02/27/2004 03:32 PM Senate RES
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 27, 2004                                                                                        
                           3:32 p.m.                                                                                            
TAPE(S) 04-17                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Scott Ogan, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Ralph Seekins                                                                                                           
Senator Ben Stevens                                                                                                             
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas Wagoner, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 190                                                                                                             
"An Act  adding certain state-owned  land and water to  the Kenai                                                               
River Special Management Area; relating  to the mineral estate of                                                               
the  state-owned  land  and  water in  the  Kenai  River  Special                                                               
Management Area;  amending the qualifications for  members of the                                                               
Kenai  River   Special  Management   Area  advisory   board;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     MOVED CSSB 190(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 303                                                                                                             
"An Act  relating to the  Big Game Commercial Services  Board and                                                               
to   the   regulation   of  big   game   hunting   services   and                                                               
transportation services; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
BILL: SB 190                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WAGONER                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
04/16/03       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/16/03       (S)       STA, RES                                                                                               
01/20/04       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
01/20/04       (S)       Moved CSSB 190(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
01/20/04       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
01/21/04       (S)       STA RPT CS 3DP 1NR            NEW TITLE                                                                
01/21/04       (S)       DP: STEVENS G, COWDERY, STEDMAN;                                                                       
01/21/04       (S)       NR: GUESS                                                                                              
02/16/04       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/16/04       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/16/04       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
02/27/04       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 303                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: BIG GAME SERVICES & COMM. SERVICES BD                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF LEG BUDGET & AUDIT                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/06/04       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/06/04       (S)       RES, FIN                                                                                               
02/20/04       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/20/04       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/20/04       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
02/27/04       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Amy Seitz                                                                                                                   
Staff to Senator Wagoner                                                                                                        
Alaska State Capitol                                                                                                            
Juneau, AK  99801-1182                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 190 for sponsor.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henry Webb                                                                                                                  
Staff to Representative Ralph Samuels                                                                                           
Alaska State Capitol                                                                                                            
Juneau, AK  99801-1182                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 303 for the sponsor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-17, SIDE A                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           SB 190-KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SCOTT  OGAN called the Senate  Resources Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order at 3:32  p.m. Present were Senators Ben Stevens,                                                               
Ralph Seekins,  Kim Elton and  Chair Scott Ogan. The  first order                                                               
of business to come before the committee was SB 190.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. AMY SEITZ, staff to Senator  Wagoner, sponsor of SB 190, said                                                               
the  bill  had been  discussed  last  Monday  and there  were  no                                                               
changes. However,  Senator Elton wanted  to know how  moving EVOS                                                               
(Exxon Valdez  Oil Spill) lands  into KRSMA (Kenai  River Special                                                               
Management Area)  would affect oil  and gas development.  She was                                                               
told  that  the conservation  easements  in  the EVOS  purchasing                                                               
agreement  would  not change  when  the  parcels are  moved  into                                                               
KRSMA.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIM ELTON  said he appreciated the  Department of Natural                                                               
Resources' work  and Chair Ogan  asked that its memo  be included                                                               
in the record, which follows.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        · The subsurface estate is the dominant estate                                                                          
        · EVOS  conservation  easements  only apply  to  the                                                                    
         portion of the estate acquired with EVOS funds                                                                         
        · The  use  of lands  acquired  with  EVOS funds  is                                                                    
          controlled  by  the   terms  of  the  conservation                                                                    
          easements on them. The  KRSMA designation does not                                                                    
          affect the conservation easements                                                                                     
        · Conservation easements associated  with EVOS lands                                                                    
          apply to  the specific land interest  acquired. If                                                                    
          the  subsurface  estate  was not  a  part  of  the                                                                    
          purchase, the  conservation easement  cannot limit                                                                    
          access  to the  mineral estate  any more  than the                                                                    
          surface  owner of  any parcel  of  land can  limit                                                                    
          access to the minerals underlying his estate                                                                          
        · Typically,  we  did  not  acquire  the  subsurface                                                                    
          state  with  EVOS funds.  If  we  did acquire  the                                                                    
          subsurface  estate  on  any  of  the  EVOS  funded                                                                    
          parcels,  utilization  of  the  minerals  on  that                                                                    
          specific parcel  would be limited by  the terms of                                                                    
          the conservation easement                                                                                             
        · Typically, the oil  and gas rights on  many of the                                                                    
          EVOS acquired parcels  were previously conveyed to                                                                    
          the State of  Alaska via patent and  as such would                                                                    
          be  subject  to  the  terms  of  the  conservation                                                                    
          easement                                                                                                              
        · Generally,  the  conservation   easement  on  EVOS                                                                    
          acquired   parcels  is   consistent  with   Parks'                                                                    
          management intent and the KRSMA designation.                                                                          
        · The  conservation   easement  has  no   effect  on                                                                    
          adjacent parcels                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEN STEVENS  moved to  pass CSSB  190(STA), version  \I,                                                               
from  committee   with  attached   fiscal  note   and  individual                                                               
recommendations. There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:37 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. - at ease                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          SB 303-BIG GAME SERVICES & COMM. SERVICES BD                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR SCOTT OGAN announced SB 303  to be up for consideration. He                                                               
asked  everyone to  consider the  changes  in the  bill over  the                                                               
upcoming weekend.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR RALPH SEEKINS moved to  adopt the proposed CSSB 303(RES),                                                               
version \D, for discussion purposes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OGAN said he would like  to hold voting on the motion until                                                               
the  bill  was  before  the  committee next  time  to  allow  for                                                               
amendments, since it is pretty extensively reworked.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENRY  WEBB, Staff to Representative  Ralph Samuels, sponsor,                                                               
said that they met with the  Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G),                                                               
Department  of  Public  Safety (DPS),  Division  of  Occupational                                                               
Licensing and  the Board of Game  and went through the  bill page                                                               
by  page. There  were 63  changes, some  were technical  and some                                                               
were substantive.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OGAN asked him to go over the substantive changes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WEBB said  he would rather do a complete  markup so the whole                                                               
bill could  be before  the committee.  He hoped  to have  it done                                                               
within the next couple of days.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON suggested  that it  makes  sense to  wait for  the                                                               
markup before the committee goes through the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OGAN said that made sense to him, too.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  moved to adjourn.  There were no  objections and                                                               
the meeting was adjourned at 3:42 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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