Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205

02/26/2018 03:30 PM RESOURCES

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03:30:09 PM Start
03:30:41 PM SB202
03:55:03 PM Confirmation Hearings: Big Game Commercial Services Board
04:15:19 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees TELECONFERENCED
Big Game Commercial Services Board:
- Ms. Michelle Heun, Palmer
- Mr. Cash Joyce, Wasilla
- Mr. Robert Beans, Palmer
-- Public Testimony on Appointees --
*+ SB 202 NATIVE CORP. LIABILITY FOR CONTAMINATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 202 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 26, 2018                                                                                        
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 202                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the liability of a Native corporation for                                                                   
the release or threatened release of hazardous substances                                                                       
present on certain lands."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 202 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS:                                                                                                          
  Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                          
   -Michelle Heun from Palmer, Alaska                                                                                           
   -Cash Joyce from Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                             
   -Robert Beans from Palmer, Alaska                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 202                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: NATIVE CORP. LIABILITY FOR CONTAMINATION                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) HOFFMAN                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
02/19/18       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/18       (S)       RES, JUD                                                                                               
02/26/18       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LYMAN HOFFMAN                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 202.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARIDON BOARIO, staff to Senator Hoffman                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 202 for the sponsor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
EMILY NAUMAN, Attorney                                                                                                          
Legislative Legal Division                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered legal questions on SB 202.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HALLIE BISSETT, Executive Director                                                                                              
Alaska Native Village Corporation Association                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 202.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE HEUN                                                                                                                   
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Nominee to the Big Game Commercial Services                                                               
Board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CASH JOYCE                                                                                                                      
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Nominee for the transporter position on the                                                               
Big Game Commercial Services Board.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT BEANS                                                                                                                    
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Nominee for private landowner member on the                                                               
Big Game Commercial Services Board.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SAM ROHRER, President                                                                                                           
Alaska Professional Hunters Association (APHA)                                                                                  
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported Mr. Joyce's appointment to the Big                                                              
Game Commercial Services Board.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CATHY   GIESSEL  called  the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:30  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Bishop, Coghill,  Stedman,  Von Imhof,  and                                                               
Chair Giessel. Senator Wielechowski was excused.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        SB 202-NATIVE CORP. LIABILITY FOR CONTAMINATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:30:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL announced  consideration of  SB 202.  She said  it                                                               
addresses  a   problem  that   Native  corporations   have  about                                                               
receiving  contaminated  lands  under the  Alaska  Native  Claims                                                               
Settlement Act (ANCSA).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR LYMAN HOFFMAN, Alaska  State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
sponsor of  SB 202, said  this legislation  came to him  from the                                                               
Alaska  Native   Village  Corporation  Association   that  formed                                                               
because  of  receiving  hazardous  substance  contaminated  lands                                                               
under ANSCA that need remediation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He said concerns about this issue  were raised the 1990s, and the                                                               
1998 Department of Interior's (DOI)  report to Congress confirmed                                                               
them and  identified more than  650 contaminated  sites requiring                                                               
remediation.  These sites  were  contaminated  under the  federal                                                               
government's  watch and  then  transferred  to Native  ownership,                                                               
Senator  Hoffman said.  In 2016,  the Bureau  of Land  Management                                                               
(BLM)  updated the  DOI's report  to Congress  acknowledging that                                                               
the  agency   had  not   acted  on  much   of  the   1998  report                                                               
recommendations.  The update  identified  the DOD  as the  single                                                               
largest pre-transfer owner of  contaminated sites still requiring                                                               
clean-up.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN  said  the Alaska  Native  Villages  Corporation                                                               
Association  testified  before  Congressional committees  on  the                                                               
problem as  recently as  last summer and  pushed for  the federal                                                               
government  to deal  with the  problem  sites. The  association's                                                               
federal legislative priority list  includes protecting the Alaska                                                               
Native  Corporation  from  liability  claims  on  land  that  was                                                               
contaminated before it was transferred to them.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:33:09 PM                                                                                                                    
He  said SB  202 amends  Alaska  statutes so  that Alaska  Native                                                               
Corporations are  not liable for  the contamination,  removal, or                                                               
remediation actions  of the contamination  before the  lands were                                                               
transferred to them under ANCSA.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He explained that  though this change in state  statute would not                                                               
solve  the federal  issues of  this problem,  it is  an important                                                               
step  toward  protection  of   Alaska  Native  corporations  from                                                               
liability for actions of prior owners.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL noted  the map  of Alaska  with red  dots denoting                                                               
contaminated sites.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN  explained that  the red  dots are  orphan sites;                                                               
yellow  dots  are  in  clean-up   programs,  the  blue  dots  are                                                               
informational, and  green dots denote that  clean-up is completed                                                               
or about to be completed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER joined the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:34:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MARIDON   BOARIO,  staff   to  Senator   Hoffman,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,  Alaska,  explained that  these  sites  are                                                               
called "orphan"  because they have  not been put into  a clean-up                                                               
program and the responsible parties have not been identified.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOFFMAN  said these  sites  are  spread all  across  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked for a sectional analysis of SB 202.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:35:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BOARIO provided the analysis as follows:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section  1 amends  AS 46.03.822(a)  to add  subsection (n)  which                                                               
relieves  Native  corporations  from   liability  if  the  Native                                                               
corporation  can  prove  the  hazardous  materials  were  already                                                               
present  on the  land  before  the land  was  transferred to  the                                                               
Native corporation under the Alaska  Native Claims Settlement Act                                                               
(43 U.S.C 1601 et seq.)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section  2 amends  AS 46.03.822(m)  to add  a new  paragraph that                                                               
defines  Native  Corporation  to  have the  same  meaning  as  in                                                               
federal  law under  U.S.C 1602(m)  (ANCSA statutes),  which says,                                                               
Native Corporation  means "any regional corporation,  any village                                                               
corporation, any urban corporation, and any group corporation."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:36:18 PM                                                                                                                    
Section 3  amends AS 46.03.822 to  add a new subsection  (n) that                                                               
relieves  Native  corporations  from   liability  if  the  Native                                                               
corporation  can  prove  the  hazardous  materials  were  already                                                               
present  on the  land  before  the land  was  transferred to  the                                                               
Native corporation under the Alaska  Native Claims Settlement Act                                                               
(43 U.S.C 1601 et seq.)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:36:33 PM                                                                                                                    
Section  4  repeals AS  46.03.822  (c)(3),  which is  a  narrower                                                               
exemption  for  Native  corporations  currently  in  statute  and                                                               
replaces it with the exemption in AS 46.06.822.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked for an  explanation of what is narrower and                                                               
if it is primarily the definition of corporations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOARIO answered that was her understanding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP asked if there  is a federal definition of "orphan                                                               
site."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOARIO answered yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BISHOP asked  if the  military was  responsible for  the                                                               
contamination, because that could be researched.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN said page 23  of the report - Hazardous Substance                                                               
Contamination  of Alaska  Native Claims  Settlement Act  lands in                                                               
Alaska  -  provides  a  list  of some  of  the  94  orphan  sites                                                               
identified on September  9, 2015; 41 of those are  owned by ANCSA                                                               
corporations. Others could potentially  be on private, municipal,                                                               
or DOD land.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL   noted  that  the  report   Senator  Hoffman  was                                                               
referring  to  was  very  extensive   and  contained  other  very                                                               
interesting materials.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF  asked what has to change to  get the sites off                                                               
orphan status?                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOARIO said  the  definition  is on  page  20  of that  same                                                               
report. A  site is  considered to be  an orphan  if contamination                                                               
was  present at  the  time  of conveyance  and  the  site is  not                                                               
currently within a clean-up program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN said although corporations  are trying to get the                                                               
federal  government  to  clean up  the  sites,  this  legislation                                                               
doesn't deal with  that. It is trying to deal  with the liability                                                               
issue that  is hovering over  the corporations from  actions that                                                               
were not of their making.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF asked if the  feds could supersede this bill in                                                               
any way, making it irrelevant.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOFFMAN said he didn't  think so. Congress could probably                                                               
pass legislative action saying that  the lands they conveyed were                                                               
transferred as contaminated, but it  was the understanding of the                                                               
corporations   that  they   were   receiving   lands  that   were                                                               
uncontaminated.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:41:20 PM                                                                                                                    
EMILY NAUMAN, Attorney, Legislative  Affairs Agency, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, answered  that SB 202 specifically  deals with state                                                               
liability  and  the  question  is   whether  this  law  could  be                                                               
superseded by future federal law. The  answer is both yes and no,                                                               
and she  explained that there  is a whole secondary  structure of                                                               
federal  liability in  the Comprehensive  Environmental Response,                                                               
Compensation, and  Liability Act  (CERCLA) that could  also cause                                                               
liability to run to a Native  corporation, but she didn't know of                                                               
any specific provision  that allow or disallow  that. However, it                                                               
is always possible  that the federal government  could enact such                                                               
a large piece  of legislation - it being so  comprehensive - that                                                               
the  state  could be  crowded  out  of  this particular  area  of                                                               
environmental regulation, but that would be extremely unlikely.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL said  he wanted  to know  the difference  in the                                                               
definitions for  "corporation" in  U.S. Code  1601 that  is being                                                               
replaced with 1602(m) and he wanted to know the difference.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. NAUMAN  answered the definitions are  substantially the same.                                                               
However, the reference to "narrowing"  the waiver of liability is                                                               
based on  the fact  that the  current waiver  of liability  in AS                                                               
46.03.822(c)(3), which is  repealed in section 4  and only waives                                                               
liability if  the Native corporation  could prove that  the spill                                                               
or threat of  a spill was caused by negligence  or an intentional                                                               
act  or  omission   of  a  third  party,  and   that  the  Native                                                               
corporation didn't  know or didn't  have reason to know  that the                                                               
hazardous substance was spilled or  threatened to spill, and that                                                               
the  Native corporation  took action  to clean  up the  hazardous                                                               
substance  if it  did spill.  The new  exemption provided  in the                                                               
bill doesn't  require a finding  of any  of those facts  before a                                                               
Native corporation's liability is waived.  Under SB 202, a Native                                                               
corporation's liability just simply wouldn't exist.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:45:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  said he  understood from  the sponsor  that they                                                               
just  have  to  prove  the   land  was  contaminated  before  the                                                               
transfer.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. NAUMAN and SENATOR HOFFMAN said that was correct.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL opened public testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HALLIE  BISSETT,   Executive  Director,  Alaska   Native  Village                                                               
Corporation Association, Anchorage,  Alaska, said the association                                                               
was  created  in  2008  by  founding  members  of  the  Kuskokwim                                                               
Corporation  that   consists  of   both  full-paid   members  and                                                               
affiliate-level members of the  Alaska Native Village Corporation                                                               
created under  the ANCSA of  1971. While  over 220 or  so village                                                               
corporations  were created  under that  act, only  about 176  are                                                               
left.  That  is  because  of  mergers  and  companies  that  have                                                               
dissolved or  gone out of  business. The association has  a nine-                                                               
member board of  directors. In order to serve on  it, you have to                                                               
be a CEO,  a chair, or a  COO. Their focus has been  on the issue                                                               
of ANCSA-contaminated lands since 2012.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BISSETT said  they are  very grateful  for the  past support                                                               
they have  received from  the legislature in  their quest  to get                                                               
some resolution  to this issue  at the federal level  by amending                                                               
CERCLA, the federal law that  makes ANCSA corporations liable for                                                               
cleanup  of  these lands.  In  the  past  couple of  years,  they                                                               
discovered through legal analysis that  a change is needed at the                                                               
state level, as  well, because it is very similar  to the federal                                                               
CERCLA law.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She pointed out  a couple of things that she  had heard: that the                                                               
94  orphan sites  are  not even  in  any kind  of  program to  be                                                               
cleaned up,  and 98  percent of  them are within  two miles  of a                                                               
village. Since she  has been working on this project  she has met                                                               
people  from one  side  the river  and everybody  is  dying of  a                                                               
specific  kind of  cancer and  on the  other side  they are  not.                                                               
People of Unalakleet have asked her if she knows about the glow-                                                                
in-the-dark fish and are pretty  sure that PCP contamination that                                                               
is causing everyone in the region to have Parkinson's disease.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BISSETT said this problem is  real and these sites need to be                                                               
cleaned up. All the other  sites are in institutional control and                                                               
are "allegedly  cleaned up" according to  the federal government.                                                               
But the  fact that they  got any contaminated  lands at all  is a                                                               
true  injustice. The  corporations gave  up 88  percent of  their                                                               
traditional lands in exchange for  contaminated lands, and that's                                                               
just unacceptable. It's been 45-plus  years and the land is still                                                               
sitting out there contaminated.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BISSET said  they are  asking the  federal government  every                                                               
year for these  changes. Senator Sullivan was  very successful in                                                               
getting them  in front of  the Senate Environmental  Public Works                                                               
Committee  in March  2017 and  in  August the  committee came  to                                                               
Alaska and were  shown some of these sites.  They were successful                                                               
in getting language introduced at the  federal level on SB 822 to                                                               
amend  CERCLA,  which will  also  give  them the  same  liability                                                               
shield that  SB 202  gives them  at the  state level.  That would                                                               
allow  them to  access more  federal  funds for  cleanup. She  is                                                               
talking specifically about  using Brown Field grants  to clean up                                                               
the sites and getting them  back to their original use (including                                                               
subsistence use) or to develop them into a commercial property.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
She  explained the  reason they  cannot get  those grants  now is                                                               
because the corporation is identified  as a potential responsible                                                               
party (PRP).  The BLM had no  resources to survey when  the lands                                                               
were transferred, and they were  not given the documentation that                                                               
they would  have needed to  know that there was  contamination on                                                               
these sites.  She concluded  that while the  road before  them is                                                               
long, this is a good step in the right direction.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL,  finding  no   further  comments,  closed  public                                                               
testimony and found no questions from members.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  moved  to  report   SB  202,  version  A,  from                                                               
committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached  zero                                                               
fiscal note(s). There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:34 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^Confirmation Hearings: Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                      
   Confirmation Hearings: Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                
                                                                                                                              
3:55:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL called  the meeting  back to  order and  announced                                                               
consideration  of  the  governor's  appointee  to  the  Big  Game                                                               
Commercial  Services  Board. A  fact  sheet  about the  Big  Game                                                               
Commercial Services  Board states that  members serve a  limit of                                                               
two consecutive terms of four  years. There are nine members; two                                                               
are licensed guides and outfitters,  two are transporters, one is                                                               
a member of  the Board of Game  who does not hold  either a guide                                                               
or transport  license, two members  are private land  owners, and                                                               
there  are   two  public  members.   This  board   regulates  the                                                               
activities of  commercial services  to big  game hunters  and the                                                               
compensation is  travel and  per diem. They  meet at  least twice                                                               
per year  for about three  days per meeting  and a maximum  of 14                                                               
days in meetings.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
She  said  this board,  in  particular,  has had  some  financial                                                               
issues in  the past, and it  was actually suspended for  a period                                                               
of time. At  its last audit review (2015)  the recommendation was                                                               
only for  a three-year renewal.  Another audit will be  done next                                                               
year. The  biggest issue,  aside from the  lack of  public notice                                                               
for  some of  their  meetings  and exams  and  minutes not  being                                                               
prepared in a timely manner,  is unfunded debt. In 2014-2015 they                                                               
accrued  a  $1-million  debt,  which   is  predominantly  due  to                                                               
inadequate   fee   setting   and  legal   challenges   to   board                                                               
adjudication issues.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL said  the  people they  will  interview today  are                                                               
brand new members;  the board has four  remaining veteran members                                                               
to help orient the new ones.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:58:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  invited Ms. Heun  who is  applying for one  of the                                                               
transporter seats to tell them why she wants to serve.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:58:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHELLE  HEUN,  nominee  to the  Big  Game  Commercial  Services                                                               
Board, Palmer, Alaska, reviewed her  biography. She is a licensed                                                               
transporter since  June 2014,  having retired  from the  state in                                                               
2013. She now  owns and operates her small  family lodge business                                                               
in the Talkeetna Mountains, accessible  by air only. She welcomes                                                               
the  opportunity to  answer any  of their  questions and  pursued                                                               
this seat  because she  is affected  by the  new fees,  fines and                                                               
regulations, and she likes to  question them and possibly provide                                                               
alternatives.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  noted that  this board had  increased its  fees in                                                               
2016  in  compliance with  statute  requiring  licensing fees  to                                                               
cover regulatory  costs.  It  looks like  each one of  the Alaska                                                               
resident fees went up by  about $200 per two-year license renewal                                                               
and for non-residents it went up by about $400.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:01:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  thanked Ms.  Heun for her  service to  the state                                                               
and then  advised her that  every once in  a while, they  like to                                                               
"get  hard"  on  transporters,  because of  pressure  from  other                                                               
people, but it sounds like she will defend them well.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL invited  Mr. Joyce  to  tell them  a little  about                                                               
himself and why he would want to serve on the board.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CASH  JOYCE,  nominee  for the  transporter  position,  Big  Game                                                               
Commercial Services Board, Wasilla, Alaska,  said he was born and                                                               
raised  in  Alaska  and  is   interested  in  being  an  unbiased                                                               
representative for the people.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER said he is the  owner operator of Vast Alaska, LLC,                                                               
and asked him to explain what that is.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOYCE  replied  that  Vast  Alaska  is  a  registered  guide                                                               
outfitter business and he and  his wife also own Neacola Mountain                                                               
Air Taxi with a transporter license.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked if he had  a chance to be  involved in any                                                               
of the board meetings.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOYCE answered that he  teleconferenced in to the February 15                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL added  that  Mr. Joyce  was  appointed in  January                                                               
2018.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL thanked  him for  being willing  to step  up and                                                               
asked what some the board's major issues are.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOYCE replied there seems  to be a conflict between residents                                                               
and non-residents and the budget deficit.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL said a group  called "Resident Hunters of Alaska"                                                               
will make him  earn his keep. It's important  that both residents                                                               
and non-residents have good rules to play by.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL invited  Mr. Beans  to  tell them  a little  about                                                               
himself and why he would want to serve on the board.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:06:42 PM                                                                                                                    
ROBERT  BEANS, nominee  for private  landowner  member, Big  Game                                                               
Commercial Services Board,  Palmer, Alaska, said he  was born and                                                               
raised in  Alaska. In  fact, he  was born  on a  reservation when                                                               
Alaska was  a Territory.  He would bring  his vast  experience on                                                               
boards  and  commissions from  the  local,  regional, state,  and                                                               
national levels to the board. He  is pragmatic and listens to all                                                               
sides before rendering  a decision on an issue.  He is interested                                                               
in serving the state in  this position, because he currently sits                                                               
on the Calista  Regional Corporation of ANCSA  and has experience                                                               
on a local ANCSA Village Corporation Board.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL said  she noticed that he also served  as a Village                                                               
Public Safety Officer and volunteer firefighter.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEANS added that he also was an Alaska State Trooper.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL thanked him for  being willing to serve and asked                                                               
as a landowner what he expects from that seat on this board.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEANS answered  as a landowner he would  provide insight into                                                               
how they perceive issues. Right  now, there currently isn't a way                                                               
for landowners to self-police their  lands. Normally they rely on                                                               
the state police to do that.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL said one of the  things the board will look at is                                                               
the number of  people going into certain areas.  He remarked that                                                               
elbow-room in  Alaska when it  comes to guiding  and transporting                                                               
can get crowded and intense and  asked if he had been involved in                                                               
issues  where  guides  or  transporters  are  struggling  with  a                                                               
certain area of hunting.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BEANS replied  no; however,  he was  involved in  village to                                                               
village contention, which  lead him and two  other individuals to                                                               
create what was  called a "Moose Moratorium" for  the Lower Yukon                                                               
River. Because of  that effort in 1987, there are  now upwards of                                                               
5,000 moose in that region.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  remarked that  it  sounds  like  he is  a  good                                                               
problem solver.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:12:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL,  finding no questions  from the  committee, opened                                                               
public testimony on all three appointees.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SAM  ROHRER, President,  Alaska Professional  Hunters Association                                                               
(APHA), Kodiak, Alaska, supported  Mr. Joyce's appointment to the                                                               
Big Game Commercial  Services Board. He is a  respected member of                                                               
the hunting  industry and his  experience as  both a guide  and a                                                               
transporter make him well suited to this appointment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:14:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL   finding  no  further   comments  on   the  three                                                               
appointees, closed  public testimony  and thanked them  for being                                                               
willing to  serve. She read  the committee report as  follows: In                                                               
accordance with  AS 39.05.080,  the Resources  Committee reviewed                                                               
the following  and recommends  the appointees  be forwarded  to a                                                               
joint  session for  consideration: Big  Game Commercial  Services                                                               
Board:    Robert Beans,  Palmer; Michelle Heun, Palmer;  and Cash                                                               
Joyce, Wasilla.  This does not  reflect an  intent by any  of the                                                               
members  to  vote   for  or  against  the   confirmation  of  the                                                               
individuals during any further sessions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL, finding no further  business, adjourned the Senate                                                               
Resources Committee meeting at 4:15 p.m.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Senate Resources Agenda - 2 - 26 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB202 - Version A.PDF SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
SB202 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
SB202 - Supporting Document - AK Native Village Corporation Publication.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
SB 202 - Supporting Document - 2016 Dept Interior Report.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
SB202 - Supporting Document - 1998 Dept. Interior Report.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
SB 202 Supporting Documents - Contaminated_Lands_Inventory_of_ANCSA_Conveyed_Lands.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
Big Game Comm Serv Board - Fact Sheet - 2 - 26 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Big Game Commercial Services Board
Big Game Comm Serv Board - Resume - Michell Heun - 2 - 26 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Big Game Commercial Services Board
Big Game Comm Serv Board - Resume - Robert Beans - 2 - 26 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Big Game Commercial Services Board
Big Game Comm Serv Board - Resume - Cash Joyce - 2 - 26 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
Big Game Commercial Services Board
SB202 - Sectional Analysis.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
SB202 - Fiscal Note - Dept Environmental Conservation - 2 - 26 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 202
SB164 - Comments AK Wild Sheep Found - 2 - 23 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/26/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164