02/27/2004 03:32 PM Senate RES
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE
February 27, 2004
3:32 p.m.
TAPE(S) 04-17
MEMBERS PRESENT
Senator Scott Ogan, Chair
Senator Ralph Seekins
Senator Ben Stevens
Senator Kim Elton
MEMBERS ABSENT
Senator Thomas Wagoner, Vice Chair
Senator Fred Dyson
Senator Georgianna Lincoln
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
SENATE BILL NO. 190
"An Act adding certain state-owned land and water to the Kenai
River Special Management Area; relating to the mineral estate of
the state-owned land and water in the Kenai River Special
Management Area; amending the qualifications for members of the
Kenai River Special Management Area advisory board; and
providing for an effective date."
MOVED CSSB 190(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE
SENATE BILL NO. 303
"An Act relating to the Big Game Commercial Services Board and
to the regulation of big game hunting services and
transportation services; and providing for an effective date."
HEARD AND HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: SB 190
SHORT TITLE: KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WAGONER
04/16/03 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
04/16/03 (S) STA, RES
01/20/04 (S) STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211
01/20/04 (S) Moved CSSB 190(STA) Out of Committee
01/20/04 (S) MINUTE(STA)
01/21/04 (S) STA RPT CS 3DP 1NR NEW TITLE
01/21/04 (S) DP: STEVENS G, COWDERY, STEDMAN;
01/21/04 (S) NR: GUESS
02/16/04 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
02/16/04 (S) Heard & Held
02/16/04 (S) MINUTE(RES)
02/27/04 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
BILL: SB 303
SHORT TITLE: BIG GAME SERVICES & COMM. SERVICES BD
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF LEG BUDGET & AUDIT
02/06/04 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/06/04 (S) RES, FIN
02/20/04 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
02/20/04 (S) Heard & Held
02/20/04 (S) MINUTE(RES)
02/27/04 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
WITNESS REGISTER
Ms. Amy Seitz
Staff to Senator Wagoner
Alaska State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801-1182
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 190 for sponsor.
Mr. Henry Webb
Staff to Representative Ralph Samuels
Alaska State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801-1182
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 303 for the sponsor.
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 04-17, SIDE A
SB 190-KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA
CHAIR SCOTT OGAN called the Senate Resources Standing Committee
meeting to order at 3:32 p.m. Present were Senators Ben Stevens,
Ralph Seekins, Kim Elton and Chair Scott Ogan. The first order
of business to come before the committee was SB 190.
MS. AMY SEITZ, staff to Senator Wagoner, sponsor of SB 190, said
the bill had been discussed last Monday and there were no
changes. However, Senator Elton wanted to know how moving EVOS
(Exxon Valdez Oil Spill) lands into KRSMA (Kenai River Special
Management Area) would affect oil and gas development. She was
told that the conservation easements in the EVOS purchasing
agreement would not change when the parcels are moved into
KRSMA.
SENATOR KIM ELTON said he appreciated the Department of Natural
Resources' work and Chair Ogan asked that its memo be included
in the record, which follows.
· The subsurface estate is the dominant estate
· EVOS conservation easements only apply to the
portion of the estate acquired with EVOS funds
· The use of lands acquired with EVOS funds is
controlled by the terms of the conservation
easements on them. The KRSMA designation does not
affect the conservation easements
· Conservation easements associated with EVOS lands
apply to the specific land interest acquired. If
the subsurface estate was not a part of the
purchase, the conservation easement cannot limit
access to the mineral estate any more than the
surface owner of any parcel of land can limit
access to the minerals underlying his estate
· Typically, we did not acquire the subsurface
state with EVOS funds. If we did acquire the
subsurface estate on any of the EVOS funded
parcels, utilization of the minerals on that
specific parcel would be limited by the terms of
the conservation easement
· Typically, the oil and gas rights on many of the
EVOS acquired parcels were previously conveyed to
the State of Alaska via patent and as such would
be subject to the terms of the conservation
easement
· Generally, the conservation easement on EVOS
acquired parcels is consistent with Parks'
management intent and the KRSMA designation.
· The conservation easement has no effect on
adjacent parcels
SENATOR BEN STEVENS moved to pass CSSB 190(STA), version \I,
from committee with attached fiscal note and individual
recommendations. There were no objections and it was so ordered.
3:37 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. - at ease
SB 303-BIG GAME SERVICES & COMM. SERVICES BD
CHAIR SCOTT OGAN announced SB 303 to be up for consideration. He
asked everyone to consider the changes in the bill over the
upcoming weekend.
SENATOR RALPH SEEKINS moved to adopt the proposed CSSB 303(RES),
version \D, for discussion purposes.
CHAIR OGAN said he would like to hold voting on the motion until
the bill was before the committee next time to allow for
amendments, since it is pretty extensively reworked.
MR. HENRY WEBB, Staff to Representative Ralph Samuels, sponsor,
said that they met with the Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G),
Department of Public Safety (DPS), Division of Occupational
Licensing and the Board of Game and went through the bill page
by page. There were 63 changes, some were technical and some
were substantive.
CHAIR OGAN asked him to go over the substantive changes.
MR. WEBB said he would rather do a complete markup so the whole
bill could be before the committee. He hoped to have it done
within the next couple of days.
SENATOR ELTON suggested that it makes sense to wait for the
markup before the committee goes through the bill.
CHAIR OGAN said that made sense to him, too.
SENATOR STEVENS moved to adjourn. There were no objections and
the meeting was adjourned at 3:42 p.m.
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