02/08/2013 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES
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| Presentation: What It Takes to Keep Our Legacy Fields Alive. | |
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                      ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                
                 SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                          February 8, 2013                                                                                      
                              3:30 p.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Fred Dyson, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Anna Fairclough                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP OUR LEGACY FIELDS ALIVE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 27                                                                                                              
"An  Act  establishing  authority   for  the  state  to evaluate   and                                                          
seek  primacy for  administering  the regulatory  program  for  dredge                                                          
and  fill activities   allowed  to individual   states  under federal                                                           
law   and  relating   to  the   authority;   and  providing   for   an                                                          
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 27 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 26                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating   to  the  Alaska  Land   Act,  including  certain                                                           
authorizations,   contracts,  leases,  permits,   or other  disposals                                                           
of  state  land,  resources,  property,  or  interests;   relating  to                                                          
authorization   for  the  use  of  state   land  by  general  permit;                                                           
relating  to  exchange  of state  land;  relating  to  procedures  for                                                          
certain  administrative  appeals  and  requests  for  reconsideration                                                           
to the  commissioner  of natural  resources;  relating  to the  Alaska                                                          
Water Use Act; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 26 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  27                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: REGULATION OF DREDGE AND FILL ACTIVITIES                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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BILL: SB  26                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: LAND DISPOSALS/EXCHANGES; WATER RIGHTS                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT JEPSEN, Vice President                                                                                                    
External Affairs                                                                                                                
ConocoPhillips Alaska                                                                                                           
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Discussed the role that technology has                                                                    
played in the development and the off take of the rate on the                                                                   
North Slope.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALAN CAMPBELL, Supervisor                                                                                                       
Greater Kuparuk Area (GKA) Reservoir and Planning                                                                               
ConocoPhillips Alaska                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Was not able to testify because of technical                                                              
teleconference difficulties.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB HEINRICH, Vice President                                                                                                    
Finance                                                                                                                         
ConocoPhillips Alaska                                                                                                           
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Talked  about  how  the  state's  fiscal  policy                                                        
drives investment in Alaska's Legacy Fields.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAMIAN BILBAO, Head of Finance                                                                                                  
BP Exploration Alaska                                                                                                           
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Discussed   how  the   state's  fiscal   policy                                                        
drives investment in Alaska's Legacy Fields.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT DIGERT, Reservoir Management Team Leader                                                                                  
Greater Prudhoe Bay area                                                                                                        
BP Exploration Alaska                                                                                                           
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Discussed   how  the   state's  fiscal   policy                                                        
drives investment in Alaska's Legacy Fields.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN SECKERS, Tax Counsel                                                                                                        
ExxonMobil                                                                                                                      
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Discussed   how  the   state's  fiscal   policy                                                        
drives investment in Alaska's Legacy Fields.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   CATHY   GIESSEL   called   the  Senate   Resources   Standing                                                         
Committee  meeting  to order  at  3:30 p.m.  Present  at  the call  to                                                          
order  were  Senators   Dyson,  Micciche,   Bishop,  Fairclough,   and                                                          
Chair Giessel.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           SB  27-REGULATION OF DREDGE AND FILL ACTIVITIES                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:31:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced SB 27 to be up for consideration.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  moved  to report  SB 27,  version  A,  from committee                                                           
with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  announced  that,  without   objection,  SB  27  passes                                                          
from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:31:59 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 3:31 to 3:34 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
            SB  26-LAND DISPOSALS/EXCHANGES; WATER RIGHTS                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:34:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  called the  meeting  back to  order and  announced  SB
26 to be up for consideration.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE   said  some  of  his  constituents   had  concerns                                                           
about  their ability  to appeal.  His response  was that  they had  to                                                          
become  engaged  at some  point  before  the appeal,  and  the  second                                                          
concern  was water  reservations.  So,  he wanted  to respond  that  a                                                          
person  or NGO  has never  been given  a water  reservation  and  that                                                          
hadn't  changed.  He  also  stated  that  experience  has  shown  that                                                          
groups  or NGO's  with a  good case  are generally  able  to convince                                                           
a  political   subdivision   to  support   their   water  reservation                                                           
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  moved  to report  SB 26,  version  A,  from committee                                                           
to    the   next    committee     of   referral    with    individual                                                           
recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  announced  that,  without   objection,  SB  26  passes                                                          
from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 3:35 to 3:37 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           SB  27-REGULATION OF DREDGE AND FILL ACTIVITIES                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
3:37:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL   reconvened   the  meeting  and   recognized  Senator                                                           
Fairclough.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:37:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  said  she  wanted to  comment  about  a question                                                           
that  was asked  on SB  27. She  explained  that when  the department                                                           
was  before the  committee  she  asked for  a comparison   of the  402                                                          
process  where   the  state  had  successfully   gotten  waste   water                                                          
primacy,  and she  hadn't received  that yet.  She said  she put  a no                                                          
recommendation   on the  [committee  report]  because  she  wanted  to                                                          
know what it looks like from an operating perspective.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: What it takes to keep our legacy fields alive.                                                                   
    Presentation: What it takes to keep our legacy fields alive.                                                            
                                                                                                                              
3:38:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  announced  that  today's  agenda  was  a presentation                                                           
on  what  it  takes   to  keep  our  legacy   fields  alive   and  she                                                          
welcomed the first presenter, Mr. Jepsen from ConocoPhillips.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:39:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SCOTT  JEPSEN,  Vice  President,  External   Affairs,  ConocoPhillips                                                           
Alaska,  Anchorage,  AK, said  he would talk  a little  bit about  the                                                          
role  that technology   has played  in  the development   and the  off                                                          
take  of the  rate  on the  North  Slope.  He would  focus  on  fields                                                          
that  ConocoPhillips  operates;  BP would  focus on  the other  fields                                                          
on  the  North  Slope  and  that  should  cover  other  fields   where                                                          
ConocoPhillips   has an  interest.  This  topic  is  broad  and  deep,                                                          
and today  he  was going  to "tiptoe"  through  it. He  hoped to  give                                                          
them  a good  idea  just  how leveraging   technology  is and  how  it                                                          
will continue to be leverage as the fields continue to mature.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:40:10 PM                                                                                                                    
The first  slide  was a timeline  of the  fields that  ConocoPhillips                                                           
has  operated  on  the  North  Slope.  It  starts  in  1981  with  the                                                          
Kuparuk  Field  and  goes  to  their  development  at  the  CD5  drill                                                          
site  at  Alpine.   In  between  are  major   milestones  related   to                                                          
technology  (for  simplicity  the  others  were left  off);  he  would                                                          
give  them some  idea  of  how they  work  and the  impact  that  they                                                          
have  on production  and development.  The  major milestones  related                                                           
to  technology   are   EOR  (enhanced   oil  recovery)   and  seismic                                                           
evolution (focusing on coil tubing drilling).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He  showed  how   Alpine  had  benefited   from  all  the  historical                                                           
technology  that  had  been  developed   on the  North  Slope,   first                                                          
detailing  how  EOR works.  For example,  the  original  oil in  place                                                          
in  the Kuparuk  Field  was  about  6  billion  barrels,  gigantic  by                                                          
any  standard.  So, you  can  take the  percentages  for  the various                                                           
mechanisms  and  multiply  it  times  the oil  in  place and  come  up                                                          
with  the theoretical  amount  of oil  that one  might  get under  the                                                          
various recovery mechanisms.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  showed  pictures  of a  rock  that  had undergone   some original                                                           
completion  that had  high residual  oil in  it (no  EOR had had  been                                                          
applied).  In a  field like  Kuparuk  you might  get in  the range  of                                                          
15  percent   recovery  without   using  any   EOR,  he  said.   After                                                          
applying  water  flood, the  most  common type  of enhanced  recovery                                                           
used  and that  has been  around for  many  decades, the  rock  looked                                                          
white.  After  applying  a miscible  injectant  (MI)  there  wasn't  a                                                          
whole  lot of oil  left - and  that's their  goal. They  want to  make                                                          
sure  there  is  no  oil  left  in each  reservoir.   But  Mr.  Jepsen                                                          
said, the real world is not quite a clean as these pictures.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  how much  recovery  happened  after  water                                                          
flood.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN   replied  about   35  percent  recovery   and  injecting                                                           
miscible  gas results  in  about 8-10  percent  more, but  even  under                                                          
the  best  of  conditions  there  are  billions  of  barrels  left  in                                                          
these reservoirs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:50 PM                                                                                                                    
The  way water  flood  works,  you drill  a well,  inject  water  into                                                          
it and  that  provides pressure  to  push oil  towards  the producing                                                           
well;  the   water  itself  tends   to  sweep  the  oil  out   of  the                                                          
reservoir.   At Kuparuk   they  also  employed  a  technology   called                                                          
immiscible  water-alternating   gas  injection  (WAG).   He explained                                                           
that  in the early  days  Kuparuk produced  a  lot of  gas but  didn't                                                          
have  any place  to store  it.  So, they  injected  it back  into  the                                                          
reservoir,   itself.  This  started   to  create  a  very  large   gas                                                          
bubble,  which made  production  a bit  of an  issue,  because in  the                                                          
end a  lot of  gas might  be produced  and very  little  oil. So,  the                                                          
engineers  got  very  creative  and  suggested  injecting  a  slug  of                                                          
gas  followed  by a  slug of  water  followed  by a  slug  of gas  and                                                          
spreading  this  process  out  over the  entire  field.  That allowed                                                           
them  to  lower  the   gas  saturation  from  what   was  in  the  gas                                                          
injection  area  (which  also  helped  push some  of  the oil  out  of                                                          
the  reservoir).   After  that  they   followed  up  with  immiscible                                                           
alternating   gas  process   which   means  they   took  natural   gas                                                          
liquids   NGL,  some  of  which   are  produced   indigenous   to  the                                                          
Kuparuk  field and  some of which  are brought  in from  Prudhoe  Bay,                                                          
and  mixed   it  with   the  lean   gas  and  created   the  miscible                                                           
injectant.  "Miscible"  means if  you could  see this  process in  the                                                          
reservoir  you  would  see  a really  smooth  interface   between  the                                                          
two  fluids   which  helps   control  the  flood   itself.  Then   the                                                          
miscible  injectant  actually  acts  like  it's washing  the  rock  as                                                          
it moves  through  the reservoir  removing  the residual  oil that  is                                                          
left  behind when  the oil  itself  moves forward  in  the reservoir.                                                           
This  is  followed  with  water  and  if  another  slug   of miscible                                                           
injectant  is  needed  they will  do that.  About  two-thirds  of  the                                                          
Kuparuk  field has  undergone  miscible  injectant.  The rest depends                                                           
on technical  analysis  of how  well it's  going to  work (a function                                                           
of  reservoir  quality)  whether  all the  facilities  are  out  there                                                          
and  a  number  of  other  factors.   It  has  been  one  of  the  key                                                          
components  to maintaining  the  recovery  rate in the  Kuparuk  River                                                          
field.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:47:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. JEPSON  said  seismic is  another type  of leveraging  technology                                                           
for recovery.  In  1967, 2D seismic  gave  them a very  rough idea  of                                                          
geology,  but  no detail;  it gave  a  poor idea  of faulting  in  the                                                          
Kuparuk  field  at first.  Back  then they  would  run 2D  swat  data,                                                          
which  means they  ran a number  of lines  fairly close  together  and                                                          
then  skipped  tens  of miles  and  did another  set  of  lines  close                                                          
together  and then  ran another  set  that was  at a 90  degree  angle                                                          
to that  and so on.  The information  from  this kind  of data gave  a                                                          
very   rough  idea   of   the  subsurface;    you  could   see   large                                                          
geological  structures  and  might be  able to  pick out  some  sands,                                                          
but no  fine detail.  They had  a very poor  idea of  how faulted  the                                                          
Kuparuk  field  was  when  they  first  started  developing   it,  but                                                          
after  shooting  3D  seismic   in the  mid-1980s   they  found  a  lot                                                          
more.  So that radically  changed  how they  developed  the field;  it                                                          
meant  they  were going  to  drill  a lot  more  wells  and  do a  lot                                                          
more analysis  to  make sure  they efficiently  swept  the oil out  of                                                          
the field.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Fast  forwarding  to  this  decade,  Mr. Jepsen  said  4D  seismic  is                                                          
now  being done.  This means  they  shoot a  seismic survey  and  then                                                          
come back  some time  later (one  or three  years) and  shoot another                                                           
survey  over the  same area.  They compare  those surveys  and,  based                                                          
upon  some  processing  technology,  they  can  see  areas  where  the                                                          
character  of  the  acoustic  signal  has changed.   That can  mean  a                                                          
lot  of   things.  So,  the   engineers  go   back  in  and   look  at                                                          
geological   and   production   data  from   the  well   pattern   and                                                          
reservoir  models  and  try  to  decide  if  it means  they  bypassed                                                           
some  oil or  where  they need  to add  injector.  The  real leverage                                                           
is that  it highlights  the areas  where  they need  to focus because                                                           
it shows more potential.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:49:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  if switching  technologies   is why  wells                                                          
aren't  being drilled  on  the North  Slope  now, because  people  are                                                          
trying to determine the best place to pursue a resource.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN  answered  the amount  of drilling  they are  doing now  is                                                          
a function  of  the  tax system  in  the state.  Between  Kuparuk  and                                                          
Alpine  three  and  half  rigs  running  and  the  decision  to  bring                                                          
more  drilling tools  up to  the North  Slope  will be  a function  of                                                          
how  the state  competes  overall with  other  places where  money  is                                                          
being invested right now.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  if  all  things  were equal  inside  of  a                                                          
taxing  environment  if they  are drilling  as  many wells  with  this                                                          
new technology as they have in the past.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN  replied  that they  didn't have  this kind  of technology                                                           
15 years  ago, but  they are  trying to  work through  the candidates                                                           
they have in a reasonable fashion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:52:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE  asked if  they  are producing  more  water because                                                           
of  the  EOR  specifically   or  just  because   of  what  is  in  the                                                          
formations as oil becomes scarcer.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN  replied  that the  water  rate  is going  up  because  of                                                          
the  water   injection.   The  initial   drive  for   the  field   was                                                          
primarily  solution   drive  meaning  expansion  of  the  oil through                                                           
gas expansion.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP asked if he meant the water adds no value.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN said  he  meant the  water  adds value  through  the  role                                                          
that  it plays  in producing  more  oil.  He moved  on to  describe  a                                                          
breakthrough  in  coil tubing  drilling  that  is employed  primarily                                                           
on  the  North  Slope  because   of  its  unique  circumstances.   The                                                          
North  Slope  was  developed  from  an  onshore  platform   on  gravel                                                          
pads,  drilling  directionally  to  access  the  reservoir.  As  these                                                          
fields  matured and  other places  were  identified  for drilling,  it                                                          
became   a  lot  more  cost   effective  to   think  about  using   an                                                          
existing  well bore  not  only because  drilling  a new  well is  more                                                          
expensive,   but   because   of   the   constraints   on   pad   size,                                                          
facilities   and   permitting.    This   technology   was   developed                                                           
primarily  at Prudhoe  Bay  to go  back into  Prudhoe  Bay well  bores                                                          
and  do "side  traps."  Coil  tubing  itself  has  been around  for  a                                                          
while,  but  the  real breakthrough   came  from  trying  to downsize                                                           
the  drilling  tools to  put  on the  end of  it.  The steel  coil  is                                                          
stored  on a  reel and  is  continuous  for thousands  of  feet;  it's                                                          
highly  flexible,  so very  short  radius  turns can  be  made to  get                                                          
into  a  reservoir  after  milling  through  the  well  bore.  In  the                                                          
late  90s  that  technology  was  pushed  further  by downsizing   the                                                          
tools  more to get  into even  smaller 3.5  inch tubing  (from 4  inch                                                          
tubing)  that  existed  in  most of  the  Kuparuk  wells.  Today  this                                                          
technology is being used for some really exotic things.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:57:00 PM                                                                                                                    
He  showed  a  graph  of Kuparuk  field  production   and  noted  that                                                          
they  are getting  about  22 percent,  25,000  barrels a  day, out  of                                                          
EOR  and  27,000  barrels  a day  out  of  what  was labeled  "Base."                                                           
They  got  other  production  out  of  well  workovers,  stimulations                                                           
and  "refracs"   that  are  called  "well   interventions."   The  top                                                          
layer indicated production from the satellites.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN  said  Tarn was brought  on in  the late  1990s along  with                                                          
Tabasco,   Melt   Water  and   West  Sak,   which   have  contributed                                                           
substantially   to  production.  If  they  hadn't  done  any  of  that                                                          
work  and  just  stayed  with  the  base production,   they  would  be                                                          
producing  about 27,000  barrels  a day  rather than  112,000 barrels                                                           
a  day. Clearly,  he  said,  ConocoPhillips  had  been  investing  and                                                          
putting  a lot of  time and  effort into  maintaining  production  and                                                          
increase recovery.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:58:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  JEPSEN  moved  to  the  "Alpine  story".  It  was discovered   in                                                          
1994  and   came  on  stream   in  2000.  It   really  represented   a                                                          
breakthrough  in  terms of  field  development  as he  couldn't  think                                                          
of  any   other  field   that  was   developed  from   day-one   using                                                          
horizontal  injector   producer  pairs;  it saved  on  the  number  of                                                          
wells  that  are needed.  It  was a  tough  sell  within ARCO  at  the                                                          
time,  which  is where  he  was  working.  But the  other  thing  that                                                          
was  a  little   unique  about  Alpine   at  the  time  is  that   the                                                          
Secretary  of  the  Department   of  Interior  didn't  want  anything                                                           
they  built   in  the   wetlands  of   the  Coleville   River   to  be                                                          
connected  with the  Kuparuk  or the North  Slope  infrastructure.  So                                                          
they  agreed   to  do  this  as  a  means   to  get  the  permit   for                                                          
development   and  even  now  there   is  no  road  that  permanently                                                           
connects  Alpine  to the  rest of  the North  Slope. That  results  in                                                          
increased  costs,  particularly   during the  summer  time  when  they                                                          
have to  fly or  boat everything  in. In  the winter  time they  build                                                          
an  ice road  and  try  to move  as  much stuff  over  there  as  they                                                          
can.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:59:51 PM                                                                                                                    
Alpine  has benefited  from all  the technology  he  had described  so                                                          
far,  Mr.  Jepsen  explained.  ConocoPhillips   does  4D  seismic  and                                                          
EOR  and uses  extended  reach  drilling,  and is  moving  ahead  with                                                          
its  next  development  out  there,  the CD5  drill  site  (NPRA).  It                                                          
took  about  five  years to  get  the  permit  and this  will  be  the                                                          
first  production out  of NPR-A  that gets  to one of  the key  issues                                                          
that  producers  face  in Alaska,   which is  cycle  time  from  first                                                          
deciding  to  do something  to  first  production,  because  it  takes                                                          
years.  In  other  places  in  the  Lower  48,  like  Texas,  you  are                                                          
talking months.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  if that  is  because  land is  in private                                                           
ownership in other places versus state ownership in Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN  answered  partly,  but it  has more  to do  with the  fact                                                          
that  on North  Slope  if  you're going  to  put  a drill  site  down,                                                          
you can't  just put  it down  and drive on  it. If you  do, your  rigs                                                          
will  sink up  to the  tops of  their  wheels and  you  won't be  able                                                          
to  get them  out; your  trucks  will  sink in,  too. You  just  can't                                                          
operate.  So, if  you are  going  to operate  efficiently  on gravel,                                                           
you  have   to  mine  it,   dry  it  and  place   it;  after   it  has                                                          
"seasoned"  then  you  can move  on  it. In  addition,  a  lot of  the                                                          
North  Slope  is  pretty  fragile  ecosystem   and  require  wet  land                                                          
permits. "It's just the environment they are in."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN said  he would  let Mr.  Campbell  talk about  future  EOR                                                          
technology,  since  he  is  an expert.  He  stated  that  they  aren't                                                          
done trying to innovate in these fields, but it won't be cheap.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:02:02 PM                                                                                                                    
ALAN  CAMPBELL, Greater  Kuparuk  Area (GKA)  Reservoir  and Planning                                                           
Supervisor, ConocoPhillips Alaska, introduced himself.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:03:34 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 4:03:34 to 4:03:46 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:03:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  JEPSEN said  he would  cover  for Mr.  Campbell,  because of  the                                                          
teleconferencing   difficulties.   Some  of the  problems   they  deal                                                          
with are  just making  sure  they inject  things like  miscible  fluid                                                          
or  water   that  moves  through   the  reservoir   in  a  flood-like                                                           
fashion,  meaning  it doesn't  move through  certain  portions  faster                                                          
than  others. So,  they look  at things  like  polymers  to make  sure                                                          
of getting  a  smooth front  when  using injections.  They  also  look                                                          
at chemical  EOR  where additional  chemicals  are injected  into  the                                                          
reservoir  to  further   get  more  oil off  of  the  rock  particles                                                           
themselves  and  thermal  and non-thermal  techniques  for  heavy  oil                                                          
recovery   (like   steam  injection   and   propane).   There  is   no                                                          
economically  viable  process  for producing  heavy oil  on the  North                                                          
Slope  even  though   it  is  a  very  large  resource   and  that  is                                                          
probably still decades away.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  said he  had been  told  that C02  is  really helpful                                                           
in  lifting  heavy   oil  and  wanted  him  to  comment   on  that  in                                                          
addition to telling him what "Darcy" is.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN  replied  that  "Darcy"  is  a measure  of  permeability.                                                           
The  higher  the  Darcy  number  the more  permeable   it is  and  the                                                          
easier  fluids  flow through  it. CO2  can  be beneficial  in getting                                                           
heavy  oil,   but  where  ConocoPhillips   is  working  it   won't  be                                                          
miscible  like  he described  earlier.  It can  do things  like  swell                                                          
the  oil  or reduce  viscosity,   but there  are  lots  of  issues  in                                                          
terms  of trying  to  inject CO2  and  have it  contact  very much  of                                                          
the  fluid. Because  there  is  such a  vast  difference  between  the                                                          
viscosity  of the  CO2 and the  viscosity  of the oil  that typically                                                           
when  you inject  it, it's  just  going to  the highest  permeability                                                           
zone  like a  dart resulting  in "conformance   issues."   They do  it                                                          
in  small areas,  but  you're  just  not efficiently   or effectively                                                           
contacting  much of  the reservoir.  That's  not to say  it's not  one                                                          
of the tools that they continue to try to look at.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  asked  if he  thought  we ever  will  be able  to  get                                                          
credit from the feds for injecting carbon.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN  replied  he hoped  so,  but  he also  hoped  they  didn't                                                          
have to  get into  that world  either. He  wanted to  leave them  with                                                          
the thought  that  there is a  lot of potential  still  out there  and                                                          
that they  are working  on it,  but it's  going to  be expensive.  The                                                          
Legacy  Fields are  the big  target  and that  is where  they can  get                                                          
a quick  return for  their investments,   much quicker  than in  other                                                          
places.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:07:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE  asked  if  he  was talking   about more  expensive                                                           
octa-lats  (octalateral   well)  and  that  sort  of  technology   for                                                          
infield legacy production.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN  answered  yes, that  is what  they are doing  these  days.                                                          
As  they  move  toward   the  flanks  of  the  field,   they  are  now                                                          
developing 10 ft. thick sands that weren't economic 30 years ago                                                                
The  easy oil  is  gone.  Initially,  when  they drill  the  wells  at                                                          
Kuparuk  they'd  get  a 5,000  barrel  a  day  well,  no water  and  a                                                          
little  bit of associated  gas;  at Prudhoe  Bay you'd  get 15,000  to                                                          
20,000  barrel  a day  well. Today  they  don't  get those  rates  and                                                          
often   times   after  they   have   drilled   some   pretty  complex                                                           
sophisticated  wells  they get  some water  back with  it as well.  It                                                          
doesn't   mean  the   target   isn't  there,   but   that  it's   more                                                          
expensive and more challenged.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:09:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DYSON said  many of  the new fields  do not  produce as  much                                                          
as one well at Kuparuk.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN  agreed  that  these  fields  are prolific   and continue                                                           
being  so.  For   an  idea  of  how  much  costs  have   gone  up,  he                                                          
compared  the  initial  Alpine  development  and  a  picture  of  what                                                          
the CD-5  will probably  look  like. Alpine  had 92  wells and a  full                                                          
production   train,  living  quarters   and  an  airport,   two  drill                                                          
sites  and cost  about $1.4  billion.  Thirteen  years  later CD-5  is                                                          
16  wells  (maybe  as  much  as 21),  a  small  drill  site,  a  short                                                          
bridge,  a road and  a couple  of pipelines  that connect  it back  to                                                          
Alpine  and cost  about $1 billion.  The  price of doing  business  on                                                          
the  North  Slope has  gone  up  and there  is  more competition   for                                                          
the  equipment  needed up  there  as well.  He  could drill  way  more                                                          
than  15 wells  for $1  billion  anywhere  else in  the  Lower 48  and                                                          
not have to wait years to get it on stream.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP asked for examples of cost drivers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN answered   steel, labor,  day  rates  on wells,  and  cost                                                          
of fluids;  everything  up  here has  just gone  up much  faster  than                                                          
the rate of inflation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:12:11 PM                                                                                                                    
BOB  HEINRICH,   Vice  President,  Finance,   ConocoPhillips  Alaska,                                                           
Anchorage,  AK,  said he  would set  the stage  on why  ACES inhibits                                                           
investment.  He  showed  the  PFC analysis  of  different  countries'                                                           
fiscal  regimes  on  an average  government  take  calculation   using                                                          
$100/bbl  price  of oil.  The average  government  take  is the  ratio                                                          
of  the  amount  of  compensation   paid  to  taxing  authorities   or                                                          
third   parties   for   third-party   royalties    compared   to   the                                                          
available cash.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:13:13 PM                                                                                                                    
PFC  broke  ACES  into  new  developments   and  existing  production                                                           
activities.  Under  both cases  ACES  shows up  at the  higher end  of                                                          
the  taxing  jurisdictions   that  average  70-75  percent.   This  is                                                          
typically   higher   than   OECD   countries    that  carry   similar                                                           
political  risk and  places where  ConocoPhillips  spends  a big  part                                                          
of its capital budget each year.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:13:58 PM                                                                                                                    
ACES  is  part  of  the problem   making  not  only  the  average  tax                                                          
rate,  but  the  marginal  government   share  part  of the  problem,                                                           
too.   The  state's   share   includes   royalties,    property   tax,                                                          
production   taxes  and  state  income   taxes;  then  there   is  the                                                          
federal  portion.   To  illustrate  the  marginal  tax  concept,   Mr.                                                          
Heinrich  said  under ACES  when oil  prices  increased  from $100  to                                                          
$101  at  a marginal   state/federal  tax  rate  of  80  percent,  the                                                          
producer  only retains  20 cents  of that  dollar increase  in  price.                                                          
Due  to   the  fact   of  progressivity   as  prices   increase,   the                                                          
producer  receives  less  and  less of  the  incremental  dollar.  For                                                          
every  dollar end  cost they  can reduce  at today's  prices, only  28                                                          
cents of that dollar comes back to their bottom line.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HEINRICH said  as they  evaluate  projects  across  the range  of                                                          
prices,  the  concept   of marginal   share  actually  impacts   their                                                          
analysis of investment decisions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:15:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP asked  if he  had authorization  for  expenditures  in                                                          
Kuparuk that aren't funded at this time.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL interrupted  saying  they  are talking  about the  cost                                                          
of  technology  today  and  would get  into  the  fiscals  at another                                                           
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  said  even though  it  costs  a lot  more  to produce                                                           
the  oil now  that  he thought  the  state  let them  deduct  all  the                                                          
expenses. Was he missing something?                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.   JEPSEN  answered   yes;   they   get   to  deduct   Capex   when                                                          
calculating  the  production  tax value  on which  ACES  is based  and                                                          
then  see  what  the   average  tax  rate  would  be.   But  from  his                                                          
perspective,  that  was  done  because ACES  is  so egregiously   high                                                          
that  they  are  still talking   average  tax  rates of  70  with  all                                                          
those deductions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  asked  him  to clarify  the  20  percent  they  didn't                                                          
get paid back on.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPESEN explained  that  he was  describing  that  ACES is  based                                                          
on  the  production  tax  value  of  the  oil,  a  net  cash  type  of                                                          
system.  So, if ConocoPhillips   does something  to save  a dollar  in                                                          
operating  costs  they will  only see  20 cents  of that,  because  it                                                          
increases production tax value, which increases their tax rate.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:20:06 PM                                                                                                                    
In  summary,  he said  technology   and innovation   have been  a  key                                                          
role  on the North  Slope  and will  be important  in  the future.  He                                                          
encouraged  the legislature  to  consider  the fact that  they are  at                                                          
a  disadvantage   because   of  Alaska's   remoteness,   high   costs,                                                          
transportation  costs  and putting  the framework  of  the state  in a                                                          
way  that makes  other  regimes  look good.  But  if you  are looking                                                           
to level  the playing  field,  given all  the other  things they  have                                                          
to  contend  with,  looking   at production   incentives   for  Legacy                                                          
fields is going to be important.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:20:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE  asked  looking  30 years  out  if things  are  more                                                          
economical  and  ConocoPhillips  continues   producing,  is increased                                                           
production  on  the perimeter  of  those fields  more  likely because                                                           
the  probability  of  infrastructure  being  built  might  make  outer                                                          
areas more attractive.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN answered   as they  move towards  the  "feather  edge"  of                                                          
the  reservoir,  he couldn't  speculate  on  what  else might  be  out                                                          
there.  But right  now, because  these  are marginal,  infrastructure                                                           
is  being   minimized   now.  The   only  place   ConocoPhillips   has                                                          
expanded  so  far is  in  the southwest   portion  of Kuparuk  the  2S                                                          
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:21:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL thanked  him  and said  they would  hear  next from  BP                                                          
Exploration   Alaska,  one  of  the   operators  in  Prudhoe   Bay  on                                                          
technology  and  efficiencies  since  1977  and how  it  has affected                                                           
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:22:25 PM                                                                                                                    
DAMIAN BILBAO, Head of  Finance, BP Exploration Alaska, Anchorage, AK,                                                          
introduced himself.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  DIGERT,  Reservoir  Management   Team  Leader  in  the Greater                                                           
Prudhoe   Bay   area,   BP   Exploration   Alaska,   Anchorage,    AK,                                                          
introduced  himself.  He  had worked  in  Alaska  but was  working  in                                                          
London  for  ARCO   when  it  merged  with  BP  and  "jumped   at  the                                                          
opportunity" to come back here.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BILBAO  said  that  BP had  a  long  track  record  of employing                                                           
technology,  which  he  would  go into  in  depth  today.  While  they                                                          
operate  other fields  on the  North Slope,  today he  would focus  on                                                          
Prudhoe  Bay, North  America's  largest  oil field.  He  said that  BP                                                          
operates   Prudhoe  Bay  with  a  26  percent   working  interest   on                                                          
behalf of co-venturers, ConocoPhillips ExxonMobil and Chevron.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  said that  Prudhoe  Bay covers  over  300 square  miles  and  when                                                          
it  was originally  discovered   the oil  in place  was  estimated  to                                                          
be  approximately   23   billion  barrels   with   an  additional   40                                                          
tcf/gas.  With   the  technology  of  the  time,  BP  estimated   they                                                          
would  be  able  to recover  approximately   9  billion  barrels,  but                                                          
they   have   recovered   12   billion   barrels   so  far   and   see                                                          
opportunity  to  produce up  to 14  billion in  total  using some  new                                                          
technologies.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:25:09 PM                                                                                                                    
They have  not only  improved  the recovery  at Prudhoe  Bay but  have                                                          
also  been  able  to  share  the learning   from  Prudhoe  with  other                                                          
fields  on the  North Slope  and  elsewhere  in the  world, evidenced                                                           
in  part  by  the  more  than  200  Society  of  Petroleum  Engineers                                                           
technical   papers   that   have   been   written   about   it.   BP's                                                          
operations   at  Prudhoe   Bay  are   a  case  study   in  oil   field                                                          
development   where  young  and  up-and-coming  technical   folks  get                                                          
trained, many from the University of Alaska system.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:26:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BILBAO  said  BP always  starts  by  looking  to their  strategy                                                           
for  guidance;   it  defines   what  opportunities   they  focus   on.                                                          
Billions  of  barrels  can  be recovered  and  the  question  is  what                                                          
order  they  are recovered   in, which  ones  meet  all  the multiple                                                           
criteria  that   have  to  be  met  in  order  for  them  to  compete                                                           
locally  for  investment.  First  they  ask  themselves  what  can  be                                                          
done in  the area  of efficiency  and they  have already  heard  today                                                          
about  some of  the challenges  faced  in Alaska  and  growing  costs.                                                          
They  are also  very proud  of their  good  safety performance;   2012                                                          
was  the  safest  year  on  record,  a  60  percent  reduction   since                                                          
2009.  The  other  areas  they  look  at are  technology   and  fiscal                                                          
policy,  but today  they  would focus  on technology.   He turned  the                                                          
conversation over to Mr. Digert.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DIGERT  took  them  to  a  cartoon  illustration   of  how  their                                                          
Prudhoe  Bay  reservoir  is  laid  out  and what  they  have  done  to                                                          
develop  it  on  the  surface.  Underground  Prudhoe  Bay  is  a  very                                                          
large  oil reservoir  with  a  very large  gas  cap overlying  it  and                                                          
water  underneath  oil. Their  wells  produce  a mixture  of oil,  gas                                                          
and   water  that   comes  up   through   their  flow   stations   and                                                          
gathering  centers.  Those process  the oil  and prepare  it for  sale                                                          
down the  TAPS to  Valdez where  they export  by tanker  primarily  to                                                          
the West Coast for refining and marketing.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  gas produced  goes  to  the  central  gas facility  where  it  is                                                          
chilled  and  processed  to  remove  the  natural  gas  liquids  (NGL)                                                          
which  gets blended  back into  the oil  pipeline also  for transport                                                           
through  TAPS  and sale.  A portion  of  the NGLs  is mixed  with  gas                                                          
to make  miscible  injectant.  The rest  of the  gas is  used as  fuel                                                          
for Slope  operations:  compression  (mostly),  power  and light.  The                                                          
majority  of  the  gas,   dry  residual  gas,  goes  to  the  central                                                           
compressor  plant   where  it's  compressed  back  to  4,500  psi  and                                                          
injected  back  into the  gas cap  where  it is  used to  support  the                                                          
reservoir pressure that helps produce out the oil.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
In addition  to  re-injecting  the  gas Mr.  Digert said  they  inject                                                          
water,  initially,  sea water  that  pushes the  oil sideways  to  the                                                          
producing  wells.   As  water  is  produced  out  with  the  produced                                                           
fluids,  it  gets  processed   and  re-injected   all  back  into  the                                                          
reservoir for pressure management.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:30:18 PM                                                                                                                    
A  northeast   slice   of  the   reservoir   through   the  southwest                                                           
revealed  the same  volume of  gas cap as  in the oil  rim, a massive                                                           
amount  of reservoir  pressure  sitting  on  top of  the  oil. If  you                                                          
drilled  a vertical  well  down through  this  part of  the reservoir                                                           
Mr.  Digert  said,  you  would  basically  hit  oil and  gas  and  not                                                          
much  else. This  is called  the gas  cap area.  In the  main part  of                                                          
the  reservoir  you  would drill  down  and  find  some gas,  but  you                                                          
would  also  find  a  very   large  oil  column  called  the  gravity                                                           
drainage  area.  Farther  to  the  south  is an  area  where  all  you                                                          
would  hit was oil  and that  is what they  use as  their water  flood                                                          
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:30 PM                                                                                                                    
He  explained   that   a  couple  of   different   methodologies   and                                                          
technologies   are  employed  to  produce  the  oil.  In  the gravity                                                           
drainage  area the  gravity drainage  itself  is used  to produce  the                                                          
oil.   The  gently   dipping   structure   was  exaggerated   in   the                                                          
cartoon,  but  it actually   dips at  about  1-2 degrees  so  the  oil                                                          
actually  drains  downhill  and  gets produced  at  the bottom  -  the                                                          
pressurized  gas  on top  pushing down  on the  oil to  the producing                                                           
wells.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DIGERT said  the  gas cap  area  has some  oil.  Originally,  the                                                          
reservoir  was  much  flatter   and  was  filled  with  oil.  When  it                                                          
tilted,  it left  some oil  behind in  the gas  cap. So,  if they  re-                                                          
inject  their  lean  gas  up  there  in addition   to supporting   the                                                          
gravity  drainage  mechanism,  they  get  something  called  lean  gas                                                          
injection  that  vaporizes  those  remaining  barrels  that  are  very                                                          
low saturations and produce them as well.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. DIGERT  said  a lot of technology  is  used with  water flood  not                                                          
just  in  injecting  but  what  they   add  to the  water.   Can  they                                                          
inject  into   different   layers  or  inhibit   the  more  permeable                                                           
layers  and force  water to go  into the  less permeable  layers.  So,                                                          
they use  a technology  now  called bright  water, which  is actually                                                           
a polymer  that  is injected  out  into the  reservoir  that goes  out                                                          
with  the   water  and  reaches   fairly  deep   into  the  reservoir                                                           
(1,000-1,500  feet)  and then  the  polymer pops  open  and starts  to                                                          
block  off the  preferential  flow  paths  and divert  the  water  off                                                          
into other flow paths and push more oil up and around it.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:32:49 PM                                                                                                                    
The  use  of  miscible  gas  injection   was  pioneered  at  Kuparuk;                                                           
initial   patents  were  all   filed  around   the  Prudhoe  Bay   and                                                          
Kuparuk  process.   Having  the  gas available   to  use  as miscible                                                           
injectant   is  very  effective.   At  Kuparuk  they  use  the   water                                                          
alternating  gas  (WAG)  technology  that alternately   injects  water                                                          
and gas.  The  gas mobilizes  the oil  that  has been  left behind  by                                                          
the  water  and  the   water  comes  behind  it  and  pushes   it  out                                                          
towards the producing wells.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:33:41 PM                                                                                                                    
Today  the gas  has  moved  down into  the  reservoir,  but  not in  a                                                          
uniform  manner.  The  shale zones  are  impermeable  (water  and  oil                                                          
can't  pass  through  them)  and  some  of  the  gas  has  moved  down                                                          
underneath  and left  oil sitting  on top.  In places  where they  are                                                          
injecting  it  tends to  ride on  top  of those  and leave  oil  below                                                          
the  shale,  and  a  very  complex  area  in  the  center  called  the                                                          
gravity  drainage  water  flood  interaction   zone  has  both  things                                                          
occurring.  So,  both water  and oil  are intermixed  with  very  thin                                                          
layers of oil.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:33:58 PM                                                                                                                    
So,  these days  instead  of having  one  well to  the bottom  of  the                                                          
reservoir   they  need  to   go  find  the   oil  and  that   is  very                                                          
difficult,  because  it is  so intermixed  now.  A lot  of technology                                                           
-  seismic,  drilling  logging  - is  employed  in  finding  it.  They                                                          
are  looking for  oil up  against  faults or  around shales  that  has                                                          
been  left behind.  And then  use horizontal  drilling  technology  to                                                          
put  the  bit   into  those  unswept   areas  of  the  reservoir.   In                                                          
Kuparuk  they  are  now drilling  targets   that are  around  10  feet                                                          
thick  with remaining  oil  (with  potentially  a  lot of  gas on  top                                                          
of it)  in some  places  and wondering  how  to get below  that.  When                                                          
he  left  Alaska  the first  time  in  1992,  if the  oil  column  was                                                          
less  than  100  feet,  they  didn't  even  bother   trying  to  drill                                                          
there, because it was considered sub-commercial.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Digert said  in 1980  they produced  1.5  million  barrels a  day                                                          
from  the field  with a  little bit  of water  and handled  about  2.5                                                          
bcf/gas  a day  to produce  that oil.  By 1990  they were  on decline                                                           
making  1.3  million  barrels  a  day  and  producing  a  substantial                                                           
volume  of water  (from the  water floods),  and had  increased  their                                                          
gas  handling  up to  about 7.5  bcf/day.  By 2000,  gas  had further                                                           
expanded  to the  almost  9 bcf/day  on  peak days  and  oil was  down                                                          
to 550,000  barrels  with  far more  water  being produced  than  oil.                                                          
Today,  they are  producing about  300,000  barrels of  oil a day  and                                                          
up to  1.2 million  barrels of  water a  day, bringing  and injecting                                                           
another  900,000   barrels  of  sea  water  that  brings  that  up  to                                                          
almost  2.1 million  barrels  of  water  a day.  So, today  they  have                                                          
an oil  field  that is  masquerading  as a  gas field,  producing  gas                                                          
with a lot of water that has a bit of oil coming out with it.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  asked  as  the oil  gets  thinner  does  it  become                                                          
more technically challenging.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DIGERT answered  yes.  By "thinner"  he  meant two  things:  some                                                          
of  it is  some oil  remaining  between  thin layers  of  sand  stone,                                                          
but typically  that  oil column  is a small  band of  oil with  either                                                          
gas  or water  sitting  on top  of it,  both of  which  they will  try                                                          
and comb through and preferentially produce the gas.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:37:12 PM                                                                                                                    
He explained  that  when  they first  discovered  the  reservoir  they                                                          
thought  they had  about  23.1 billion  barrels  of oil  in place  and                                                          
believe  that is  still accurate.  With the  technology  they have  in                                                          
place  assuming they  were going  to cycle  gas and  re-inject it  and                                                          
perform   water  floods,   they  expect  it   to  produce  about   9.6                                                          
billion  barrels,  a  42 percent  recovery  expectation.   Today  they                                                          
have  produced  12  billion   barrels,  about  52  percent  recovery.                                                           
They  have  hopes of  getting  up  to around  14  billion  barrels  if                                                          
they  can execute  their  50-year  future  and that  would  exceed  60                                                          
percent  recovery,   which  would   be  a  phenomenal  increase   from                                                          
where they thought they would be initially.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
To get  here  there they  had several  major  advances  starting  with                                                          
water  flooding in  1981, which  required  construction  of two  water                                                          
treatment   plants,   new  injection   wells  and   a  pressurization                                                           
facility  to  pressurize  the sea  water,  a series  of  gas handling                                                           
expansions  (GHX)   and another   project  to  expand  their  MI  with                                                          
another  bcf/day.  In  1986,  they  also  started  up  a  central  gas                                                          
facility,   which  allowed  them  to  go  from  2.5  bcf/day   to  3.9                                                          
bcf/day.   This   is  also   where  they   started   making  miscible                                                           
injectant  and  the  NGLs which  are  blended  with  the oil  and  the                                                          
EOR process with the WAG cycles.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DIGERT said  all this  EOR took  a lot  of continued  investment                                                           
but it  also allowed  them to  extend the  field life  substantially.                                                           
They  originally  built  with  a  30-year  design  standard  and  that                                                          
was  passed  in  2007  and  they  are  still  here  sustaining   those                                                          
facilities  and working  to ensure  safe  and reliable  operations  in                                                          
the future.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:39:40 PM                                                                                                                    
In addition  to the  facility  work, he  said the initial  wells  were                                                          
completed  in  the first  decades  with  well  spacing  of 160-acres.                                                           
Prudhoe  Bay  produced  1.5  million  barrels  a  day  and  then  they                                                          
doubled  the spacing  so  they  are now  down to  80 acres  per  well.                                                          
Today  BP  is  drilling   to  target  "unswept   zones,"  areas   that                                                          
haven't  drained   effectively.   Like  at  Kuparuk,  most   of  those                                                          
wells  are being  done as  side tracks  with  either a  rotary rig  or                                                          
coil  tubing rig  to try  and reuse  existing  facilities,  pad  space                                                          
and flow lines. This has been a very effective focus.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:41:13 PM                                                                                                                    
They  also found  a couple  of  decades  into the  field,  the use  of                                                          
rigs  and coil  tubing  units and  other  non-re-activities  for  well                                                          
work  became   increasingly   important,   because   they  were   very                                                          
mature aging wells.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DIGERT  said he  would  like  to show  them  new  activities  and                                                          
facilities  BP  had  built  since  2007,  but  they  don't  have  any.                                                          
They  have not  been able  to find  the right  combination  of  fiscal                                                          
climate  and production  target  to justify  going forward  with  long                                                          
term  investments  at Prudhoe  Bay.  That 2007  coincides  with  ACES.                                                          
It's  very difficult  to go  back and  look  at these  sorts of  long-                                                          
term  investments   -   investing   billions  of   dollars  in   water                                                          
expansion  -  because  they  pay out  very  slowly.  So,  their  focus                                                          
now  is  on well  work  and  rig  activity,  which  has  a relatively                                                           
short  payout   and  allows   them  to  continue   to  be  cash   flow                                                          
positive in today's environment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:41:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DIGERT  went to  slide  7 that  showed  a 6  percent  decline  of                                                          
production  at  Prudhoe  Bay Ivishak,  but  it would  have  been  much                                                          
steeper  (more  like a 21  percent)  without  their rig  activity.  BP                                                          
is  proud  of  the  fact  that  they  have  been  very  diligent   and                                                          
finding  ways  to  innovate  and  bring  on  the  additional  barrels                                                           
through using rigs and existing technology.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  if  the  decrease  in  production   every                                                          
July is because they are getting ready for the next season.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DIGERT replied  that  was a  good observation  and  the decrease                                                           
in  activity  is  a  combination  of  two  things:   their  rates  are                                                          
general  lower   in the  summer   because  they  actually   make  less                                                          
energy  through  their  big  compression   gas turbines   with  warmer                                                          
temperatures,   so  they  can't  produce  as  much  gas  (their   peak                                                          
rates  are  in  the winter),   plus  that  is usually  combined   with                                                          
turnaround at their facilities for maintenance.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:44:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BILBAO  took  up the presentation  touching  on  what investments                                                           
looked  like over  the  last six  years  or so for  BP -  excluding  a                                                          
couple  of items  around  mid-stream  and the  Liberty  Project -  and                                                          
broke   it  into   capital   investment   each  year   between   rates                                                          
sustaining  versus  rate adding.  He said  although  their investment                                                           
had  increased  through  2008/9  their  overall  investment  had  been                                                          
declining   since  2008   and  before   ACES  their   rig  count   was                                                          
approximately  10-12  rigs  and that  has  dropped  as low  as 5  rigs                                                          
since then.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Today  TAPS is  three-quarters   empty, he  said.  One of  the  issues                                                          
they   need  to   recognize   is   that  policy   drives   investment                                                           
decisions,   which   drive   technological   innovation.   While   the                                                          
producers   control  efficiency   and  technology,   only  the   state                                                          
government  directs   fiscal  policy  and  that  is  what  allows  the                                                          
opportunities  to  compete for  investment,  and those  opportunities                                                           
must  compete   globally  for  that   investment.  There   is  not  an                                                          
unlimited amount of investment available.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE   asked  if  Liberty   is  a  technology   issue,  a                                                          
fiscal policy or both.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BILBAO replied  that  Liberty  is a  large technology  challenge                                                           
and  a challenge   in other  respects  as  well.  What  makes Liberty                                                           
different  is that  it actually  sits  in federal  waters  and is  not                                                          
subject  to ACES.  So even  though it  is technologically  challenged                                                           
it is still an attractive project that competes globally.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE   asked  if  Liberty  had  been  cancelled   or  set                                                          
aside for a brief period of time.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BILBAO   answered   that   the   Liberty   leases   received   a                                                          
suspension  of  production  from the  federal  government  at the  end                                                          
of 2012;  BP is  evaluating  the most  efficient and  technologically                                                           
appropriate  manner  for developing  that  resource  and progress  the                                                          
Liberty project appropriately next year.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  said they  heard  earlier  that the  state  went to  a                                                          
net  profits tax  with  ACES hoping  that  being  able to  deduct  all                                                          
the  expenses  would  encourage  people  to go  after  the challenged                                                           
oil.  At the  time,  Pedro  van  Meurs told  them  that  the negative                                                           
thing  they  did  was  removing  the  incentive  for  more  efficient                                                           
production,  because  the  more  efficient  you get  the  more of  the                                                          
total  money  is subject  to  taxes.  If they  figured  out  a way  to                                                          
not  penalize  them  for being  more  efficient,  he  wanted  to  know                                                          
what that  would  do to the  decision process.  They  have also  heard                                                          
that  the  permitting  process  takes  five  years and  he  wanted  to                                                          
know how permitting impacts industry's decision process.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:50:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BILBAO  said  he was trying  to stay  focused on  the committee's                                                           
request  to  focus  on technology   today and  would  write  down  his                                                          
question  to  respond  to  at another  hearing,   but basically   they                                                          
look  at the  state's  policy  along with  other  factors  and  manage                                                          
their   opportunities   most  efficiently   and   effectively   within                                                          
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:50:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BILBAO  summarized  that BP  is proud  that it had  been a  member                                                          
of  the community  in  Alaska  for  over  50 years  and  had invested                                                           
billions  in  development  and  technology  advancements.   They  have                                                          
leveraged   technology    to   exceed   their   original   production                                                           
expectations,  but  it is  becoming  increasing  difficult  to  pursue                                                          
the  next barrel.   Increasing  production  will  need  new long-term                                                           
technologies,  and  opportunities  drive  technology;  and the  policy                                                          
must insure it supports opportunity.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:52:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  thanked  him  and  invited  ExxonMobil  to  offer  its                                                          
perspective   on  what  it  will  take  to  keep  the  Legacy   fields                                                          
going.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:52:51 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN  SECKERS,  Tax  Counsel,  ExxonMobil,  Anchorage,  AK,  said  they                                                          
support  what  the  field operator   said at  about  Prudhoe  Bay  and                                                          
Kuparuk.  His  perspective   is that  it  is  really  in  the state's                                                           
hands  as  fiscal  policy  makers  to  determine  the  future  of  the                                                          
Legacy  fields  in Alaska.  He  said Alaska  has  been  and continues                                                           
to   be  a   very  important    component   of  ExxonMobil's    global                                                          
portfolio.  They  have had  a presence  in Alaska  for  over 50  years                                                          
and  are  the  operator   at  Point  Thomson,   the  largest  working                                                           
interest  owner  in  Prudhoe  Bay and  the  lease  holder of  all  the                                                          
known  discovered  Alaska  gas.  They  are  committed  to  Alaska  and                                                          
its future and expect to be here for many years to come.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said  that ExxonMobil  continues  to  support reforming  ACES.  The                                                          
need  for  Alaska  to develop  a  competitive   stable  fiscal  regime                                                          
that  attracts   the  level  of  investments  that  the  North   Slope                                                          
requires  is  one of  the most  important  issues  facing  the  state.                                                          
The  governor's  four  core  principles  that  he  emphasized  in  the                                                          
State  of the  State speech  -  that any  reform  of ACES  be fair  to                                                          
Alaskans,   encourage  new  oil  production,   simplify  and  restore                                                           
balance  to the  fiscal  regime to  make Alaska  competitive  for  the                                                          
long  term  - can  form  the  foundation  of a  successful  long-term                                                           
tax policy for the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ExxonMobil  believes   that the  changes  made  to  Alaska's  oil  and                                                          
gas tax  regime since  2005 have  had a  negative impact  on business                                                           
activity  in Alaska  and Alaska's  overall  investment  climate.   The                                                          
progressivity   component  of  the  ACES  tax  regime  on  top  of  an                                                          
already-high   base  tax   rate  creates  a   major  disincentive   to                                                          
invest  in the  high risk,  high  cost opportunities  that  are  here.                                                          
These  two  features  must be  addressed  for  any  tax policy  to  be                                                          
successful  in  meeting  the  state's  desired  production   and  long                                                          
term revenue goals, Mr. Seckers said.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Two  aspects  of  the  tax  policy,  however,   are  pro-development:                                                           
deduction  of  operating  and capital  expenditures   before applying                                                           
the  tax rates  recognizes   the high  cost  of  doing  business  here                                                          
and  the   further  tax   credit  for   capital   expenditures   which                                                          
rewards  those who  invest in  production  and infrastructure.   These                                                          
two  components  of  ACES should  be  reflected  in  any  revised  tax                                                          
policy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SECKERS  said  he agreed  with the  state's own  consultants  that                                                          
Alaska  has one  of  the highest  and  most punitive  tax  systems  in                                                          
the  world.  It  is  essential   that  the  tax  structure  encourage                                                           
long-term  development   of  all its  potential   resources.  He  said                                                          
ExxonMobil  values  a  predictable  fiscal  environment  in  which  to                                                          
make  long  term  investment  decisions.   Their  capital  investment                                                           
decisions   are  evaluated  over   decades  and  any  change   in  the                                                          
fiscal regime has a direct impact on them.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Because  of the  nature  and magnitude  of  the risk  associated  with                                                          
any  oil  and  gas  development  coupled   with  the  long  lead  time                                                          
generally  required  to  recoup  that investment,   he said  a  stable                                                          
fiscal  environment   is  key  to  any  investment   decision.   Today                                                          
Alaska  produces  more  than  16  billion  barrels  of  oil  from  the                                                          
North  Slope  and  there   well  over  5  billion  barrels   of  known                                                          
resources   remaining.  These   undeveloped   resources  represent   a                                                          
substantial  opportunity,  but  their  development  is at  risk  under                                                          
the  current  ACES  system.  Their  production   today  is  less  than                                                          
one-third of peak production in 1988 and continues to decline.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:58:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SECKERS stated  that  industry  currently  invests  well over  $1                                                          
billion  - a  majority  of  which is  in  the Legacy  fields  -  every                                                          
year just  to maintain  that  North Slope  oil production  decline  at                                                          
6-7 percent.  Without  that investment  the  decline  would likely  be                                                          
12-15  percent  or  greater.   Without   meaningful  tax  reform  that                                                          
includes  and  applies  to the  Alaska's  Legacy  fields,  Alaska  can                                                          
expect  production  declines   to continue.   The  Legacy  fields  not                                                          
only  provide the  majority  of the  state's  revenues,  they sustain                                                           
the  current   North  Slope  infrastructure   and  the  operation   of                                                          
TAPS,  which  are  critical  to  enabling  any  new  production.   The                                                          
infrastructure    from  these   legacy   fields   has   already   been                                                          
leveraged  historically  for  satellite  developments  such  as  Point                                                          
McIntyre,   Orion,   Borealis,   and  other   non-Legacy   fields   to                                                          
economically   process  and  transport   their  oil  from   the  North                                                          
Slope to refining destinations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Without  helping   Legacy  fields,  he  said  the  prospects   of  any                                                          
future  new  fields  or development   become even  more  economically                                                           
challenged   and  make  the  probabilities  of  Alaska  reaching   its                                                          
desired  goal  of long-term  sustained  production  levels  that  much                                                          
more  difficult.  Encouraging  increasing  investments  to keep  these                                                          
Legacy  fields  healthy  is  therefore  as important   as encouraging                                                           
investment in any new field or development.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SECKERS   said  emphasis  has  been   placed  on  making   Alaska                                                          
competitive  relative  to other  regimes,  but  that is  only part  of                                                          
the  overall  picture.  Benchmarking  government  take  against  other                                                          
producing  areas  also  is  a  very  useful  tool  for gauging   basic                                                          
competitiveness,   but  it  doesn't   provide  the  full  picture   of                                                          
investment  health.   The  majority  of  the  spending  on  the  North                                                          
Slope  has  been  for maintenance   of existing   operations  not  new                                                          
development.   The   state   simply   has  not   attracted   the   new                                                          
investment needed under ACES.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Complicating    Alaska's    production    decline    are   its    high                                                          
exploration,  development  and  production  costs.  It is  one of  the                                                          
most  expensive  places  in  the world  to  develop  and  produce  oil                                                          
and  gas  and  a stable  tax  structure  would  allow  and  encourage                                                           
investment   and  ensure  a  corresponding   opportunity  for   upside                                                          
potential.   Upside   factors  such   as  increased   production   and                                                          
higher  prices  can  compensate   for  the risk  taken  by  investors                                                           
because  companies  are  certainly  negatively   impacted  when  lower                                                          
than  expected   production  or  prices   occur.  High  marginal   tax                                                          
rates  under  the  progressive   structure  of  ACES  takes  away  the                                                          
upside  potential  and reduces  the attractiveness   of those capital                                                           
intensive   investments   compared  to  other   locations  where   the                                                          
upside benefit of investments can be retained.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.   SECKERS   said   that   ExxonMobil   recognizes    the  state's                                                           
difficulty  in  tackling the  it's  tax policy  while  protecting  the                                                          
current  revenue  streams and  addressing  the revenue  problems  just                                                          
over the  horizon  as production  continues  to fall.  In many  cases,                                                          
today's  production   rates  are a  result  of  government  policies,                                                           
technical  work  and  investment  decisions  that  were  made decades                                                           
ago.  Increasing  production   rates  in  the  decades  to  come  will                                                          
result  from  sound  policies,  decisions  and  commitments  that  are                                                          
made by this legislature.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:04:31 PM                                                                                                                    
He  reiterated  that  ExxonMobil  is committed  to  Alaska  and  fully                                                          
supports  the governor's  and  this legislature's  efforts  to  reform                                                          
ACES   and   to   make    Alaska's   investment    climate   globally                                                           
competitive.  Alaska  needs  a long  term resource  policy  that  will                                                          
encourage  increasing  investment  in  all  remaining  resources  that                                                          
are  economically  challenged  both  in  new fields  and  in existing                                                           
and  particularly   Legacy  fields.  The  reform  needs  to  create  a                                                          
balanced    program    using    a   combination    of    changes    to                                                          
progressivity,   the  high base  tax  rate  and  capital  expenditure                                                           
tax  credits to  provide  a competitive  balance  of  government  take                                                          
across all prices bands.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SECKERS  said ExxonMobil   looked forward  to  working  with  the                                                          
administration,   this  legislature,  industry  partners   and  people                                                          
of  Alaska  to   pursue  the  development   of  Alaska  oil   and  gas                                                          
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL found  no questions  and thanked  Mr.  Seckers for  his                                                          
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:06:56 PM                                                                                                                    
There  being  no  further  business  to  come before  the  committee,                                                           
Chair  Giessel  adjourned  the Senate  Resources  Standing  Committee                                                           
meeting at 5:06 p.m.                                                                                                            
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects | 
|---|---|---|
| SRES BP Presentation Bilbao Digert 2013.02.08.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | |
| SRES ConocoPhillips Testimony Jepson 2013.02.08.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | |
| SRES ExxonMobil Testimony ACES - Alaska's Investment Climate Seckers 2013.02.08.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | |
| SB 26 Written Testimony RickRogers Resource Development Council 2013.02.06.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | SB  26 | 
| SB 26 SEACC Summary-Fraser Institute Annual Survey of Mining Companies 2011 2012 2013.02.07.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | SB  26 | 
| SB 26 Supp Letter MichaelSatre Council of Alaska Producers 2013.02.07.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | SB  26 | 
| SB 26 Written Testimony HalShepherd Center for Water Advocay 2013.02.06.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | SB  26 | 
| SB 26 Water Reservation Applications By A Person 2013.02.08.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | SB  26 | 
| SB 26 DNR Responses to Cmte Questions 2013.02.08.pdf | SRES       2/8/2013 3:30:00 PM | SB  26 |