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03/26/2013 01:30 PM LABOR & COMMERCE


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01:32:36 PM Start
01:33:19 PM Confirmation Hearings
01:53:29 PM HB26
01:58:52 PM SB65
02:05:21 PM SB4
02:19:57 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearing of Governor's Appointments TELECONFERENCED
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 26 EXTEND BOARD OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTANCY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 26 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 65 RETIREMENT PLANS; ROTH IRAS; PROBATE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 65(L&C) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 4 MILITARY TRAINING CREDIT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                         March 26, 2013                                                                                         
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mike Dunleavy, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Peter Micciche, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                            
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
     Alaska State Board of Public Accountancy                                                                               
          Craig Chapman                                                                                                         
          Donovan Rulien II                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Alcoholic Beverage Control Board                                                                                       
          Robert (Bobby) Evans                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers, and                                                             
     Land Surveyors                                                                                                         
          Eric Eriksen                                                                                                          
          John Kerr                                                                                                             
          Jeffrey Koonce                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Barbers and Hairdressers                                                                                      
          Michael Bolivar                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     Board of Chiropractic Examiners                                                                                        
          Dr. Edward Barrington                                                                                                 
          Dr. Daniel Holt                                                                                                       
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Board of Dental Examiners                                                                                              
          Robyn Chaney                                                                                                          
          Dr. Mary Anne Navitsky                                                                                                
          Dr. Steven Scheller                                                                                                   
          Gail Walden                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council                                                                          
          Mark Saldi                                                                                                            
          Donald Stiles                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                          
          Gary Bader                                                                                                            
          Daniel Repasky                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Marital and Family Therapy                                                                                    
          Linda King                                                                                                            
          Kennith McCarty                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     State Medical Board                                                                                                    
          Kevin Luppen                                                                                                          
          Kathleen (Casey) Millar                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Certified Direct-Entry Midwives                                                                               
          Sarah Taygan                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Nursing                                                                                                       
          Hannah Espera                                                                                                         
          Thomas Hendrix                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Occupational Safety and Health Review Board                                                                            
          Thomas Trosvig                                                                                                        
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Examiners in Optometry                                                                                        
          Dr. Grant Humphreys                                                                                                   
          Immanuel Lewis                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Pharmacy                                                                                                      
          John Cotter                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     State Physical Therapy and Occupational Therapy Board                                                                  
          Dr. Darin Bell                                                                                                        
          Ruth Kostik                                                                                                           
          Valerie Phelps                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Professional Counselors                                                                                       
          Anne Marie Brainerd                                                                                                   
          Debra Hamilton                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Psychologist and Psychological Associate Examiners                                                            
          Dr. Kristi Fuller                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers                                                                              
          James Picard                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Real Estate Commission                                                                                                 
          Eric Bushnell                                                                                                         
          Nancy Davis                                                                                                           
          Stacy Risner                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Regulatory Commission of Alaska                                                                                        
          Norman Rokeberg                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                         
          Zachary Paulson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                          
          DeeDee Jonrowe                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Workers' Compensation Board                                                                                     
          Stacy Allen                                                                                                           
          Bradley Austin                                                                                                        
          Pamela Cline                                                                                                          
          Jace Digel                                                                                                            
          Sarah Lefebvre                                                                                                        
          Amy Steele                                                                                                            
          Mark Talbert                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                                               
          David Richards                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 26                                                                                                               
"An Act  extending the  termination date of  the Board  of Public                                                               
Accountancy; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 26 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 65                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to property  exemptions for  retirement plans,                                                               
individual  retirement amending  Rule 64,  Alaska Rules  of Civil                                                               
Procedure, and  Rule 301(a), Alaska  Rules of accounts,  and Roth                                                               
IRAs;  relating  to  transfers of  individual  retirement  plans;                                                               
relating  to  Evidence."  the rights  of  judgment  creditors  of                                                               
members of  limited liability companies  and partners  of limited                                                               
liability  partnerships; relating  to the  Uniform Probate  Code,                                                               
including  pleadings, orders,  liability, and  notices under  the                                                               
Uniform Probate  Code and  the Alaska  Principal and  Income Act,                                                               
the  appointment of  trust property,  the Alaska  Uniform Prudent                                                               
Investor Act, co-trustees, trust  protectors, and trust advisors;                                                               
relating to the Alaska Principal  and Income Act; relating to the                                                               
Alaska  Uniform   Transfers  to  Minors  Act;   relating  to  the                                                               
disposition of  human remains;  relating to  the tax  on insurers                                                               
for life insurance policies; relating  to insurable interests for                                                               
certain   insurance  policies;   relating   to  restrictions   on                                                               
transfers   of  trust   interests;   relating  to   discretionary                                                               
interests  in  irrevocable  trusts;  relating  to  the  community                                                               
property of married persons; and                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSB 65(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 4                                                                                                               
"An Act  relating to applying  military education,  training, and                                                               
service   credit   to    occupational   licensing   and   certain                                                               
postsecondary  education  and employment  training  requirements;                                                               
providing  for a  temporary  occupational  license for  qualified                                                               
military service members; and providing for an effective date."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 26                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND BOARD OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTANCY                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HAWKER, THOMPSON                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
01/16/13       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/13                                                                                

01/16/13 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS

01/16/13 (H) L&C, FIN

01/28/13 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124

01/28/13 (H) Moved Out of Committee

01/28/13 (H) MINUTE(L&C)

01/30/13 (H) L&C RPT 7DP

01/30/13 (H) DP: CHENAULT, HERRON, REINBOLD, SADDLER, MILLETT, JOSEPHSON, OLSON 02/12/13 (H) FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519 02/12/13 (H) Moved Out of Committee 02/12/13 (H) MINUTE(FIN) 02/13/13 (H) FIN RPT 8DP 1NR 1AM 02/13/13 (H) DP: NEUMAN, COSTELLO, EDGMON, HOLMES, MUNOZ, THOMPSON, T.WILSON, STOLTZE 02/13/13 (H) NR: KAWASAKI 02/13/13 (H) AM: GARA 02/15/13 (H) TRANSMITTED TO (S) 02/15/13 (H) VERSION: HB 26 02/19/13 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS 02/19/13 (S) L&C, FIN 02/28/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) 02/28/13 (S) -- Meeting Postponed to 3/19/13 -- 03/19/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) 03/19/13 (S) -- MEETING CANCELED -- 03/21/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) 03/21/13 (S) Heard & Held 03/21/13 (S) MINUTE(L&C) 03/26/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) BILL: SB 65 SHORT TITLE: RETIREMENT PLANS; ROTH IRAS; PROBATE SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COGHILL 02/27/13 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS 02/27/13 (S) L&C, JUD 03/21/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) 03/21/13 (S) Heard & Held 03/21/13 (S) MINUTE(L&C) 03/26/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) BILL: SB 4 SHORT TITLE: MILITARY TRAINING CREDIT SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WIELECHOWSKI

01/16/13 (S) PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/13

01/16/13 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS

01/16/13 (S) STA, L&C, FIN 02/12/13 (S) STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205 02/12/13 (S) Moved CSSB 4(STA) Out of Committee 02/12/13 (S) MINUTE(STA) 02/13/13 (S) STA RPT CS 3DP 1NR SAME TITLE 02/13/13 (S) DP: DYSON, WIELECHOWSKI, GIESSEL 02/13/13 (S) NR: COGHILL 02/28/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) 02/28/13 (S) -- Meeting Postponed to 3/19/13 -- 03/19/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) 03/19/13 (S) -- MEETING CANCELED -- 03/26/13 (S) L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg) WITNESS REGISTER ROBERT EVANS, Appointee Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) Board Nome, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Provided information regarding his confirmation hearing. NORMAN ROKEBERG, Appointee Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA) Anchorage, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Provided information regarding his confirmation hearing. CECILE ELLIOTT, Staff Representative Mike Hawker Alaska State Legislature Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Offered to answer questions related to HB 26 on behalf of the sponsor. DON HABEGER, Director Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions related to HB 26. CHAD HUTCHISON, Staff Senator John Coghill Alaska State Legislature Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Explained version N of SB 65 on behalf of the sponsor. DAVID SHAFTEL, Attorney Shaftel Law Offices Anchorage, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Described changes in version N of SB 65. KENDRA KLOSTER, Staff Senator Bill Wielechowski Alaska State Legislature Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Provided information related to SB 4 on behalf of the sponsor. MARC SAN SOUCI, Northwest Regional Liaison U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) Tacoma, Washington POSITION STATEMENT: Provided supporting information related to SB 4. ACTION NARRATIVE 1:32:36 PM CHAIR MIKE DUNLEAVY called the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting to order at 1:32 p.m. Present at the call to order were Senators Micciche, Ellis, and Chair Dunleavy. ^Confirmation Hearings Confirmation Hearings 1:33:19 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY announced that the first order of business would be confirmation hearings. He noted that two of the appointees wanted to testify. 1:34:13 PM At ease 1:34:28 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY began to read the list of appointees: Alaska State Board of Public Accountancy Craig Chapman - Soldotna, AK Donovan Rulien II - Anchorage, AK Alcoholic Beverage Control Board Robert (Bobby) Evans - Nome He noted Mr. Evans wanted to testify. ROBERT EVANS, Appointee, Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) Board, introduced himself. SENATOR ELLIS asked Mr. Evans what his goals would be on the ABC Board and his ideas on protecting the publics' interest. 1:36:28 PM MR. EVANS stated that in 2009 he retired from the Department of Corrections after 21 years of service. He described his work history and experience with drug and alcohol abuse issues. He related his experience that about 60 percent of the people who went to jail and those that were remanded were either alcohol or drug related. He discussed prevention strategies. SENATOR MICCICHE thanked Mr. Evans for serving on the ABC Board. 1:41:30 PM SENATOR ELLIS voiced appreciation for Mr. Evans' work and the perspective he brings. He expressed interest in hearing more about the specific role the ABC Board could play in substance abuse issues. He also asked how to balance the interest of a community impacted by out of control addictions with the private property rights of an owner of a liquor license or bar. MR. EVANS expressed the belief that liquor stores should abide by the rules and be accountable. He said he has seen a lot of crime and abuse of alcohol in Nome and businesses must be held accountable. SENATOR ELLIS stated support for the confirmation of Mr. Evans in the hope and belief that he would support the following of rules. 1:46:24 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY continued to read the nominees for the following boards: State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers, and Land Surveyors Eric Eriksen - Juneau, AK John Kerr - Anchorage, AK Jeffrey Koonce - Anchorage, AK Board of Barbers and Hairdressers Michael Bolivar - Anchorage, AK Board of Chiropractic Examiners Dr. Edward Barrington - Anchorage, AK Dr. Daniel Holt - Juneau, AK Board of Dental Examiners Robyn Chaney - Dillingham, AK Dr. Mary Anne Navitsky - Sitka, AK Dr. Steven Scheller - Fairbanks, AK Gail Walden - Wasilla, AK Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council Mark Saldi - Skagway, AK Donald Stiles - Nome, AK Alaska Labor Relations Agency Gary Bader - Anchorage, AK Daniel Repasky - Anchorage, AK Board of Marital and Family Therapy Linda King - Anchorage, AK Kennith McCarty - Eagle River, AK State Medical Board Kevin Luppen - Wasilla, AK Kathleen (Casey) Millar - Anchorage, AK Board of Certified Direct-Entry Midwives Sarah Taygan - Chugiak, AK Board of Nursing Hannah Espera - Anchorage, AK Thomas Hendrix - Eagle River, AK Occupational Safety and Health Review Board Thomas Trosvig - Kodiak, AK Board of Examiners in Optometry Dr. Grant Humphreys - Anchorage, AK Immanuel Lewis - Anchorage, AK Board of Pharmacy John Cotter - Fairbanks, AK State Physical Therapy and Occupational Therapy Board Dr. Darin Bell - Seward, AK Ruth Kostik - Juneau, AK Valerie Phelps - Anchorage, AK Board of Professional Counselors Anne Marie Brainerd - Fairbanks, AK Debra Hamilton - Soldotna, AK Board of Psychologist and Psychological Associate Examiners Dr. Kristi Fuller - Anchorage, AK Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers James Picard - Anchorage, AK Real Estate Commission Eric Bushnell - Wasilla, AK Nancy Davis - Sitka, AK Stacy Risner - Fairbanks, AK Regulatory Commission of Alaska Norman Rokeberg - Anchorage, AK He noted the arrival of Senator Olson. 1:48:44 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY asked Mr. Rokeberg if he wanted to testify. SENATOR ELLIS thanked Mr. Rokeberg for his willingness to serve. He requested his guiding philosophy and goals for the commission. NORMAN ROKEBERG, Appointee, Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA), said his primary goal was to contribute through his experience in both the private and public sectors and his conduct and reputation as a lifelong Alaskan. He related that the purpose of regulation is to align the private and public utility sectors with the public interest, and that would be his on-going guide. 1:51:13 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY continued to read the list of appointees. Board of Social Work Examiners, AK Zachary Paulson - Palmer, AK Board of Veterinary Examiners DeeDee Jonrowe - Willow, AK Alaska Workers' Compensation Board Stacy Allen - Palmer, AK Bradley Austin - Auke Bay, AK Pamela Cline - Anchorage, AK Jace Digel - Anchorage, AK Sarah Lefebvre - Fairbanks, AK Amy Steele - Anchorage, AK Mark Talbert - Wasilla, AK Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission David Richards - Eagle River, AK SENATOR MICCICHE moved to forward the foregoing names of the appointees to the full body for consideration. He issued the reminder that this motion does not reflect intent by any of the members to vote for or against the confirmation of the individuals during any further session. CHAIR DUNLEAVY announced that without objection, the names would be forwarded to the full body for consideration. 1:52:19 PM At ease HB 26-EXTEND BOARD OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTANCY 1:53:29 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY announced the consideration of HB 26, "An Act extending the termination date of the Board of Public Accountancy and providing for an effective date." He noted this was the second hearing of the bill. CECILE ELLIOTT, Staff, Representative Mike Hawker, sponsor of HB 26, offered to answer questions related to HB 26. SENATOR MICCICHE asked if the fiscal note reflects the same annual costs as it would if it were a three-year extension. MS. ELLIOT explained that the costs of the board are covered by licensing fees, which can fluctuate depending on the number of investigations done. She deferred further explanation to Mr. Habeger. DON HABEGER, Director, Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing, Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development (DCCED), Juneau, Alaska, introduced himself. SENATOR MICCICHE restated the question. MR. HABEGER agreed that the estimated costs were the same each year. He added that the department has the ability to set fees to recoup costs as they fluctuate. Labor costs, for example, may increase. The fiscal note was determined by taking an average, based on the last two years of expenses. 1:56:04 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY closed public testimony. 1:56:39 PM SENATOR MICCICHE moved to report HB 26, labeled 28-LS0154\A, from committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note. CHAIR DUNLEAVY announced that without objection HB 26 moved from the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee Standing Committee. 1:56:57 PM At ease SB 65-RETIREMENT PLANS; ROTH IRAS; PROBATE 1:58:52 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY reconvened the meeting and announced the consideration of SB 65, a bill sponsored by Senator Coghill which deals with retirement plans, Roth IRAs and probate. He said this was the second hearing and his intention was to move the bill from committee. He requested a motion to adopt the committee substitute (CS). SENATOR MICCICHE moved to adopt the CS for SB 65, labeled 28- LS0473\N, as the working document. CHAIR DUNLEAVY objected for discussion purposes. 1:59:35 PM CHAD HUTCHISON, Staff, Senator John Coghill, sponsor, explained that the CS eliminates the previous Section 38. DAVID SHAFTEL, Attorney, Shaftel Law Offices, Anchorage, Alaska, described the changes in version N. He explained that upon review of the companion House version of the bill, it was determined that Section 38 was unnecessary. One other change, a typographical error in the original bill, was corrected. 2:01:25 PM SENATOR MICCICHE asked if the entire insurable interest section was removed. MR. SHAFTEL replied that the original SB 65 added the phrase "or immediately after the contract was made," to AS 21.42.020(a) but upon review it was decided that it was unnecessary. CHAIR DUNLEAVY withdrew his objection and version N was before the committee. SENATOR MICCICHE asked if the bill was referred to the Judiciary Committee. CHAIR DUNLEAVY said yes. Finding no further questions or comments, he solicited a motion. SENATOR MICCICHE moved to report CS for SB 65, labeled 28- LS0473\N, from committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal notes. CHAIR DUNLEAVY announced that without objection CSSB 65(L&C) moved from Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee. 2:03:37 PM At ease SB 4-MILITARY TRAINING CREDIT 2:05:21 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY reconvened the meeting and noted the arrival of Senator Stedman. CHAIR DUNLEAVY announced that the final order of business would be SB 4. "An Act relating to applying military education, training, and service credit to occupational licensing and certain postsecondary education and employment training requirements; providing for a temporary occupational license for qualified military service members; and providing for an effective date." 2:06:09 PM SENATOR BILL WIELECHOWSKI, sponsor of SB 4, explained that the bill directs state boards to accept relevant military education training and service as equivalent to some or all qualifications for applying for licenses or certificates. It also directs the University of Alaska and the Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education to implement policies and procedures to accept relevant military education as credit toward a degree or technical certificate. The bill is an effort to stem the high unemployment rates for veterans. This is particularly important for Alaska because it has the highest percentage of veterans in the country. He related that a number of states have this legislation and it's the number one priority for the U.S. Department of Defense. He noted that he introduced an identical bill last year. 2:08:22 PM SENATOR MICCICHE asked what happened to the bill last year. SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI explained that companion bills were introduced in the House and Senate and the House bill became the vehicle, but it died on the last night of the session. CHAIR DUNLEAVY asked if this bill was identical. KENDRA KLOSTER, Staff, Senator Bill Wielechowski, said this bill is substantially the same, but the previous committee removed language that allowed a temporary license to be extended for 180 days. 2:09:45 PM SENATOR OLSON asked why the 180-day provision was removed. MS. KLOSTER said a member of that committee was concerned about such an extension for the medical profession. It was a policy call and the sponsor accepted the change. MARC SAN SOUCI, Northwest Regional Liaison, U.S. Department of Defense (DOD), Tacoma, Washington, provided information related to SB 4. He highlighted that 28 states have passed similar legislation granting veterans credit toward either occupational licensing and/or academic credit. He emphasized that the request is not for direct licensure if it is not equivalent. It's only credit where credit is due. He pointed out that the public has already paid for veterans' training by paying taxes. MR. SAN SOUCI reported that the Department of Defense recently released a new Joint Service Transcript (JST) that is generic to all branches of the military. The goal is to make it easier to evaluate course descriptions and training among the different branches. 2:14:21 PM SENATOR OLSON asked how the military grades its students. MR. SAN SOUCI said it varies based on the length and type of program, and sometimes there is variation between the branches of the service. The new JST is intended to make it easier to evaluate the courses for credit. SENATOR OLSON asked what categories of training besides medicine are available and have benefitted by these training credits. MR. SAN SOUCI said many job categories have benefitted, among these are cosmetology and engineering. SENATOR OLSON asked about firefighters and pilots. MR. SAN SOUCI responded that licenses that are federally regulated, such as for pilots and aircraft maintenance technicians, probably wouldn't be included, but licenses for firefighters, engineering technicians, landscapers, and surveyors would be. 2:17:57 PM SENATOR MICCICHE asked if the $137,600 fiscal note was a "one timer" for travel costs for the various occupational boards to get together, plus $30,000 for staff costs for regulation changes. SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said yes. He explained that the Senate Bill last year had a delayed effective date and that eliminated the fiscal note. The House bill had an immediate effective date and it had a fiscal impact. Senator Huggins preferred an immediate effective date, and that's what SB 4 has; thus, the fiscal note. 2:19:02 PM CHAIR DUNLEAVY stated he would hold SB 4 in committee and take public testimony at the next hearing. 2:19:57 PM There being no further business to come before the committee, Chair Dunleavy adjourned the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee at 2:19 p.m.

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Confirmation Documents Governor's Appointees.doc SL&C 3/26/2013 1:30:00 PM
Boards & Commission Confirmations - Governor's Appointments