification.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Fuel Savings                                                                                                             
     Upgrades and alternate paths will reduce line losses.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Energy Security                                                                                                          
     Natural or  other events can isolate  cities or regions                                                                    
     from energy                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Generation Changes                                                                                                       
     New  renewable  energy  projects  are  not  located  in                                                                    
     existing  cities.  New   transmission  to  connect  new                                                                    
     renewable  projects to  existing transmission  paid for                                                                    
     by  projects. However,  existing  transmission must  be                                                                    
     upgraded  to   transmit  energy  to  and   between  the                                                                    
     Railbelt regions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  said that there  is an urgent need  to modernize                                                                    
the transmission  system, particularly  the SSQ  line, which                                                                    
includes  Sterling,  Scott,  and Port  St.  Peninsula.  This                                                                    
line,  built  in  1969,  has  not  been  updated  since  its                                                                    
construction.   Currently,  the   line   supports  only   75                                                                    
megawatts,  while Bradley's  power  plant  operates at  full                                                                    
capacity  with   120  megawatts.  To   integrate  additional                                                                    
renewable sources such as solar,  wind, or tidal energy, the                                                                    
state must  upgrade the  transmission lines.  He spoke  to a                                                                    
photo  showing  part  of  the  SSQ  line,  which  depicts  a                                                                    
helicopter removing an  old pole; part of  an agreement with                                                                    
Alaska Fish and  Wildlife when the line was  purchased. As a                                                                    
commitment  to being  good neighbors,  the line  was removed                                                                    
within two years of the  agreement, even though the deadline                                                                    
was set  for five years. This  demonstrates AEA's dedication                                                                    
to   maintaining  positive   relations  and   ensuring  that                                                                    
upgrades are well-regarded by all stakeholders.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:39:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 9 and elaborated on GRIP funding:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Grid  Resilience  and Innovation  Partnerships  (GRIP):                                                                  
     HDVC Line                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     $413 Million (206.5 Million  Federal and $206.5 Million                                                                    
     Alaska Match)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AEA secured $206.5 million for  GRIP Topic Area 3: Grid                                                                    
     Innovation  through  the  United States  Department  of                                                                    
     Energy's Grid  Deployment Office.  A cost share  of 100                                                                    
     percent,  or $206.5  million, is  required for  a total                                                                    
     project   amount   of   $413  million.   The   Railbelt                                                                    
     Innovation Resiliency  project will construct a  high -                                                                    
     voltage direct current (HDVC)  submarine cable to serve                                                                    
     as  a  parallel  transmission   route  from  the  Kenai                                                                    
     Peninsula  to   Anchorage,  creating  a   much  -needed                                                                    
     redundant system in case of disruptive events.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Anticipated outcomes and benefits include:                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     Increases  transfer   capacity  between   regions  that                                                                    
     enables  higher renewable  energy integration  into the                                                                    
     electricity system.                                                                                                      
     Improves  resilience  and  reliability for  tribal  and                                                                    
     disadvantaged communities  in the Railbelt  region, and                                                                    
     a reduction in reliance on fossil fuel generation and                                                                      
     associated emissions.                                                                                                    
       Supports the retention of high-quality jobs in the                                                                       
    region,   including   650   highly   paid   jobs   with                                                                     
     competitive employer -sponsored benefits.                                                                                
       Creates apprenticeship and internship programs to                                                                        
     train a new generation of line workers and wireworkers                                                                     
     to reinvigorate Alaska's energy workforce.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  said that  the major  focus is  on the  GRIP funding,                                                               
which aims to  install a High Voltage Direct  Current (HVDC) line                                                               
from Kenai  to Beluga,  crossing beneath  Cook Inlet.  This line,                                                               
highlighted by  the broken yellow  line on  the map, has  a total                                                               
projected cost of $413 million,  with $206.5 million covered by a                                                               
federal grant and  an equal amount required as a  cost match from                                                               
other  sources.  The  initial  and most  critical  phase  of  the                                                               
project  involves the  HVDC line,  which  will provide  essential                                                               
redundancy. In contrast to the  lower 48 states, where redundancy                                                               
requirements  are  more stringent,  we  have  been relying  on  a                                                               
single line  for over  40 years. For  example, during  the recent                                                               
SSQ  line  fire, power  was  cut  off  for four  months,  costing                                                               
northern  utilities   an  additional  $12  million   due  to  the                                                               
inability  of   existing  infrastructure  to  handle   the  load.                                                               
Similarly,  during  recent  winter  storms,  a  week-long  outage                                                               
between Goodwood and Whittier  highlighted the vulnerabilities of                                                               
our current system.  The HVDC line is crucial  for improving grid                                                               
resilience.   In  the   GRIP  funding   cycle,  there   were  700                                                               
applications,  and  our project  was  awarded  the fifth  highest                                                               
amount  in  the  nation.  This  success is  a  testament  to  the                                                               
collaborative  effort  of  the  utilities  and  their  collective                                                               
support  for   the  grant  application.  Securing   this  funding                                                               
represents a  significant step  forward, but  AEA still  needs to                                                               
secure the remaining funds to complete the project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:41:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL asked  for  confirmation  of her  understanding                                                               
that it makes that imperative for funding.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:41:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  replied that it  is not  necessary to secure  all the                                                               
funding within the first year.  The Department of Energy requires                                                               
a commitment  to the total  funding but will  match contributions                                                               
as  they are  made. For  example, if  we contribute  $20 million,                                                               
they will provide an additional  $20 million. The project follows                                                               
a bell  curve in terms  of funding:  initial costs will  ramp up,                                                               
particularly during  the ordering and construction  phases of the                                                               
HVDC  line, and  then  decrease as  the  project progresses.  The                                                               
project is planned to span  eight years, though there are several                                                               
challenges, including securing a  manufacturer for the HVDC line.                                                               
Only five  companies worldwide can  produce this  technology, and                                                               
we are  competing with  other HVDC  projects both  nationally and                                                               
globally. Despite  these challenges, the  aim is to  complete the                                                               
project within  the eight-year timeframe  unless an  extension is                                                               
mandated by legislative action, which is not the current plan.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:42:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN inquired about the  state match of $206.5 million,                                                               
asking if it  needs to be provided over the  course of the eight-                                                               
year project, rather than in the first year.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:42:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  replied that is correct.  He said the full  amount is                                                               
not  required in  the first  year.  However, by  years three  and                                                               
four, we  will need to reach  peak cash flow levels.  This is due                                                               
to the  requirement to pay  20 percent upfront when  ordering the                                                               
HVDC line, with  the remainder due as  production progresses over                                                               
the following three to four years, given the lead time involved.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL commented that the revenue does not increase.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:43:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked whether the  state is the only  entity that                                                               
can provide  the match,  or if utility  companies could  bond and                                                               
provide the match independently of state funding.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:43:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER replied that the  match simply needs to be identified;                                                               
it  does not  have  to come  solely  from the  state.  It can  be                                                               
comprised of a combination of sources.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:43:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP   noted  concerns   about  the   reliability  of                                                               
legislative  commitments.  He said  his  goal  is to  secure  all                                                               
necessary funding this  year with broad support  to demonstrate a                                                               
strong  commitment   to  upgrading  the  transmission   line.  He                                                               
expressed this  sentiment based on historical  information he has                                                               
shared with his office.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:44:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER expressed his appreciation for that sentiment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:44:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER  moved  to  slide  10 and  elaborated  on  the  Dixon                                                               
Diversion project:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Dixon Diversion Project                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     $5-7  Million   for  Studies   and  $342   Million  for                                                                    
     Construction                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     AEA  is   studying  the  Dixon  Diversion   Project  to                                                                    
     optimize the energy potential  of the AEA-owned Bradley                                                                    
     Lake Hydroelectric  Project. Like  the West  Fork Upper                                                                    
     Battle  Creek Diversion  Project,  the Dixon  Diversion                                                                    
     Project would divert water from  Dixon Glacier in order                                                                    
     to increase Bradley Lake's  annual energy production by                                                                    
     50 percent.                                                                                                                
        • Located five miles from Bradley Lake and would                                                                        
          utilize existing powerhouse at Bradley Lake                                                                           
        • Estimated annual energy 100,000-200,000 MWh                                                                           
          (~24,000-30,000 homes)                                                                                                
        • Estimated to offset 1.5-1.6 billion cubic feet of                                                                     
          natural gas per year in Railbelt power generation                                                                     
          (equal to 7.5 percent of Alaska's unmet natural                                                                       
          gas demand projected for 2030)                                                                                        
        • Estimated completion is 2030                                                                                          
        • *Funding will be used for engineering studies                                                                         
          (feasibility,   hydrological,    geological)   and                                                                    
          environmental studies (fisheries, water quality,                                                                      
          geomorphology).                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  said that  the  Dixon  diversion project,  which  is                                                               
currently underway,  involves several  components visible  on the                                                               
map. The project includes Bradley  Lake (marked in orange), where                                                               
the dam  would be  raised, and the  powerhouse located  above the                                                               
dam. The  Dixon diversion, fed  by Nuka Glacier and  flowing into                                                               
Martin River, is shown as a  hot pink line indicating a five-mile                                                               
diversion from Martin River to  Bradley Lake. This diversion aims                                                               
to raise  the dam  by 14  feet. The  project's estimated  cost is                                                               
$342 million.  The primary  benefit is a  50 percent  increase in                                                               
Bradley  Lake's capacity,  which would  offset 1.5  billion cubic                                                               
feet of natural  gas used in Cook  Inlet. Currently, engineering,                                                               
feasibility,  hydrology,  and  environmental  studies,  including                                                               
fisheries and  water quality assessments, are  in progress. Since                                                               
the project is an amendment to  an existing license rather than a                                                               
new  license,  the  approval process  is  streamlined.  There  is                                                               
consideration of whether the project  could be completed by 2029,                                                               
although the current  target is 2030. Displacing  as much natural                                                               
gas as possible remains a key objective.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:46:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved  to slide 11 and explained  the SSQ transmission                                                               
lines:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       Sterling to Quartz (SSQ) and Soldotna to Sterling                                                                      
     Transmission Lines                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     $90 Million (Under Construction)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     In  2020, AEA  acquired  the SSQ  Transmission Line,  a                                                                    
     critical  component  of   the  interconnected  Railbelt                                                                    
     transmission system on the Kenai  Peninsula, as part of                                                                    
     the Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • Location    39.4 miles of 115 kilovolt (kV)                                                                         
          transmission and out of use 69 kV transmission                                                                        
          from Sterling to Quartz substation (Kenai Lake)                                                                       
        • Benefits    AEA ownership ensures better cost                                                                       
          alignment, increase reliability, and more timely                                                                      
          repairs and upgrades                                                                                                  
        • Status  69 kV line decommissioned & removed.                                                                        
          Engineers   are   designing  and   are   procuring                                                                    
          equipment for  the upgrade of the  existing 115 kV                                                                    
          line to  230 kV. Upgrade will  reduce line losses,                                                                    
          increase line reliability and system resiliency                                                                       
        • Cost  Estimated cost to upgrade line to 230 kV                                                                      
          standards is $63 million for SSQ and $27 million                                                                      
          for Soldotna to Sterling                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER said  the next item is the Sterling  to Port Creek SSQ                                                               
transmission lines, highlighted by the  broken yellow line on the                                                               
map.  This  transmission  line   connects  the  Homer  system  to                                                               
Chugach, which  is currently  upgrading their  system to  230 kV.                                                               
The Sterling to  Port Creek line, however, has  not been upgraded                                                               
in 55 years and is the weakest  link in the system. The map shows                                                               
the two lines  coming out of Homer and the  connection to the SSQ                                                               
line. The  project involves a 40-mile  transmission line upgrade,                                                               
which cost  about $2 million  several years ago. When  AEA bonded                                                               
against  Bradley, excess  payments  from  debt service  utilities                                                               
were used  for required project  work. The Department of  Law has                                                               
classified  this transmission  line upgrade  as required  project                                                               
work, so  there is no cost  to the state treasury  or ratepayers,                                                               
as  it  involves  reallocating existing  funds.  The  project  is                                                               
currently in  progress, with ongoing procurement  and engineering                                                               
activities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:47:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if, once  the HVDC line is  complete, there                                                               
will be  a consideration to  reroute power through the  HVDC line                                                               
to Anchorage, bypassing the Sterling  line and the existing lines                                                               
coming from Homer.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:48:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER replied that it goes  back to needing redundancy - two                                                               
lines to move power. Beluga has  one line and Heely has two lines                                                               
to Fairbanks.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if, once  the HVDC line is  complete, there                                                               
will be  a consideration to  reroute power through the  HVDC line                                                               
to Anchorage, bypassing the Sterling  line and the existing lines                                                               
coming from Homer.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER replied that having  redundancy with two lines and two                                                               
circuits  is  essential  for  reliable  power  transmission.  The                                                               
ultimate goal is  to connect the HVDC line up  to Beluga and then                                                               
consider  adding another  HVDC line  from Beluga  to Healy.  This                                                               
would  provide   redundancy  throughout  the   system,  extending                                                               
reliability all the  way to Fairbanks, while  maintaining the two                                                               
lines from Healy through Fairbanks.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:49:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  moved to  slide 12 and  explained the  battery energy                                                               
storage system:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Battery Energy Storage Systems for Grid Stabilization                                                                    
     $194 Million Total Cost ($57 Million Current Available                                                                     
     Funds)                                                                                                                     
        • Scope                                                                                                               
             o The BESS projects consist of an upgrade to                                                                       
               the existing  BESS system  in the  North, and                                                                    
               also new  BESS systems  in the  Southern, and                                                                    
               Central  regions of  the  grid. The  Northern                                                                    
               BESS  is located  at Fairbanks,  the Southern                                                                    
               BESS is located in  Kenai, the Central Region                                                                    
               BESS will be located  at Anchorage. BESS will                                                                    
               be needed to fully  realize the benefits of a                                                                    
               230  kV bulk  power  supply system,  regulate                                                                    
               energy from various  generation, and increase                                                                    
               resilience.                                                                                                      
        • Schedule                                                                                                            
             o Estimated completion date is 2026:                                                                               
             o Southern (Kenai)  In service                                                                                     
             o Central (Anchorage)  October 2024                                                                                
             o Northern (Fairbanks)  To be determined                                                                           
        • Budget                                                                                                              
             o Estimated cost is up to $194 million                                                                             
               (depending   on    technology   choices   and                                                                    
               capacity)                                                                                                        
        • Benefits                                                                                                            
             o Increase    system    resilience,    transfer                                                                    
               capability, more efficient  use of system and                                                                    
               lowering impediments  to additional renewable                                                                    
               generation development                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER noted  that part of the $166  million bonding accounts                                                               
for  $57 million  allocated for  battery energy  storage systems.                                                               
The  total  cost  to  install  these  systems  across  all  three                                                               
locations  is approximately  $194 million,  indicating that  they                                                               
are currently only  a quarter of the way  funded. Homer currently                                                               
has  its system  in service,  while Anchorage's  system is  under                                                               
construction with  an expected completion  date of  October 2024.                                                               
AEA  is  collaborating with  Chugach  and  MEA to  determine  the                                                               
ownership  structure, particularly  in  terms  of maximizing  tax                                                               
credit benefits, which  could potentially cover up  to 50 percent                                                               
of  the  costs   through  tax  credits.  This  is   part  of  the                                                               
Infrastructure  Investment  and  Jobs Act  (IIJA)  and  Inflation                                                               
Reduction Act  (IRA) funding mechanisms that  are being explored.                                                               
He pointed out that the battery  in Fairbanks is 20 years old and                                                               
only lasts  seven minutes, whereas  the new battery  in Anchorage                                                               
will have a  two-hour capacity for 440 megawatts,  and Kenai will                                                               
have  a  40-megawatt  battery  with   a  two-hour  capacity.  For                                                               
Anchorage  and Fairbanks,  the battery  systems consist  of Tesla                                                               
batteries housed in  what appear to be  white, 20-foot-long Conex                                                               
containers laid  side by side.  These systems can be  expanded by                                                               
simply  adding   more  connected  units.  These   batteries  will                                                               
eliminate  the  need for  spinning  reserves,  where natural  gas                                                               
generators  are kept  running in  anticipation of  power outages.                                                               
Instead,  the  battery  will  provide  that  reserve  power.  The                                                               
battery  systems  will  help   address  minor  frequency  issues,                                                               
including those  associated with  the Bradley  Lake hydroelectric                                                               
facility.  Although  the  frequency   issues  have  been  largely                                                               
engineered out, the batteries will  further stabilize the system.                                                               
Bradley Lake  was designed  to have  three pits  with 40-megawatt                                                               
generators.  However,   only  two  60-megawatt   generators  were                                                               
installed,  which has  led to  frequency issues  that have  since                                                               
been  mitigated. The  implementation  of battery  storage is  the                                                               
final step in addressing these engineering challenges.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:52:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  moved to slide  13 and  spoke to the  Grid Resilience                                                               
Formula Grant Program:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Grid Resilience Formula Grant Program, IIJA 40101(d)                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
     $60 Million (Over Five Years)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Per IIJA  section 40101(a)(1),8  a disruptive  event is                                                                    
     defined  as  "an  event  in  which  operations  of  the                                                                    
     electric grid are disrupted,  preventively shut off, or                                                                    
     cannot   operate  safely   due   to  extreme   weather,                                                                    
     wildfire, or a natural disaster."                                                                                          
        • Over the next five years, Alaska will receive $60                                                                   
          million  in  federal  formula grants  to  catalyze                                                                  
          projects  to  increase   grid  resilience  against                                                                    
          disruptive events.  In August 2023, the  first two                                                                  
          years of  allocations, $22.2 million,  was awarded                                                              
          to AEA.  AEA's competitive solicitation  for these                                                                    
          funds  closed in  February  2024. Notification  of                                                                    
          sub-awards  are  expected  Q2  2024,  pending  DOE                                                                    
          approval.  For  fiscal  year 2025,  AEA  requested                                                                    
          $17,627,018, Alaska's formula  allocation for year                                                                  
          3, in Federal Receipt  Authority and $1,816,579 in                                                                  
          matching funds.                                                                                                       
        • Resilience measures include but are not limited                                                                       
          to:                                                                                                                   
             o Relocating or reconductoring powerlines                                                                          
             o Improvements to make the grid resistant to                                                                       
               extreme weather                                                                                                  
             o Increasing fire resistant components                                                                             
             o Integrating distributed energy resources                                                                         
               like microgrids and energy storage                                                                               
        • Formula-based funding requires a 15 percent state                                                                   
          match and a 33 percent small utility match.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
MR.  THAYER  stated that  the  state  legislature has  been  very                                                               
generous over the  past three years. It provided  $1.8 million in                                                               
matching  funds, while  AEA leveraged  to secure  $39 million  in                                                               
federal  funds.  The purpose  of  this  program is  to  implement                                                               
resilience  measures  for  utilities,   such  as  relocating  and                                                               
reconnecting  power   lines,  enhancing  resistance   to  extreme                                                               
weather,   and   installing  fire-resistant   components.   These                                                               
improvements will benefit not just  the Railbelt but areas across                                                               
the  state.  Once the  program  is  fully implemented,  over  $60                                                               
million will  have been allocated  to these  resilience measures.                                                               
He  mentioned that  the first  portion of  funding, totaling  $22                                                               
million,  was closed  on February  16. AEA  is currently  working                                                               
through the  process to allocate  an additional $40  million this                                                               
spring.  Furthermore,  they   anticipate  receiving  another  $17                                                               
million  later   this  year,  which  will   also  be  distributed                                                               
similarly to  their Renewable Energy  Project (REP)  program. The                                                               
overall goal is to ensure that  over $60 million will be invested                                                               
in  facilities  statewide  to bolster  their  resilience  against                                                               
various challenges.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
4:53:52 PM                                                                                                                  
MR. THAYER moved  to slide 15 and spoke to  the EV Infrastructure                                                               
Implementation Plan:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      State of Alaska Electric Vehicle (EV) Infrastructure                                                                    
     Implementation Plan                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
        • AEA and the Alaska Department of Transportation &                                                                     
          Public   Facilities   (DOT&PF),   continue   their                                                                    
          partnership in  deploying the  State of  Alaska EV                                                                  
          Infrastructure Implementation Plan (The Plan).                                                                      
        • The first round of Alaska NEVI awards was                                                                           
          announced on  September 25,  2023. AEA  and DOT&PF                                                                  
          selected projects in nine  communities for a total                                                                    
          investment  of $8  million.  The  $6.4 million  in                                                                    
          NEVI  funding will  be matched  with $1.6  million                                                                    
          from  private entities  selected to  install, own,                                                                    
          and operate the new EV charging stations.                                                                             
        • On September 29, 2023, the Federal Highway                                                                            
          Administration  approved  the   fiscal  year  2024                                                                    
          plan.  This unlocked  $11 million  in addition  to                                                                  
          $19  million available  in the  fiscal years  2022                                                                  
          and 2023.                                                                                                             
        • Phases 2 and 3 of The Plan will develop charging                                                                      
          infrastructure in  more than 30  communities along                                                                    
          the Marine Highway System and in hub communities                                                                    
          as funding allows.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  said that federal funding  opportunities for electric                                                               
vehicle (EV)  infrastructure amount to $52  million, administered                                                               
through  the   Alaska  Department  of  Transportation   &  Public                                                               
Facilities (DOT&PF). AEA  developed an EV plan and  has taken the                                                               
lead in managing this funding,  with DOT handling the back-office                                                               
accounting.  This  arrangement  has  enabled $20  million  to  be                                                               
allocated  for  immediate  projects.  The  primary  focus  is  on                                                               
creating  an  alternative  fuel corridor  between  Anchorage  and                                                               
Fairbanks,  which  will  feature nine  charging  stations.  Plans                                                               
include extending  the network  south to Homer  and north  to the                                                               
Dalton  Highway,  as well  as  incorporating  the marine  highway                                                               
system.  Communities served  by the  marine highway  are eligible                                                               
for  EV  charging stations  in  their  ports and  service  areas,                                                               
although not on  the ferries themselves. AEA's EV  plan was among                                                               
the top  six in the  country, leading  to an early  allocation of                                                               
funds  due  to  the  plan's high  quality.  The  Federal  Highway                                                               
Administrator    specifically   highlighted    Alaska   in    the                                                               
announcement of the funding.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:55:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  moved to  slide 16  and spoke  to home  energy rebate                                                               
allocations:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Home Energy and High Efficiency Rebate Allocations                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     AEA is collaborating with the Alaska Housing Financing                                                                   
      Corporation to distribute Alaska's allocation of $74                                                                    
     Million                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Home Efficiency Rebates                                                                                                  
        • Rebates for energy efficiency retrofits range                                                                         
          from $2,000-$4,000 for individual households and                                                                      
          up to $400,000 for multifamily buildings.                                                                             
        • Grants to states to provide rebates for home                                                                          
          retrofits.                                                                                                            
        • Up to $2,000 for retrofits reducing energy use by                                                                     
          20 percent or more, and up to $4,000 for                                                                              
          retrofits saving 35 percent or more.                                                                                  
        • Maximum rebates amounts are doubled for retrofits                                                                     
          of low-and moderate-income homes.                                                                                     
        • Alaska's Allocation is $37.4 million. No State match is required. Funding is estimated to be available between fall                                                                   
          2024 and spring 2025.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     Home Electrification and Appliance Rebates                                                                               
        • Develop a high efficiency electric home rebate                                                                        
          program.                                                                                                              
        • Inclusive of means testing and will provide 50                                                                        
          percent of  the project  cost for  incomes ranging                                                                    
          from  80 percent  to 150  percent  of area  median                                                                    
          income.  Rebates  to  cover  100  percent  of  the                                                                    
          proposed  cost  for  incomes 80  percent  of  area                                                                    
          medium  income  and   below,  with  similar  tiers                                                                    
          applied for multifamily buildings.                                                                                    
        • Includes a $14,000 cap per household, with an                                                                         
          $8,000 cap for heat pump  costs, $1,750 for a heat                                                                    
          pump  water  heater,  and  $4,000  for  electrical                                                                    
          panel/service upgrade.                                                                                                
        • Other eligible rebates include electric stoves,                                                                       
          clothes   dryers,   and   insulation/air   sealing                                                                    
          measures.                                                                                                             
        • Alaska's Allocation is $37.1 million. No State match is required. Funding is estimated to be available between fall                                                                   
          2024 and spring 2025.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER added that Alaska Housing has taken the lead and AEA                                                                 
would perform some of the accounting. However, the money will                                                                   
not be available until late 2024-2025.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:56:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 17 and summarized the Black Rapids                                                                    
Training Site (BRTS) Defense Community Infrastructure Pilot                                                                     
program:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Black Rapids Training Site (BRTS) Defense Community                                                                     
     Infrastructure Pilot Program                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     $15.7 Million                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AEA partnered  with Golden Valley  Electric Cooperative                                                                    
     (GVEA) was awarded this grant  from the Office of Local                                                                    
     Defense   Community  Cooperation   under  the   Defense                                                                    
     Community   Infrastructure   Pilot   Program.   Federal                                                                  
     Receipt Authority  of $12.7 Million received  in fiscal                                                                  
     year  2024. A  $3 million  supplemental budget  request                                                                  
     was  submitted  by  AEA  to  complete  additional  work                                                                  
     requested by the Department of  Defense. No State match                                                                  
     is required.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     GVEA will use  the funds to extend  a transmission line                                                                    
     34  miles   along  the  Richardson  Highway   to  BTRS.                                                                    
     Currently, BTRS  is powered by three  diesel generators                                                                    
     that are  nearing the end  of their useful  lives. This                                                                    
     extension  will  improve long-term  sustainability  and                                                                    
     reliability for  BRTS by tying  them into  GVEA's power                                                                    
     grid.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER noted that no state match is required and highlighted                                                                
the quick turnaround of the application process, which resulted                                                                 
in securing the grant.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:57:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 17 and listed other federal funding                                                                   
opportunities:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Other Federal Funding Opportunities                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Energy Efficiency Revolving Loan Fund  $4.5 million                                                                    
     $4,569,780  to  establish  and capitalize  a  revolving                                                                    
     loan fund,  under which the  State shall  provide loans                                                                    
     and  grants for  residential  energy audits,  upgrades,                                                                    
     and retrofits  to increase energy  efficiency, physical                                                                    
     conform   and   air   quality  of   existing   building                                                                    
     infrastructure.  AEA  will  administer the  program  in                                                                    
     collaboration   with   the   Alaska   Housing   Finance                                                                    
     Corporation (AHFC).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     State Energy Program  $3.6 million                                                                                     
     $3,661,930  to   develop  Statewide  Energy   Plan  and                                                                    
     Statewide  Energy  Security  Profile, as  well  as  (1)                                                                    
     update   AkWarm  Energy   Modeling   Software  to   the                                                                    
     requirements  imposed by  the  Inflation Reduction  Act                                                                    
     and (2)  modernize Alaska Retrofit  Information Systems                                                                    
     database   to  accept   the  AkWarm   modifications  in                                                                    
     collaboration with AHFC.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Electric Vehicle (EV)  Charging Equipment Competitive                                                                  
     $1.6 million                                                                                                           
     $1,670,000   to   (1)   increase  access   to   vehicle                                                                    
     electrification  in  multiple   rural  and  underserved                                                                    
     communities   across   Alaska;  (2)   demonstrate   the                                                                    
     benefits of EVs to  key decision-makers and the broader                                                                    
     public to  accelerate clean  transportation transition;                                                                    
     and (3)  support the development of  community charging                                                                    
     equipment. A  20 percent match  is required,  shared by                                                                    
     AEA and  project partners. Funds will  become available                                                                    
     in Fall 2023.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     State-Based Home Energy  Efficiency Contractor Training                                                                
     Grant Program  $1.3 million                                                                                            
     $1.3  million   to  fund  a  State-Based   Home  Energy                                                                    
     Efficiency   Contractor  Training   Grant  Program   to                                                                    
     develop and implement a  state workforce energy program                                                                    
     that  prepares workers  to  deliver energy  efficiency,                                                                    
     electrification,   and   clean   energy   improvements,                                                                    
     including those covered by  the Inflation Reduction Act                                                                    
     Home Energy Rebate Programs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER reiterated that AEA will partner with Alaska Housing                                                                 
to administer the programs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:58:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 19 and discussed solar for all                                                                        
competition:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Solar For All Competition                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     $100 Million (Application Pending)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • AEA and AHFC collaborating to develop a Statewide                                                                   
          Solar Program:                                                                                                      
        • AEA focus on development of community solar                                                                           
          projects in disadvantaged communities using a                                                                         
          Renewable Energy Fundstyle grant program.                                                                             
             o AHFC focus on residential rooftop solar for                                                                      
               low income households.                                                                                           
        • Program benefits include:                                                                                           
             o energy cost savings, increased resiliency,                                                                       
               equitable  access to  solar, asset  ownership                                                                    
               benefits   low   income  and   disadvantaged,                                                                    
               communities,   workforce   development,   and                                                                    
               reduction in greenhouse gas emissions.                                                                           
        • This is a competitive grant program  no match                                                                       
          required. AEA and AHFC submitted an application for a $100                                                                    
          million grant.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  said that,  excluding bonding  funds and  the Bradley                                                               
Lake  project,  AEA has  secured  over  $635 million  in  federal                                                               
funds,  resulting in  a 1,000  percent budget  increase over  the                                                               
past four  years. This  figure does not  include GRIP  funding or                                                               
additional funds for the current  year. Partnering with AHFC, the                                                               
initiative  also aims  to support  residential rooftop  solar for                                                               
low-income housing.  If successful, the  grant could bring  in an                                                               
additional $100  million, potentially  increasing their  total to                                                               
$750 million, with  no state match required. AEA  expects to know                                                               
the outcome by late this month or early next month.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:59:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER  moved to  slide  21  and  explained the  Power  Cost                                                               
Equalization (PCE) program:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Power Cost Equalization (PCE)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     The PCE program  was established in 1984 as  one of the                                                                    
     components of a statewide energy plan.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The cost  of electricity  for Alaska's  rural residents                                                                  
     is notably higher than for  urban residents. PCE lowers                                                                  
     the cost  of electric service paid  by rural residents.                                                                  
     Ultimately  ensuring the  viability of  rural utilities                                                                  
     and the availability of reliable, centralized power.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     750 kWh: RESIDENTIAL                                                                                                       
     Residential customers  are eligible  for PCE  credit up                                                                    
     to 750 kWhs per month.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     70 kWh: PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                                                  
     Community facilities  can receive PCE credit  for up to                                                                    
     70  kWhs   per  month  multiplied  by   the  number  of                                                                    
     residents in a community.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     $42M: FUNDS DISBURSED                                                                                                      
     In the fiscal  year 2024, AEA disbursed  $42 million to                                                                    
     rural  electric  utilities  for the  benefit  of  rural                                                                    
     communities                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER mentioned  that when he and his  colleague began their                                                               
roles,  noting  that  their  focus   was  initially  on  specific                                                               
objectives outlined  in their  original mission  slides. However,                                                               
over the  past four years,  AEA's responsibilities  have expanded                                                               
significantly, including  initiatives such  as bonding  and other                                                               
projects.  He   provided  a  brief   recap  of  the   Power  Cost                                                               
Equalization  (PCE) program,  explaining that  it provides  up to                                                               
750 kilowatts of energy support  for residential customers, while                                                               
public  facilities receive  70 kilowatts.  He  reported that  AEA                                                               
dispersed  $42  million  under this  program,  with  the  funding                                                               
source being the endowment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:00:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 22 and spoke to power system upgrades:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Rural Power Systems Upgrades and Bulk Fuel Upgrades*                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
        AEA and Federal Partners, Denali Commission (*$2                                                                      
     Million)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Rural Power Systems Upgrade                                                                                              
        • Capital Budget - $2.5 Million                                                                                         
        • ~197 Eligible communities                                                                                             
        • 35 Active projects                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Bulk Fuel Upgrade                                                                                                        
        • Capital Budget - $2 Million                                                                                           
        • ~400 Rural bulk fuel facilities                                                                                       
        • 35 Active projects                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER acknowledged  the  challenges  associated with  Rural                                                               
Power  System  Upgrades,  noting  that  there  are  197  eligible                                                               
communities with 35 active projects.  He referenced the Rewarding                                                               
Efforts  to   Decrease  Unrecycled  Contaminants   in  Ecosystems                                                               
(REDUCE)  Act  project, explaining  that  while  there should  be                                                               
three generators  on-site, only  two are operational  because one                                                               
is  outside the  building  and  not in  use.  He emphasized  that                                                               
staying  ahead   of  maintenance  for  these   powerhouses  is  a                                                               
significant  challenge,   with  approximately  $300   million  in                                                               
deferred maintenance.  There are 400 bulk  fuel facilities, which                                                               
are owned by the communities  rather than the state. However, the                                                               
state,  through the  Alaska Energy  Authority (AEA),  has assumed                                                               
greater  responsibility for  these  projects.  He clarified  that                                                               
while the statute  permits the state to take on  this role, it is                                                               
not mandatory,  but AEA has consistently  provided support. There                                                               
is a capital budget request  similar to last year's, with federal                                                               
matching  dollars available  for these  projects. He  highlighted                                                               
the  efforts made  by the  team,  including conducting  inventory                                                               
assessments of the powerhouses,  traveling to each site, creating                                                               
3D models,  and digitizing all manuals.  This digitization allows                                                               
technicians  to remotely  access detailed  information about  the                                                               
equipment, such  as the  hours of  operation and  specific manual                                                               
pages, to  troubleshoot issues efficiently. The  team is applying                                                               
the same approach  to bulk fuel tanks and working  with the Coast                                                               
Guard to ensure compliance in these facilities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:01:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide  23 and reviewed the electric emergency                                                               
response:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Electric Emergency Response                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     Capital Request: General Fund - $200,000                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     AEA provides support when an  electric utility has lost                                                                    
     or will lose the ability  to generate or transmit power                                                                    
     to  its customers  and  the condition  is  a threat  to                                                                    
     life,  health, and/or  property.  Funding provides  the                                                                    
     current   level  of   technical  support   through  the                                                                    
     Electrical Emergencies Program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • During the fiscal year 2023 there were six (6)                                                                        
          electrical emergencies. Power was restored within                                                                     
          24 hours in each case.                                                                                                
        • The average cost of an electrical emergency                                                                           
          assistance is approximately $45,000 each                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  explained  that as  deferred  maintenance  in  rural                                                               
powerhouses  continues to  accumulate,  the need  for funding  to                                                               
address electrical  emergencies is  likely to  increase. Although                                                               
the average cost  of addressing an electrical  emergency has been                                                               
around  $45,000,  one  community experienced  an  emergency  over                                                               
Christmas that may  require close to $200,000  in assistance. AEA                                                               
maintains a  watch list of  certain communities that do  not have                                                               
access  to  an  Alaska  Village Electric  Cooperative  (AVEC)  or                                                               
another  utility and  rely solely  on  a clerk  and an  operator.                                                               
These communities have been identified  as likely to face issues.                                                               
To  prepare   for  potential  emergencies,  AEA   has  stockpiled                                                               
essential items  like oil filters  and other  necessary equipment                                                               
in  their  warehouse, tailored  to  the  specific needs  of  each                                                               
community's powerhouse.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:03:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP commended  AEA  for its  prompt response  during                                                               
emergencies. He shared  that when the Yukon River  flood took out                                                               
the Yukon power plant, AEA acted swiftly.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:03:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  moved to slide 24  and spoke to the  Renewable Energy                                                               
Fund (REF):                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Renewable Energy Fund (REF)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AEA, in  concert with the  REF Advisory  Committee, has                                                                    
     forwarded to  the Legislature a  capitalization request                                                                    
     of  $32   million  for   Round  16   of  the   REF.  An                                                                    
     appropriation of  $32 million  would fully fund  all 24                                                                    
     recommended projects.  Funding approval for the  REF is                                                                    
     at the discretion of the Legislature and Governor.                                                                         
     REF Highlights                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        • Round 13: 11 Projects  $4.75M                                                                                         
        • Round 14: 27 Projects  $15M                                                                                           
        • Round 15: 18 Projects  $17M                                                                                           
        • Round 16: 24 Projects - Pending                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        • $317 million invested in the REF by the State                                                                         
          since inception.                                                                                                      
        • 100+ operational projects and 60 are in                                                                               
          development.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  Department  of   Energy  recently  announced  $125                                                                  
     million for  solar and hydroelectric projects  in rural                                                                  
     Alaska   several of these  projects benefited from seed                                                                    
     money from REF totaling almost $12 million.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  noted that  AEA has provided  seed money  for several                                                               
projects in  these areas. Specifically, the  $12 million invested                                                               
by AEA has  successfully leveraged $225 million  in federal funds                                                               
for these  projects. The Renewable  Energy Project  (REP) program                                                               
yields  significant  returns, noting  that  it  has displaced  85                                                               
million gallons  of diesel since  its inception. The  program has                                                               
gone through several  funding rounds in recent  years. Last year,                                                               
the legislature funded  Round 16 with $17  million. The Renewable                                                               
Energy Advisory  Committee, composed  of five public  members and                                                               
four legislators,  recommended $32  million in funding,  which is                                                               
currently pending  before the legislature. The  governor's budget                                                               
includes a  $5 million allocation  for the program, down  from $7                                                               
million the  previous year. The  projects are ranked  in priority                                                               
order,  which   aids  in  determining  funding   decisions.  This                                                               
prioritization helps ensure that  the most critical and impactful                                                               
projects receive the necessary support.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:04:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 25  and spoke to the Power Project Fund                                                               
(PPF) Loan Program:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Power Project Fund (PPF) Loan Program                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     The PPF  loan program continues  to see an  increase in                                                                    
     applications due to  federal matching fund requirements                                                                    
     and  other  incentives.  The  Inflation  Reduction  Act                                                                    
     provides tax credits of up to 40 percent                                                                                   
      A fund capitalization of $25 million would allow for                                                                      
        additional funds needed to support the increased                                                                        
     demand in funding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Outstanding Loans                                                                                                        
        • $31 Million                                                                                                           
        • 16 Loans                                                                                                              
     Uncommitted Cash Balance                                                                                                 
        • Program in abeyance until additional capital is                                                                       
          secured                                                                                                               
     Pending Applications                                                                                                     
        • $755,500                                                                                                              
        • Loans Under Review                                                                                                    
     Competitive Rates                                                                                                        
        • Current PPF Interest Rate                                                                                             
        • 5.43 percent as of March 2024                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER noted that the  project has no existing delinquencies.                                                               
The  program features  patient capital  with  a 12-month  rolling                                                               
average  interest rate  of 5.43  percent. He  highlighted several                                                               
projects supported by the fund,  including solar projects in Hope                                                               
and Houston,  a wind farm  in Delta Junction, and  a cogeneration                                                               
unit  at Baxter  Senior Living  in Anchorage.  The fund  has been                                                               
committed fully,  and they are  working on cash flow  analysis to                                                               
accommodate smaller  loans. The program has  been successful, not                                                               
only because  it provides funding  for projects but  also because                                                               
it helps  communities meet  federal match  requirements. Overall,                                                               
the PPF loan program has proven to be a successful initiative.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:05:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 26 and showed a photo of the AEA team.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:06:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 27:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Susitna-Watana At-A-Glance                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     The proposed Susitna-Watana  Hydroelectric Project is a                                                                    
     large  hydro  project   that  would  provide  long-term                                                                    
     stable power  for generations of Alaskans.  The project                                                                    
     would result  in approximately 70 percent  of the power                                                                    
     generated  in the  Railbelt originating  from renewable                                                                    
     sources,  up from  the current  15 percent    a  nearly                                                                    
     four-fold increase.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Dam Height - 705 feet                                                                                                    
     Dam Elevation - 2,065 Feet                                                                                               
     Reservoir Length - ~42 miles                                                                                             
     Reservoir Width- ~1.25 miles                                                                                             
     Installed Capacity - 618 MW                                                                                              
     Annual Energy - 2,800,000 MWh                                                                                            
     Cost - ~$5.6 billion (2014$)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER noted  that the  project is  located north  of Donkey                                                               
Creek, 22 miles  downstream from Devils Canyon.  The proposed dam                                                               
would have a height of 700 feet  and a length of 2,000 feet, with                                                               
an installed  capacity of  618 megawatts.  The estimated  cost of                                                               
the project  in 2014 was  $5.6 billion, although this  figure may                                                               
have  changed and  will need  to be  updated. He  highlighted the                                                               
need to explore any available  tax credits or other programs that                                                               
could  impact   the  project's  financials.   The  Susitna-Watana                                                               
project  could  potentially  meet   50  percent  of  the  current                                                               
Railbelt energy demand. This would  significantly reduce the risk                                                               
of energy shortages and enhance energy security.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:06:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  moved to slide  28 and  explained the purpose  of the                                                               
Susitna-Watana project:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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     Why Susitna-Watana?                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     50 percent estimated supply  of current Railbelt energy                                                                  
     demand                                                                                                                     
     100+  years is  the project  life providing  long-term,                                                                  
     stable rates                                                                                                               
     $11.2  billion estimated  energy  cost savings  ($2014)                                                                  
     over first 50 years                                                                                                        
     The Susitna-Watana  Hydroelectric Project  would offset                                                                    
     the need for  22.6 billion cubic feet per  year of Cook                                                                    
     Inlet natural gas if it were operational today.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:07:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR inquired about the permitting process for the                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:07:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slides 29 - 31 and spoke to the history of                                                                  
Susitna-Watana:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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     Susitna-Watana History                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     1950s                                                                                                                    
     First studies conducted by U.S Bureau of Reclamation                                                                       
     1980s                                                                                                                    
     Alaska  State  studies  project but  oil  prices  cause                                                                    
     state to postpone                                                                                                          
     2010                                                                                                                     
     50 percent Renewable Energy Goal by 2025                                                                                   
     2011                                                                                                                     
     Alaska   Legislature   unanimously  authorizes   Alaska                                                                    
     Energy Authority to pursue Susitna-Watana Hydro                                                                            
     2012                                                                                                                     
     Studies begin on Susitna River and surrounding areas                                                                       
     2017                                                                                                                     
     Licensing Abeyance                                                                                                         
     2019                                                                                                                     
     Abeyance Rescinded                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER noted  that  if the  Susitna-Watana  project were  in                                                               
operation, it would  displace 22.6 billion cubic  feet of natural                                                               
gas. Initial reports from the  1950s identified the location as a                                                               
potential hydro project before natural  gas was discovered in the                                                               
inlet. The  project was  revisited in  the 1980s  as part  of the                                                               
state's  renewable energy  goals.  By 2010,  the  state aimed  to                                                               
achieve  50  percent renewable  energy,  but  current levels  are                                                               
closer to 32-33  percent. In 2011, the  legislature approved $200                                                               
million  in funding  to  pursue the  FERC  licensing process  for                                                               
Susitna-Watana.  Currently,  the   project  is  about  two-thirds                                                               
complete in the licensing process,  with an estimated $80 to $100                                                               
million needed  to finalize it.  He mentioned the need  to update                                                               
these figures  and verify  the validity  of existing  studies, as                                                               
FERC's standards have  evolved and become more  supportive of dam                                                               
projects. The  studies for Susitna-Watana  began in 2012,  but by                                                               
2017,  the project  was  placed  on hold  with  no further  funds                                                               
expended.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  moved to slide  32 and highlighted  job opportunities                                                               
in Susitna-Watana:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Susitna-Watana Employment Opportunities                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Pre-Construction Employment                                                                                              
     ~5,000 Direct jobs                                                                                                         
     ~3,870 Indirect jobs                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Construction Employment                                                                                                  
     ~12,000 Direct jobs                                                                                                        
     ~11,305 Indirect jobs                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Operations Employment (Life of Project)                                                                                  
     ~24-28 Direct jobs                                                                                                         
     ~105 Indirect jobs                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER estimated that the  project would create approximately                                                               
17,000 direct jobs and 15,000 indirect jobs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:09:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 33  and spoke to a visual depicting the                                                               
timeline of  the Susitna-Watana  project. In response  to Senator                                                               
Dunbar's  previous question,  he  explained that  while the  pre-                                                               
application phase for review takes  about two-to-three years, the                                                               
overall  timeline for  construction  and  operation would  likely                                                               
extend  to 15  to  20  years. The  construction  phase itself  is                                                               
projected  to last  nine-to-11 years.  He compared  the project's                                                               
timeline to the  Iceland model, noting that  large hydro projects                                                               
in   Iceland  were   developed  about   40  years   ago,  whereas                                                               
discussions about  Susitna-Watana began around the  same time and                                                               
have yet to come to fruition.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:10:57 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Co-Chair Giessel adjourned the Standing Senate Resources                                                                        
Committee meeting at 5:10 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 217 Letter of Support 3.12.24.pdf SRES 3/13/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 217
AEA Update SRES Presentation 3.13.24.pdf SRES 3/13/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 217 REAP SRES Presentation 3.13.24.pdf SRES 3/13/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 217
AEA Responses to Senate Resources-Wheeling Charges.pdf SRES 3/13/2024 3:30:00 PM