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02/23/2024 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 23, 2024                                                                                        
                           3:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Cathy Giessel, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Bill Wielechowski (via teleconference)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 220                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the Regulatory Commission of Alaska and                                                                     
regulation of the service of natural gas storage."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD -                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 220                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RCA REGULATE NATURAL GAS STORAGE FACILITY                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) GIESSEL                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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02/19/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TONY IZZO, CEO                                                                                                                  
Matanuska Electric Association (MEA)                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Invited testimony for SB 220.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BOYLE, Commissioner                                                                                                        
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Presented   SB  194   on  behalf   of  the                                                             
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented an overview of SB 194.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEREK NOTTINGHAM, Director                                                                                                      
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented an overview of SB 194.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CLICK  BISHOP  called  the  Senate  Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 3:32 p.m.  Present  at the call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Wielechowski,  Kawasaki, Kaufman,  Co-Chair                                                               
Giessel, and Co-Chair Bishop.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        SB 220-RCA REGULATE NATURAL GAS STORAGE FACILITY                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:33:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  announced the consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.                                                               
220 "An Act  relating to the Regulatory Commission  of Alaska and                                                               
regulation of the service of natural gas storage."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP announced invited testimony.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:34:10 PM                                                                                                                    
TONY IZZO, CEO, Matanuska  Electric Association (MEA), Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  invited  testimony for  SB  220,  said MEA  is  Alaska's                                                               
oldest electric  cooperative and  serves the fastest  growing and                                                               
second  largest population  center  in the  state. He  emphasized                                                               
that the state  is at a critical time with  regard to energy. The                                                               
Southcentral region  recently experienced declining  gas reserves                                                               
coupled with  colder than normal  temperatures and  record demand                                                               
for heat and  power, almost resulting in  rolling blackouts. Cook                                                               
Inlet  has reached  a point  where there's  no ability  to secure                                                               
firm gas  contracts beyond the expiration  of existing contracts.                                                               
However, utilities  require firm  gas that  can be  delivered for                                                               
home  heating and  power  production. Natural  gas  storage is  a                                                               
proven  method by  which gas  volumes  available during  off-peak                                                               
periods  like the  summer months  can  be saved,  set aside,  and                                                               
stored  for periods  of  higher demand.  Gas  storage needs  will                                                               
continue to increase  as gas volumes decline while  the future of                                                               
reliable power in the Southcentral  area depends upon having more                                                               
storage.  MEA  aims  to  diversify  its  energy  sources  and  is                                                               
reviewing  various options  including wind,  solar, nuclear,  and                                                               
carbon sequestration.  It hopes to  reach its goal of  50 percent                                                               
clean energy by 2050.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:36:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. IZZO said pending legislation  would require high percentages                                                               
of  non-firm power  like  wind and  solar.  Even with  aggressive                                                               
legislative targets, MEA's annual gas  demand would drop from 5.6                                                               
billion cubic  feet per year  to almost three billion  cubic feet                                                               
in 2040, which is approximately  a 50 percent reduction. However,                                                               
a substantial  three billion cubic  feet would still  be required                                                               
in  a scenario  that  achieved 80  percent  renewable power.  Gas                                                               
storage would  allow MEA  to manage a  diversified mix  of energy                                                               
including non-firm renewables like wind and solar.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:37:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  IZZO stated  that as  the CEO  for a  regulated utility,  he                                                               
fully  supports  the  regulation of  third-party  storage.  While                                                               
significant gas  storage exists  in Cook  Inlet, the  majority is                                                               
non-regulated.  It  is  essentially   used  to  meet  contractual                                                               
obligations by producers. He  supports legislation that clarifies                                                               
that  any provision  of third-party  storage must  be subject  to                                                               
economic  regulation  by  the  Regulatory  Commission  of  Alaska                                                               
(RCA).  Having gas  storage  regulated by  the  RCA provides  the                                                               
necessary  transparency and  will ensure  that rates  for storage                                                               
are reasonable. SB  220 is an important step  to offset declining                                                               
energy security.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:38:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked for confirmation  of his understanding that                                                               
the goal of a 2 bcf reduction is targeted for 2030.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. IZZO replied  that the goal was established last  year and is                                                               
subject  to change,  but the  objective  is to  reach 50  percent                                                               
clean, diversified,  and carbon-free energy through  any means by                                                               
2050.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked  if despite MEA's goals,  must MEA maintain                                                               
spinning reserves  with base  load power or  hard assets  that do                                                               
not rely on renewable energy sources.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. IZZO replied that is correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:39:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP concluded invited testimony on SB 220.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:39:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP opened public testimony;  finding none, he closed                                                               
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  stated  she was  asked  whether  the  Marathon                                                               
facility  and its  energy storage  tanks on  the Kenai  Peninsula                                                               
would be  subject to RCA  regulations under SB 220.  According to                                                               
the Department  of Law's  (DOL) interpretation,  Section 3  of SB
220 would  give RCA  jurisdiction over gas  storage service  in a                                                               
situation  where a  small  producer like  Furie  stores gas  with                                                               
Hilcorp. She  conveyed that  Mr. Izzo mentioned  there is  a huge                                                               
amount of additional  storage besides CINGSA in  Cook Inlet which                                                               
is held  by Hilcorp.  Under the first  scenario, if  Furie stores                                                               
gas with Hilcorp, RCA's jurisdiction  would extend over Hilcorp's                                                               
facilities for  gas storage because two  different entities store                                                               
gas  for  commercial  purposes. Under  the  second  scenario,  if                                                               
Marathon imported LNG and stored it  in its own storage tanks and                                                               
it  took that  gas  and sold  it  to ENSTAR,  they  would not  be                                                               
regulated.  Under the  third scenario,  if  ENSTAR imported  LNG,                                                               
stored it at Marathon, and used  its own gas, it would be covered                                                               
under SB  220. One entity would  own the gas while  the other one                                                               
would store it, so that would fall under this regulation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  held SB  220 in committee  and turned  the gavel                                                               
over to Co-Chair Giessel.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         SB 194-REDUCE ROYALTY ON COOK INLET OIL & GAS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:43:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  announced the consideration of  SENATE BILL NO.                                                               
194 "An  Act relating to  temporarily reduced royalty on  oil and                                                               
gas  from pools  without previous  commercial sales  in the  Cook                                                               
Inlet sedimentary basin; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN BOYLE, Commissioner, Department  of Natural Resources (DNR),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, said  the state is facing  an energy challenge                                                               
in  the   Southcentral  area  that  impacts   the  entire  state.                                                               
Anticipated  supply   is  currently   projected  to   fall  under                                                               
anticipated demand. As  a result in upcoming years,  the state is                                                               
facing a  delta that needs  to be  filled. Royalty relief  is one                                                               
tool DNR  uses to  incentivize new production  in Cook  Inlet. SB
194 is relatively straightforward  and proposes lowering the 12.5                                                               
percent  royalty  rate  to  five percent.  This  would  apply  to                                                               
already  existing leases  and future  leases in  areas where  the                                                               
state does  not currently have  existing oil and  gas production.                                                               
The  provisions  for  royalty  relief would  only  apply  to  new                                                               
production being  brought online and not  to existing production,                                                               
which  is   already  committed  in  the   energy  diversification                                                               
initiative.  Various  consultants  and presenters  conveyed  that                                                               
some of those key drivers  help influence a company's decision to                                                               
invest money  into a prospective  project. The decision  to begin                                                               
with royalty relief is a  significant component that factors into                                                               
the  decision-making  process  on  whether  the  economics  of  a                                                               
commercial project merit an investment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOYLE said  by providing some measure of  royalty relief, the                                                               
economics  could be  improved  to favor  production.  There is  a                                                               
myriad  of   complex  issues  that   challenge  Cook   Inlet  gas                                                               
production  and  factors  that  need  to  be  addressed,  so  DNR                                                               
anticipates  working  with  the committee  to  explore  available                                                               
policy  options  and identify  the  most  meaningful actions  the                                                               
state  could  do to  encourage  production.  Regardless of  other                                                               
technologies and diversified energy  sources, the state will need                                                               
to consider  other sources and  acknowledge the  continued demand                                                               
of natural gas,  which is another reason to  ensure a competitive                                                               
environment  in Cook  Inlet. Although  the  focus is  on gas  and                                                               
energy, SB 194  also applies to new oil production  since the oil                                                               
produced out  of Cook Inlet is  essential to Alaska. That  oil is                                                               
important  to  Marathon  refiners   and  other  applications,  so                                                               
incentivizing both  oil and  gas production  is important  to the                                                               
state  to address  energy  needs, continue  to  provide for  fuel                                                               
needs, and  lessen the reliance  on importing other  fuels, which                                                               
has an  element of  cost and  risk when  considering geopolitical                                                               
issues that  have an  impact on the  ability to  source important                                                               
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:17 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  CROWTHER,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources (DNR), Anchorage, Alaska, introduced himself.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
DEREK  NOTTINGHAM,  Director,  Division  of Oil  and  Gas  (DOG),                                                               
Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR), moved  to  slide 2  and                                                               
explained the significance of Cook Inlet Gas:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHY IS COOK INLET GAS IMPORTANT?                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
     Natural Gas Utilities Enstar serves over 440,000 people and operates in                                                                   
          over 25 communities throughout Southcentral                                                                           
          Alaska                                                                                                                
        • Interior Gas Utility (IGU) serves over 2,400                                                                        
          people                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Electric Utilities Chugach Electric serves over 302,000 people in                                                                      
          Anchorage, Whittier, Girdwood, and Fairbanks                                                                          
        • Matanuska Electric (MEA) serves the Mat-Su                                                                          
          Borough and Chugach and Eagle River, over 180,000                                                                     
          people                                                                                                                
        • Homer Electric serves nearly 36,000 people                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGMHAM  said about seventy  percent of people  in Alaska                                                               
depend on  natural gas. Half  of the gas  that comes out  of Cook                                                               
Inlet is contracted by ENSTAR  while the other half is contracted                                                               
by electric utilities to provide power.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:52:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved to slide 3  and provided an overview of Cook                                                               
Inlet basin:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     COOK INLET OVERVIEW                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Cook Inlet is a large mature oil and gas basin                                                                           
        • Has produced over 1.4 billion barrels of oil and                                                                      
          12 trillion cubic feet of gas                                                                                         
        • 26 producing fields operated by 8 different                                                                           
          companies                                                                                                             
        • There are over 200 oil and gas leases in Cook                                                                         
          inlet                                                                                                                 
     Gas production has been declining since 1990                                                                             
        • Peak gas production in 1990 was over 850,000                                                                          
          thousand cubic feet per day                                                                                           
        • Current production is just over 200,000 thousand                                                                      
          cubic feet per day                                                                                                    
       Cook Inlet gas provides heat and electricity to 70                                                                     
     percent of Alaskans                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM  said Cook Inlet  produced 1.4 billion  barrels of                                                               
oil  and 12  trillion cubic  feet of  gas since  the late  1950s,                                                               
including 26  producing fields operated  by eight  companies. The                                                               
green  shaded areas  on the  map on  the right  side of  the page                                                               
indicate  gas production.  He noted  that current  production has                                                               
significantly declined since 1990.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:53:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved to slide 4 and detailed Cook Inlet leases:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     COOK INLET LEASES                                                                                                        
     What is a State of Alaska Oil and Gas Lease?                                                                             
             • A  lease is  a tract  of land  designated for                                                                    
               oil and gas exploration                                                                                          
             • Leases are offered at  lease sales or through                                                                    
               exploration licenses                                                                                             
             • Primary lease terms are  between five and ten                                                                    
               years                                                                                                            
             • Commercial   production  extends   the  lease                                                                    
               beyond the primary term                                                                                          
     What is an Oil and Gas Unit?                                                                                             
             • Leases are  combined to form  a unit  for the                                                                    
               protection of all parties                                                                                        
             • Facilitates   joint   development,   conserve                                                                    
               natural resources, and avoid waste                                                                               
             • Unit  agreement  is   developed  between  the                                                                    
               lessees and the State                                                                                            
             • Requires  the   development  of  a   plan  of                                                                    
               development/exploration (POD/POE) along with                                                                     
               other reporting requirements                                                                                     
             • Requires  the operator  to act  as a  prudent                                                                    
               operator while developing the unit                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked about general lease  term requirements to                                                               
satisfy the terms of commercial production.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:55:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM replied  that  in general,  the  lease terms  are                                                               
between a  five-to-ten-year timeframe. Recently, DNR  has offered                                                               
an eight-year  lease with the option  to extend it to  ten years.                                                               
The lessee  is required to  pay rent on that  lease as well  as a                                                               
bonus to  bid on it  upfront. They  are also required  to fulfill                                                               
exploration activities.  If oil  or gas  are found  in commercial                                                               
quantities, the  lessee is required  to put it on  production. If                                                               
production  is  not done  within  that  timeframe, the  lease  is                                                               
returned to the state and can be offered for sale.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:56:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked if a  lessee or operator could  drill for                                                               
oil and gas then harvest and stockpile the resource.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:57:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER  replied no and  said there is an  iterative process                                                               
the  state  goes  through to  manage,  encourage,  and  sometimes                                                               
compel or respond  to a failure to produce from  a lease or unit.                                                               
Individual  leases  are  treated  as  a unit  in  the  course  of                                                               
development. When  a project begins and  operators acquire leases                                                               
for a potential unit, they  provide exploration plans to DNR that                                                               
prove they will drill wells.  DNR's process requires the operator                                                               
to identify the geological location  of where that production can                                                               
be  allocated  to.  If  subsequent wells  are  not  drilled  that                                                               
identify, expand,  or appropriately manage that  development, DNR                                                               
requires  the  operator to  fulfill  their  lease terms  or  risk                                                               
losing  future  leases.   There  is  a  very   complex  suite  of                                                               
regulations that covers  that. In the event  an operator obtained                                                               
leases, was  granted a  unit, drilled  a well  or two,  and never                                                               
pursued  further development,  DNR could  take actions  to reduce                                                               
the size of the unit, remove leases  from it, and offer it up for                                                               
sale.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:59:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked  if any current Cook Inlet  leases are not                                                               
being developed or  are in jeopardy of having  leases being taken                                                               
back or reissued by the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:59:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER replied  that it is difficult to  provide a decisive                                                               
answer since each  lease unit is at a different  stage. Some have                                                               
been  in production  between a  decade and  over a  half-century,                                                               
while  others  are   new  and  have  yet  to   see  that  initial                                                               
exploration.  A variety  of units  have seen  attempts to  expand                                                               
development, including the Cosmopolitan  Unit. DNR is focusing on                                                               
bringing that unit as well as  the Kitchen Lights Unit (KLU) into                                                               
full production. Given the large size  of KLU, it is important to                                                               
ensure a plan is in place for continued activity.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:01:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI clarified  that he wanted to know  the status of                                                               
current leases. He stated it sounds  like the price of Cook Inlet                                                               
gas is  at an all-time  high development should be  taking place.                                                               
He  expressed hope  that developers  who  do not  meet the  lease                                                               
requirements be held to the terms of the lease.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:02:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved to slide 5 and spoke to Cook Inlet geology:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     COOK INLET GEOLOGY                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     Two Sources of Gas In Cook Inlet Basin                                                                                   
        1. Biogenic gas from coals                                                                                              
        2. Oil  migrated   from   source   rocks,   creating                                                                    
          associated gas                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM explained  that  the image  illustrates the  left                                                               
side  of  Cook Inlet  and  the  Alaskan  Range mountains  on  the                                                               
eastern  side  of  the  Kenai  Peninsula.  The  shades  of  green                                                               
indicate  the presence  of sand  deposits, gas,  and deeper  oil,                                                               
which  have  accumulated  over  time  to  form  a  fairway.  This                                                               
accumulation is  influenced by tectonic  activity. On  the right,                                                               
the image shows  a stratigraphic section that  has developed over                                                               
time,  primarily   from  oil  found  deep   within  Jurassic  and                                                               
Cretaceous sands. Oil  is also visible in  areas corresponding to                                                               
the  Cenozoic  Tertiary  eras.  Additionally,  gas  deposits  are                                                               
evident  in  the sterling  Beluga  sands,  primarily composed  of                                                               
biogenetic  gas  produced  by decomposed  bug  remains  that  are                                                               
primarily comprised  of methane.  The oils have  migrated upwards                                                               
from  deep source  rocks.  While  many of  the  deeper sands  are                                                               
tightly formed, they  become more permeable as  they move towards                                                               
shallower sands. It  is the shallow permeable  sands that yielded                                                               
most of the 1.4 billion barrels of produced oil.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:04:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL said she appreciated  these diagrams that dispel                                                               
the myth of gas being extracted from caverns.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:04:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  if gas  used in  oil basins  to increase                                                               
production would be  subject to SB 194 or a  12.5 percent royalty                                                               
rate.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:05:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  replied  he  believes  that  gas  used  for  EOR                                                               
purposes that  stays within a unit  would not be subjected  to SB
194 since it is not subject  to a royalty-bearing event. The only                                                               
field in  Cook Inlet that uses  gas cycling is Swanson  River and                                                               
that gas  stays within that  unit and  is managed at  the federal                                                               
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:06:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  moved to  slide 6 and  spoke to  undiscovered oil                                                               
and gas resources:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       COOK INLET EXPLORATION & DEVELOPMENT: UNDISCOVERED                                                                     
     RESOURCES                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     Undiscovered, Technically Recoverable Oil & Gas (U.S.                                                                    
     Geological Survey 2011):                                                                                                 
        • mean conventional oil 599 million barrels of oil                                                                      
        • mean conventional gas 13.7 trillion cubic feet                                                                        
       • mean unconventional gas 5.3 trillion cubic feet                                                                        
     Undiscovered, Technically Recoverable Gas:                                                                               
        • 1.2 trillion cubic feet additional mean resource                                                                      
          assessed in the federal Southern Cook Inlet Outer                                                                     
          Continental Shelf area (Bureau of Ocean Energy                                                                        
          Management 2011)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        • Governor's Legislation targets making these                                                                           
          prospects more economic for development                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.   NOTTINGHAM  said   this  slide   demonstrates  undiscovered                                                               
resources outside of existing units. The  map on the left side of                                                               
the page  represents Cook Inlet lands  as far south as  Homer and                                                               
as  far north    Talkeetna.  The outline  in  red represents  the                                                               
potential  for full-bed  gas. The  other  outlines represent  the                                                               
potential   for  different   oil  and   gas  plays   through  the                                                               
stratigraphic cross section.  He said it conveys there  is a huge                                                               
amount of undiscovered gas in Cook  Inlet and the lion's share of                                                               
it is not on existing leases or units.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:08:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL noted that USGS does  not comment on the cost of                                                               
accessing those undiscovered resources.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:08:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied that is  correct. He  stated "technically                                                               
recoverable"  translates  to  gas extraction  opportunities  that                                                               
have been demonstrated  elsewhere in the world.  However, it does                                                               
not mean applying it in Cook Inlet will be commercial.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:09:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  moved to slide 7  that showcases a graph  of Cook                                                               
Inlet production  history over time.  In the late 1950s  to early                                                               
1960s, oil  production reached over  200,000 barrels per  day. He                                                               
stated peak  gas production  occurred in  1990 at  853,476 mcf/d.                                                             
Water production  came from water  flood breaking through  in the                                                               
oil  reservoirs and  is  how  pressure is  maintained.  It is  an                                                               
enhanced recovery technique that has  been widely applied in Cook                                                               
Inlet. Production has declined to around 200 million cubic feet.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI said in 2012 or  2013, it appears there was more                                                               
gas  produced  in  that  year.  He referred  to  the  Cook  Inlet                                                               
Recovery  Act  (CIRA) and  Cook  Inlet  Natural Gas  Storage  Act                                                               
(CINGSA)  that  preceded it.  Two  major  developments were  made                                                               
where the state  lost revenue in hopes of producing  more gas. He                                                               
asked  why these  approaches increased  production  for one  year                                                               
only.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:11:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM replied he is unsure  but would report back to the                                                               
committee. The impact  is subtle on the actions  taken to improve                                                               
gas production in Cook Inlet.  He stated the graph demonstrates a                                                               
change in the trajectory.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:11:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved  to slide 8 and spoke to  the history of gas                                                               
production  from 2000  to 2023.  He said  the main  point of  the                                                               
graphic on  the left  is to demonstrate  state-owned oil  and gas                                                               
leases  and  the  companies  that  left  Cook  Inlet.  Currently,                                                               
Hilcorp and several small producers  make up Cook Inlet producers                                                               
and  leaseholders. The  graphic  on the  right  shows where  that                                                               
production comes  from. He stated  that big fields  have declined                                                               
significantly and  another big field  was not brought  online, so                                                               
although  there was  incremental  change through  CIRA, no  major                                                               
discovery came online.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  said a lot of  money was spent on  CIRA and the                                                               
state subsequently had  to pull back cash  credits offered. While                                                               
there were some results, many companies left Cook Inlet.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:14:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  moved  to  slide  9  and  described  Cook  Inlet                                                               
production  field  history. He  said  about  68  bcf of  gas  was                                                               
produced out  of Cook Inlet last  year. The lion's share  of that                                                               
came from leases  that Hilcorp operates. About 90  percent of the                                                               
production is operated  by Hilcorp, which owns  about 80 percent.                                                               
Around nine thousand barrels per day come from Cook Inlet.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:14:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  said she  appreciated the  quantified breakdown                                                               
of the various fields on slide 9.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:15:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved to slide 10 and explained gas storage:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     GAS STORAGE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     What is gas storage?                                                                                                     
        • Gas can be stored by re-injecting it in                                                                               
          subsurface reservoirs and  re-producing when it is                                                                    
          needed,   although  it   comes   with  costs   and                                                                    
          operational demands.                                                                                                  
        • It is used within a year to mitigate the fact                                                                         
          that demand is much higher  in the winter than the                                                                    
          summer, but it  is best to produce  from fields at                                                                    
          a  relatively  steady  rate. Production  over  the                                                                    
          summer months  can be "saved  up" for  cold winter                                                                    
          days.                                                                                                                 
        • Storage is critical, as peak winter demand                                                                            
          already  requires  more  gas than  is  deliverable                                                                    
          from producing reservoirs.                                                                                            
        • Gas storage can also be used across multiple                                                                          
          years.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     There are currently four active gas storage pools                                                                        
        • CINGSA     Established in 2011, gas storage                                                                           
          capacity  18  bcf ,  operated  by  CINGSA (an  RCA                                                                    
          regulated utility)                                                                                                    
        • Kenai  Gas  Pool  6    Established  in  2006,  gas                                                                    
          storage capacity 50 bcf, operated by Hilcorp                                                                          
        • Pretty Creek    Established  in 2005,  gas storage                                                                    
          capacity 3 bcf, operated by Hilcorp                                                                                   
        • Swanson  River (Federal)     Established in  2001,                                                                    
          gas storage capacity 3.4 bcf, operated by Hilcorp                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:15:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  asked  him  to   elaborate  on  CINGSA's  sand                                                               
production during the recent cold snap.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:16:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM replied  that he  is  unsure of  specifics. In  a                                                               
general sense, when a well produces,  it does not have a downhole                                                               
mechanism  to control  sand  as  a gravel  pact  does. Over  time                                                               
through pressure cycles  and drawing down the well,  the sand may                                                               
become unconsolidated, sluff into  the well, and create obstacles                                                               
for well  production. When possible,  sand can be cleaned  out to                                                               
restore   production  or   install   completion  equipment   that                                                               
mitigates sand production in the future.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:17:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM moved  to slide  11 and  detailed Cook  Inlet gas                                                               
demand:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     COOK INLET GAS DEMAND                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     Kenai LNG Plant                                                                                                          
        • Nikiski  liquified natural  gas (LNG)  facility is                                                                    
          operated by Trans-Foreland Pipeline Co. LLC                                                                           
          which is a subsidiary of Marathon Petroleum                                                                           
        • Last exported LNG was 2015                                                                                            
        • Department  of  Energy   (DOE)  authorization  for                                                                    
          exporting LNG expired in 2018                                                                                         
        • Dec.  2020  Federal Energy  Regulatory  Commission                                                                    
          (FERC) approved LNG imports to this facility an                                                                       
          annual capacity up to 1.8 billion cubic feet                                                                          
          (bcf) per year                                                                                                        
     Nutrien Fertilizer Plant                                                                                                 
        • Second largest ammonia/urea plant in U.S.                                                                             
        • Shut down and mothballed  in 2007, however Nutrien                                                                    
          maintains permits and remains interested in                                                                           
          reopening the plant                                                                                                   
        • Gas prices  relative to  Lower 48  makes economics                                                                    
          difficult                                                                                                             
       • Potential source for blue hydrogen/blue ammonia                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM said one of  the main components is outlined under                                                               
bullet point 2 of the  Nutrien Fertilizer Plant section. By 2007,                                                               
the unit  was offline. Kenai  LNG went offline in  the mid-2010s,                                                               
so  the industrial  baseload has  weaned Cook  Inlet for  various                                                               
reasons. Currently, power, heat, and  some oil and gas operations                                                               
make up  the 70 bcf  of annual gas that  is demanded out  of Cook                                                               
Inlet.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:18:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM moved  to slide  12 and  spoke to  the 2022  Cook                                                               
Inlet forecast:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DNR 2022 COOK INLET FORECAST                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     Purpose of the 2022 Cook Inlet Gas Forecast:                                                                             
        • Independent  analysis  to provide  information  on                                                                    
          gas supply issues in the Cook Inlet                                                                                   
        • Also  provides  production   information  for  the                                                                    
          Department of Revenue's revenue forecast                                                                              
     Methodology:                                                                                                             
        • Utilized  public production  data to  assess Units                                                                    
          producing gas in the Cook Inlet                                                                                       
        • Generally    accepted     petroleum    engineering                                                                    
          practices used to develop projections                                                                                 
        • Standardized set of economic  limits were used for                                                                    
          each Unit 12                                                                                                          
     Key Assumptions:                                                                                                         
        • Assumes 15 development wells  per year until 2030,                                                                    
          and no new wells beyond that                                                                                          
        • Assumes  gas  price  is  flat   at  70  BCF,  with                                                                    
          escalation for inflation. Does not forecast                                                                           
          market changes responding to supply/demand                                                                            
        • Does not  include contribution  from non-producing                                                                    
          known prospects and does not forecast likelihood                                                                      
          of their development                                                                                                  
        • Forecasted   volumes  do   not  account   for  gas                                                                    
          produced from gas storage                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  said  in  response   to  Hilcorp  informing  the                                                               
utilities that it  was going to meet  its contractual obligations                                                               
but could  no longer  be the  swing producer  in Cook  Inlet, DNR                                                               
sought to understand and develop a  forecast. At the end of 2022,                                                               
the  forecast was  presented to  various legislative  committees.                                                               
Publicly   available   data   was   used  to   steer   clear   of                                                               
confidentiality issues.  Operators' plans and known  prospects in                                                               
Cook Inlet helped develop the  assumption of 15 development wells                                                               
per year until 2030.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:20:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  moved  to  slide  13  and  said  the  blue  bars                                                               
demonstrate existing wells  that are online today but  are on the                                                               
decline. The orange  bars represent the 15  development wells. In                                                               
2027, there  were significant gaps  between supply and  demand in                                                               
Cook Inlet. He  emphasized the importance of  establishing the 15                                                               
annual  development wells  and  continuous  drilling to  continue                                                               
providing gas and meet future demand.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:21:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved to slide 14:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2022 FORECAST VS ACTUALS                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     Key Differences from Actuals                                                                                             
        • Wells Drilled:                                                                                                        
               18 development wells were drilled in 2022 vs                                                                     
               DNR-assumed 15 development wells                                                                                 
        • Routine Field Events:                                                                                                 
               Well Maintenance (i.e., tubing replacements,                                                                     
               casing repairs, etc.)                                                                                            
               Well   Enhancements    (i.e.,   perforations,                                                                    
               stimulations, etc.)                                                                                              
               Facility Turnaround Events (i.e., compressor                                                                     
               &   separator   maintenance,   infrastructure                                                                    
               repairs, etc.)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  added that  development  is  on track  with  the                                                               
forecast.  He said  the green  line represents  actual production                                                               
while the blue and gray line represents the forecast.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:22:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM moved  to slide  15 and  listed 2023  development                                                               
well activity:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2023 DEVELOPMENT WELL ACTIVITY                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     Well Activity 17 gas development wells have been drilled and                                                                      
          completed during calendar year 2023:                                                                                  
             o North Cook Inlet Unit x3                                                                                         
             o Lewis River Unit x1                                                                                              
             o North Trading Bay Unit x1                                                                                        
             o Swanson River Unit x3                                                                                            
             o Beluga River Unit x5                                                                                             
             o Lewis River Unit x1                                                                                              
             o Ninilchik Unit x3                                                                                                
        • 1 development well is currently being drilled in                                                                    
          Kenai Unit                                                                                                            
        • 1 development well drilling permit is currently                                                                     
          approved for Beluga River Unit                                                                                        
     Production                                                                                                               
     Major Field Contributors (through November 2023):                                                                          
        • Ninilchik ~21.8 percent                                                                                               
        • North Cook Inlet ~18.8 percent                                                                                        
        • Beluga River ~18.5 percent                                                                                            
        • All other gas fields represent less than 10                                                                           
          percent each                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       The above percentages are based on gas volumes for                                                                       
     sale, and discounts gas produced from storage as well                                                                      
     as gas reinjected for EOR purposes.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:22:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked if all 17 wells are operated by Hilcorp.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:23:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM replied that is correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked for information on the one development                                                                   
well currently being drilled in the Kenai Unit.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:23:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied that all  17 development wells  have been                                                               
drilled  and completed.  In  the Kenai  Unit,  there was  another                                                               
development  well drilled  for a  total of  18 development  wells                                                               
completed  in  2023.   Also,  the  Baluga  River   Unit  had  one                                                               
development well permitted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:23:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked  if the two additional  wells are operated                                                               
by Hilcorp.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:23:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM replied that is correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  referred to  slide 13 and  asked if  years 2020,                                                               
2027,  2028, and  2029 are  looking  for 10,  15, and  20 bcf  of                                                               
replacement to reach demand.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:24:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied that  is correct. He  said it's  a needed                                                               
increase of about  5 bcf in 2027,  15 bcf in 2028, and  20 bcf in                                                               
2029.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:24:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP  observed  the  these  are  the  deficits  after                                                               
including the 15 annual development wells.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:24:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM replied that is correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:24:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP emphasized that this is a real situation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:24:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL commented  that  she  thought Senator  Bishop's                                                               
question might ask  about the projected costs  for the additional                                                               
wells.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:24:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP said Co-Chair Giessel could ask the question.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:25:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR   GIESSEL  asked   if  the   economical  evaluation   is                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:25:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM asked  if the  question is  about the  cost of  a                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:25:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL clarified that  the question is about projecting                                                               
the five  additional bcf in 2027  at what cost. She  asked if the                                                               
calculations came from DNR or a consultant.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:25:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied that utilities  and ENSTAR have  not done                                                               
an  economic  analysis  of  the various  options  they  have  for                                                               
economical gas. DNR did not complete that analysis.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:25:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM moved  to slide  16 and  shared Cook  Inlet lease                                                               
sale results from 2023:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     COOK INLET 2023 LEASE SALE RESULTS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     New, competitive lease terms offered:                                                                                    
             • Net profit share as the bid variable                                                                             
             • Fixed per-acre cash bonus                                                                                        
             • No royaltypercentage of net profits owed to                                                                      
               the    State    after   recovering    capital                                                                    
               investments and operating costs to bring                                                                         
               production online                                                                                                
     Six tracts received bids                                                                                                 
             • Three from Hilcorp Alaska LLC                                                                                    
             • Three from Hex LLC                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Net profit share rate bids: 5.7 percent  11 percent                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Cash bonus revenue: About $600,000                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     Acres receiving bids: About 15,000 acres                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
MR.  NOTTINGHAM added  that the  net profit  share only  kicks in                                                               
when the  project achieves payout.  It allows the lessee  time to                                                               
locate the  gas, drill wells,  and get the production  online and                                                               
achieve  economic payout  before the  state starts  receiving the                                                               
net profit  share. He said these  are good terms for  the lessee.                                                               
The bids  provided insight  on Cook  Inlet interest  and indicate                                                               
there is not a large group of interested investors.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  moved to slide  17 and compared existing  oil and                                                               
gas royalty statutes  of new leases and existing  leases in terms                                                               
of  no production  and mature  production. He  expressed that  AS                                                               
38.05.180(f)(4) is restrictive and scarcely used. He said he                                                                    
does not believe any producers in Cook Inlet applied for the AS                                                                 
38.05.180(j) modification.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:32:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved to slide 18 and explained why SB 194 is                                                                    
necessary:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 194: WHY IT IS NECESSARY                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     Why this legislation is necessary                                                                                        
        • Alaskans  need  access   to  reliable,  affordable                                                                    
          energy                                                                                                                
        • Nearly  70  percent  of Alaskans  use  Cook  Inlet                                                                    
          natural gas for heating, energy, and electricity                                                                      
          generation                                                                                                            
        • Cook  Inlet gas  supplies are  forecasted to  drop                                                                    
          below demand in coming years unless new sources                                                                       
          are brought online                                                                                                    
        • There  are several  significant known  natural gas                                                                    
          fields in Cook Inlet that are not seeing                                                                              
          development under the status quo                                                                                      
        • Policies   and    actions   to    support   future                                                                    
          development need to be taken today                                                                                    
        • More competitive  development terms  will increase                                                                    
          total recovery and utilization of Alaska's                                                                            
          natural resources, which otherwise may not be                                                                         
          developed or generate revenue for the State                                                                           
        • Alaska  should  use  all  the  local  natural  gas                                                                    
          resources available as we work on long-term                                                                           
          energy solutions for the Railbelt                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOTTINGHAM said Cook Inlet is part of the overall solution                                                                  
and this acts as a bridge to a longer-term solution.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:34:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL inquired about any specific field locations SB
194 would help develop under the status quo.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:34:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM mentioned specific field locations in focus. He                                                                  
said there are smaller developments that would be impacted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:34:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked what the runway  would look like if the two                                                               
pools on slide  13 were in production, so the  committee can make                                                               
an informed economic decision for long-term plans.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:35:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM replied  he would  follow up  with the  committee                                                               
with an answer.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:35:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL said  the long-term is key. In 2013,  CIRA was a                                                               
short-term solution and Alaska couldn't  afford the cash credits.                                                               
The legislature does not want to make the same mistake.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:36:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM moved to slide 19  and explained the effects of SB
194:                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 194: EFFECTS                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
     What the bill does                                                                                                       
        • Grants a reduced royalty of five percent for the                                                                      
          first ten years of production from pools in Cook                                                                      
          Inlet that have not previously been produced for                                                                      
          commercial sale                                                                                                       
        • Includes known resources that are not yet in                                                                          
          production and resources that could be discovered                                                                     
          through further exploration                                                                                           
        • Applies to any state land in Cook Inlet, whether                                                                      
          or not in existing fields, units, or leases                                                                           
        • Does not reduce royalties for pools presently in                                                                      
          commercial production                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:37:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  moved  to  slide  20  and  explained  qualifying                                                               
production under SB 194:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 194: QUALIFYING PRODUCTION                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     AS 38.05.180(f)(5) is amended to read:                                                                                   
     "[T]he lessee of  all or part of an oil  or gas pool in                                                                    
     the  Cook  Inlet  sedimentary basin  that,  subject  to                                                                    
     determination by  the commissioner, has  not previously                                                                    
     produced for  commercial sale  oil or  gas shall  pay a                                                                    
       royalty of five percent on oil or gas produced for                                                                       
     sale from that pool for 10 years following the date on                                                                     
     which the production for commercial sale commences;"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:38:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI   said  AS  38.05.180(f)(5)  used   to  have  a                                                               
qualifier that was  just subject to the first  25 million barrels                                                               
and  35 million  cubic  feet of  gas produced.  He  asked for  an                                                               
opinion on why it was previously included.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CROWTHER  replied   he  is  unaware  of   the  exact  policy                                                               
rationale. The  perception is that  the six identified  fields at                                                               
the time  were known resources  that needed development  to build                                                               
revenue  and gas  supply.  The state  wanted  to encourage  field                                                               
startup  and the  initial  capital  investment while  recognizing                                                               
that the state  would revert back to its status  quo royalty. One                                                               
reason  volume metric  limitations are  excluded from  SB 194  is                                                               
because DNR  wants all that  volume to  be produced to  get those                                                               
additional resources to  market. At the time  of investment, they                                                               
focused   on   encouraging   investment,   field   startup,   and                                                               
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:39:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  asked  if  volume  metric  field  requirements                                                               
produced  the   anticipated  results  that  were   sought  in  AS                                                               
38.05.180.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:39:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CROWTHER said  the best  thing  to do  is identify  start-up                                                               
times for the  six fields. He offered to return  to the committee                                                               
with this information.  He noted several of the  fields are still                                                               
in production today.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:40:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM continued reading slide 20:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What "has not previously produced for commercial sale                                                                    
     oil or gas" means:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
        • Production from wells or sidetracks drilled after                                                                     
          the effective date of this legislation that would                                                                     
          not have otherwise been produced from existing                                                                        
          wells                                                                                                                 
        • "[S]ubject to determination by the commissioner"                                                                      
          means DNR considers  if the source of  oil and gas                                                                    
          has produced  in the  past, proximity  to existing                                                                    
          wells,  drainage  area   of  existing  wells,  and                                                                    
          timeframe for recovery from existing wells                                                                            
        • Examples of qualifying production:                                                                                    
             o A newly-drilled well or sidetrack from the                                                                       
               edge of an existing or previously-producing                                                                      
               development                                                                                                      
             o A new well or sidetrack from an unproduced                                                                       
               accumulation of oil and gas                                                                                      
        • The lessee or lessees shall jointly or separately                                                                     
          apply  for reduction  in royalty  for one  or more                                                                    
          wells with each application                                                                                           
        • Data and interpretations will be supplied with                                                                        
          the application, and DNR  may request further data                                                                    
          and interpretations                                                                                                   
        • A well or accumulation may be determined to                                                                           
          receive  reduced   royalties  before  a   well  is                                                                    
          drilled    when    supported     by    data    and                                                                    
          interpretations                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:41:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked if AS  38.05.180(f)(5) would be part of the                                                               
economic incentive to take on the endeavor.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:42:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM  replied yes and said  it is part of  the economic                                                               
incentive. It  is critical  for some producers  in Cook  Inlet to                                                               
know  they  will  receive  the   benefits  before  they  consider                                                               
investing. If  producers believe  they will  need to  generate or                                                               
acquire  a significant  amount of  data  and go  through a  time-                                                               
consuming  process through  the  state,  it creates  uncertainty.                                                               
Having the royalty reduction up front is important.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:43:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP  commented that  the  benefits  help with  small                                                               
business financing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:43:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM stated that is correct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:43:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked whether it  is similar to the cash credits                                                               
that the  legislature promised, which drew  investment from large                                                               
creditors like Bank of America and others.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:43:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM replied  that the five percent  royalty benefit is                                                               
not an upfront  cash payout and would  require ground production.                                                               
That is the  distinction of the cash credit  program. The royalty                                                               
reduction incentivizes getting the production online.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:44:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  said it would apply  to new gas or  oil for ten                                                               
years and seems  similar to the gross value  reduction offered on                                                               
the North Slope for new oil for seven years.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:44:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NOTTINGHAM replied  that it did apply to the  North Slope Oil                                                               
and  Gas Production  tax, which  was  a reduction  for the  first                                                               
seven  years  on  a  per-barrel  basis  from  certain  qualifying                                                               
fields. This would  apply to the royalty, so it  is a benefit off                                                               
of the gross value for 10 years.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:45:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM moved  to slide  21 and  presented the  sectional                                                               
summary:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 194: SECTIONAL SUMMARY                                                                                                
      Section 1: Amends AS 38.05.180(f)(5). The                                                                           
          original  statute granted  a five-percent  royalty                                                                    
          rate for  oil or gas  for the first ten  years but                                                                    
          was limited  to six  Cook Inlet  fields discovered                                                                    
          before 1988 and provided  a deadline of January 1,                                                                    
          2004,   for    start   of   production    (in   AS                                                                    
          38.05.180(dd)).                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          This  amendment modifies  the  program to  include                                                                    
          new  production  in   Cook  Inlet,  regardless  of                                                                    
          discovery  date, and  removes  limits on  eligible                                                                    
          volumes of  oil or gas during  the ten-year period                                                                    
          of  reduced  royalty.  Eligibility is  subject  to                                                                    
          determination   by  the   Department  of   Natural                                                                    
          Resources  (DNR) commissioner,  rather than  being                                                                    
          automatic.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • Section 2: Repeals the following statutes:                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
          AS 31.05.030(i):                                                                                                    
          This section  relates to the powers  and duties of                                                                    
          the  Alaska Oil  and  Gas Conservation  Commission                                                                    
          (AOGCC) and  the paragraph outlines  the procedure                                                                    
          for approving  plans of development by  the AOGCC.                                                                    
          This statute  is no  longer necessary  because the                                                                    
          Department  of Natural  Resources, not  the AOGCC,                                                                    
          is the agency that  administers and approves plans                                                                    
          of development.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          AS 38.05.180(dd):                                                                                                   
          This section relates to the  State of Alaska's oil                                                                    
          and gas  and gas only leasing  policies. Paragraph                                                                    
          (dd)   established  a   deadline   for  start   of                                                                    
          production under the  unamended AS 38.05.180(f)(5)                                                                    
          and is no longer appropriate.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Section   3:   The    legislation   takes   effect                                                                  
          immediately under AS 01.10.070(c).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:47:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked  if DNR has had any  indication this would                                                               
be helpful to producers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:47:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NOTTINGHAM  replied  that DNR  has  had  conversations  with                                                               
lessees that  indicated it would  be helpful.  It may not  be the                                                               
key to  fully unlocking things  but would be beneficial  since it                                                               
removes  an upfront  cost in  gas  and oil  production and  helps                                                               
achieve the rate of return that investors need to see.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:48:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR   GIESSEL  acknowledged   this   was  discussed   during                                                               
conversations  about the  North Slope  and while  rewriting those                                                               
tax policies.  It is  important they  realize fully  repaying the                                                               
cost  of development  as soon  as  possible. She  asked what  the                                                               
state defers in revenue.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:48:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CROWTHER replied  that  DNR has  a  variety of  hypothetical                                                               
field  developments  and  general amalgamated  information  about                                                               
history  revenue trends  and revenue  associated  with the  total                                                               
return of  the state. He  offered to deliver this  information to                                                               
the committee.  In addition to  the direct benefits  of receiving                                                               
some  royalty,  the  associated economic  security  benefits  are                                                               
significant.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:49:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  agreed that the  legislature honing in  on some                                                               
of  the cost  could ripple  out to  a much  larger impact  on the                                                               
entire  economy. That  is  the driving  motivation  as the  state                                                               
loses its working-age population,  which is impacting the economy                                                               
significantly.  She  noted  the  fiscal  note  is  zero  and  the                                                               
narrative discusses it being indeterminate.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:50:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  said he reviewed  USGS data that  was presented                                                               
over the past 60 years  in the Cook Inlet-Anchorage region. Eight                                                               
trillion cubic feet  of gas was utilized. He  said he understands                                                               
there  is  only an  estimate  of  undiscovered  gas that  is  not                                                               
technically or  economically recoverable. Somewhere  between five                                                               
and 40 trillion  cubic feet still exist, which  is generations of                                                               
potential  gas  in   Cook  Inlet.  The  need   is  immediate.  He                                                               
appreciated  Co-Chair Giessel's  question  about costs,  deferred                                                               
revenue, and what is lost.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:51:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL held SB 194 in committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:52:18 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Co-Chair   Giessel  adjourned   the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 4:52 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 194 Sponsor Statement 2.23.24.pdf SRES 2/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SRES 5/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194, version A.pdf SRES 2/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SRES 5/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Sectional Analysis, version A 2.23.24.pdf SRES 2/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SRES 5/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 DNR Fiscal Note 1.16.24.pdf SRES 2/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SRES 5/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 194
SB 194 Reduce Royalty on Cook Inlet Oil & Gas SRES Presentation 2.23.24.pdf SRES 2/23/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 194