Legislature(2013 - 2014)BUTROVICH 205

03/21/2014 03:30 PM RESOURCES


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*+ SB 28 SUSITNA STATE FOREST; SALE OF TIMBER TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 28(RES) Out of Committee
Uniform Rule 23 Waived
+ HB 161 AUCTIONS FOR BIG GAME HARVEST PERMITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <If Time Permits> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= SB 160 DNR: HUNTING GUIDES, CONCESSION PROGRAM
Moved SB 160 Out of Committee
                 ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                     
           SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                
                      March 21, 2014                                                                                            
                        3:30 p.m.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Fred Dyson, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Anna Fairclough                                                                                                         
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 160                                                                                                             
"An   Act   authorizing   the   commissioner   of   natural                                                                     
resources   to  implement   a  hunting   guide  concession                                                                      
program  or  otherwise  limit  the  number  of individuals                                                                      
authorized  to  conduct  big  game  commercial  guiding  on                                                                     
state land."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 160 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 28                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to the  sale of  timber  on state  land;                                                                     
establishing  the  Susitna  State  Forest;   and providing                                                                      
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSB 28(RES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 161(RES)                                                                                
"An  Act relating  to  auctions  or  raffles for  big  game                                                                     
harvest  permits   and  to  the   selection  of  nonprofit                                                                      
organizations to conduct auctions and raffles for the                                                                           
Department of Fish and Game."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 160                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DNR: HUNTING GUIDES, CONCESSION PROGRAM                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COGHILL                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
02/07/14      (S)      READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                          
02/07/14      (S)      RES, FIN                                                                                                 
03/14/14      (S)      RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                             
03/14/14      (S)      <Bill Hearing Postponed>                                                                                 
03/17/14      (S)      RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                             
03/17/14      (S)      Heard & Held                                                                                             
03/17/14      (S)      MINUTE(RES)                                                                                              
03/19/14      (S)      RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                             
03/19/14      (S)      Heard & Held                                                                                             
03/19/14      (S)      MINUTE(RES)                                                                                              
03/21/14      (S)      RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  28                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SUSITNA STATE FOREST; SALE OF TIMBER                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/18/13      (S)      READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                          
01/18/13      (S)      RES, FIN                                                                                                 
03/19/14      (S)      RES WAIVED PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE,                                                                        
                       RULE 23                                                                                                  
03/21/14      (S)      RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 161                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: AUCTIONS FOR BIG GAME HARVEST PERMITS                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): GATTIS                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
03/11/13      (H)      READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                          
03/11/13      (H)      RES                                                                                                      
04/10/13      (H)      RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                                
04/10/13      (H)      Heard & Held                                                                                             
04/10/13      (H)      MINUTE(RES)                                                                                              
02/19/14      (H)      RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                                
02/19/14      (H)      Heard & Held                                                                                             
02/19/14      (H)      MINUTE(RES)                                                                                              
02/24/14      (H)      RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                                
02/24/14      (H)      Moved   CSHB    161(RES)   Out    of                                                                     
                       Committee                                                                                                
02/24/14      (H)      MINUTE(RES)                                                                                              
02/26/14      (H)      RES RPT CS(RES) 5DP                                                                                      
02/26/14      (H)      DP:   JOHNSON,     OLSON,    SEATON,                                                                     
                       SADDLER, FEIGE                                                                                           
03/03/14      (H)      TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                       
03/03/14      (H)      VERSION: CSHB 161(RES)                                                                                   
03/05/14      (S)      READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                          
03/05/14      (S)      RES                                                                                                      
03/21/14      (S)      RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAD HUTCHISON                                                                                                                  
Staff to Senator John Coghill                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on SB 160 for the                                                                               
sponsor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CLARK COX, Natural Resource Manager                                                                                             
Division of Mining, Land and Water                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained SB 160.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS MAISCH, State Forester and Director                                                                                       
Division of Forestry                                                                                                            
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 28.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
WAYNE NICHOLS, Professional Forester representing                                                                               
himself                                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 28.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
NICK STEEN, Ruffed Grouse Society                                                                                               
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 28.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ERIN MCLARNEN, representing "the recreational users of                                                                          
Alaska"                                                                                                                         
Willow, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 28.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RICK ROGERS, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Resource Development Council (RDC)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 28.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ANDY ROGERS                                                                                                                     
Alaska Chamber of Commerce                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported SB 28.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN GATTIS                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HB 161.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DOUG VINCENT-LANG, Director                                                                                                     
Division of Wildlife Conservation                                                                                               
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on HB 161 and was                                                                               
available for questions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FORMER-SENATOR CON BUNDE, representing himself                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported HB 161.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN JUDY, Alaska State Liaison                                                                                                
National Rifle Association (NRA)                                                                                                
Sacramento, California                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported HB 161.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ELAINA SPRAKER, Clinic Director                                                                                                 
Kenai Peninsula Women on Target/Teens on Target                                                                                 
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported HB 161.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MIKE CRAWFORD, President                                                                                                        
Alaska    Kenai    Peninsula    Chapter,     Safari    Club                                                                     
International                                                                                                                   
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported HB 161.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MIKE TINKER                                                                                                                     
Alaska Wildlife Conservation Association                                                                                        
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported HB 161.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DANA FALLUCCA-LINGOFELT, member, Board of Directors                                                                             
Outdoor Heritage Foundation                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported HB 161.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   CATHY   GIESSEL   called   the   Senate  Resources                                                                    
Standing   Committee  meeting   to  order   at  3:30   p.m.                                                                     
Present  at  the   call  to  order  were  Senators   Dyson,                                                                     
French, Bishop, and Chair Giessel.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      SB 160-DNR: HUNTING GUIDES, CONCESSION PROGRAM                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:31:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   GIESSEL   announced   SB   160   to   be   up   for                                                                     
consideration.   She  said  the   committee  had   received                                                                     
letters both of support and opposition to it.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:31:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAD  HUTCHISON,  staff  to Senator  John  Coghill,  Alaska                                                                     
State  Legislature,   Juneau,   Alaska,  said  there   were                                                                     
compelling  reasons  to  pass SB  160.  It's good  for  the                                                                     
resource  and  the  resident  hunters  and,  to  a  certain                                                                     
extent,  it  stops BLM  and  the  federal  government  from                                                                     
filling the void if the state does not act.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:32:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CLARK   COX,  Natural   Resource   Manager,   Division   of                                                                     
Mining,  Land and Water,  Department  of Natural Resources                                                                      
(DNR),  Anchorage,  Alaska,   said  he  had  been  involved                                                                     
with this  program  since 2007  and that  issuing land  use                                                                     
and  commercial   recreation   permits  is  one  of   those                                                                     
commercial  use activities  that  they authorize  and  it's                                                                     
their primary interaction with the big game guides.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. COX  said they had  heard a lot  about how both  boards                                                                     
regulate  the industry  and  it's  important  to note  that                                                                     
they  both support  development  of  the  guide concession                                                                      
program  (GCP). He  said the Board  of Game  can deal  with                                                                     
conflicts  and  issues  as they  relate  to  wildlife,  but                                                                     
it's  difficult  for them  to  deal  with land  use  issues                                                                     
and  overcrowding.  It can  affect  the number  of  hunters                                                                     
in   the   field   by   reducing   the   overall    hunting                                                                     
opportunity  but not  by regulating  spacial distribution;                                                                      
only the DNR can do that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  said  the  Big  Game  Commercial  Services   Board  has                                                                     
rules  in  statute  limiting  and  regulating   guides  and                                                                     
where  they register,  and  any changes  would  have to  be                                                                     
done through legislative action.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:34:19 PM                                                                                                                    
He  touched  on  a  couple  of  the primary   comments  the                                                                     
committee  had heard, the  first being  about how new  guys                                                                     
can  get  into   the  industry.   He  explained  that   the                                                                     
primary  difference   between  the  full  and  the  limited                                                                     
concessions  is  the  number of  employees  that  each  one                                                                     
could  employ.  The full  concession  holders  are  allowed                                                                     
to  employ up  to  six assistant  guides  and  the  limited                                                                     
are  allowed  to employ  only  one  assistant  guide.  This                                                                     
allows  for  the  selected   full  concession   holders  to                                                                     
offer  more  hunts,  employ  more   staff,  and  operate  a                                                                     
larger  business   while  the  limited  concessioners   run                                                                     
fewer hunts  and smaller  operations,  and this gives  them                                                                     
a chance  to be able  to compete for  a full concession  at                                                                     
some  point  in the  future  by gaining  experience  in  an                                                                     
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:35:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. COX  said another  common  comment they  had heard  was                                                                     
about   transferability,   and  they   do  understand   the                                                                     
desire to  be able to  sell and transfer  these areas,  but                                                                     
the Owsichek  decision  made it  very clear  that that  was                                                                     
one  of  the  primary  faults  of  the  prior  system.  The                                                                     
common  use clause in  the Alaska Constitution  also  makes                                                                     
that "a pretty steep hurdle to climb."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
They  heard  a  lot  about  how a  GCP  will  or  will  not                                                                     
benefit  the Alaska  resident  hunter.  It is  designed  to                                                                     
benefit  hunters  by  reducing   the  number  of  big  game                                                                     
guides  in the  more  controversial  areas,  thus  reducing                                                                     
conflicts  in the  field,  and increasing  the  quality  of                                                                     
the  hunting   opportunity   and  wildlife   conservation.                                                                      
Additionally,  the  whole concession  concept  is based  on                                                                     
the  competitive  nature  of the  applicants  who  will  be                                                                     
scored  on a number  of factors,  including  their  history                                                                     
of user  conflicts  and their  strategies  to avoid  future                                                                     
conflicts.  The GCP  seeks to  award concessions  to  those                                                                     
guides  with cleaner  histories  in  the field  and in  the                                                                     
court room.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:36:36 PM                                                                                                                    
He  said  they  also  heard  that  problems   are  only  in                                                                     
certain  "hot" areas,  and they  agree.  They talked  about                                                                     
addressing  this by staggering  areas  so as to not  impact                                                                     
the  whole state  at  once,  but then  they  realized  that                                                                     
just  dealing  with  small  areas  would  push  unselected                                                                      
guides  into  other  outlying  areas  and  create  problems                                                                     
there.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
They have  heard from  the very outset  about transporters                                                                      
and   believe   this   group   can   be  addressed    after                                                                     
conducting further research and evaluation with them.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
They  heard that  implementing  this program  would  reduce                                                                     
the  number  of   guides  by  50  or  60  percent,   so  he                                                                     
provided  a  graph   showing  the  number  of   guides  who                                                                     
actually   ran  a  hunt   and  the   number  of  available                                                                      
opportunities  there would  be should  this program  exist.                                                                     
In addition,  44 million  acres of private  land in  Alaska                                                                     
is available to use.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COX  said  they   also  heard  that  the  application                                                                      
process  was simply a  test for guides  to hire someone  to                                                                     
prepare  a  fancy  application  to  win an  area,  but  DNR                                                                     
wants  the operation  plan  and  commitments  made  therein                                                                     
to be  incorporated  into the  authorization  that will  be                                                                     
evaluated  annually  to  assure  that  concession   holders                                                                     
are  operating   consistent   with  the  terms  they   were                                                                     
granted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
In closing,  Mr. Cox  said, they heard  from many  parties,                                                                     
both  in  support  and not,  that  problems  exist  in  the                                                                     
guiding  industry and  in the field  and that those  issues                                                                     
need   to  be   addressed.  This   program   would  be   an                                                                     
additional  tool for DNR,  the Board  of Game, and  the Big                                                                     
Game  Commercial   Services   Board  to   use  to   address                                                                     
industry  issues.   The  mission  of  the  program   is  to                                                                     
encourage     land    stewardship,     support     wildlife                                                                     
conservation,  and to  promote a healthy  guiding  industry                                                                     
for  the benefit  of the  people of  Alaska.  He said  this                                                                     
is their  first crack  at developing  a  program like  this                                                                     
and they are remaining flexible to make changes to it.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL said she was waiting for a quorum and set                                                                         
SB 160 aside.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 3:40:20 to 3:40:27 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:40:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE joined the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  moved SB  160,  version  28-LS1399\A,  from                                                                     
committee   to  the  next   committee   of  referral   with                                                                     
attached  fiscal  notes  and  individual  recommendations.                                                                      
There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:40:59 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 3:40 to 3:42 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       SB  28-SUSITNA STATE FOREST; SALE OF TIMBER                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced SB 28 to be up for                                                                                      
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:43:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL moved Amendment 1.                                                                                                
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                       AMENDMENT 1                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE            BY SENATOR GIESSEL                                                                        
     TO: SB 28                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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         Insert "The transportation objective for                                                                               
      the Susitna State Forest is to provide access                                                                             
      for timber management and multiple use within                                                                             
     the Susitna State Forest."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR FRENCH objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  explained  that this  amendment adds  intent                                                                     
language  on  page  2  of  the  bill  and removes   certain                                                                     
parcels  from   the  Susitna   State  Forest.  The   intent                                                                     
language   states  a  transportation   objective   for  the                                                                     
forest  to  provide  access for  multiple  use  and  timber                                                                     
management,  and then  some segments  are removed from  the                                                                     
State Forest.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  MAISCH, State  Forester  and Director,  Division  of                                                                     
Forestry,   Department    of  Natural   Resources    (DNR),                                                                     
Anchorage,    Alaska,   explained    that   the    proposed                                                                     
amendment  is based  on the  public process  they had  been                                                                     
going   through   for  this   bill,   comments   by   local                                                                     
government   and  others   about  concerns   with   needing                                                                     
additional  lands   close  to  communities  for  potential                                                                      
expansion  of them, particularly  near  the communities  of                                                                     
the  City  of Houston,  Wasilla,   and up  along  the  east                                                                     
corridor  of  the  Parks  Highway.  This  amendment   would                                                                     
delete parcels on the east side strip that run North-                                                                           
South,  a relatively  narrow  corridor; this  would  garner                                                                     
additional support for this legislation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The  other  item  concerned  access  to  the  State  Forest                                                                     
similar  to the intent  that already  exists in the  Tanana                                                                     
Valley  State  Forest that  says  all  parts of  the  State                                                                     
Forests  over  time will  by  accessed  with a  mixture  of                                                                     
all-season and winter roads.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH   asked  him   to  summarize  the   general                                                                     
geographic changes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:45:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MAISCH  said he  could tell  him the  block names,  but                                                                     
not exactly  which lines  they were on  the map. There  are                                                                     
four  blocks;  the  first  is  the  northern  parcels  (the                                                                     
Talkeetna  block on their  map); the  descriptions  address                                                                     
the Kashwitna  parcel,  the Willard  Cash  parcel, and  the                                                                     
Houston parcel.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BISHOP asked if  parcels on  the east side  of the                                                                     
highway  were being  stricken  and the State  Forest  would                                                                     
be on the west side.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH  answered  yes. The  stricken  lands  still  be                                                                     
managed  for  forestry,  because  they  are  classified  in                                                                     
the  Area  Plan as  forestry  land.  He  said it  would  be                                                                     
easier  to change the  potential uses  of those lands  when                                                                     
the Area Plans are updated.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH withdrew his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL, finding  no  further  objection, announced                                                                      
that Amendment  1 was  adopted. She  invited Mr. Maisch  to                                                                     
go through the rest of the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MAISCH  continued   to explain   that  there  are  two                                                                     
parts  to  the bill;  one  is  the  State  Forest  portion,                                                                     
which he  would speak  to first, and  then the part  of the                                                                     
bill,  which   specifically  addresses   his  timber   sale                                                                     
authorities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  said  the  State   of  Alaska  owns  and  manages   9.5                                                                     
million  acres in the  Matanuska Valley  and that two  Area                                                                     
Plans   -  the   Matanuska/Susitna   Area   Plan  and   the                                                                     
Southeast  Susitna  Area Plan  - currently  are identified                                                                      
for  that  area  and  have  both  recently  been   updated.                                                                     
Both  are high-level  allocations  for different  types  of                                                                     
uses  for  state-owned  land;  State  Forest,  recreation,                                                                      
habitat,   and   disposal   are   some   of   the   general                                                                     
classifications.   This   proposal   originally  suggested                                                                      
663,000  acres  and  33 parcels,  but  with  the amendment                                                                      
the acreage drops down to 688,000 acres and 20 parcels.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  said  the primary  purpose  of  the  State  Forest,  by                                                                     
statute,  is  for  timber  management   that  allows  other                                                                     
multiple  uses of the  forest to continue.  One of  the key                                                                     
concerns  they   heard  in  various  public  meetings   and                                                                     
other  discussions  with local  governments  was that  they                                                                     
wanted  to be assured  that the  same type  and same  scale                                                                     
of  use would  continue  to  occur on  the  State  Forests,                                                                     
and that  is the  case. In fact,  they feel  over time,  as                                                                     
additional  access  is  developed  that  many uses  of  the                                                                     
State  Forest will  benefit,  particularly  from a  hunting                                                                     
and habitat  management  standpoint,  which  is where  many                                                                     
of those comments came from.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:49:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MAISCH  recapped  that the  primary use  for the  State                                                                     
Forest  is  timber  management  consistent   with  multiple                                                                     
use  and sustained  yield  principles.  It is  governed  by                                                                     
the  Alaska  Forest  Resources  and  Practices  Act,  which                                                                     
also  affects  state, municipal,  and  private  lands,  and                                                                     
which is  primarily designed  to protect  fish habitat  and                                                                     
water   quality.   So,   mandatory   stream   buffers   are                                                                     
required  in harvest units  with a large  number of  rivers                                                                     
already  having   the  recreation   corridors  along   them                                                                     
(that  in the Valley  are a  quarter mile  on each side  of                                                                     
the river).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He said  the Forest Management  Plan  for the State  Forest                                                                     
must  be  completed  within  three   years  of  the  Forest                                                                     
being  established   and  that  is  has  a very  extensive                                                                      
public  process, including  establishment  of the  Citizens                                                                     
Advisory  Committee   to  give  advice  on   uses  and  any                                                                     
potential   conflicts  that  could   develop.  The   Tanana                                                                     
Forest  already  has an  advisory  committee,  but not  the                                                                     
Southeast  State   Forest  or  the  Haines  State   Forest,                                                                     
because  they are  much smaller  in size,  and in the  case                                                                     
of  the Southeast  State  Forest,  very  remote,  so  there                                                                     
aren't a lot of different users using those lands.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH said  it was  left up  to their  discretion  as                                                                     
to whether  to establish  that Citizen  Advisory Committee                                                                      
or not;  it would  have 12  members that  would mirror  the                                                                     
Board  of  Forestry  that  has  9  members,  but  it  would                                                                     
represent  a range of  constituents,  users - business  and                                                                     
local  government  in  the  Valley  -  and  they  would  be                                                                     
advisory and appointed by the Division of Forestry.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  said   the   Management   Plan  will   address   future                                                                     
transportation  planning,  timber  sales, and  kind of  all                                                                     
the  standard  things  one would  like  to  see in  a  plan                                                                     
about how they intend to manage that property.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:51:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   MAISCH  said   there   had  been   extensive   public                                                                     
outreach  consisting  of  community  meetings  as  part  of                                                                     
the  Area   Planning   process  where   the  State   Forest                                                                     
concept  was  discussed  starting  in  2009  and  six  open                                                                     
houses  across  the  Valley  in  that  timeframe,  in  2012                                                                     
there  were  12  public  meetings  in  communities  up  and                                                                     
down  the Valley,  and  10  meetings  in 2013  including  2                                                                     
webinars  which  tried to  reach the  remote  areas of  the                                                                     
borough  where  people  couldn't  easily  travel  into  the                                                                     
community  meetings. It  was so successful  that they  plan                                                                     
to  continue  those.  They  also  had  11  different   news                                                                     
articles,  radio stories,  or  other topics  in the  Valley                                                                     
in  publications  statewide  on  the  topic  of  the  State                                                                     
Forest.  So, it has been  well-vetted  and discussed  among                                                                     
the  different   interest   groups.   They  also   recently                                                                     
received  support  from the  Matanuska Susitna  Borough  at                                                                     
their Tuesday  Assembly  meeting with  a vote of 6-1  for a                                                                     
resolution   in  support  of  the  State  Forest   concept.                                                                     
Numerous  other letters  in the record  do the same  thing.                                                                     
He paused for questions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:52:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE  asked what  the  primary  species is  in                                                                     
that area.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAISCH  replied spruce  and white  birch for hard  wood                                                                     
and   black  cotton   wood   and   cotton  wood,   and   an                                                                     
occasional tamarack and aspen.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  asked what  the  state practice  is  for                                                                     
reforestation after harvest.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH  explained  that  three  different  regions  in                                                                     
the  state  are  under  the  Forest  Practices  Act,  which                                                                     
requires  reforestation  of  harvested  lands  within  five                                                                     
years;  that's  in  a  "free-to-grow"   state,  a  seedling                                                                     
that is  essentially  growing aggressively  and vigorously                                                                      
and not overtopped by vegetation and grass.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Finding  no further  questions  on  the forest  portion  of                                                                     
the plan,  she  invited him  to go  on to  the timber  sale                                                                     
provisions and authorities.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MAISCH  said  some  background  on  the  department's                                                                      
authorities  would  help put  into  context  what they  are                                                                     
trying  to do with  this change.  Currently,  the  Division                                                                     
of  Forestry has  five  different  statutes  that allow  it                                                                     
to  sell timber  using  different  methodologies  in  Title                                                                     
38.05.115   and   .117.   The   sale   method   used   most                                                                     
frequently  statewide is  the competitive  sale process  in                                                                     
.120; those  are sealed  bid or oral  outcry sales  offered                                                                     
in  their different  area  offices.  They  are competitive                                                                      
with the sale going to the highest price.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A  couple  of  other  sales  methods  encourage  local  and                                                                     
domestic  manufacturing;   in  Southeast   Alaska  if  they                                                                     
offered  all the  timber  sales by  the .120  process,  all                                                                     
the  logs  would  go  to  the  round  log  export   market,                                                                     
because  it is a much  more valuable  market against  which                                                                     
the  domestic   market   cannot  compete.   So  they   have                                                                     
developed   other   alternatives    that   still   have   a                                                                     
competitive  piece on  the front end,  but then allow  them                                                                     
to  negotiate the  sale.  Mr. Maisch  explained  that  they                                                                     
tried  to do  just round-log  export  restrictions  in  the                                                                     
late 70s  and that case  found its way  all the way  to the                                                                     
U.S.  Supreme  Court  where  the  state  lost  it,  because                                                                     
they  were   trying  to  regulate   inter-state  commerce,                                                                      
which  a  state   cannot  do.  That  is  where   the  other                                                                     
authorities   have   sprung    from:   creative   ways   to                                                                     
encourage  domestic  processing,  create jobs  and more  of                                                                     
an economy in the local communities.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The first  one is  ".115 authority,"  which  are sales  for                                                                     
less  than 500,000  board  feet. Those  typically  go to  a                                                                     
small  saw mill  or  firewood  operator.  The next  one  is                                                                     
the ".117  authority,"  which  is for salvage  sales  after                                                                     
a  fire, insect  and  disease,  and wind  throw.  It is  an                                                                     
expedited  process to  get that wood  to market as  quickly                                                                     
as  possible  to  salvage  some of  its  value.  The  ".118                                                                     
sales"  are the  large negotiated  sales  for 20-25  years,                                                                     
the  topic  of  this  legislation.  And  the  ".123  sale,"                                                                     
which  is  value-added  sales  for  up  to  10  years,  are                                                                     
meant  to provide  raw materials  to mills  and facilities                                                                      
that add  a high level  of value to  the product, like  the                                                                     
pellet  mill  in  Fairbanks.   A  list  of  materials  that                                                                     
qualify  for  high-value  production  can  be found  in  11                                                                     
AAC 71.055.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH said  that  their ".118  authority"  has  three                                                                     
criteria  that  have to  be in  place  to use:  the  census                                                                     
district  that  the  proposal  is in  has  to have  a  high                                                                     
level of local unemployment, it has to have an under-                                                                           
utilized  annual allowable  cut in the  timber supply,  and                                                                     
it has  to have  under-utilized  manufacturing  capability                                                                      
at the  facility  that would  use  it. All  three of  those                                                                     
are  hard  to  align   especially  the  high  unemployment                                                                      
piece.  This bill  proposes to  strike all  three of  those                                                                     
clauses,  and  that would  make  it easier  to  use and  be                                                                     
consistent across the state.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
One  other  thing   SB  28  does  is  that  currently   the                                                                     
language  in that  statute just  refers to  timber, and  to                                                                     
make  that more  inclusive and  clear they  added,  "timber                                                                     
and fiber" (meaning all types of wood products).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  commented  that  Mr.  Maisch  did  a  good                                                                     
overview and really knows his timber.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH  asked  if  this  is  like  former  Senator                                                                     
Linda Menard's proposed legislation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH   answered  yes;   the  forestry  proposal   is                                                                     
essentially  the same,  but it  didn't have  the change  to                                                                     
the timber piece (.118).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:58:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL opened public testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:59:03 PM                                                                                                                    
WAYNE  NICHOLS, Professional   Forester and  member,  Board                                                                     
of   Forestry   and   Society   of   American   Foresters,                                                                      
representing  himself,  Juneau,  Alaska, supported  SB  28.                                                                     
He  said  compared  to  other  states,   the  Alaska  State                                                                     
Forest  has  a lot  of  benefits,  the  primary  one  being                                                                     
that it makes good management of it possible by well-                                                                           
qualified  professional  people  of  which  Mr.  Maisch  is                                                                     
"an  outstanding  example."   His  staff  also  have  other                                                                     
disciplines  that  relate  to it.  Designation  as a  State                                                                     
Forest enables investments like planting a tree, a 100-                                                                         
year  investment,  instead  of the  land being  subject  to                                                                     
being  changed for  some  other use.  It is  also  valuable                                                                     
in that  better roads  and bridges  can  be built.  Pruning                                                                     
and thinning are also long-term investments.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON thanked him for his service.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:03:20 PM                                                                                                                    
NICK  STEEN,  Ruffed   Grouse  Society,  Wasilla,   Alaska,                                                                     
supported   SB   28.  He   said   the  president   of   the                                                                     
Southcentral  Chapter  of the  Ruffed Grouse  Society,  Dr.                                                                     
Michael  Fuller,  recently  contacted  several  members  of                                                                     
the  legislature   expressing   opposition  to  SB   28  as                                                                     
written.   He   explained   that   they   enthusiastically                                                                      
support  the  concept  of  a  State  Forest,   however  the                                                                     
accelerated   development  in  the  Alaska   Bowl  and  the                                                                     
Matanuska  Susitna  Valley is  transforming  the character                                                                      
of  the  area  into   an  urban  sprawl.  A  forest   would                                                                     
preserve   public  lands   and  resources   for  effective                                                                      
forest  management  that  promotes   economic  use  of  the                                                                     
forest  resources, enhancement  of wildlife  habitat  close                                                                     
to  major  population   areas,  and  maintenance   a  large                                                                     
block  of land  for  public recreation.  Their  concern  is                                                                     
the  fractured  nature  of  the proposed   boundaries,  and                                                                     
Dr.  Fuller asked  him  to express  his and  the Chapter's                                                                      
conditional support of SB 28.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Their  Chapter  has been  working  during  the development                                                                      
of the  Susitna  Matanuska Area  Plan (SMAP)  to establish                                                                      
a State  Forest  on all  unencumbered  state  land west  of                                                                     
the  Susitna  River  between   the  Beluga  River  and  the                                                                     
south  boundary  of the  Denali  State and  National  Parks                                                                     
draining  into  the Susitna  River.  They oppose  the  SMAP                                                                     
as developed since it has designated a series of non-                                                                           
contiguous   lands  for  forest   management  interspersed                                                                      
with  land  designated   as  mining  or  for  disposal   as                                                                     
recreation   and  agriculture.   This   hampers  effective                                                                      
forest  management   and  restricts  public  and   multiple                                                                     
use.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SB 28  perpetuates this  approach by  identifying only  the                                                                     
land designated  for  forest management  by  the SMAP  as a                                                                     
Susitna  Forest.   It  does  not  address  the   issues  of                                                                     
access   for   effective    forest   management,    uniform                                                                     
regulations    for   total   area   management,    boundary                                                                     
identification  for  recreational   use, and  the  loss  of                                                                     
public  access for recreational  purposes  by transferring                                                                      
land   to    private   ownership.    However,   there    is                                                                     
insufficient   time  in  their  mind  in  the  legislative                                                                      
session  to make  the major  changes  needed  to fix  these                                                                     
issues.  Therefore,  they  feel  that  getting  the  Forest                                                                     
established  is  critical  and would  like to  support  the                                                                     
current  bill,  but  ask  their  help  in  making  it  more                                                                     
effective    by   considering    modifications    to    the                                                                     
boundaries  in future  legislation  and directing  the  DNR                                                                     
to suspend  implementation  of any land  disposal  programs                                                                     
in  the  SMAP  west  of  the  Susitna  River   until  their                                                                     
concerns are addressed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH joined the committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
ERIN  MCLARNEN, member,  Board  of Forestry,  representing                                                                      
"the  recreational   users  of  Alaska",  Willow,   Alaska,                                                                     
supported  SB  28.   She  also  personally  supported   the                                                                     
Susitna  State Forest.  Not only would  it create jobs  and                                                                     
stimulate  the economy  over time, but  it would guarantee                                                                      
all users a place to recreate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MCLARNEN  said  she is  a  17-year long-distance   dog                                                                     
musher  and   frequently  uses   state  forest  lands   for                                                                     
training  her  dogs.  These  are  her  favorite   runs  for                                                                     
their  access and  the roads  created during  harvest,  and                                                                     
she wanted more users to have those same opportunities.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She  said  the local  Willow  dog  mushers  have  formed  a                                                                     
strong  relationship  with  the Division  of  Forestry  and                                                                     
DNR,  as  well  as the  logging  operators.   In September                                                                      
they  all  come  together  to  talk  about  their   harvest                                                                     
plans  for  roads  and  then  the  mushers  overlap   their                                                                     
trails  onto that.  A lot of  the operators  will  actually                                                                     
reroute  their trails  during harvest  times so that  those                                                                     
training  grounds   won't  be  lost,  actually  suspending                                                                      
harvest  for two  days for  a 100-mile  kids'  dog race  on                                                                     
their trail system.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:09:04 PM                                                                                                                    
RICK  ROGERS,  Executive  Director,  Resource  Development                                                                      
Council  (RDC),  Anchorage,  Alaska,   said he  is  also  a                                                                     
certified  forester  that  had performed  forestry  on  and                                                                     
off  throughout  Alaska since  1981  and supported  SB  28.                                                                     
It  represents  the  state  committing   a long-term   land                                                                     
base   to    promote   long-term    sustainable    forestry                                                                     
practices.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  said  LNG  is  speed   dating  compared  to  forestry,                                                                      
because  forestry  is an  extremely long-term  commitment.                                                                      
Forest  rotations in Alaska  can span  from 60 to  100-plus                                                                     
years.  So, if  they  are going  to do  the  job right  and                                                                     
encourage  long-term  forest  productivity   and encourage                                                                      
the  private   sector  to  invest  in  what   it  takes  to                                                                     
harvest  and  process  that timber  to  generate  jobs  and                                                                     
create  wealth   in  our  communities,  then   we  need  to                                                                     
commit  the   land  base  so   they  know  that   state  is                                                                     
committed  and that  the  land is  going to  be available.                                                                      
The  lands  in  question  are  already  being  managed  for                                                                     
forestry, and this bill makes it official.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROGERS also  noted  there were  over 3  million  acres                                                                     
of other  legislatively-designated  lands  for things  like                                                                     
parks, refuges and public use areas throughout the Mat-                                                                         
Su area  and a designated  working State  Forest is  needed                                                                     
to  balance   that   out.  He   said  this   isn't  a   new                                                                     
experiment  in Alaska  that already has  the Tanana  Valley                                                                     
State   Forest,   the  Haines   State   Forest,   and   the                                                                     
Southeast  State  Forest,  and  they are  all  good  models                                                                     
from which to build one in the Susitna Valley.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He noted  that Mr.  Steen encouraged  some  future look  at                                                                     
boundaries  and that  historically  the Tanana  Forest  has                                                                     
had at  least one, and  maybe several,  modifications  over                                                                     
its  history.  So nothing  keeps  them  from  improving  on                                                                     
the  boundaries   that  are  presented  today.   He  hadn't                                                                     
looked  at  the  amendments  in  detail,   but  would  give                                                                     
deference  to the committee  and DNR  for working with  the                                                                     
local  community.  If they  can  gain support  by  reducing                                                                     
some  of those  areas,  perhaps  they could  be considered                                                                      
in the  future for adding  to the State  Forest at  a later                                                                     
date.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROGERS summarized that this bill represents a long-                                                                         
term  commitment   to  good  forest   management   and  the                                                                     
private  sector is  likely to  respond favorably  to  that.                                                                     
It   is  consistent   with   the  state's   constitutional                                                                      
mandate  to manage  these  resources  sustainably  for  the                                                                     
long term benefit of Alaskans.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:13:34 PM                                                                                                                    
ANDY  ROGERS,  Alaska   Chamber  of  Commerce,  Anchorage,                                                                      
Alaska,  supported  SB  28.  He  liked  the  100-plus  year                                                                     
commitment  and  thought  it was  an  opportunity  for  the                                                                     
state  to  be  a good  steward  of  its  resources  and  to                                                                     
ensure  long-term  economic stability  with  the potential                                                                      
for growth.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:16:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL,   finding  no   further  comments,   closed                                                                     
public  testimony  and moved  conceptual  Amendment 2.  She                                                                     
explained  that  this  management  plan  would  not  be  as                                                                     
well  written  as the  one  for the  Tanana  State  Forest,                                                                     
but  adding  the  following  language  from  that  plan  to                                                                     
page 32, line 2, would resolved that:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     (e) The  wildlife  management  objective   of the                                                                          
     Susitna  State   Forest  is  the   production  of                                                                          
     wildlife  for a  high  level of  sustained  yield                                                                          
     for  human   use  through   habitat   improvement                                                                          
     techniques  to the  extent  consistent  with  the                                                                          
     primary  purpose  of  a  state  forest  under  AS                                                                          
     41.17.20.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   GIESSEL  explained   that  this   amendment   would                                                                     
maximize  the area  for wildlife  management  and not  just                                                                     
for timber management.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH   objected  for  discussion  purposes   and                                                                     
said he  preferred  to see the  amendment  in the bill  and                                                                     
to have enough time for consideration of it.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  responded  that  it  goes  to  the  Finance                                                                     
Committee next.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH withdrew his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MAISCH said  he  supported  the conceptual  amendment                                                                      
and that  its language  is currently  in  AS 41.17.400  (e)                                                                     
for the Tanana Valley State Forest.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BISHOP said  that  should go  a long  way to  make                                                                     
the Ruffed  Grouse  people, who  would hunt  grouse  there,                                                                     
a lot happier.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH  said  he  hoped  so,  too;  they  are  serious                                                                     
about  habitat   and  forest  management  that   really  go                                                                     
hand-in-hand.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL announced that Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAISCH  summarized  that  this is  a  statement  about                                                                     
long-term  commitment   and a  sustainable   resource  that                                                                     
can be  managed to help  Alaska's communities.  It's  about                                                                     
the  "the triple  bottom  line"  of society,  environment,                                                                      
and  the  economy.   When  done  right  it  can   get  good                                                                     
results for the people of the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:21:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DYSON moved to report SB 28, version 28-                                                                                
GS1741\A,   as  amended,   from  committee   to  the   next                                                                     
committee  of  referral  with  attached  fiscal  notes  and                                                                     
individual  recommendations.   There  were  no  objections                                                                      
and CSSB  28(RES)  passed from  the Senate Resources Standing                                                                   
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:21:50 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 4:21 to 4:23 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       HB 161-AUCTIONS FOR BIG GAME HARVEST PERMITS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   GIESSEL   announced   HB   161   to   be   up   for                                                                     
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:23:43 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  GATTIS,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                                      
Juneau,  Alaska,   sponsor  of   HB  161,  said  the   bill                                                                     
updates  the  governor's   license  program.   This  is  an                                                                     
economic  process for  the Alaska  Department  of Fish  and                                                                     
Game  (ADF&G)  to generate  funds  for  management  of  the                                                                     
state's  wildlife  resources.  The  department  may  donate                                                                     
permits    to    non-profit    organizations    that    are                                                                     
incorporated  in Alaska  to hold big  game permit  auctions                                                                     
or  raffles.  The  sale  of  relatively   few  permits  can                                                                     
generate   a   large   amount   of  money   to   fund   the                                                                     
department's conservation and protection efforts.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
She  explained  that the  governor's  license  program  was                                                                     
created  in  1997 and  since  2009 it  has  generated  over                                                                     
$450,000  to the  Fish and Game  Fund.  The department  can                                                                     
issue  up to 40  permits under  HB 161;  statute currently                                                                      
allows   up  to  19   permits.  Putting   the  numbers   in                                                                     
perspective,   the  department   is   issuing  over   4,000                                                                     
permits   for   big   game   species   for   2014/15,   and                                                                     
historically  around  half  of the  available  permits  are                                                                     
issued  and of  that half,  46 percent  are  utilized in  a                                                                     
hunt.  This  means that  around  25  percent of  the  total                                                                     
permits issued were actually used.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB 161  has two sections  that list  permits available  for                                                                     
donation  for  raffle  or auction  just  like  the  current                                                                     
statute  does:   section  1  gives   100  percent   of  the                                                                     
proceeds  to  a  non-profit  under  the  stipulation   that                                                                     
they  use the  generated  funds  to  promote  education  in                                                                     
outdoor  traditions. This  section permits  up to 4  Etolin                                                                     
Island  elk, 1 bison,  and 1  Dall sheep.  The elk and  the                                                                     
bison  are  in statute  already;   the sheep  permit  is  1                                                                     
additional under this bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section  2 of the  bill has  permits for  2 Dall sheep  and                                                                     
two  bison.   These  are   already  in   statute.   HB  161                                                                     
increases  the  number of  permits  from  2 to  4 for  musk                                                                     
ox,  brown  or grizzly  bear,  moose,  caribou,  and  wolf,                                                                     
and adds  4 permits  each for  black bear,  goat, and  elk.                                                                     
It also increases the percentage of revenues a non-                                                                             
profit  can keep from  10 percent  to 30  percent. This  is                                                                     
necessary  to  incentivize   groups  to  participate.   The                                                                     
entirety  of the  money  that goes  to the  non-profit  has                                                                     
to  be  spent   on  outdoor  education   and  conservation                                                                      
projects in a manner approved by the department.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTIS  explained that  at 10 percent  some                                                                     
of  the  raffling  groups  were  leaving   permits  on  the                                                                     
table  and said  that there  was a  certain  cost to  doing                                                                     
business  and  if they  could  get 30  percent  to do  what                                                                     
they  would like  to do  under  the department  rules  that                                                                     
would  make more  sense.  As the  program is  written  now,                                                                     
the  group retains  10  percent of  the proceeds  and  they                                                                     
can spend  it any  way they want  so long  as it isn't  for                                                                     
political  gain,  which means  that  it can't  be used  for                                                                     
referendums,  initiatives,  or  to  give to  any candidate                                                                      
to run.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
With HB  161, a  group actually  retains  0 percent of  the                                                                     
proceeds  and  it is  required  to spend  the  entirety  on                                                                     
department-approved   programs.  Permits  occupied  by  the                                                                     
governor's  license  program  are  taken  out of  the  draw                                                                     
hunt.  The program  does  not take  permits  directly  from                                                                     
Alaskan  hunters.  She  explained   that  when  a  resident                                                                     
hunter  enters  into  the  drawing   for  most  hunts  that                                                                     
person  has  the same  chance  of  winning  a permit  as  a                                                                     
non-resident  hunter.  Further,  she said,  this bill  does                                                                     
not  allow  for  out-of-season  special   hunts  in  closed                                                                     
areas  and it  does not  allow  for helicopters  and  other                                                                     
advantages   to  be  used  in   tracking  and  hunting   or                                                                     
transporting big game. If a permit is donated to a non-                                                                         
profit  under this program  and the  permit does not  sell,                                                                     
it is  reentered into  the drawing  pool  or, if it's  late                                                                     
in the  season,  sold over  the  counter. These  sales  are                                                                     
mainly to resident hunters.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GATTIS  said   she  and  her  staff   have                                                                     
worked  closely  with the  department  as well  as a  large                                                                     
number  of sporting groups  to create  the bill to  benefit                                                                     
hunters  and to ensure  that the department  has continued                                                                      
funding  to manage  this valuable  resource  well into  the                                                                     
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked if her staff had anything to add.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:29:47 PM                                                                                                                    
REID  HARRIS,  Staff   to  Representative  Gattis,   Alaska                                                                     
State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, answered no.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:29:56 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUG   VINCENT-LANG,   Director,   Division   of   Wildlife                                                                     
Conservation,   Department  of  Natural  Resources   (DNR),                                                                     
explained  that  HB  161  is  an  attempt   to  manage  the                                                                     
governor's   tag   program   in  a   more   efficient   and                                                                     
effective  manner. Basically,  they realized  that if  they                                                                     
give  a  greater  percentage  of  these  program   receipts                                                                     
from the  governor's tag  program to  a private non-profit                                                                      
to keep,  the  hope is  that a rising  tide  will lift  all                                                                     
ships   including    the   contribution    back    to   the                                                                     
department.   But  most   importantly,   it  forms   really                                                                     
foundational    partnerships    with    the   conservation                                                                      
community  in  that they  get  to keep  30 percent  of  the                                                                     
proceeds,  which  is  focused  on  providing  conservation                                                                      
education  programs  that ensures  a future  foundation  of                                                                     
hunters  and fishers  across  the state.  They  have to  do                                                                     
those  projects   in  partnership  with  the  department's                                                                      
approval.   Overall,  this   program   would  benefit   the                                                                     
department  and  the  conservation  community  by  ensuring                                                                     
there   is  a  steady   source  of   funding  for   outdoor                                                                     
education and conservation programs.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:31:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  if  helicopters  are  going  to  be                                                                     
allowed for harvest of sheep.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VINCNENT-LANG   answered  no;  the  intention   is  to                                                                     
basically  put the  same conditions  as the  Board of  Game                                                                     
puts on these hunts for these species in those areas.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:24 PM                                                                                                                    
FORMER-SENATOR    CON    BUNDE,   representing     himself,                                                                     
Anchorage,  Alaska, supported  HB 161.  He related that  he                                                                     
was the  original author  of the governor's  TAGS bill.  He                                                                     
had   the   good   fortune   of   knowing    some   hunting                                                                     
"philanthropists"    who  return   substantial   financial                                                                      
support  to  the   sport,  and  the  TAGS  program   was  a                                                                     
vehicle  to  do that.  It  met  some  resistance,  but  has                                                                     
been  generally  accepted   as  a  good  idea  and  it  has                                                                     
worked   very  well   in  other   states.   But  like   all                                                                     
legislation,  after some  trial and error  and time  it can                                                                     
stand some tweaking and he supported that and HB 161.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He said  the Alaska  Department  of Fish  and Game  (ADF&G)                                                                     
and its  management of  the state's  hunting opportunities                                                                      
are  supported   by  license   fees   and  various   taxes.                                                                     
Expanding   TAGS  in  this  manner   will  provide   needed                                                                     
support  for the ADF&G.  He was personally  aware that  the                                                                     
original proposal to give 10 percent to these non-                                                                              
profits  that promote  outdoor education  was not  adequate                                                                     
to  meet their  cost  of doing  business  and  have  enough                                                                     
left  over  to  have   any  significant  impact   on  their                                                                     
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:36:28 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIAN   JUDY,  Alaska   State   Liaison,   National   Rifle                                                                     
Association  (NRA), Sacramento,  California,  supported  HB                                                                     
161. It  is a  win-win for  Alaska non-profits  and  Alaska                                                                     
sportsmen  and  women.  It  increases  from  19 to  42  the                                                                     
number  of permits  available  for  auction,  which  should                                                                     
generate  more  money for  department  and  non-profits  to                                                                     
use   for    education    in   outdoor    traditions    and                                                                     
conservation,   and   wildlife   protection   programs   in                                                                     
partnership   with   the  department.   This   bill   won't                                                                     
benefit  NRA,   but  it  could   potentially  benefit   the                                                                     
Friends  of the NRA non-profit  program.  Examples  of some                                                                     
of the  programs  that have  received their  money in  past                                                                     
are   the  Used   Shotgun   League,  Small   Game   Hunting                                                                     
Clinics,  Scholastic  Clay  Target  Program, the  Women  on                                                                     
Target  Program,  the  Youth  Education   Summit,  and  the                                                                     
Becoming an Outdoors Woman Program.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:38:45 PM                                                                                                                    
ELAINA  SPRAKER,  Clinic Director,  Kenai  Peninsula  Women                                                                     
on Target/Teens  on  Target,  Kenai, Alaska,  supported  HB                                                                     
161. She  said their  program started  about six years  ago                                                                     
when  they took  8-10 teenage  girls  and trained  them  in                                                                     
firearms  which included  shotgun, pistol  and rifle.  From                                                                     
there,   the  mothers   wanted   to  also   learn   firearm                                                                     
training  and that  is what  inspired the  Women on  Target                                                                     
Program,  which  is in  its fourth  year. She  related  the                                                                     
successes  of  clinic  activities.  She  supported  HB  161                                                                     
because  it will  make  these programs  doable.  Women  are                                                                     
charged  $35 to  join these  clinics  and they  will  shoot                                                                     
up to $900 worth of ammo per clinic.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  thanked  her  for all  the  program  did                                                                     
for his 18 year old.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:41:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE   CRAWFORD,   President,   Alaska   Kenai   Peninsula                                                                      
Chapter  of Safari Club  International,  Soldotna,  Alaska,                                                                     
supported  HB 161.  He said of  the Club  has 200  chapters                                                                     
worldwide  and  two  of them  are  in  Alaska.  He  related                                                                     
that   these   two   are   both   award-winning   and   are                                                                     
considered  leaders. He  said the national  part of  Safari                                                                     
Club International  spent  over $1 million  in last  year's                                                                     
ADF&G  projects   that  included   Kenai  moose  research,                                                                      
chronic  wasting disease  on  Kodiak Island,  Kodiak  Brown                                                                     
Bear studies,  and the  reintroduction  of the wood  bison.                                                                     
Some  of the  things they  have  supported  are the  Alaska                                                                     
Outdoor  Heritage  Foundation,   National  Archery  in  the                                                                     
Schools  Program,   the  Women  on  Target   and  Teens  on                                                                     
Target,  and other youth-shooting  sports.  They also  give                                                                     
a  $4,000  college  scholarship  each  year.  They  have  a                                                                     
very  successful and  popular  women's and  kid's  pheasant                                                                     
hunt  every fall  where  sportsmanship  and  gun safety  is                                                                     
taught.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRAWFORD  said  they  are good  at  raising  funds  to                                                                     
fulfill  their mission  and understand  the need for  funds                                                                     
for  conservation  of  our wildlife.  They  are  not  being                                                                     
greedy  but  want  to  further  conservation   of  wildlife                                                                     
working with ADF&G on their projects.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRAWFORD  said that  recently  a  Tok sheep  tag  sold                                                                     
for  over $160,000;  these  funds will  go a  long way  for                                                                     
ADF&G.  This bill will  not eliminate  other organizations                                                                      
that now qualify to get these tags.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:44:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE  TINKER, Alaska  Wildlife  Conservation  Association,                                                                      
Fairbanks,  Alaska,  supported  HB  161. He  related  their                                                                     
fish  and wildlife  conservation  issues  saying that  some                                                                     
of  their products  resulted  in  the passage  of  Alaska's                                                                     
intensive  management  law  that got  Alaskans  out of  the                                                                     
competition   business   for  the  last   moose  and   into                                                                     
producing   more   wildlife  for   their   use,  and   most                                                                     
recently  a clarification   on the  use of  the referendum                                                                      
process  for allocation  where they hope  to get the  state                                                                     
out of wolf and anti-hunting type of referendums.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. TINKER  said the  Association also  fights some  of the                                                                     
battles   that    government   cannot   fight    from   the                                                                     
standpoint  of  anti-hunters   who use  Alaska  management                                                                      
principles  to  raise  money  for  their  various   causes.                                                                     
They  do  not  have   any  problem  with  the   concept  of                                                                     
raising  more  money  for  the ADF&G  or  for  spending  in                                                                     
some of the ways this proposal focuses on.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Attracting  people   by  offering  them  more  money  is  a                                                                     
pipedream,  he  said, and  money  earmarked  for education                                                                      
programs  can't   be  matched  by  the  federal  Robertson                                                                      
Pitman  Funds.  So,  that  might  not  be  getting  to  the                                                                     
desired  intent  of  putting  money  where  the department                                                                      
would like  it to go  next. A consistent  approach  to fund                                                                     
raising  for the department  needs to  be worked on  by the                                                                     
department, the boards, the public and the legislature.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TINKER   said  he   hears  the   legislature   voicing                                                                     
support  for  additional  funds  for the  ADF&G,  but  they                                                                     
are  a little  concerned  when  the  department  says  this                                                                     
program  won't  cost  anything.  Putting  these agreements                                                                      
together  will have administrative   and management  costs.                                                                     
So,  the cost  of HB  161  is not  zero. He  urged  caution                                                                     
and having at least another hearing for more input.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
In  the  sectional  analysis,  Mr.  Tinker  said  number  4                                                                     
says  "the  donation  program  will  be  healthier  as  its                                                                     
appeal   has  been   broadened,"   but  he   doubted   that                                                                     
offering 42 permits versus 19 would broaden appeal.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:51:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  for  his  written  comments  to  be                                                                     
forwarded to the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TINKER  said  he  would  be  glad  to  prepare   those                                                                     
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:52:02 PM                                                                                                                    
DANA  FALLUCCA-LINGOFELT,   member,  Board  of  Directors,                                                                      
Outdoor    Heritage    Foundation,    Anchorage,    Alaska,                                                                     
supported  HB   161.  It  is  an  important  component   in                                                                     
funding  outdoor  education  opportunities   for Alaskans.                                                                      
Funds  generated  from  the  governor's  license   proceeds                                                                     
will directly  provide  opportunities  to more Alaskans  to                                                                     
become  educated  ethical  users  of  the  state's  natural                                                                     
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She had  participated  in the Becoming  an Outdoor  Woman's                                                                     
(BOW)   workshop,    hunter   information   and    training                                                                     
clinics,  and  had  earned  her  hunter  education   mother                                                                     
loader  certifications  through  the  ADF&G. She  said  the                                                                     
department's   program   sponsored  in   conjunction   with                                                                     
organizations  such  as the  Ruffed Grouse  Society,  Rocky                                                                     
Mountain    Elk    Foundation,     Alaska    Bow    Hunters                                                                     
Association,   Safari  Club,  National  Rifle  Association                                                                      
(NRA),   and   the  Outdoor    Heritage   Foundation   have                                                                     
provided   ladies   liker  her   the  knowledge   and   the                                                                     
confidence  to spot  and stalk  big game,  fly fish in  the                                                                     
best rivers  on Earth,  shoot proficiently  with a  variety                                                                     
of  firearms and  archery  equipment,  survive  out in  the                                                                     
Alaskan  wilderness,  the skills  to field  dress and  care                                                                     
for  her  own  animals,   and  how  to  cook  it  up  on  a                                                                     
campfire built by her.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
In  addition to  developing  a deep  appreciation  for  the                                                                     
science  and biologists  that keep  it all  in balance,  as                                                                     
a  result of  these  programs  she said  she  had become  a                                                                     
purchaser  of  fishing,  trapping,   and hunting   licenses                                                                     
and  tags, all  of  which  contribute  to revenues  to  the                                                                     
ADF&G.  She had  personally  contributed  over  $47,000  to                                                                     
the Alaskan  economy since  taking her  first BOW  workshop                                                                     
in 2004.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Countless  women have  told her  that these  programs  have                                                                     
changed  their   lives.  Many   use  their  education   and                                                                     
skills  to teach  their  own sons  and daughters  the  joys                                                                     
of  outdoor  pursuits.  She  volunteers  to  teach  outdoor                                                                     
skills    at    the   workshops.    Alaskan    educational                                                                      
opportunities   supported   by   the   Governor's   license                                                                     
proceeds  would  include  outdoor use  camps  in Fairbanks                                                                      
and  Anchorage,   the  National  Archery  in  the   Schools                                                                     
Program   statewide,  Becoming   an   Outdoor  Woman,   and                                                                     
fishing  clinics for  ladies and  families,  small and  big                                                                     
game   hunting  clinics,   and  additional   certification                                                                      
programs   to   address   Alaskan   hunters'   needs.   She                                                                     
believes   that   outdoor   education   produces    caring,                                                                     
conservationists   and   responsible   users   of   Alaskan                                                                     
resources  ensuring everyone's  enjoyment  for generations                                                                      
to come.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:55:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  stated  that  she  would  hold  HB  161  in                                                                     
committee and keep public testimony open.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:55:53 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 4:55 to 4:56 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:57:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL adjourned the Senate Resources Standing                                                                           
Committee meeting at 4:57 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 161 Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 vs R.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Sectional vs R.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Explanation of Changes U to R.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Fiscal Note (RES).pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Permit Count.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Non-resident Hunter Graph.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 ADF&G Drawing Permits.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Auction Proceeds.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 P-R Match schematic.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter DTA 20140224.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter JerryHall 20130409.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter LOHCAC 20130403.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter SCI (President) 20140217.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter SCI 20140129.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter StephenStidham 20140220.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter RobertFuller 20140316.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter ABHA 20140224.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter WayneHeimer 20140221.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter KenRadach 20140301.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter KathleenKennedy 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter MikeCrawford 20140301.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter GaryGearhart 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter KenTaylor 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Letter MikeTinker 20140321.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Testimony KyleJones 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter MaryBishop 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letters WayneHeimer 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter AndrewAudap 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter and Dispatch Article DavidEliseTwyman 20140320.PDF SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter BrianLynch 20140321.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter EdCzech 20140324.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Opp Letter NoahZogas 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
HB 161 Supp Letter SandieGilliland 20140321.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 161
SB 160 Supp Letter SCI Alaska Chapter 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Opp Letter PhilByrd 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter GameManagementUnit23 20140227.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
Sb 160 Supp Letter JoeLetarte 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Letter LeifWilson 20140312.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Opp Letter VickiFaeo 20140309.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter HenryTiffany 20140311.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter RobertMumford 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter ThorStacey 20140303.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Opp Letter TimBooch 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Letter WayneKubat 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter NWAB 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter DonaldQuarberg 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter NateTurner 20140320.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Opp Letter WillieDvorak 20140321.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 160 Supp Letter PeterProbasco 20140207.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 28 Amendment A.1.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 vs A.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Transmittal Letter.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Sectional Analysis.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Briefing Paper.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 DNR Fiscal Note.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Proposed Susitna Forest Map.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Supp Letter AFA 20140221.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Supp Letter Alaska Chamber Ltr 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Supp Letter RDC 20140319.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Supp Letter SAF 20130222.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Proposed Susitna State Forest Management Plan.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 MSB RS 14-030.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Amendment Explanation.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Letter NickSteen 20140321.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
SB 28 Opp Letter BarbaraMiller 20140321.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
SB 28
HB 77 Opposition Documents with Index 03-19-2014 Group #10.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Opposition Documents with Index 03-19-2014 Group #11.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Opposition Documents with Index 03-20-2014 Group #12.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Support Documents with Index 03-18-2014 Group #6.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Support Documents with Index 03-18-2014 Group #7.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Support Documents with Index 03-20-2014 Group #8.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Support Documents with Index 03-20-2014 Group #9.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Support Documents with Index 03-20-2014 Group #10.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
HB 77 Support Documents with Index 03-20-2014 Group #11.pdf SRES 3/21/2014 3:30:00 PM
HB 77
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