Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205

02/19/2018 03:30 PM RESOURCES

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03:30:09 PM Start
03:30:46 PM Consideration of Governor's Appointees
03:59:01 PM SB164
04:50:41 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
- State Assessment Review Board
Mr. Bradley Pickett, Palmer
- Regulatory Commission of Alaska
Ms. Janis Wilson, Anchorage
Mr. Paul Lisankie, Anchorage
-- Public Testimony on Appointees --
+ SB 164 CONFIDENTIALITY OF ANIMAL & CROP RECORDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 19, 2018                                                                                        
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONSIDERATION OF GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
State Assessment Review Board                                                                                                 
 Bradley Pickett, Mat-Su                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA)                                                                                         
 Paul Lisankie, Anchorage                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 164                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the confidentiality of certain records on                                                                   
animals and crops; and providing for an effective date."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 164                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CONFIDENTIALITY OF ANIMAL & CROP RECORDS                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/26/18       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/26/18       (S)       STA, RES                                                                                               
02/08/18       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/08/18       (S)       Moved SB 164 Out of Committee                                                                          
02/08/18       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/09/18       (S)       STA RPT  2DP 3NR                                                                                       
02/09/18       (S)       DP: MEYER, EGAN                                                                                        
02/09/18       (S)       NR: WILSON, GIESSEL, COGHILL                                                                           
02/19/18       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRADLEY PICKETT                                                                                                                 
Mat-Su, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Appointee to the State Assessment Review                                                                  
Board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAUL LISANKIE                                                                                                                   
Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Appointee to the Regulatory Commission of                                                                 
Alaska (RCA).                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TOM BOUTIN, member                                                                                                              
Alaska Chapter Association of Mature American Citizens                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Urged withholding action on any appointee                                                                 
until the Senate District E vacancy is filling.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS, representing himself                                                                                                
President, Alaska's Chapter for Association of Mature American                                                                  
Citizens (AMAC)                                                                                                                 
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Urged withholding action on any appointee                                                                 
until the Senate District E vacancy is filling.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINA CARPENTER, Director                                                                                                   
Division of Environmental Health                                                                                                
Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 164.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT GERLACH, State Veterinarian                                                                                              
Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC)                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 164.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ARTHUR KEYES, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Agriculture                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 164.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER CURRIE                                                                                                                 
Alaska Department of Law                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 164.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AMY SEITZ, Executive Director                                                                                                   
Alaska Farm Bureau                                                                                                              
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 164.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CATHY   GIESSEL  called  the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:30  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were   Senators  Bishop,  Stedman,   Meyer,  Wielechowski,                                                               
Coghill, Von Imhof, and Chair Giessel.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^Consideration of Governor's Appointees                                                                                         
             Consideration of Governor's Appointees                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
3:30:46 PM                                                                                                                  
CHAIR   GIESSEL  announced   consideration   of  the   Governor's                                                               
appointees. She said Ms. Wilson  was on the agenda, but something                                                               
came up and  she couldn't be here. The first  appointment was for                                                               
the  State Assessment  Review Board:  Bradley Pickett,  from Mat-                                                               
Su.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
She said this  is a five-member board that  must be knowledgeable                                                               
about the  assessment procedures  for pipeline  transportation of                                                               
gas or unrefined oil. It meets once  a year for two to three days                                                               
and  the  compensation  is  standard travel  and  per  diem.  She                                                               
invited Mr. Pickett  to the table to tell them  about himself and                                                               
why he  is interested in  serving on the State  Assessment Review                                                               
Board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:32:43 PM                                                                                                                    
BRADLEY PICKETT, appointee to the  State Assessment Review Board,                                                               
Mat-Su,  Alaska,   said  he  is  currently   the  Mat-Su  Borough                                                               
assessor. He has  been in the appraisal business for  16 years, 8                                                               
of which  he served  as the  commercial appraiser.  So, he  has a                                                               
background to serve  on this board and is familiar  with the type                                                               
of  applications they  will be  reviewing.  He is  honored to  be                                                               
appointed to this board and he  looks forward to working with its                                                               
distinguished members  and to  gaining knowledge  as he  works on                                                               
the board.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL thanked  him for  being willing  to step  up and                                                               
serve and asked if he had attended any board meetings.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. PICKETT answered yes, he  attended two meetings last year and                                                               
found them very well run and professional.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL   asked  his  perspective  on   going  from  the                                                               
municipal level to the state level  in terms of what he brings to                                                               
the table and what will be new to him.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PICKETT  replied  that  he brings  a  strong  background  in                                                               
commercial appraisals doing  the cost approach to  the table, but                                                               
he needs to learn some of the oil and gas pipeline terminology.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked if  he had a chance to look  at some of the                                                               
case law that the legal experts on that board represent.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PICKETT  replied that  they  had  given him  information  to                                                               
review,  and  he  has  reviewed some  the  legal  standings  that                                                               
previous cases were based on.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL, finding  no further  questions  for Mr.  Pickett,                                                               
invited Mr.  Lisankie, who has  been appointed to  the Regulatory                                                               
Commission  of  Alaska (RCA)  to  tell  the committee  about  the                                                               
experience that  would qualify him  for this position and  why he                                                               
is  seeking  it.  She  said  this  is  a  five-member  board  and                                                               
requirements are:  good standing with the  Alaska Bar Association                                                               
or  a degree  with a  major in  engineering, finance,  economics,                                                               
accounting,  business administration,  or public  administration,                                                               
and then  actual experience  for a  period of  five years  in the                                                               
practice  of  law  or  in  the  field  of  engineering,  finance,                                                               
economics,   accounting,  business   administration,  or   public                                                               
administration.  The compensation  is  a range  27  as an  exempt                                                               
employee and the hearings are continuous throughout the year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL LISANKIE, appointee, Regulatory  Commission of Alaska (RCA),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  introduced himself. He thanked  the committee                                                               
for the opportunity to appear  before them today. He also thanked                                                               
Governor Walker  for appointing him  to complete the term  of his                                                               
former colleague, Commissioner  and former representative, Norman                                                               
Rokeberg. This appointment is due to expire March 1, 2019.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE said  he had just completed a  full term, 2009-2015,                                                               
on  the  RCA  and  left   a  substantial  record  concerning  the                                                               
regulatory  matters  he   dealt  with  and  the   nature  of  his                                                               
participation  in them.  He  is  a lawyer  who  has  a degree  in                                                               
economics. He  said those with an  economics background sometimes                                                               
have  more exposure  to  numbers  than some  of  the lawyers.  In                                                               
dealing with rate cases, exposure  to statistics and mathematical                                                               
analysis comes in handy.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:41:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LISANKIE  said he is  an Alaskan by  choice and has  lived in                                                               
Anchorage since  1984. He  arrived in Kodiak  in 1982.  Since his                                                               
retirement, the  longest he has been  out of state is  26 days in                                                               
one shot.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He said it  is an honor -  and a great responsibility  - to serve                                                               
the people of Alaska in this  capacity, Mr. Lisankie said, and he                                                               
attempts to be  diligent in his preparations, so he  can be fully                                                               
prepared  to responsibly  consider the  matters that  come before                                                               
the commission.  He tries  to treat  everyone coming  before them                                                               
with respect, and  to fairly resolve disputes to the  best of his                                                               
ability.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE said in the past,  when the RCA resolved disputes or                                                               
adopted regulations,  he tries to  apply basic  broad guidelines,                                                               
and  most importantly,  make sure  their  actions are  consistent                                                               
with  the   intent  of   the  underlying   statutory  provisions.                                                               
Similarly,  when they  are asked  to make  policy pronouncements,                                                               
his  first and  last  questions are  whether  they are  operating                                                               
within the parameters of the  statutory provisions that they have                                                               
been appointed to apply.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Lastly,  he   apologized  if   he  makes   extra  work   for  the                                                               
legislature, but  he sometimes says  if he is not  convinced that                                                               
what  they are  being asked  to do  falls within  their statutory                                                               
authority, no  matter how  good the  idea, his  recommendation is                                                               
that the legislature  be consulted, and the  law be appropriately                                                               
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF asked if he  anticipated the RCA looking at the                                                               
Chugach/ML&P purchase.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE answered yes; he expects  that the RCA will be asked                                                               
to  examine any  proposed  sale  of Municipal  Light  & Power  to                                                               
Chugach Electric Association. But  the process hasn't evolved yet                                                               
and he hadn't done much to prepare.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:45:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  thanked him for  stepping up and  serving again.                                                               
He said  that Mr.  Lisankie deals  with several  different worlds                                                               
within  the  RCA  and  as  a commission  there  has  always  been                                                               
pressure on  how to deal  in depth with  some of the  issues that                                                               
are different on  hydrocarbons versus electrons and  asked how he                                                               
sees the legislature doing in his experience.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE  said he touched  the core of  a lot of  the primary                                                               
challenges the  commissioner faces  on a policy  basis. A  lot of                                                               
what the  commission is  asked to do  is to fill  in some  of the                                                               
particulars  of broader  policy  guidelines. It's  not easy.  For                                                               
every good  idea, somebody thinks  it's a  bad idea. But  they do                                                               
their best  to parse  what works  for Alaska.  Alaska may  not be                                                               
unique  in  certain  ways,  but  when  it  comes  to  energy  and                                                               
regulating utilities, Alaska is unique,  and is referred to as an                                                               
"energy archipelago,"  islanded by  various mountain  ranges, the                                                               
sea,  and rivers.  Trying to  adopt what  the Lower  48 is  doing                                                               
doesn't always  work in Alaska. All  he could promise is  that he                                                               
would take  a hard look  and try to do  what seems to  make sense                                                               
for Alaska regardless of how it plays at the annual convention.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  said   he  knows  every  topic   is  dense  and                                                               
complicated and often the question  of separating out some of the                                                               
units like the telecoms from the  electron world or the gas world                                                               
filters up to the legislature.  They are so vastly different, and                                                               
the bodies  of law seem  to get bigger and  bigger.  He  asked if                                                               
the RCA staff  has the expertise and the workload  time to handle                                                               
those  complexities. Should  subject  experts be  housed in  each                                                               
section?                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE  replied that  he had  been back  for two  weeks, he                                                               
can't  give  him an  up-to-the-minute  impression.  Based on  his                                                               
prior experience,  he felt that staff  was able to deal  with the                                                               
subject matters confronting them.  However, they have fewer staff                                                               
today than  three years ago,  and he would  take a hard  look and                                                               
ask the chairman for his opinion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  said this is a  public seat and asked  what seat                                                               
he held prior.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE replied  that they are all  denominated public, now.                                                               
The RCA  changed its laws  years ago, and there's  no denominated                                                               
seats.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  the  big issue  for Southcentral  has                                                               
been Cook  Inlet gas  prices over  the years and  asked if  he is                                                               
comfortable  in terms  of one  corporation holding  a predominant                                                               
amount of the  gas. Does Cook Inlet  have sufficient competition,                                                               
so utilities can get fair gas prices?                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE  answered there is  not a  lot of leverage  to drive                                                               
competition in the  gas market in Cook Inlet and  no control over                                                               
who  acquires   what  assets.  The   natural  gas   industry  was                                                               
deregulated by  the federal  government and  he wished  there was                                                               
more competition.  He will  do whatever he  can in  approving gas                                                               
contracts that  are negotiated by  the various utilities  to give                                                               
them  the flexibility  to inject  whatever  competition they  can                                                               
through negotiated procurements.  Not much more could  be done at                                                               
this point.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  remarked that Mr.  Lisankie failed  at retirement                                                               
twice and the state thanks him for it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. LISANKIE  assured him  that he  was coming  into this  one by                                                               
telling  everybody  his  intention  is to  serve  out  the  short                                                               
remainder of Commissioner Rokeberg's term  and then ride off into                                                               
the sunset.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  said   Mr.  Lisankie  bailed  him   out  at  the                                                               
Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development (DOLWD)  when he                                                               
stepped  up to  the plate  then: he  was going  to retire  a year                                                               
early  and it  appears that  everything  he said  about being  in                                                               
Alaska by choice is true.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  also thanked him for  being willing to step  in to                                                               
an open seat.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL opened public comment on the two appointees.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:29 PM                                                                                                                    
TOM  BOUTIN,   member,  Alaska  Chapter  Association   of  Mature                                                               
American Citizens, Juneau, Alaska,  urged them to withhold action                                                               
on  any  Walker  Administration  appointees until  he  fills  the                                                               
Senate District E vacancy.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  COONS,  representing  himself,  said he  is  president,  of                                                               
Alaska's  Chapter for  Association  of  Mature American  Citizens                                                               
(AMAC), Palmer, Alaska, commented off topic.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL,  finding  no   further  comments,  closed  public                                                               
testimony.  She  said  in  accordance   with  AS  39.05.080,  the                                                               
Resources  Committee reviewed  the following  and recommends  the                                                               
appointments be  forwarded to a joint  session for consideration:                                                               
Bradley  Pickett and  Paul  Lisankie. This  does  not reflect  an                                                               
intent  by  any  of  the  members to  vote  for  or  against  the                                                               
confirmation of the individuals during any further sessions.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:57:58 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        SB 164-CONFIDENTIALITY OF ANIMAL & CROP RECORDS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:59:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  announced consideration  of SB  164 [30-GS2584\A],                                                               
sponsored by the Rules Committee  at the request of the Governor.                                                               
She said  Alita Bus  was at  the table  and would  manipulate the                                                               
slides  for  those  speaking  on  line,  Arthur  Keys,  Director,                                                               
Division of  Agriculture, Department of Natural  Resources (DNR),                                                               
Christina  Carpenter,   Director*  Division  of   Public  Health,                                                               
Department  of  Environmental   Conservation  (DEC),  and  Robert                                                               
Gerlach,   State   Veterinarian,  Department   of   Environmental                                                               
Conservation (DEC).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINA CARPENTER, Director,  Division of Environmental Health,                                                               
Department  of  Environmental  Conservation,  Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
said SB 164 amends AS 03.05 to  add a new section to make certain                                                               
animal  health and  crop  records held  by the  DEC  and DNR  are                                                               
confidential.  This has  been a  coordinated  effort across  both                                                               
departments,   but  the   request   is   coming  from   industry.                                                               
Agricultural producers  have contacted  them repeatedly  over the                                                               
last 10  years or so  requesting a  change in statute  that would                                                               
provide    Alaskan    agricultural   producers    with    similar                                                               
confidentiality   that  is   already  afforded   to  many   other                                                               
commercial  industries   in  Alaska.  For  example,   the  Alaska                                                               
Department  of  Fish   and  Game  (ADF&G)  has   a  statute  that                                                               
specifically  makes  commercial  fishing  records  held  by  them                                                               
confidential. That was  used as an example in  working with their                                                               
attorney to develop this bill.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:02:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CARPENTER   said  she  calls   this  the   Health  Insurance                                                               
Portability  and Accountability  Act  (HIPAA) for  hogs and  hay.                                                               
They  believe  it  would  allow the  department  to  engage  with                                                               
Alaskan producers  earlier in  the event  of a  suspected disease                                                               
outbreak,  morbidity, or  mortality circumstance,  to identify  a                                                               
threat early on and try to  limit any sort of disease outbreak so                                                               
that it wouldn't spread to  neighboring facilities or be a public                                                               
health risk.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL asked  her  to justify  why  having these  records                                                               
confidential protects  the public,  because that  is the  role of                                                               
these kinds of animal and crop testing procedures.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:04:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CARPENTER  replied  in  the  event  there  was  a  suspected                                                               
zoonotic disease outbreak  on a farm, but it  wasn't a reportable                                                               
disease,  the  department would  hope  that  producers and  their                                                               
private veterinarians  would engage  with them very  early before                                                               
the  outbreak  grew  and  got   off  premise  and  maybe  started                                                               
impacting some of their neighbors or members of the public.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The department  believes that engaging  with farmers  early would                                                               
encourage better animal and public  health, because they would no                                                               
longer  be  reluctant  to  submit   their  animals  or  crops  to                                                               
voluntary  testing, and  the department  could respond  faster in                                                               
the event of a disease outbreak.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:05:32 PM                                                                                                                    
ROBERT GERLACH,  State Veterinarian, Department  of Environmental                                                               
Conservation  (DEC),  Anchorage,  Alaska,   said  his  office  is                                                               
responsible  for  the  prevention, control,  and  eradication  of                                                               
animal  diseases for  livestock  and pets,  as  well as  diseases                                                               
livestock and pets  may carry that may be  transmitted to people,                                                               
as well  as food safety.  To do these  jobs they need  to collect                                                               
quite a  bit of data and  information from animal owners  - where                                                               
they obtained their animals, where  the animals are located, what                                                               
disease test  records they may  have, and what animals  are being                                                               
processed  to  other  farms  or  locations, so  if  there  is  an                                                               
outbreak, they would have access  to that information to do their                                                               
job.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:06:59 PM                                                                                                                    
Every year  they are collecting  more and more data  from people,                                                               
because  of  animal  disease  certification  programs  and  other                                                               
marketing  programs  that  require  this  data  collection  which                                                               
includes import  data on  permits and  health records  of animals                                                               
coming into the  state and disease surveillance  records that are                                                               
kept to  ensure that  state and  international partners  that the                                                               
state is free of diseases (such as TB or rabies).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH explained  that a lot of these  programs are required                                                               
for access to certain markets;  some are required for importation                                                               
of animals  to the state  and some are  just for proof  of animal                                                               
health. Others are validation programs  that are used for farmers                                                               
to gain access  to markets and to be able  to promote and declare                                                               
the  quality  of  their  product  as a  marketing  tool.  As  the                                                               
department collects this  data, they would like to  be able share                                                               
it with their  partners who would be involved  with mitigating or                                                               
controlling  the spread  of disease  and keeping  animals healthy                                                               
and  food  safe,  and   not  necessarily  releasing  confidential                                                               
business data, proprietary,  or personal data that  may leave the                                                               
producer  vulnerable. It  would allow  the department  to collect                                                               
more  data and  have more  people participate  in these  programs                                                               
while   protecting   the   proprietary   information   from   the                                                               
participants.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:09:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  remarked that the  header on slide 4  says "Office                                                               
of the  State Veterinarian" but  he is not the  only veterinarian                                                               
in state government.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH  said that  is true;  several veterinarians  work for                                                               
the state, but he is  the only veterinarian in statute classified                                                               
as  the  State Veterinarian  with  the  authority for  regulating                                                               
animal health,  collecting this data,  and being  responsible for                                                               
the control and mitigation to prevent the spread of diseases.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked him to  clarify that the Department of Health                                                               
and Social Services (DHSS) has  at least one veterinarian and the                                                               
Department   of   Natural   Resources  (DNR)   has   a   wildlife                                                               
veterinarian  and  to describe  his  interaction  with the  other                                                               
state veterinarians.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GERLACH  replied  that  his  interaction  with  those  other                                                               
veterinarians is  on a continual  basis regarding  disease issues                                                               
that would be important to  their particular function. Dr. Louisa                                                               
Castrodale in the Division of  Public Health in the Department of                                                               
Health and  Social Services (DHSS)  is involved with  food safety                                                               
and zoonotic disease issues as  well as the epidemiology of other                                                               
human diseases when  it comes down to  identifying or determining                                                               
an  outbreak or  a  contaminated product.  His responsibility  is                                                               
limited to control  of the animals and Dr.  Castrodale would work                                                               
with  public  health officials  to  control  and prevent  further                                                               
spread in the case of a zoonotic disease among human beings.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
In  regard to  the functions  of Dr.  Kimberly Beckman,  ADF&G is                                                               
looking  at hiring  a second  veterinarian and  the same  type of                                                               
cooperation  would  be used  to  control  a disease  outbreak  in                                                               
domestic  animals  from  spreading   to  wildlife  resources.  It                                                               
applies to  a disease that  could impact  the food safety  of the                                                               
meat   or   animals   that   are   harvested   for   subsistence,                                                               
recreational, or commercial use.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:12:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL asked  how many  staff  are in  the dairy  program                                                               
(slide 5) and how many dairy farms are in Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH  replied that there  is one dairy farm  in production                                                               
of Grade  A milk  and a  second is gearing  up for  production. A                                                               
third  dairy  is  considering  participating   in  grade  A  milk                                                               
production  of   pasteurized  milk   for  commercial   sale.  The                                                               
department is  working with those two  dairies to get them  up to                                                               
speed to meet the facility  requirements for the care and feeding                                                               
of   animals,  sanitation   and   disinfection,  transport,   and                                                               
processing at  a pasteurization plant  to make sure that  the end                                                               
product meets the state requirements for Grade A milk.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:13:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked how many people are in the dairy section.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GERLACH replied  that two  other  people work  in the  dairy                                                               
program: Dr.  Sarah Coburn, Assistant  State Veterinarian,  and a                                                               
dairy  sanitarian  who  does  the   farm  inspections  and  tests                                                               
equipment.  Dr.   Coburn  does   many  of  the   inspections  and                                                               
certification inspects and acts as  the communicator with the FDA                                                               
to  assure  that  the  state   program  is  meeting  the  federal                                                               
requirements for production of Grade A milk.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  said she  assumed that the  dairies must  pay fees                                                               
that cover this program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH replied  there is a permit fee to  initially become a                                                               
part  of the  program, but  the equipment  test, sanitation,  and                                                               
farm inspection  do not have  a charge, neither does  the testing                                                               
of raw  milk as well  as the processed  products that is  done at                                                               
the Environmental Health Laboratory in Anchorage                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:15:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GERLACH said slide 6  showed the increased number of imported                                                               
animals  in the  last  four  fiscal years  which  resulted in  an                                                               
increase in  import permits, demonstrating the  growing amount of                                                               
information  being  collected  from  a larger  number  of  people                                                               
throughout the  state. Keeping that information  confidential, it                                                               
protects  or business  data.  Because of  taking  primacy of  the                                                               
Produce   Food   Safety   Program    under   the   Federal   Drug                                                               
Administration's (FDA)  Food Safety Modernization Act,  the state                                                               
is also collecting data from  an increased number of agricultural                                                               
farms.  It requires  farms to  disclose financial  information as                                                               
well as product and inspection  information on their farms, which                                                               
is the business and proprietary data that he wants to protect.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:17:11 PM                                                                                                                    
He said  slide 7 lists some  of the disease outbreaks  in Alaska.                                                               
The point  is to  show that  they collect  a lot  of surveillance                                                               
data  to  maintain  a  large list  of  reportable  diseases  that                                                               
producers and veterinarians are required  to report to them. This                                                               
data is  used to  investigate morbidity  and mortality  events in                                                               
both wild  and domestic animals across  the state to get  an idea                                                               
of disease issues  and try to maintain animal  health and prevent                                                               
spread of  these diseases.  The number of  reports they  get each                                                               
year for this type of disease outbreak is increasing, as well.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH said they want  people to feel comfortable in sharing                                                               
their  data with  the department.  With  this bill  they want  to                                                               
collect  and   maintain  data   while  protecting   business  and                                                               
proprietary data that  can often be misused or  put that producer                                                               
in a vulnerable state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked if the  information gets disclosed  if there                                                               
is an outbreak.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GERLACH  answered  yes,  it   would  be  shared  with  their                                                               
partners.  Zoonotic or  food borne  disease information  would be                                                               
shared with the Department of  Health and Social Services (DHSS),                                                               
the  Food Safety  Sanitation  Division in  DEC,  the Centers  for                                                               
Disease  Control  (CDC)  and  the  FDA.  Data  from  an  outbreak                                                               
associated  with  a  disease  that might  impact  the  health  of                                                               
livestock or domestic pets, as  well as wildlife, would be shared                                                               
with the  DNR, the  Alaska Department of  Fish and  Game (ADF&G),                                                               
and  with the  U.S.  Department of  Agriculture  (USDA) so  their                                                               
resources could be  used to help his division do  a better job in                                                               
containing the disease and preventing the spread.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:20:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER  asked what prevents people  from importing animals                                                               
and then selling them as Alaska-grown.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GERLACH replied  as long  as  animal meet  both federal  and                                                               
state requirements  for importation into  the state, they  can be                                                               
used by the  importer for whatever purpose they  intend them for.                                                               
If  it's for  commercial sale,  the labelling  and marketing  are                                                               
regulated by  other entities.  If the  owner is  going to  make a                                                               
claim that it meets the  standards for Alaska-grown products, the                                                               
Division  of Agriculture  is responsible  for validation  of that                                                               
program and would approach that  producer to get information that                                                               
would  assure that  the product  they are  selling does  meet the                                                               
Alaska-grown program requirements.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL said,  so you  must regulate  animals as  they are                                                               
imported and  asked if he  would share that information  with the                                                               
Division of Agriculture.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH  replied not necessarily.  The import  information is                                                               
maintained to keep  track of animals that come into  the state to                                                               
make sure  they are not  threatening the health of  other animals                                                               
whether  domestic or  wild. That  data is  not shared  with other                                                               
entities.  As slide  6 indicates  they give  reports to  the Farm                                                               
Bureau and  producers as  well as  the Alaska  Veterinary Medical                                                               
Association and the  USDA to inform them of the  animals that are                                                               
being imported and the work the department is doing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:23:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP asked  if  most  of the  imports  come via  truck                                                               
through Canada and what the impound timeline is.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH  answered in the  past, most animals came  up through                                                               
the land port  at the Alaska-Canada Highway or  down into Haines.                                                               
Recently that  changed with the animal  transport restrictions in                                                               
Canada  for sheep  and  goats. Now  many of  the  sheep and  goat                                                               
producers are shipping  animals up by airline. He  said they have                                                               
been working  with the  Canadians and the  USDA to  resolve those                                                               
issues to  provide better service  for the producers who  want to                                                               
bring  up new  animals  for increasing  the  efficiency of  their                                                               
production and  broadening genetic stock. Probably  a minority of                                                               
animals are moved up through the ferry system.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP asked  if the animals are impounded  when they get                                                               
here.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH replied no. The ports  don't have a person that would                                                               
have the authority  to do that. State import  regulations are set                                                               
so  that people  are assured  animals are  healthy and  safe when                                                               
they come  through the border  and to the final  destination. One                                                               
of the reasons  they want to provide this  confidentiality to the                                                               
producers is  if the animals  do have a  problem, they will  do a                                                               
follow-up  report  to  his office.  Some  animals  imported  from                                                               
Canada directly are  impounded at the destination  until they can                                                               
be inspected by  the USDA veterinarian. Often his  office sends a                                                               
representative with him.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:26:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CARPENTER said slide 8 was a brief sectional analysis as                                                                    
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1:   Makes  certain  animal  and crop  records                                                                    
     maintained   by   the  Departments   of   Environmental                                                                    
     Conservation  and  Natural  Resources exempt  from  the                                                                    
     Alaska Public Records Act if they                                                                                          
      1) are importation records  that identify a particular                                                                    
     animal, crop, business, or individual;                                                                                     
      2)  contain animal  or crop  test  results if  certain                                                                    
     conditions are met; or                                                                                                     
      3)  are  trade  secrets  or  proprietary  business  or                                                                    
     financial information.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Allows the Departments to  disclose the above described                                                                    
     records  in the  case  that  the Departments  determine                                                                    
     that there  is a threat to  the health or safety  of an                                                                    
     animal, crop, or the public.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Provides the definition of "varietal".                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2:  Allows  the Departments  of  Environmental                                                                    
     Conservation   and    Natural   Resources    to   adopt                                                                    
     regulations  to implement  the Act.  She  said at  this                                                                    
     time,  DEC   does  not   see  a   need  to   adopt  any                                                                    
     regulations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3: Provides  for an  immediate effective  date                                                                    
     for Section 2.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Slide 9 recapped the benefits captured with passage of SB 164:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Routine  surveillance  testing   may  encourage  better                                                                    
     animal husbandry  and crop  management, resulting  in a                                                                    
     higher   quality  product   for   sale  and   increased                                                                    
     production efficiency.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Early  identification  and  testing  of  sick  or  dead                                                                    
     animals  and crops  decreases  the  potential for  more                                                                    
     serious  outbreaks  and  spread  of  disease  to  other                                                                    
     farms, plants or wildlife.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     [Confidentiality  of proprietary  data prevents  unfair                                                                    
     advantage   to    a   competitor    regarding   product                                                                    
     development, marketing strategy, and source of animal                                                                      
     inventory.]                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked what has  to be done  immediately, because                                                               
the confidentiality issue could  impact business practices. Is it                                                               
a welcome relief or a yank in the system?                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH  replied that  it is a  welcome relief  for producers                                                               
knowing  that the  personal  and business  data  from the  animal                                                               
owners and the  agricultural farms that are  participating in the                                                               
Produce Food Safety Program will be kept confidential.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:30:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL said  once that happens, he would  need some kind                                                               
of alert  that is  not in  place now and  asked what  practice he                                                               
would have to institute.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH replied  that they already have  a communication plan                                                               
for  response  to  disease  outbreaks as  part  of  an  emergency                                                               
response plan. It  is very important for just  the daily function                                                               
of doing their job.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:31:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL said  he anticipated usage would go  up and would                                                               
that involve a fiscal note.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH replied there wouldn't  be any increase in the number                                                               
of reports  as just  part of  the department's  normal functions;                                                               
there would be no fiscal note.  For a disease outbreak they would                                                               
normally  release  only the  appropriate  data  pertinent to  the                                                               
threat  at hand.  A good  example may  be a  disease outbreak  of                                                               
Tuberculosis on  a farm.  They would  contact their  other animal                                                               
health participants  about it and  the DHSS  because Tuberculosis                                                               
from  animals  can be  transmitted  to  people. Then  they  would                                                               
contact the farms adjacent to the  outbreak farm to see if any of                                                               
their  animals had  been exposed.  Then  they would  go back  and                                                               
determine from the animal records  where those animals originated                                                               
to determine where the disease  may have been introduced, whether                                                               
from a  new import of  animals or  the possibility that  a worker                                                               
came to the  farm who actually had tuberculosis  and infected the                                                               
animals (which  has happened  in other  states). Then  they would                                                               
look at  the animal movement records  to see if any  animals were                                                               
moved  from that  farm to  another farm,  and then  contact those                                                               
individuals, test  and do surveillance  on their farms to  see if                                                               
the disease may have spread.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:33:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said he was  trying to determine the meaning                                                               
of "varietal" on page 1. The  definition on the next page says it                                                               
means  "characteristic  of  or  forming  a  distinct  variety  of                                                               
organism," which seemed odd.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER said  she would  defer that  question to  the DNR,                                                               
because that definition was added at their request.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ARTHUR KEYES,  Director, Division  of Agriculture,  Department of                                                               
Natural  Resources  (DNR),  Palmer, Alaska,  explained  that  the                                                               
Plant Material  Center has  over 230  varieties of  potatoes. So,                                                               
variety is broad definition of different varieties of crops.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL summarized that Mr.  Keyes was saying "varietal" is                                                               
a term of  art for various varieties of  particular vegetables or                                                               
other plants.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KEYES said  that was  a good  way to  put it.  For instance,                                                               
everyone knows what a red delicious  apple is, but there are over                                                               
50 different  varieties of red  delicious apple. That  holds true                                                               
for a lot of crops.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:36:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said he  just wanted to  bring it  to their                                                               
attention and  if everyone is  fine with it,  he is, too.  He had                                                               
another question on page 2, lines 7-11, where it says:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     (b) Notwithstanding  (a) of this  section, DEC  and DNR                                                                    
     may  disclose  any records  that  are  subject to  this                                                                    
     section if  they find  there is a  threat to  health or                                                                    
     safety of an animal, crop, or the public.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He asked how that works in  reality, because this is a Freedom of                                                               
Information Act provision.  Is there a right of  appeal? He noted                                                               
that language says "may" not "shall" disclose....                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH replied  information that would be  released would be                                                               
at  the  discretion  of  the  Office  of  State  Veterinarian  in                                                               
consultation  with   the  director  and  commissioner.   Not  all                                                               
information would be  released. For instance, for  an outbreak of                                                               
a disease at  a farm, only the information that  was pertinent to                                                               
the threat either to other animals  or the public, or an issue of                                                               
food  safety  would  be  released.  They  would  not  necessarily                                                               
release the total  number of animals that are on  the farm or the                                                               
fact  that  the  farmer  owned  chickens (if  it  was  a  disease                                                               
outbreak in cattle) unless that  disease would affect those other                                                               
animals  and raise  concern  about those  other  species being  a                                                               
source of spreading it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI pointed  out they  are making  DEC and  DNR                                                               
complete  gatekeepers of  these records,  and  that is  a lot  of                                                               
power. It's a policy call that makes him a bit uncomfortable.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERLACH said  they are bound by  professional and interaction                                                               
requirements of  the USDA  and other  public health  officials to                                                               
disclose that information.  So, if there is a threat,  it must be                                                               
disclosed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   asked  for   a  copy  of   any  statutes,                                                               
regulations, or ethical requirements  that would bind somebody in                                                               
DNR and DEC to disclose that information.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  asked   the  Department  of  Law   if  any  other                                                               
information might be helpful.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:40:56 PM                                                                                                                    
JENNIFER  CURRIE, Alaska  Department of  Law, Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
said that Dr. Gerlach had addressed  when he would be required to                                                               
disclose  information   and  she  imagined   circumstances  might                                                               
require  some of  this information  remain  undisclosed, but  she                                                               
wasn't 100 percent sure.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked if she heard  the concern about the term "may                                                               
disclose" and  wondered if this particular  section was patterned                                                               
after  other confidential  information  and disclosure  language.                                                               
Why does it say "may?"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURRIE answered that she  didn't draft this language based on                                                               
any  other  disclosure statutes,  adding  that  she would  review                                                               
them.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL said  that  would be  helpful.  She opened  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:42:51 PM                                                                                                                    
AMY  SEITZ,  Executive  Director,   Alaska  Farm  Bureau,  Kenai,                                                               
Alaska,  supported SB  164. Allowing  confidentiality of  certain                                                               
personal and business  records for farmers will  afford them some                                                               
security  in  their business  and  keeping  animals healthy,  she                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        In order to comply with state and federal laws,                                                                         
     farmers have to provide certain information to DEC or                                                                      
     DNR. There  are also situations  where a farmer  may be                                                                    
     required to submit test results  or want to participate                                                                    
     in voluntary disease testing. Records  that DEC and DNR                                                                    
     maintain can be very  specific to particular animals or                                                                    
     crops,  information  on  our  farmers'  businesses  and                                                                    
     results  from  testing,  and under  current  law  these                                                                    
     records are not protected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     We want  our farmers  to feel comfortable  working with                                                                    
     state  agencies  in  maintaining   the  health  of  our                                                                    
     animals and crops, and also  the public health. Knowing                                                                    
     that  someone  could  access specifics  on  these  test                                                                    
     results - who tested, where  they are located, and what                                                                    
     the test  results were  - does  not afford  farmers the                                                                    
     security  necessary for  them to  participate in  these                                                                    
     testing    for    diseases.   Having    more    farmers                                                                    
     participating in  testing could help us  produce higher                                                                    
     quality   products   and   increase   efficiencies   in                                                                    
     production. It  could also help  as an  early detection                                                                    
     of  a  possible outbreak  of  diseases,  and our  state                                                                    
     agencies  having this  information could  help them  be                                                                    
     ready in the event of a health concern.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Our farmers  should also have  the security  of knowing                                                                    
     that   certain   import   and  business   records   are                                                                    
     confidential. These records  that identify a particular                                                                    
     animal,  crop,  business,  or individual  shouldn't  be                                                                    
     public information,  especially when we are  looking at                                                                    
     new rules  like the Federal Produce  Safety Rule coming                                                                    
     on line.  If our  farmers are going  to be  required to                                                                    
     submit  financial  records   to  state  agencies,  they                                                                    
     should be  afforded the protections that  those records                                                                    
     are   going  to   be  confidential.   Other  commercial                                                                    
     industries are already afforded those securities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     For  recent examples:  right now,  some of  our farmers                                                                    
     are  dealing  with  the  sheep  and  goat  issue  where                                                                    
     Mycoplasma ovapneumoniae is of  concern and they opened                                                                    
     up a  voluntary testing  program to  find out  what the                                                                    
     prevalence  is here  in the  state. Once  the producers                                                                    
     learned that  there was not confidentiality  within the                                                                    
     Office of  the State Veterinarian,  there was a  lot of                                                                    
     concern to participate.  We did work around  it, but it                                                                    
     made a little  more of a hassle not being  able to have                                                                    
     it go through one office.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Also, we  have discussed  the option of  a Disease-free                                                                    
     Certification Program  for people  who want to  do goat                                                                    
     packing, but  again, once  producers learned  there was                                                                    
     not confidentiality of these  records within the Office                                                                    
     of  the   State  Veterinarian,  there  was   a  lot  of                                                                    
     reluctance to participate in something like that.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     SB  164 would  add a  lot protection  for our  farmers'                                                                    
     businesses, but  it would still  allow, if there  was a                                                                    
     health  or safety  threat,  that  information could  be                                                                    
     released so the appropriate  agencies could protect the                                                                    
     public.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL asked  her if  she could  better explain  the term                                                               
"varietal."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SEITZ answered  that Mr.  Keyes did  a good  job of  talking                                                               
about what  it means.  Even within  one crop there  are a  lot of                                                               
different sub-varieties. She wasn't the best one to ask.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked why that would have to be kept confidential.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. SEITZ replied that a lot  of decisions about what to grow are                                                               
business decisions.  For instance,  one farmer may  discover they                                                               
are really good at growing a  specific variety of potato and they                                                               
may not want  to share where they  get the seed start  for it. An                                                               
animal  farmer  could  find  out  where  a  particular  breed  is                                                               
purchased and beat out the original farmer.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:50:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL said she would  leave public testimony open and set                                                               
SB 164 aside and wait for information to get back to them.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:50:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL, finding no further  business, adjourned the Senate                                                               
Resources Committee meeting at 4:50 p.m.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Senate Resources Agenda - 2 - 19 - 2018 .pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Fact Sheet - State Assessment Review Board - 2 - 19 - 2018 .pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Resume - Bradly Pickett to SARB.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Fact Sheet - Regulatory Commission of Alaska - 2 - 19 - 2018 .pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Resume - Paul Lisankie to RCA.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
Appointments - Resume - Janis Wilson to RCA.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB164 Ver A.PDF SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164
SB164 Transmittal Letter.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164
SB164 - Presentation from ADEC - 2 - 19 - 2018.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164
SB164 Fiscal Note-DEC-EHL-01-25-18.PDF SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164
SB164 Additional Documentation - DEC Letter re Alaska Grown.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164
SB164 Supporting Documents - Homer Swift Creek Ranch 2.8.2018.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164
SB164 - Letter of Support - Tina Judd.pdf SRES 2/19/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 164