Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205

03/26/2018 03:30 PM RESOURCES

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03:30:12 PM Start
03:31:12 PM Confirmation Hearing(s):
03:50:15 PM Adjourn
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Consideration of Governor's Appointees
- Mrs. Teresa Sager-Albaugh, Tok
- Mr. Larry Van Daele, Kodiak
-- Public Testimony on Appointees --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 26, 2018                                                                                         
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS:                                                                                                          
Board of Game                                                                                                                 
     Teresa Sager-Albaugh, Tok                                                                                                  
     Larry Van Daele, Kodiak                                                                                                    
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
TERESA SAGER-ALBAUGH                                                                                                            
Tok, Alaska                                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT: Reappointee to the Board of Game.                                                                         
LARRY VAN DAELE                                                                                                                 
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Reappointee to the Board of Game.                                                                         
MARK RICHARDS, Executive Director                                                                                               
Resident Hunters of Alaska                                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported the reappointments of  Ms. Albaugh                                                             
and Mr. Van Daele to the Board of Game.                                                                                         
AL BARRETTE, member                                                                                                             
Fairbanks Fish and Game Advisory Committee                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Said the Fairbanks Advisory  Committee voted                                                             
unanimously to support Ms. Albaugh's  appointment to the Board of                                                               
SAM ROHRER, President                                                                                                           
Alaska Professional Hunters Association                                                                                         
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported the reappointments of  Ms. Albaugh                                                             
and Mr. Van Daele to the Board of Game.                                                                                         
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
3:30:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CATHY   GIESSEL  called  the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:30  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were  Senators Bishop, Meyer,  Coghill, and  Chair Giessel.                                                               
Senator Stedman was excused.                                                                                                    
^Confirmation Hearing(s):                                                                                                       
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
                         Board of Game                                                                                      
3:31:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  announced confirmation  hearings for the  Board of                                                               
Game  and invited  Ms. Sager-Albaugh  to tell  the committee  her                                                               
background and why she wants to  continue serving on the Board of                                                               
3:31:54 PM                                                                                                                    
TERESA  SAGER-ALBAUGH, reappointee  to  the Board  of Game,  Tok,                                                               
Alaska,  said  she  appreciated   their  consideration  for  this                                                               
appointment. She is a lifelong Alaskan  and  grew up in Fairbanks                                                               
in a  hunting and fishing  family. She has always  felt fortunate                                                               
to live  in a place  where people have an  incredible opportunity                                                               
to enjoy  wildlife in so many  ways. She moved to  the Tok Cutoff                                                               
in 1984 where she and her  husband chose a lifestyle of space and                                                               
simplicity  that included  a modest  log home  where she  and her                                                               
husband haul  water, run  a trap  line, hunt  and fish,  and work                                                               
throughout the  year to fill  their freezer with wild  food. They                                                               
also raise  a garden  in two greenhouses.  In recent  years, they                                                               
raise domestic livestock to add to their food supply.                                                                           
In terms of her qualifications for  serving on the Board of Game,                                                               
which she has served on since  2009, she doesn't have the type of                                                               
degree or  professional background they might  expect or consider                                                               
to  be a  standard prerequisite  such as  in natural  resource or                                                               
wildlife  management.  Instead,  she  brings  more  of  a  layman                                                               
Alaskan background to the board.                                                                                                
For a living,  in 1996 Ms. Albaugh said she  took a position with                                                               
Summit  Consulting, an  engineering  and construction  management                                                               
firm in Tok, and she has been  with them for over 20 years. Prior                                                               
to that,  in the 1980s and  early 90s she was  a legislative aide                                                               
for 12 years. With regard  to volunteer positions, she previously                                                               
served on  the Board of  Directors of the Alaska  Outdoor Council                                                               
and  its  sister  organization,  the  Alaska  Fish  and  Wildlife                                                               
Conservation  Fund; she  is also  a life-member  of the  National                                                               
Rifle Association (NRA).                                                                                                        
3:34:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ALBAUGH said  she tries  to bring  to the  table an  average                                                               
Alaskan's perspective from  living in both urban  and rural parts                                                               
of  the  state,  and  having a  hunting,  fishing,  and  trapping                                                               
background. As  a board member, she  makes an effort to  keep her                                                               
contributions to its deliberations and  her votes grounded in the                                                               
Constitution and  the statutes  to the best  of her  ability. She                                                               
offered to take questions.                                                                                                      
3:34:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI joined the committee.                                                                                      
3:34:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MEYER thanked  her for  serving on  the board  and asked                                                               
about her  conviction record that  was mentioned in  her resume'.                                                               
Was she referring to a speeding ticket?                                                                                         
MS. ALBAUGH answered yes.                                                                                                       
CHAIR  GIESSEL, finding  no further  questions  for Ms.  Albaugh,                                                               
invited Mr. Van Daele to tell  the committee why he would like to                                                               
be reappointed to the Board of Game.                                                                                            
3:35:38 PM                                                                                                                    
LARRY  VAN  DAELE, reappointee  to  the  Board of  Game,  Kodiak,                                                               
Alaska, said  in August of 1956,  he was born in  Okinawa, Japan,                                                               
while his  father was flying  for the  CIA dropping off  spies in                                                               
North Viet  Nam in the  dead of night. For  the next 18  years he                                                               
and his  mom lived a  vagabond lifestyle as his  father continued                                                               
his career  as a fighter pilot  in the Air Force.  This lifestyle                                                               
exposed the family  to a wide variety of cultures  and people and                                                               
instilled a survival  skill of finding ways to  understand and be                                                               
open  to new  people and  situations.  His family  also took  the                                                               
opportunities  to explore  the hunting,  fishing,  and myriad  of                                                               
other  outdoor activities  in each  of  their new  areas. He  was                                                               
immensely  jealous  of  his  Dad's  Alaska  stories  whenever  he                                                               
returned with his missile base filled with crab legs and salmon.                                                                
MR.  VAN DAELE  said he  attended  college at  the University  of                                                               
Idaho where he met his wife  and earned a bachelor and a master's                                                               
degree  in  wildlife  management. Immediately  after  graduation,                                                               
they packed  up and headed north  to Alaska. He started  with the                                                               
Alaska  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  (ADF&G)  as  a  wildlife                                                               
technician in  1981 working  on the  first Susitna  hydro project                                                               
and continued to  work for the department for the  next 34 years.                                                               
During that  time, he was  an assistant area biologist  and later                                                               
an area biologist  in Kodiak, an area biologist  in Dillingham, a                                                               
regional   biologist,  assistant   management  coordinator,   and                                                               
finally  the regional  supervisor in  Anchorage. He  was able  to                                                               
work with his  colleagues throughout the state on  a wide variety                                                               
of  species with  most  of  his focus  on  brown bears,  caribou,                                                               
moose, deer,  goats, and  elk. He also  managed the  Round Island                                                               
State Game Sanctuary and served  as the state's representative on                                                               
the Eskimo Walrus Commission for several years.                                                                                 
In 2007, Mr. Van Daele earned  his PhD with a dissertation on the                                                               
population  status   and  management  of  bears   in  the  Kodiak                                                               
Archipelago.  His  work  with  brown   bears  extended  to  other                                                               
countries when  he was  chosen to lead  the Northern  Forum Brown                                                               
Bear Work  Group and served as  co-chair of the IUC  in the North                                                               
Asian Brown  Bear Expert Team. These  roles gave him a  chance to                                                               
go to  the Russian Far  East, Hokkaido Japan, Sweden,  and Canada                                                               
to work with  colleagues and share ideas about  bear research and                                                               
management. He also  wrote a book on the history  of bears in the                                                               
Kodiak Islands  and recently co-authored a  book on photographing                                                               
His wife,  Hillary, is a  trained biologist, but she  shifted her                                                               
career path  to be a  fulltime mom when  her only son,  Matt, was                                                               
born. Matt graduated  from Kodiak High School,  achieved the rank                                                               
of Eagle  Scout and  went on  to earn  a B.S.  and M.S  degree in                                                               
zoology.  He returned  to Kodiak  to work  for the  Koniag Native                                                               
Corporation for several years as  their natural resource manager,                                                               
until last year when he was  chosen to be the deputy city manager                                                               
of Kodiak. He is also on  the Kodiak Island Borough Assembly. His                                                               
wife, Mary,  is an artist,  and in  July last year  they welcomed                                                               
their first grandchild, Matilda, into the world.                                                                                
MR. VAN DAELE  said since retirement in 2015, he  has worked part                                                               
time  in  his consulting  business.  In  2016, he  spent  several                                                               
months assisting a  local Native corporation to  establish a bear                                                               
viewing  lodge in  Kodiak. Last  year he  worked for  the British                                                               
Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) as they  worked to put together an                                                               
international  live broadcast  from several  locations in  Alaska                                                               
highlighting it wildlife. He volunteered  for the Kodiak Electric                                                               
Association  recently   helping  them  analyze  the   impacts  of                                                               
expanding the  capacity of their hydro-electric  project on bears                                                               
and other  wildlife, and he was  a co-chair of a  local nonprofit                                                               
group  that raised  funds and  commissioned  a life-sized  bronze                                                               
statute of  an adult male  bear to commemorate  the contributions                                                               
of Native people  in the guiding industry in  the conservation of                                                               
bears in Kodiak.                                                                                                                
3:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
Because of  his professional  role with the  ADF&G, and  now with                                                               
the Board  of Game, Mr.  Van Daele said  he has opted  to refrain                                                               
from having  memberships or positions  in organizations  that are                                                               
directly  impacted  by  his  decisions.  While  he  supports  the                                                               
mission  of several  different  groups and  follows  them on  the                                                               
Internet  and talks  with their  members, he  doesn't want  to be                                                               
seen as  a supporter of one  group over another. However,  he has                                                               
maintained his membership  in the Wildlife Society where  he is a                                                               
certified wildlife biologist,  the International Bear Association                                                               
where  is on  the  Brown  Bear Expert  Team,  the Alutiiq  Museum                                                               
Collections  Committee,  Pioneers  of Alaska,  and  Saint  Mary's                                                               
Catholic  Church. He  is also  the chairman  of the  Kodiak State                                                               
Park Citizens Advisory  Board, and last year he  was appointed by                                                               
Governor Walker to  serve on the Board of Game.  He serves as the                                                               
board's  representative  on  the  Big  Game  Commercial  Services                                                               
Board, as well.                                                                                                                 
MR. VAN  DAELE summarized that  Alaska has given him  many things                                                               
and he  wants to continue  offering his  talents to the  Board of                                                               
Game as a  way of giving back  to the people and  the wildlife of                                                               
the state.  "Serving on the  board is  an awesome honor  and it's                                                               
just an incredible responsibility," he said.                                                                                    
3:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
His primary goals while on the board are:                                                                                       
1. Maintain healthy wildlife populations                                                                                        
2. Provide  food security, respect  for cultural  and traditional                                                               
practices and enhancing opportunities for all Alaskans                                                                          
3. Share those opportunities with visitors whenever possible                                                                    
4. Return all wildlife management to the state                                                                                  
5. Revitalize trust by all groups in the board process                                                                          
To  do this,  Mr. Van  Daele said  sincere stewardship  is needed                                                               
that  incorporates sustainability,  conservation for  the future,                                                               
and respect  for everyone's needs  and desires.  Polarization and                                                               
belittling people  with opposing  views is eroding  our democracy                                                               
and our society, in his opinion,  and he believes all elected and                                                               
appointed officials should  work to bring people  together and to                                                               
seek common  ground with understanding  and respect.  He promises                                                               
to do his best to do this as long as he is on the board.                                                                        
3:42:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL, finding  no comments  from the  committee, opened                                                               
public testimony.                                                                                                               
3:42:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MARK  RICHARDS, Executive  Director, Resident  Hunters of  Alaska                                                               
(RHA), Fairbanks,  Alaska, supported  both the appointees  to the                                                               
Board of Game. It's important to  point out that they support Ms.                                                               
Albaugh in  spite of the fact  that she often doesn't  vote their                                                               
way on issues  before the board. They highly respect  that she is                                                               
a staunch advocate of following  the rules and obligations of the                                                               
board  to conduct  an open  and  fair public  process within  the                                                               
bounds of its authority.                                                                                                        
3:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RICHARDS said  they supported  Mr.  Van Daele's  appointment                                                               
last year to  serve out the term of another  board member who had                                                               
resigned. His  reputation as a  biologist and serving  as ADF&G's                                                               
region  2  supervisor  are  well   known.  He  has  been  a  very                                                               
constructive and  informative voice and has  attended every board                                                               
meeting. He now also represents the  Board of Game as its liaison                                                               
to the Big  Game Commercial Services Board where is  he is also a                                                               
valuable voice of reason.                                                                                                       
3:45:17 PM                                                                                                                    
AL BARRETTE, member, Fairbanks Fish  and Game Advisory Committee,                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska,  said the  Fairbanks Advisory  Committee voted                                                               
unanimously to support Ms. Albaugh's  appointment to the Board of                                                               
Game. It  is delightful to  work with board members  who interact                                                               
with their  committee, even  though she is  not from  their area.                                                               
She is available throughout the  year to discuss wildlife issues.                                                               
They appreciate her ability to read  the statutes and to keep the                                                               
board  on  track   with  what  it  is  allowed  to   do.  She  is                                                               
approachable at board  meetings and relies on  new information in                                                               
making her decisions.                                                                                                           
3:45:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON IMHOF joined the committee.                                                                                         
3:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SAM  ROHRER, President,  Alaska Professional  Hunters Association                                                               
(APHA), Kodiak,  Alaska, supported both  Ms. Albaugh and  Mr. Van                                                               
Daele's  reappointment  to  the  Board of  Game.  They  are  both                                                               
valuable  members  of  the  board: they  come  to  meetings  well                                                               
prepared  without preconceived  ideas  and opinions,  and with  a                                                               
strong concern for conservation.  While APHA doesn't always agree                                                               
with them  on all issues,  they appreciate the openness  in which                                                               
they approach the process and their willingness to serve.                                                                       
3:48:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL,  finding  no   further  comments,  closed  public                                                               
SENATOR  COGHILL  commented  that  both people  had  been  highly                                                               
recommended,  and  Interior  residents greatly  appreciate  their                                                               
service in this time-consuming job.                                                                                             
3:49:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL   said  in  accordance  with   AS  39.05.080,  the                                                               
Resources  Committee reviewed  the following  and recommends  the                                                               
appointments be  forwarded to a joint  session for consideration:                                                               
Board  of  Game:  Theresa Sager-Albaugh,  Tok  and  Lawrence  Van                                                               
Daele, Kodiak.  She reminded members  that this does  not reflect                                                               
an  intent by  any of  the  members to  vote for  or against  the                                                               
confirmation of the individuals  during any further sessions. She                                                               
directed committee members to sign the committee report.                                                                        
3:50:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL,  finding no  further business  to come  before the                                                               
committee,  adjourned  the  Senate Resources  Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting at 3:50 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Senate Resources - Hearing Agenda - 3 - 26 - 18 .pdf SRES 3/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Board of Game Fact Sheet.pdf SRES 3/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Board of Game Current Roster.pdf SRES 3/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Support for Van Daele - Sager Albaugh - RHAK - 3 - 23 - 18.pdf SRES 3/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Board of Game - Resume - Teresa Sager Albaugh.pdf SRES 3/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Board of Game - Resume - Larry Van Daele.pdf SRES 3/26/2018 3:30:00 PM