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01:32:13 PM Start
01:33:07 PM Presentation: University of Anchorage Alaska (uaa) Workforce Solutions in Alaska
02:10:04 PM SB99
02:43:26 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: UAA Workforce Solutions in Alaska TELECONFERENCED
UAA Provost Dr. Denise Runge
Dr. Debbie Craig, Dean - UAA College of Health
Ray Weber, Dean - UAA Community & Technical
College
Dr. Cheryl Siemers, Director - Kenai Peninsula
College (KPC)
*+ SB 99 CPA AS PRIVATE PROFESSIONAL CONSERVATORS TELECONFERENCED
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**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                         March 17, 2025                                                                                         
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Kelly Merrick, Vice Chair                                                                                               
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Robert Yundt                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: UNIVERSITY OF ANCHORAGE ALASKA (UAA) WORKFORCE                                                                    
SOLUTIONS IN ALASKA                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 99                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to private professional conservators; and                                                                      
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  99                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CPA AS PRIVATE PROFESSIONAL CONSERVATORS                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) MYERS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/14/25       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/14/25       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/17/25       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DENISE RUNGE, Provost                                                                                                           
University of Anchorage Alaska (UAA)                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented slides on UAA Workforce                                                                      
Solutions in Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RAY WEBER, Dean                                                                                                                 
Community and Technical College                                                                                                 
University of Alaska Alaska (UAA)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented slides on UAA Workforce                                                                      
Solutions in Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE CRAIG, Dean                                                                                                              
College of Health                                                                                                               
University of Alaska Anchorage (UAA)                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented slides on UAA Workforce                                                                      
Solutions in Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL SIEMER, Director                                                                                                         
Kenai Peninsula College                                                                                                         
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented slides on UAA Workforce                                                                      
Solutions in Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ROBERT MYERS, District Q                                                                                                
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 99.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ASHLYN BROOKS, Staff                                                                                                            
Senator Robert Myers                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided the sectional analysis for SB 99.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GORDON WILLIAMS, Attorney                                                                                                       
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified by invitation on SB 99.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
VIVIAN STIVER, representing self                                                                                                
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified by invitation on SB 99.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
(DCCED)                                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding SB 99.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN called  the Senate  Labor  and Commerce  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting  to order at 1:32  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Merrick,  Gray-Jackson,  Dunbar, Yundt  and                                                               
Chair Bjorkman.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 ^PRESENTATION: UNIVERSITY OF ANCHORAGE ALASKA (UAA) WORKFORCE                                                                  
                      SOLUTIONS IN ALASKA                                                                                       
  PRESENTATION: UNIVERSITY OF ANCHORAGE ALASKA (UAA) WORKFORCE                                                              
                      SOLUTIONS IN ALASKA                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:33:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  announced a presentation  from the  University of                                                               
Alaska Anchorage: Workforce Solutions in Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:33:22 PM                                                                                                                    
DENISE  RUNGE, Provost,  University  of  Alaska Anchorage  (UAA),                                                               
Anchorage,   Alaska,  co-presented   slides  on   UAA:  Workforce                                                               
Solutions  in  Alaska and  moved  to  slide 2,  Alaska's  Largest                                                               
Workforce Provider:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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        • UAA Creates Opportunity through Education                                                                             
        • Serving Alaska 70 years -- comprehensive open-                                                                        
          access university                                                                                                     
        • Enroll +11,000 students                                                                                               
        • Prepare students for careers through +180                                                                             
         programs from certificates to doctoral degrees                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUNGE said  UAA has 5 campuses located  in Anchorage, Valdez,                                                               
Homer, Soldotna and Kodiak.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  RUNGE moved  to slide  3, Dual  Mission Serving  Alaska, and                                                               
stated  that  UAA  is  Alaska's  only  dual  mission  university,                                                               
meaning  it combines  the open  access and  workforce focus  of a                                                               
community  college with  the advanced  programs of  a university.                                                               
This  allows  UAA to  quickly  adapt  to industry  and  community                                                               
needs, offering  everything from short-term certificates  to full                                                               
degrees.  She said  with over  35 industry  advisory boards,  UAA                                                               
works closely with employers to  ensure students are prepared for                                                               
real jobs across Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:37:40 PM                                                                                                                    
RAY WEBER,  Dean, Community and Technical  College, University of                                                               
Anchorage  Alaska (UAA),  Anchorage, Alaska,  co-presented slides                                                               
on UAA: Workforce Solutions in Alaska  and moved to slide 4, High                                                               
Demand Industries- Aviation:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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        • Alaska's largest flight school.                                                                                       
        • Specialized programs for advancing pilot training                                                                     
          and aviation management.                                                                                              
        • Strong industry and K-12 partnerships.                                                                                
        • Pilot program full capacity  graduating dozens                                                                        
          of pilots annually.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WEBER said  UAA has  partnerships with  Anchorage and  Matsu                                                               
School Districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:39:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WEBER moved to slide  5, High Demand Industries-Aviation, and                                                               
stated  that   UAA's  aviation  programs  are   running  at  full                                                               
capacity, but the  demand keeps growing. He said  the state needs                                                               
about 230  aviation maintenance  workers each  year, yet  UAA can                                                               
only train and  produce around 40 to 45. Despite  this gap, UAA's                                                               
aviation  students  have  earned national  recognition,  and  the                                                               
university is  working to expand opportunities  possibly becoming                                                               
one of  the few enhanced  training schools that  prepare students                                                               
to go straight into FAA jobs like air traffic control.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:40:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WEBER moved to slide  6, High Demand Industries-Construction,                                                               
and stated  that UAA's online construction  management program is                                                               
growing fast, helping  people advance their careers  with a focus                                                               
on  Arctic and  cold-weather emphasis.  Students take  a national                                                               
exam,  and  many go  on  to  become licensed  contractors,  often                                                               
working on major federally funded projects.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WEBER  moved to slide  7, High  Demand Industries-Automotive,                                                               
and  stated that  UAA's diesel  program  is in  high demand  with                                                               
students getting hired before they  even finish. All students get                                                               
hands-on experience  through field work and  internships. He said                                                               
the  program also  partners with  companies like  Caterpillar and                                                               
General  Motors   to  train   technicians  and   offer  industry-                                                               
recognized certifications.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:42:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WEBER moved  to slide 8, High  Demand Industries-Culinary and                                                               
stated  that  UAA has  the  state's  largest and  longest-running                                                               
culinary  arts program,  training  students in  both kitchen  and                                                               
restaurant  operations  for over  50  years.  The program  offers                                                               
Occupational  Endorsement Certificates  in  culinary and  baking,                                                               
with  hands-on experience  through  internships and  partnerships                                                               
like Covenant  House and local  restaurants. It  currently serves                                                               
about  80 students  and continues  to support  community training                                                               
needs across Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RUNGE moved to slide 9,  Alaska's Leader in AI Education, and                                                               
stated that  UAA is  leading the  way in  artificial intelligence                                                               
education, with new undergraduate  and graduate programs approved                                                               
to  prepare students  for AI-related  careers. Courses  are being                                                               
developed  at   an  increased  rate   across  many   fields  like                                                               
engineering, business,  health, and education. She  said everyone                                                               
is looking  to incorporate AI  effectively in classrooms  to help                                                               
students learn how  to use and manage AI  in real-world settings.                                                               
She said  the university  is also working  to expand  faculty and                                                               
training  to meet  growing demand,  knowing  AI will  be part  of                                                               
every industry's future.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:45:53 PM                                                                                                                    
DEBBIE CRAIG,  Dean, College of  Health, University  of Anchorage                                                               
Alaska (UAA), Anchorage, Alaska,  co-presented slides on the UAA:                                                               
Workforce Solutions  in Alaska  and moved  to slide  10, Alaska's                                                               
Flagship Health University. She stated  that UAA offers more than                                                               
50 healthcare  related programs, from short-term  certificates to                                                               
clinical  doctorates  in  fields   like  nursing,  pharmacy,  and                                                               
occupational therapy.  She said each year,  nearly 2,000 students                                                               
enroll, and  600800  graduate ready  to join  Alaska's healthcare                                                               
workforce. With  strong partnerships across the  state, including                                                               
hospitals, the Department of Health,  and an advisory council UAA                                                               
ensures  its  programs  meet   real  healthcare  needs,  offering                                                               
nursing education at 15 locations from Bethel to Juneau.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:47:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CRAIG moved  to slide 11, Growing  Alaska's Health Workforce,                                                               
and stated that  with extra funding over the past  few years, UAA                                                               
has expanded several  health and social service  programs to meet                                                               
Alaska's growing  needs. This includes  increasing the  number of                                                               
medical   students  in   partnership  with   the  University   of                                                               
Washington, nearly  doubling the master's in  social work cohort,                                                               
and adding  more spots  in dental  hygiene, radiology,  and other                                                               
health  fields. She  said UAA  also launched  Alaska's first  PhD                                                               
program in school counseling, aiming  to help address the state's                                                               
youth mental health crisis, all  supported by strong partnerships                                                               
for clinical training across the state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:50:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CRAIG  moved  to  slide   12,  Innovative  Health  Education                                                               
Partnerships:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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        • WWAMI Medical Education with University of                                                                            
          Washington                                                                                                            
        • MEDEX Physician Assistant with University of                                                                          
          Washington                                                                                                            
        • Pharmacy Doctorate with Idaho State University                                                                        
        • Speech, Language Pathology with East Carolina                                                                         
          University                                                                                                            
        • Occupational Therapy Doctorate with Creighton                                                                         
          University                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:51:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHERYL  SIEMER,  Director,  Kenai  Peninsula  College,  Soldotna,                                                               
Alaska,  co-presented  slides  on  the  University  of  Anchorage                                                               
Alaska (UAA): Workforce Solutions in  Alaska, and moved to slides                                                               
13  and 14.  She stated  that for  over 25  years, UAA  and Kenai                                                               
Peninsula College's Process Technology  program has been a leader                                                               
in workforce training,  recognized as one of the  top programs in                                                               
North America. The program has  strong industry partnerships, and                                                               
its  graduates are  actively recruited  by  major companies  like                                                               
ConocoPhillips,  ExxonMobil, and  ASRC, helping  to meet  growing                                                               
workforce needs across Alaska and beyond.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RUNGE moved to slide 15, Expanding Opportunity:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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        • Meet students where they are in life.                                                                                 
        • Stackable Credentials to Build Achievement.                                                                           
        • Credit for prior learning / apprenticeships                                                                           
        • UAA designated Military Friendly School 16 years                                                                      
          in a row.                                                                                                             
        • Providing education and services to armed forces,                                                                     
          veterans and families at JBER.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUNGE   talked  about   an  Education   Teacher  Preparation                                                               
Apprenticeship that just started.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:56:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RUNGE moved to slide 16, Pathways to Careers:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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        • College learning does not have to wait for                                                                            
          college.                                                                                                              
        • Dual-enrollment earns both high school and                                                                            
          college credit.                                                                                                       
        • ANSEP nationally recognized STEM program                                                                              
          pathway from elementary to advanced degrees since                                                                     
          1995.                                                                                                                 
        • Middle College partnerships with local school                                                                         
          districts serve thousands of students.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUNGE  said every  high  school  freshman in  Anchorage  now                                                               
visits UAA  to explore  career options  and engage  directly with                                                               
faculty through the Academies of Anchorage Pathways Program.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:57:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RUNGE moved to slide 17,  Student Success, and shared a story                                                               
of a UAA collegiate athlete  graduate, Colin Hurd that has joined                                                               
the Anchorage police force.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:58:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RUNGE moved to slide 18, UAA Results for Alaska:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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        • More than 71,000 UAA alumni worldwide.                                                                                
        • Represented   in   all    major   industries   and                                                                    
          communities.                                                                                                          
        • 29 members of 34th Alaska Legislature attended or                                                                     
          worked at UAA.                                                                                                        
        • UAA alumni more likely to stay in Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:59:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RUNGE moved to slide  19, Workforce Solutions for Alaska, and                                                               
stated  that keep  in mind  the new  term "dual  mission" as  UAA                                                               
believes  the new  term "dual  mission is  the key  to addressing                                                               
Alaska's  workforce needs.  Students  have open  access to  start                                                               
wherever  they  are  ready,   take  short-term  programs,  return                                                               
multiple  times, and  continue  learning  and growing  throughout                                                               
their careers.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:59:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN explained  that many  high school  students don't                                                               
know what  academic skills  they need  for college  because there                                                               
aren't  clear checkpoints  in the  K12   system to  keep them  on                                                               
track.  As a  result, UAA  has  had to  spend a  lot on  remedial                                                               
courses  to  help students  catch  up.  He  asked how  UAA  helps                                                               
students  understand what  will  be expected  of  them, based  on                                                               
their goals.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:01:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  RUNGE   answered  that  UAA   has  reduced  the   number  of                                                               
developmental writing  courses by finding better  ways to support                                                               
students  without  lowering  standards:  such  as  using  writing                                                               
samples instead of  just test scores and  offering extra academic                                                               
support.  These changes  show that  many  students from  Alaska's                                                               
public  schools are  more prepared  than previously  thought. She                                                               
said additionally,  pathway programs in high  schools are helping                                                               
students  connect their  interests  to future  careers early  on,                                                               
which  encourages  them to  take  more  rigorous courses  and  be                                                               
better prepared for college, no  matter what path they ultimately                                                               
choose.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:04:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked if UAA  requires all potential  students to                                                               
take an Accuplacer test.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  RUNGE responded  that UAA  no  longer has  students take  an                                                               
Accuplacer  test. UAA  and  the other  two  University of  Alaska                                                               
locations are experimenting  with a new way  of student placement                                                               
called  directed  self-placement.  She  said  students  answer  a                                                               
series of questions about their  life such as writing experiences                                                               
and  what classes  they  took  in high  school.  This helps  them                                                               
figure out what classes they would be successful at in college.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:06:08 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        SB  99-CPA AS PRIVATE PROFESSIONAL CONSERVATORS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:10:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting and announced the                                                                         
consideration of SENATE  BILL NO. 99 "An Act  relating to private                                                               
professional conservators; and providing for an effective date."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:10:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ROBERT MYERS, District Q, Alaska State Legislature,                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska, sponsor of SB 99 presented a summary of the                                                                     
following legislation:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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     The  issue we  are seeking  to address  with SB  99 was                                                                    
     originally brought  to our attention by  a constituent.                                                                    
     After  looking  into  the statutes,  we  realized  that                                                                    
     there   could  be   an  alternative   to  the   current                                                                    
     conservator  licensing process  that  would allow  more                                                                    
     people  to  become  private  professional  conservators                                                                    
     while  keeping  the  high standards  that  protect  the                                                                    
     individuals under their care.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Currently,    an   individual    seeking   a    private                                                                    
     professional   conservator   license  must   obtain   a                                                                    
     certificate   in    guardianship   from    a   national                                                                    
     organization  before  applying  for  their  conservator                                                                    
     license  from the  State  of  Alaska. The  guardianship                                                                    
     certification  is  applicable  to people  who  wish  to                                                                    
     become full  guardians, but it is  much less applicable                                                                    
     to someone who will only  be handling finances and will                                                                    
     not have  responsibility for the physical  wellbeing of                                                                    
     the  individuals under  their care.  This certification                                                                    
     is   costly   and   time  intensive,   especially   for                                                                    
     professionals who already  maintain certification for a                                                                    
     related   professional    license.   Certified   Public                                                                    
     Accountants  must  obtain  their bachelor's  degree  in                                                                    
     accounting  and complete  continuing education  credits                                                                    
     every  two years.  Since CP  As  are already  qualified                                                                    
     professionals   with    an   emphasis    on   fiduciary                                                                    
     responsibilities, they are  strong candidates for being                                                                    
     private professional conservators.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SB   99  seeks   to  create   an  alternative   to  the                                                                    
     guardianship  certification  requirement  currently  in                                                                    
     statute for  individuals who are  licensed as CP  As in                                                                    
     Alaska. Licensed  CP As  would still  have to  meet all                                                                    
     other  requirements under  the  current statutes.  This                                                                    
     would   just   remove    the   external   certification                                                                    
     requirement  for CP  As  which could  be  a barrier  to                                                                    
     individuals  becoming   licensed  private  professional                                                                    
     conservators.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     As Alaska's  population is aging,  we will  continue to                                                                    
     have increased  need for professionals who  can provide                                                                    
     financial support to this  group. Unfortunately, we are                                                                    
     already facing  a shortage of  providers who  can offer                                                                    
     care for the  needs of an aging  population. While this                                                                    
     bill will not  be enough to solve all  of these issues,                                                                    
     we hope it will be  a small step towards addressing the                                                                    
     needs of our state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:13:02 PM                                                                                                                    
ASHLYN BROOKS, Staff, Senator Robert Myers, Alaska State                                                                        
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided the sectional analysis for                                                                
SB 99:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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                SB 99 ver. A  Sectional Analysis                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: Page 1, Lines 4-14; Page 2, Lines 1-11                                                                      
     Adds previous licensing  as a CPA under AS  08.04 as an                                                                    
     alternative    to   certification    by   a    national                                                                    
     guardianship  group  in  order  to  become  a  licensed                                                                    
     conservator.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: Page 2, Lines 12-21.                                                                                        
     Conforming   language   regarding   the   issuance   of                                                                    
     temporary licenses for private professional guardians.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3: Page 2, Lines 22-28.                                                                                        
     Establishes that a temporary  license holder may submit                                                                    
     proof  of  required  guardianship  certificate  or  CPA                                                                    
     license to obtain a permanent license.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4: Page 2, Lines  29-31; and Page 3, Lines 1-5.                                                                
     Adds a new section  establishing that the Department of                                                                    
     Commerce,  Community,  and Economic  Development  shall                                                                    
     issue a  temporary license to  an individual  seeking a                                                                    
     private  professional  conservator license  who  likely                                                                    
     will become certified or licensed  within one year from                                                                    
     the date the  temporary license is issued  if they meet                                                                    
     all  other  requirements   of  a  private  professional                                                                    
     conservator license.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5: Page  3, Lines 6-31; and Page  4, Lines 1-7.                                                                
     Conforming  language stating  that failure  to maintain                                                                    
     either  a  CPA  license   or  a  national  guardianship                                                                    
     certification is grounds for disciplinary action.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6: Page 4, Line 8                                                                                              
     Establishes an immediate effective date for the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:15:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced invited testimony on SB 99.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:15:54 PM                                                                                                                    
GORDON  WILLIAMS,  Attorney,   Ketchikan,  Alaska,  testified  by                                                               
invitation   on  SB   99  and   stated   that  guardianship   and                                                               
conservatorship  proceedings are  serious  legal matters  because                                                               
they involve  taking away a  person's rights to manage  their own                                                               
money or make personal decisions  often due to illness, dementia,                                                               
or  injury, not  because of  any wrongdoing.  That's why  it's so                                                               
important  to  have  qualified, trustworthy  people  involved  in                                                               
these cases.  He said adding licensed  CPAs to the list  of those                                                               
eligible  to  serve in  these  roles  makes  sense, as  they  are                                                               
already trained,  regulated professionals with the  skills needed                                                               
to manage finances and prepare accurate reports.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:19:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked  if a CPA wants to become  a conservator now                                                               
what do  they have  to do  and how would  that change  under this                                                               
current legislation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:19:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WILLIAMS  responded  that  a  CPA can  already  serve  as  a                                                               
conservator without a license, but  to be a licensed professional                                                               
conservator, they  currently must  get certified by  the National                                                               
Guardianship  Association.   SB  99  removes  that   extra  step,                                                               
recognizing  that  CPAs  already  have the  skills  and  training                                                               
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  clarified  that  in Mr.  Williams  testimony  he                                                               
mentioned  he was  part of  a  group that  put forward  different                                                               
kinds of  legislation proposals. He  asked if that was  under the                                                               
guidance of the bar association and what does the group do.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:22:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WILLIAMS  answered that the  Association of Trust  and Estate                                                               
Professionals is  not linked  with the  bar association.  He said                                                               
the group is a state planning professional association.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  asked  that  Mr.  Williams  describe  the  legal                                                               
difference between a conservatorship and a guardianship.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:23:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WILLIAMS responded  that  a guardian  is  someone who  makes                                                               
health, welfare and safety decisions  for a person who can't make                                                               
them on their own and  a conservator makes decisions concerning a                                                               
persons money  and assets.  He said  in Alaska  there is  a third                                                               
option  called  a  full  guardianship,  who  makes  the  guardian                                                               
decisions as well as the conservator decisions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:25:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked  if SB 99 only  impacts conservatorships and                                                               
is there a separate licensing process for guardians.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:25:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WILLIAMS answered that he does not know.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:26:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS explained  that  guardians  and conservators  have                                                               
separate  licenses.  A guardian  license  covers  all aspects  of                                                               
care,  while  a conservator  license  only  applies to  financial                                                               
matters. In Alaska,  the two licensing programs  are similar, but                                                               
SB 99 aims to further distinguish between them.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:27:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WILLIAMS referenced  AS 08.26.010  that discusses  licensing                                                               
for guardians and conservators.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:28:32 PM                                                                                                                    
VIVIAN  STIVER, representing  self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified                                                               
by invitation on SB 99:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     I am  writing my letter  of support today as  a private                                                                    
     citizen   in   my   capacity  as   a   senior   housing                                                                    
     professional and not in my  capacity as a member of the                                                                    
     Alaska Commission on Aging board of directors.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I have worked  in senior housing for the  last 15 years                                                                    
     and have  witnessed just  how important  it is  for our                                                                    
     seniors to  remain as independent  as possible  as they                                                                    
     age.   Seniors   thrive    socially,   physically   and                                                                    
     emotionally when  the appropriate amount  of assistance                                                                    
     is  available for  them. Losing  independence too  soon                                                                    
     can   cause  them   to   retreat   socially  and   feel                                                                    
     discouraged because of the loss of control in areas of                                                                     
     their  lives  which  they  could  continue  to  address                                                                    
     independently.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:29:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. STIVER continued with her testimony of SB 99:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Over the years  I worked with a couple  of seniors that                                                                    
     experienced tremors  and could no longer  write checks.                                                                    
     They would hand me the check  book asking me to fill it                                                                    
     in  for  them.  This   always  makes  me  uncomfortable                                                                    
     because they  are vulnerable to "bad  actors" who could                                                                    
     alter  the   check,  get  account  numbers   and  other                                                                    
     information.  Having  a  conservator would  close  this                                                                    
     loop and  protect the  senior financially.  Also, since                                                                    
     seniors  don't  use  computers,  a  conservator  has  a                                                                    
     better  chance   of  identifying  withdrawals   from  a                                                                    
     senior's  account promptly  because  of  fraud such  as                                                                    
     "phishing."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     A  conservator   has  limited  powers  compared   to  a                                                                    
     guardian   because   the   conservator   only   manages                                                                    
     financial  affairs for  the senior  such as  collecting                                                                    
     and depositing  all income, pays  all debts  and bills,                                                                    
     secures all  assets, and  handles taxes  and insurance.                                                                    
     Making it more reasonable  for accountants to fill this                                                                    
     role  by  adjusting  the licensing  requirements,  will                                                                    
     assist  our seniors  in  remaining independent  longer,                                                                    
     keeping  their  dignity  intact while  protecting  them                                                                    
     from "bad actors."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. STIVER stated  having a licensed financial  guardian can ease                                                               
the  burden  on  families,  providing  reassurance  and  reducing                                                               
stress. Typically,  a child  that lives  close to  the individual                                                               
typically  is the  guardian and  caregiver. Separating  financial                                                               
management from  direct care  helps balance  responsibilities and                                                               
alleviates pressure on the primary caregiver.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:32:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked what someone would  need to do to  become a                                                               
conservator.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:32:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BROOKS answered that conservators  must get certified through                                                               
a national guardianship organization  by taking mostly accounting                                                               
and  technical  training  courses.  These courses  may  be  taken                                                               
online. She said  every other year the conservator  would need to                                                               
be  recertified by  taking continuing  education classes  through                                                               
the same institution.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:33:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked whether there is  training for conservators                                                               
that  have  clients  who  cant   advocate  for  themselves,  like                                                               
dementia.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:33:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  BROOKS  replied  that  to receive  a  certificate  from  the                                                               
National  Guardianship Association,  a person  must learn  one of                                                               
the  core competencies  called surrogate  decision making  and it                                                               
may be helpful in a situation with a dementia client.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:34:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  asked what  the  barriers  are  for CPAs  to  be                                                               
conservators.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:34:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  BROOKS responded  that the  main barriers  are finances  and                                                               
time.  She  said it  cost  $1800  dollars  to get  certified  and                                                               
licensed in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:35:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  added  that  SB 99  aims  to  remove  unnecessary                                                               
barriers for those who only want  to handle the financial side of                                                               
care.  Current   certification  includes  training   that  mostly                                                               
applies to guardianship. The goal is  to make it easier for those                                                               
already  trained in  financial  responsibility to  serve in  this                                                               
role.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:37:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  referenced Section 5 [AS.08.26.130]  stating that                                                               
the   department  may   take  disciplinary   action  against   an                                                               
individual.  He assumed  that there  isn't a  board handling  the                                                               
licensing  and  discipline.  He asked  what  department  oversees                                                               
disciplinary  actions  and  if applicants  wont   be  paying  the                                                               
national  certification  fee  will   they  still  pay  the  state                                                               
licensing fee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:38:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SYLVAN  ROBB, Director,  Division of  Corporations, Business  and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                               
Economic  Development (DCCED),  Anchorage,  Alaska, and  answered                                                               
that there isn't  a board for this program and  the Department of                                                               
Commerce, Community  and Economic Development (DCCED)  would take                                                               
over disciplinary and  license action. She said  the Guardian and                                                               
Conservator  Program  is  a  small  program with  as  few  as  20                                                               
licensees and won't require much money to run.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:39:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  whether DCCED  anticipated an  increase in                                                               
[disciplinary] actions,  or any risk of  inappropriate action, if                                                               
legislators  allowed  licensure without  requiring  certification                                                               
from NGA, using only a CPA license.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:39:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ROBB  replied that  becoming a  CPA requires  more education,                                                               
including a  bachelor's degree, while a  conservator license only                                                               
requires  experience handling  finance or  at least  an associate                                                               
degree  in  a related  field.  She  reiterated  this is  a  small                                                               
program,  and important  safeguards  like  background checks  and                                                               
checks with  adult protective  services will  remain in  place to                                                               
ensure  conservators   meet  the  same  high   standards  already                                                               
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:40:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked  whether it is DCCED's assertion  that SB 99                                                               
would not  pose an increased  financial risk to people  under the                                                               
care of conservators.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:41:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ROBB answered that the division is  neutral on SB 99. It is a                                                               
policy call for the legislature.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:41:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  commented that his goal  with SB 99 is  to make it                                                               
easier for  somebody to obtain  and hold on to  a conservatorship                                                               
license.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:43:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 99 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Bjorkman  adjourned the Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 2:43 p.m.                                                                                                  

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