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                       ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                               
                 SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                            March 11, 2013                                                                                      
                              5:04 p.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator John Coghill, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Lesil McGuire, Vice Chair                                                                                               
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                            
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 49                                                                                                              
"An Act defining 'medically necessary abortion' for purposes of                                                                 
making payments under the state Medicaid program."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  49                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MEDICAID PAYMENT FOR ABORTIONS; TERMS                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COGHILL                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
02/11/13        (S)        READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                      
02/11/13        (S)        JUD, FIN                                                                                             
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02/27/13        (S)        JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                    
02/27/13        (S)        Heard & Held                                                                                         
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03/04/13        (S)        JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                    
03/04/13        (S)        Heard & Held                                                                                         
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03/05/13        (S)        JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                    
03/05/13        (S)        Heard & Held                                                                                         
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03/11/13        (S)        JUD AT 5:00 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LYNN ECOLA, representing herself                                                                                                
Petersburg, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KEN SINEE (ph), representing himself                                                                                            
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RACHAEL GIERHART, representing herself                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PAT CHAMBERS, representing herself                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA MARRIOTT, representing herself                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM COX, M.D., representing himself                                                                                         
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LYNETTE PHILLIPS, representing herself                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
AMY WALKER, representing herself                                                                                                
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CAREN ROBINSON, Lobbyist                                                                                                        
Alaska Women's Lobby                                                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LANCE ROBERTS, representing himself                                                                                             
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DIANA CONWAY, representing herself                                                                                              
Halibut Cove, Alaska                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KATE FINN, representing herself                                                                                                 
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KAREN LEWIS, representing herself                                                                                               
MatSu, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DYLAN ROBERTSON, representing himself                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PAIGE HODSON, representing herself                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ED GOANS, representing himself                                                                                                  
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RAMONA DUBY, representing herself                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in strong opposition to SB 49.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JEFFREY MITTMAN, Executive Director                                                                                             
ACLU of Alaska                                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered to answer questions, and reminded                                                                 
the committee that the ACLU had submitted both written and oral                                                                 
testimony stating opposition to SB 49.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAT MARTIN, representing himself                                                                                                
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COLLEEN MURPHY, M.D., representing herself                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ALBERT JUDSON, representing himself                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JOYANNE BLOOM, representing herself                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DOUG MCKINNIS representing himself                                                                                              
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN TONN, representing herself                                                                                             
Anchorage,  Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JODIE DOMINGUEZ, representing herself                                                                                           
Anchorage,  Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KINDEE LESLIE, representing herself                                                                                             
Fairbanks,  Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA MUSIAL, representing herself                                                                                             
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KEITH KURBER, representing himself                                                                                              
Big Lake, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JESSE ROSS, representing himself                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in full support of SB 49.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PETER NOX, representing himself                                                                                                 
Anchorage,  Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JAN DELAND, Operation Outcry                                                                                                    
Anchorage,  Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEBRA BORLLINI, representing herself                                                                                            
Anchorage,  Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  in support  of SB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA MARSCH, representing herself                                                                                             
Anchorage,  Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEE LONGENBAUGH, representing herself                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 49.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:04:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   JOHN   COGHILL   called    the   Senate   Judiciary   Standing                                                        
Committee  meeting  to  order  at 5:04  p.m.  Present  at the  call  to                                                         
order  were   Senators  Wielechowski,   McGuire,   Dyson,  Olson,   and                                                         
Chair Coghill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
             SB  49-MEDICAID PAYMENT FOR ABORTIONS; TERMS                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:05:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COGHILL   announced  the  consideration   of  SSSB  49.  Noting                                                          
that  this  was the  fourth  hearing,  he  stated  the intention   this                                                         
evening was to take public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked for answers to the following questions:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   1. How are Alaska's adoption statutes working, who is in                                                                     
     charge at the state level, and how are adoptions working                                                                   
     for low income women who do not want to keep the child they                                                                
     are carrying?                                                                                                              
   2. Are intermission nurseries still available for young                                                                      
     mothers to take their babies when they need relief?                                                                        
   3. What are the qualifications for Head Start and what would                                                                 
     it take to expand the program?                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  relayed  that  his  experience   was  that  there  were                                                         
far more  couples  looking  for children  than  children  available  to                                                         
adopt.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  reminded  the  committee  that  the  bill  is narrowly                                                          
focused  on  when a  procedure  is  paid  for as  medically  necessary                                                          
and  when  is it  elective.  He  agreed  it  would  be appropriate   to                                                         
hear from the DHSS commissioner.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:13:59 PM                                                                                                                    
LYNN  ECOLA,  representing   herself,  described  herself  as  a  back-                                                         
alley  abortionist  who was  put out  of business  by Roe  v. Wade.  SB                                                         
49   will  restore    that  client   base,   particularly    the   most                                                         
vulnerable  of  those clients,  poor  Alaskan  women. She  highlighted                                                          
that  this medical  judgment  legislation  was  akin to  that found  in                                                         
China and Pakistan.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:16:02 PM                                                                                                                    
KEN SINEE  (ph),  representing  himself,  spoke  in support  of SB  49.                                                         
He  said  he doesn't  believe  in  abortion  at  all,  and  those  that                                                         
are  not medically  necessary   definitely  should  not be  covered  by                                                         
Medicaid or taxpayer dollars.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:17:49 PM                                                                                                                    
RACHAEL  GIERHART,   representing  herself,   urged  the committee   to                                                         
oppose  SB 49.  She said  she  works with  people  with  severe mental                                                          
health   disorders    and   they   sometimes   need   abortions.    She                                                         
respectfully   pointed  out  that  this  should   not  be a  political                                                          
decision.  Abortion  is  never an  easy  option,  but it  is important                                                          
to respect  women  enough  to  allow them  to  decide for  themselves.                                                          
To  do otherwise   takes  away  meaningful  independence.   Instead  of                                                         
reducing   access  to  a  valid   and  safe  medical   procedure,   she                                                         
suggested   reducing  abortions   overall  by  educating  citizens   on                                                         
prevention.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:20:55 PM                                                                                                                    
PAT  CHAMBERS,  representing   herself,  said  she  was testifying   in                                                         
support  of  SB  49. She  said  it  is morally   right  to set  a  high                                                         
bar,  particularly  when  it comes  to killing  innocent,  defenseless                                                          
babies.  She  suggested  the  committee  not  worry  about  people  who                                                         
cry about not being able to kill babies.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
ALICIA  MARRIOTT,  representing  herself,  spoke  in opposition  to  SB                                                         
49.  She said  she  has  traveled  extensively  throughout   the  state                                                         
and  is always  amazed  that  the  lifestyle  that  some  may consider                                                          
hardship  is  seen  by others  as  everyday  life.  However,  a common                                                          
thread  in  struggling  communities   is  that  many  people  lack  the                                                         
financial,  emotional,   medical  or  other  resources  necessary   for                                                         
their  wellbeing.  Noting  the  exceptions  for rape  and  incest,  she                                                         
offered  her belief  that  the choice  should  always reside  with  the                                                         
woman and her doctor.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She  urged the  committee  to  take time  to consider  the  vulnerable                                                          
people  in  this state  who  are  often  overlooked  because  of  their                                                         
location,  economic  status,  or cultural  background.   Voting for  SB                                                         
49  imposes  personal  opinions  on  the  right  of  Alaskan  women  to                                                         
care for their own reproductive health.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:25:02 PM                                                                                                                    
WILLIAM  COX,   M.D.,  representing   himself,  said   he  has  been  a                                                         
radiologist  for  many years  and he  opposes  SB 49. He  recalled  the                                                         
mandatory  ultrasound  debacle  last  session  and observed  that  this                                                         
bill  appears  to  be  a continuation   of the  attempts   to restrict                                                          
abortion.  The  difference   here  is that  SB  49  would  only target                                                          
the  poor.  He offered  his  belief  that  the state  should  continue                                                          
to  maintain  general  oversight   of  medical  practice,   but nobody                                                          
outside  the physician/patient   relationship   should  determine  what                                                         
is medically necessary.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR.  COX cautioned  the  committee  to  view with  healthy  skepticism                                                          
the   recent   testimony   that   abortion    can   somehow   lead   to                                                         
depression.   He  emphasized  that  while   postpartum  depression   is                                                         
grounded   in  science  and  universally   accepted   by  the  medical                                                          
community,  it  has  nothing  to  do  with whether   the woman  wanted                                                          
the   baby   or  not.   Furthermore,    women   who  become   pregnant                                                          
certainly   wouldn't   be  urged   to  have   an  abortion   to   avoid                                                         
postpartum depression.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR.  COX  suggested   that   to  decrease  the   number  of  abortions                                                          
overall,   the  committee  should   support  medically   accurate   and                                                         
age-appropriate    education,    universal   no-copay    contraceptive                                                          
coverage, and over-the-counter morning after pills.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:28:43 PM                                                                                                                    
LYNETTE  PHILLIPS,   representing   herself,  stated  support   for  SB                                                         
49.  She  offered   her  belief   that  Medicaid   should  only   cover                                                         
medically  necessary   abortions,  except  in  the  case  of  rape  and                                                         
incest.   Taxpayers   should  not  be   financially   responsible   for                                                         
elective   abortions.   She   characterized    SB  49   as  reasonable                                                          
legislation, and opined that adoption is a viable alternative.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:29:58 PM                                                                                                                    
AMY WALKER,  representing   herself,  testified  in support  of SB  49.                                                         
She  said she  opposes  abortion  at  any time  because  the  right  to                                                         
life  is   the  first  inalienable   right.   Furthermore,   taxpayers                                                          
should  not have  to pay  for others'  irresponsible,   wrong choices.                                                          
She  agreed that  women  should  be able  to make  choices  concerning                                                          
their  own bodies,  but pointed  out  that a baby  is not  part of  the                                                         
mother's  body.  It is a  separate  and unique  person.  She asked  the                                                         
committee  to  remove  the  exception   for rape  and  incest  because                                                          
these  babies  should   not  be  held  responsible  for  the  father's                                                          
crime.  Her  preference   is to  have  no  abortions  at  all,  but  if                                                         
there  is accommodation   for  medical  necessity,  the  mother's  life                                                         
should truly be at risk.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:32:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CAREN  ROBINSON,  Lobbyist,  Alaska  Women's  Lobby  (AWL),  explained                                                          
that  AWL is  a statewide  organization   dedicated  to  advancing  the                                                         
rights  of  women,  children,  and  families.  The  organization   does                                                         
not  support  SB 49  in  general  and  specifically  opposes  limiting                                                          
the   definition   of  "medically    necessary"   to  exclude   mental                                                          
illness.  AWL  believes  that  all  women have  the  right  to control                                                          
their   reproduction   and  that   doctors   should   decide  when   an                                                         
abortion   is  necessary.   Doctors  should   be  free  to  use   their                                                         
medical  judgment  based  on the  consideration  of  all  factors.  AWL                                                         
further  believes   that  the  Supreme  Court  was  right  to  broadly                                                          
define  "medically   necessary"   to allow   the  attending  physician                                                          
the latitude necessary to make the best medical judgment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBINSON  requested  the  committee  hold SB  49 and  give the  new                                                         
DHSS  regulations  governing  when  the  state  Medicaid  program  pays                                                         
for  abortions  a chance  to work.  DHSS  spent a  great  deal of  time                                                         
and   effort   on   these   clarifications    and   they    were   only                                                         
implemented   in January   2013.  She  also  suggested  the  committee                                                          
ask  the commissioner   about  the women's  health  Medicaid  options,                                                          
because  studies   show  that  these   have  the  potential   to  bring                                                         
abortion rates down substantially.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:35:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DYSON asked what she considers an elective abortion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBINSON said she wasn't medically qualified to answer.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON   clarified  that  he  was  talking   about  situations                                                          
that are not medical.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBINSON  responded  that  the  perception  of  what  is elective                                                          
may change once all the circumstances are understood.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:36:10 PM                                                                                                                    
LANCE  ROBERTS,  representing  himself,  urged  the committee  to  move                                                         
SB  49  forward   and  provide   a  good  definition   for  "medically                                                          
necessary"   rather  than  the  wishy-washy  reasons   that  are  being                                                         
used.  He  maintained   that  it  is  incumbent   upon  government   to                                                         
develop   good  definitions   and  emphasized   that  there  certainly                                                          
should  not  be a  program  that spends  a  lot of  taxpayer  money  to                                                         
kill  babies  for purely  elective  reasons.  It  is a sad  commentary                                                          
on society that it happens at all, he said.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:38:02 PM                                                                                                                    
DIANA   CONWAY,   representing    herself,   pointed   out   that   the                                                         
sponsor's  aide,  Chad  Hutchinson,   said  the  sole  purpose  of  the                                                         
bill  is to bring  the state  into  compliance  with federal  Medicaid                                                          
rules,  not to  do away  with abortion.  However,  after  listening  to                                                         
all  three  public  hearings   she  concluded  that  is  not  true.  In                                                         
fact,  there has  been no  evidence  that the  federal  government  has                                                         
ordered   the   state   to  provide    a  statutory   definition    for                                                         
medically  necessary   abortion.  She  observed  that  almost  all  the                                                         
testimony   in  support  of  the  bill   was  offered  by  people   who                                                         
oppose  abortion  in general,   and she  believes  those  people  would                                                         
rightly   scream  tyranny   if  the   law  forced   them  to  have   an                                                         
abortion.  It is  therefore  reasonable  to call  tyranny  any attempt                                                          
against  the  established   right  of women   to choose  abortion   for                                                         
themselves.  She  pointed  out  that  Alaska  statutes  do  not define                                                          
"medically  necessary"  for  procedures  on backs,  knees,  and hearts                                                          
when  Medicaid   is  paying  and  the   same  rule  should  apply   for                                                         
abortion. She urged the committee not to pass SB 49.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  clarified  that  the Supreme  Court  said  that states                                                          
should  only  pay  for medically   necessary  abortions,  but  did  not                                                         
provide  the  criteria.   The purpose   of SB  49  is  to help  define                                                          
what is elective.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:41:00 PM                                                                                                                    
KATE  FINN,  representing   herself,  said  she has  been  a  nurse  in                                                         
this  state for  36  years, working  primarily  in  public  health  and                                                         
women's  health.  For  five  years  she  worked  as  a sexual  assault                                                          
nurse  examiner   in  Homer.   She  noted  that   SB  49  provides   an                                                         
exception  for  rape  and incest,  but  it  does not  say  who decides                                                          
if  the  sexual  event  was  rape  or  incest.  If  the  bill  doesn't                                                          
define  who  makes this  important  decision,   she didn't  understand                                                          
how it could be included in the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. FINN  said  the medical  profession  generally  acknowledges   that                                                         
the  condition  of  the  physical  body  is not  the  only  thing  that                                                         
matters   when   considering   medically   necessary    interventions.                                                          
Mental,    emotional,   and    social   considerations    are   highly                                                          
influential   and  necessary   in  determining   a   person's  medical                                                          
status  and  outcome.   Thus,  restricting   Medicaid  funds   to  only                                                         
physical  risk  and  life of  the  mother ignores   a huge  portion  of                                                         
what matters in literally and figuratively saving a life.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FINN  pointed   out  that  many   psychotropic   medications   are                                                         
teratogenic  and  should  never  be  used  during  pregnancy,  but  may                                                         
be  the   only   medication   that   stabilizes   the   symptoms.   She                                                         
emphasized  that  a woman  needs  to be  given the  choice  of whether                                                          
or  not  to  carry  a  pregnancy   to term   under  these  conditions.                                                          
Other   mental  and  emotional   conditions   can   also  be  severely                                                          
affected   by  a pregnancy   and  the  postpartum   period.   To  limit                                                         
medically  necessary  solely  to  physical  conditions  runs  contrary                                                          
to how medical care decisions are made.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. FINN  said  she honors  the belief  system  that the  bill appears                                                          
to  come  from, and  would  ask  the  sponsor  to  honor  the personal                                                          
belief  systems   of  others.  She  cautioned   not  to  discount   the                                                         
physical,   emotional,  mental,   and  spiritual   life  circumstances                                                          
that  bring  a  woman   to  the  moment  of  having   to  make  such  a                                                         
momentous  life-livelong  decision  about  whether  or not  to seek  an                                                         
abortion.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COGHILL  said  there  are well-defined   statutory  definitions                                                          
for rape  and,  according  to the  testimony,  less than  four percent                                                          
of Medicaid abortions fall into that category.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:47:23 PM                                                                                                                    
KAREN  LEWIS, representing   herself,  characterized  the  Roe v.  Wade                                                         
decision  as legislated  immorality   that has  resulted  in more  than                                                         
55  million  children  being  murdered  in  the womb.  She  maintained                                                          
that   using  tax   dollars   for   the  procedure   makes   taxpayers                                                          
accessory   to  murder.  She   agreed  with  earlier   testimony   that                                                         
women  should  be  responsible  for  their  reproductive   capability,                                                          
and  stated  that  it  wasn't  rocket  science  to  keep from  getting                                                          
pregnant.  It  was a matter  of  being  aware of  what one  was doing.                                                          
She  thanked  the  committee  for  bringing  the  legislation  forward                                                          
and  expressed  appreciation   to  the  legislators   who continue   to                                                         
fight  for righteousness   and what  is  right. She  knows  for a  fact                                                         
that it isn't right to kill children in the womb.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:49:23 PM                                                                                                                    
DYLAN  ROBERTSON,   representing  himself,   said  he  supports  SB  49                                                         
first  as a  stewardship  issue.  With  so many  budgetary  struggles,                                                          
it  makes sense  to  think  carefully  about  what  should  and should                                                          
not  be paid  for by  [Medicaid].  He said  his  second point  is  that                                                         
abortion  can  have  a profound  effect  on  both the  man  and woman.                                                          
He  described    his  friend's   experience    being  part   of   three                                                         
abortions when he would have preferred to raise the kids.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:52:55 PM                                                                                                                    
PAIGE  HODSON,  representing  herself,  said  she  lives  in Anchorage                                                          
and has  been  a court-appointed  special  advocate  for  children  and                                                         
a  volunteer   at  the   intermission   crisis  center   that  Senator                                                          
McGuire  mentioned  earlier.  She  stated  that her  own  family  story                                                         
vividly  underlines  why women  and  their doctors  must  be given  the                                                         
latitude  to  make  decisions  about  their   own lives,  health,   and                                                         
families.  She  related  that  when  her  very  poor,  exhausted,   and                                                         
depressed  mother  learned  she  was  pregnant  with  her  fifth  child                                                         
she collapsed   and was  hospitalized  with suicidal  ideations.   Safe                                                         
and   legal   abortion   was   not   available   and   the   pregnancy                                                          
continued.  Something  went  wrong  during childbirth  and  the doctor                                                          
told  her  to  choose  which  life  to  save.  Her  mother   chose  the                                                         
baby,  but thankfully  both  survived.  Ms. Hodson  said  she was  that                                                         
fifth  baby and  she  would have  gladly  exchanged  her  life for  her                                                         
mother's.   Nobody  knows  what  would   have  happened   to  her  four                                                         
young  siblings  if  their  mother  had died  in  childbirth,  but  the                                                         
bottom  line  is that  it was  her decision  to  make.  Women's mental                                                          
and  physical  health is  too complex  to  be set  in a  predetermined                                                          
list  that politicians  have  deemed  medically  necessary.  She  urged                                                         
the  committee  to  move  on to  more  important  state  business   and                                                         
stop  trying  to  micromanage   women's   lives.  Alaska  courts   have                                                         
consistently  held  that  women have  a fundamental  right  to privacy                                                          
and  that  there  can  be no  discrimination   in  medical  decisions.                                                          
The  continued  effort  to  undermine  the  rights  of  poor  women  is                                                         
particularly  unnerving,  because  they  are less  likely  to have  the                                                         
ability to fight for their rights.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. HODSON  concluded  that  the reality  is that  more  lives will  be                                                         
saved  by fully  funding  family  planning  and  health  care services                                                          
for  all Alaskans  than  by trying  to  deprive  women of  their  right                                                         
to control their own lives and bodies.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
ED GOANS,  representing  himself,  said  he lives  in Soldotna  and  is                                                         
a  front  street   prolife  supporter   as  opposed  to  a  back-alley                                                          
taker  of innocent   life.  He said  it's  apparent  that  abortion  is                                                         
treated  as big  business  by pro-abortion  advocates.   However,  this                                                         
big business should not be supported by Alaska taxpayers.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Those  who oppose  SB 49  have made  reference  to how  safe they  feel                                                         
with  access  to state-paid   elective  abortion,  but  the  babies  in                                                         
the  womb  are  not  so  safe.  Pro-abortion   advocates  confuse   the                                                         
issue  of  abortion   with  micromanaging   women's  lives,   but  it's                                                         
really  about  saving  innocent   lives.  People  who  are  opposed  to                                                         
the  bill  believe  that mentally   challenged  people  should  not  be                                                         
denied  Medicaid  funded  abortions,   but he  is  very thankful   that                                                         
his mentally  challenged   mother-in-law  did not  abort  his wife.  He                                                         
cited one of his favorite books:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     For  you  formed  my inward  parts;  you  covered  me  in my                                                               
     mother's   womb.  I will  praise   you for  I  am  fearfully                                                               
     and  wonderfully   made.  Marvelous   are  your  works,  and                                                               
     that my soul knows very well.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.   GOANS   offered   his   belief   that   elective   abortion    is                                                         
carelessly   casting   aside  God's   masterful  handiwork.   He   also                                                         
expressed    appreciation   for   Senator    McGuire's   comments    on                                                         
adoption,  and  said  he  prays  that  the right  decisions   are  made                                                         
with regard to SB 49.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:59:32 PM                                                                                                                    
RAMONA  DUBY,  representing   herself,  said  she  opposes  SB  49  but                                                         
appreciates  Senator  McGuire's  comments   and hopes  there  can be  a                                                         
connection   between  adoption   and  the  foster   care  system.   She                                                         
characterized   the bill  as an  effort  to save  money  and expressed                                                          
hope  that  it doesn't   actually  add  to the  numbers  of  those  who                                                         
are  already  experiencing  mental  illness  and  receiving  services.                                                          
She  observed  that a  lot of  faith-based  issues  entered  into  this                                                         
bill and she would prefer to see less of that particular focus.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:03:02 PM                                                                                                                    
JEFFREY  MITTMAN,  Executive  Director,  ACLU of  Alaska,  said he  was                                                         
available  to  answer  questions,  and  reminded   the committee   that                                                         
the  ACLU had  submitted  both  written  and oral  testimony  opposing                                                          
SB 49.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:03:49 PM                                                                                                                    
PAT  MARTIN,   representing   himself,  said   it's  been  interesting                                                          
hearing  the  varied  testimony  on  SB  49, and  it  appears  to  come                                                         
down  to the  fact that  poverty  and  inconvenience  should  never  be                                                         
the  basis  for  medical  necessity,  particularly   when  considering                                                          
the  termination    of  a  life.   It  doesn't   matter   whether   one                                                         
believes  that  life begins  at  birth  or at  conception;  either  way                                                         
it's  a life. He  stated  support for  SB 49  and thanked  the sponsor                                                          
for introducing it.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
COLLEEN  MURPHY,  M.D.,  representing  herself,  said  she  is a  board                                                         
certified   obstetrician/gynecologist    and  abortion  provider.   She                                                         
read the following definition into the record:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Medical   necessity  is  a  United  States   legal  doctrine                                                               
     related   to   activities   which   may   be  justified   as                                                               
     reasonable,    necessary,   and/or   appropriate   based  on                                                               
     evidence-based clinical standards of care.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MURPHY  also  cited  the Amnesty   International  description   of                                                         
maternal health in the United States:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     It's  more  dangerous  to give  birth in  the United  States                                                               
     than  in  49 other  countries.  African-American   women are                                                               
     at   almost  four  times   greater  risk   [of  dying]  than                                                               
     Caucasian   women. A  safe pregnancy  is  a human  right for                                                               
     every woman regardless of race or income.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Maternal   mortality   ratios   have   increased   from  6.6                                                               
     deaths  per  100,000  live  births  in 1987  to 13.3  deaths                                                               
     per  100,000   live  births  in  2006.  While  some  of  the                                                               
     recorded   increase  is due  to  improved  data  collection,                                                               
     the  fact  remains  that  maternal   mortality  ratios  have                                                               
     risen significantly.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  USA  spends  more  than  any other  country  on  health                                                               
     care,  and  more  on maternal  health  than  any other  type                                                               
     of  hospital  care.  Despite  this,  women in  the  USA have                                                               
     a    higher    risk   of    dying    of   pregnancy-related                                                                
     complications    than   those   in   49   other   countries,                                                               
     including Kuwait, Bulgaria, and South Korea.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     African-American    women   are  nearly   four   times  more                                                               
     likely  to  die  of pregnancy-related    complications  than                                                               
     white   women.   These  rates   and  disparities   have  not                                                               
     improved in more than 20 years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Maternal   deaths   are  only   the  tip  of  the   iceberg.                                                               
     During   2004  and  2005,  more  than  68,000  women  nearly                                                               
     died  in  childbirth  in the  USA.  Each year,  1.7  million                                                               
     women  suffer  a complication   that has  an adverse  effect                                                               
     on their health.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This  is  not just  a  public  health  emergency  - it  is a                                                               
     human  rights  crisis.  Women  in the  USA face  a  range of                                                               
     obstacles   in  obtaining   the  services   they  need.  The                                                               
     health   care  system   suffers   from  multiple   failures:                                                               
     discrimination,    financial,   bureaucratic   and  language                                                               
     barriers   [to care,  lack  of  information  about  maternal                                                               
     care   and  family   planning   options,   lack   of  active                                                               
     participation   in  care  decisions,   inadequate   staffing                                                               
     and  quality   protocols,  and  a  lack  of  accountability                                                                
     and oversight.]                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. MURPHY also shared an overview of maternal mortality in the                                                                 
U.S. and the comparative safety of legal, induced abortion to                                                                   
childbirth in the U.S.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Maternal mortality:                                                                                                        
     Three   percent   of  maternal   deaths  occurred   after  a                                                               
     spontaneous   or induced  abortion.  Four  percent  occurred                                                               
     after   ectopic   pregnancies.   Fifteen  percent   occurred                                                               
        prior to delivery and 77 percent occur after delivery.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The  Green  Journal:  Obstetrics   and Gynecology   February                                                               
     2012:                                                                                                                      
     We   estimate   mortality   rates   associated   with   live                                                               
     births   and  legally   induced  abortions   in  the  United                                                               
     States  in  1998  to 2005.  We used  data  from the  Centers                                                               
     for    Disease    Control    and   Prevention,     Pregnancy                                                               
     Mortality   Surveillance  System,  birth  certificates,  and                                                               
     the   Guttmacher  Institute   surveys.   In  addition,  they                                                               
     searched    the   population    based    data   during   the                                                               
     morbidity of abortion and childbirth.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The   pregnancy  associated   mortality   rate  among  women                                                               
     who  delivered   live births  was  8.8  deaths  per  100,000                                                               
     live   births.  The  mortality   rate  related   to  induced                                                               
     abortions   was  0.6  deaths.  The  legal  induced  abortion                                                               
     is  markedly  safer  than  childbirth.   The  risk of  death                                                               
     associated   with  child birth  is  approximately  14  times                                                               
     higher than that with abortion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. MURPHY  said  if there  is a 14  times higher  rate  of death  from                                                         
giving  birth compared  to  having  an abortion,  the state  should  be                                                         
providing  abortion   services  to  women  under  the  state  Medicaid                                                          
care system.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked Dr.  Murphy to  send the  statistical  review  to                                                         
his office.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:11:36 PM                                                                                                                    
ALBERT  JUDSON,   representing   himself,  said  he  was  speaking   in                                                         
support  of SB  49. He is  an Alaska  Native  from the  Tlingit Tribe,                                                          
a qualified  chemical  dependency   counselor,  a Christian,  and  very                                                         
prolife.  He  related   his  personal  story   of being   so  small  at                                                         
birth  he wore  doll's clothing  and  was fed  with an  eyedropper.  He                                                         
mused  that  in modern   times he  may  have  been  aborted.  He  cited                                                         
some  statistics.  In 2011,  623 abortions  were  performed  in Alaska                                                          
and  the   cumulative   cost   ranged  from   $436,000   to  $623,000.                                                          
Nationwide,   about   1.1  million   abortions  are   performed   every                                                         
year. He said this is big business.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JUDSON  discussed   declining   federal  funds  and  opined   that                                                         
Medicaid   funded  abortions   should   be  kept   to  a  minimum.   He                                                         
reiterated  support  for SB  49 and  his belief  that  Medicaid should                                                          
only  pay   for  an  abortion   in  the  case   of  rape,  incest,   or                                                         
medically   necessary  reasons.   He  relayed   that  because   of  his                                                         
belief  in life  it was a  major compromise  to  agree to  any kind  of                                                         
abortion; adoption is a much better alternative.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:17:09 PM                                                                                                                    
JOYANNE  BLOOM,  representing   herself,   said  she  was speaking   in                                                         
opposition  to  SB 49,  but wanted  to  compliment  the  committee  for                                                         
actually  listening  to  the  testimony  and  being  open to  what  was                                                         
said.  She  pointed  out  that  she and  the  committee  members   were                                                         
all  advantaged  and had  the means  to  make their  own  choices,  and                                                         
clarified  that  she  was  speaking  for  the  disadvantaged   that  do                                                         
not  have the  means  to  make their  own  choices.  Since  the Alaska                                                          
Constitution   promises  that  all  people  are treated  equally,   she                                                         
asked  the  committee   to  support  that  promise  and  maintain   the                                                         
means for the disadvantaged to make choices.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:19:20 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUG MCKINNIS, representing  himself, said he was from  Wasilla and was                                                         
speaking in support  of this excellent legislation. SB 49  is not about                                                         
whether or  not a woman can  get an abortion;  it is about who  pays to                                                         
kill unborn children  in certain circumstances. He  urged the committee                                                         
to  stay  focused  on  that. He  highlighted  that  Medicaid  pays  for                                                         
medically necessary procedures  and the bill recognizes  that it should                                                         
only cover  medically  necessary abortions.  This is  in line with  the                                                         
policies of  Medicaid, which does not  pay for elective  procedures. He                                                         
warned the committee  to look with skepticism at the  data from Amnesty                                                         
International, because  nobody in their  right mind would  believe that                                                         
the U.S. is a dangerous place for  pregnant women to live. Rather, it's                                                         
the unborn child  in the U.S. that  faces danger. Since 1973  more than                                                         
50 million children have been killed. That is the real tragedy.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCKINNIS offered  his belief that  the people who oppose SB  49 are                                                         
focused on  the money  they will lose  if it passes,  but they  are not                                                         
concerned about the  free choice of the  people who do not  want to pay                                                         
for abortions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:22:11 PM                                                                                                                    
KATHLEEN  TONN,  representing  herself,   said she  is from  Anchorage                                                          
and  she  represents  three  parties:   Jehovah  - The  God  Almighty,                                                          
the  Holy Bible,  and  the unborn.  The  testimony  thus  far has  come                                                         
from  three  perspectives:   the spiritual,   the  intellect,  and  the                                                         
emotional.   She   cited   Genesis   Chapter   1   Verse  27   as   the                                                         
definitive  word  of  God and  the  absolute  authority  on  the  issue                                                         
of human life:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        So God created mankind in his own image, in the image                                                                   
          of God he created them; male and female he created                                                                    
     them.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TONN said  life  comes from  God  and dissolution  of  life  comes                                                         
through  the  venue  of  miscarriage,   not abortion.   As  a taxpayer                                                          
and  Alaska  resident  for  more  than  32 years,  she  does  not  want                                                         
anybody's   money   used   for   elective   abortions.    She  related                                                          
personal  stories   about  abortion,   adoption,  and  pregnancy   that                                                         
resulted  from  rape,  and  promised  to  pray  that  the  bill passes                                                          
and for two of the testifiers today.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:26:45 PM                                                                                                                    
JODIE   DOMINGUEZ,   representing    herself,   said   she   lives   in                                                         
Anchorage  and is  testifying  to encourage  a  no vote  on SB 49.  She                                                         
explained  that  she opposes  the bill  because  she promised  herself                                                          
and  others   that  when   she  goes  to  the   ballot  box  she   will                                                         
consider  how  her vote  will  affect the  everyday  lives  of others.                                                          
That  said, she  questioned  how voting  yes on  SB 49  would help  the                                                         
everyday  lives  of  people  in this  society.  She  pointed  out  that                                                         
an unplanned  pregnancy  definitely   affects the  woman  for the  rest                                                         
of her  life, and  a child  who is  unplanned  may spend  his/her  life                                                         
feeling   uncomfortable    and  an   inconvenience.   She   urged   the                                                         
committee  to  focus on  a society  with  happier  lives  with planned                                                          
pregnancies, and to separate the church from the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:29:39 PM                                                                                                                    
KINDEE  LESLIE,  representing  herself,  said  she lives  in Fairbanks                                                          
and is  in favor  of SB  49. She said  that  she appreciates  that  the                                                         
committee  is  taking  the time  to define  "medically   necessary"  in                                                         
statute.   This  will   clarify   when  Medicaid   will   pay  for   an                                                         
abortion  and help  to steward  tax  dollars.  She offered  her belief                                                          
that  if  a   procedure  is  not   medically   necessary  then   it  is                                                         
optional  and public  money  should  not be used  to pay  for optional                                                          
procedures.   Although  she  understands  that  women  want  the  right                                                         
to  choose,  they ought  to  be required  to  pay  for their  choices.                                                          
She  urged   the  committee   to  move   cautiously   with  regard   to                                                         
including   mental    health   issues   as   a   medically   necessary                                                          
condition,  because  the government   does not  have the  right to  say                                                         
who  is worthy  to reproduce  or  who  meets the  financial  or mental                                                          
standard   to  have   children.   She  suggested   focusing   more   on                                                         
prevention   rather  than  the  consequences   of  poor  choices.   She                                                         
implored  the committee  to  continue  working  for what  is right  for                                                         
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:33:06 PM                                                                                                                    
ALICIA  MUSIAL,  representing   herself,  said  she is  a  low income,                                                          
22-year-old   mother  of two  who  supports  SB  49.  She  offered  her                                                         
belief   that  depression,   poverty,   inconvenience,    and  wanting                                                          
control   of   one's  reproduction    are  not   medically   necessary                                                          
reasons  for abortion.  Furthermore,   rape isn't  a valid  reason  for                                                         
an  abortion,   because  children   conceived  by  rape   are  no  less                                                         
worthy  than  babies  conceived  in other  conditions.   She concluded                                                          
that  an  unwanted  pregnancy   should  not  qualify   as a  medically                                                          
needed   abortion  and  should   not  be  paid   for  by  Alaskan   tax                                                         
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:34:43 PM                                                                                                                    
KEITH  KURBER,  representing   himself,  said  he  lives in  Fairbanks                                                          
and  is speaking  in  favor  of SB  49, because  the  issue  of choice                                                          
resides  with both  the mother  and  the person  who is  the result  of                                                         
the  pregnancy.  He  voiced  support  for  the  idea  that  the number                                                          
one  issue   is  life  and  getting   the  chance   to  have  one.   He                                                         
emphasized   that   it   is  absolutely   within   the   legislature's                                                          
purview  to craft  laws  that affect  the  freedoms  of the  people  of                                                         
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:37:56 PM                                                                                                                    
JESSE  ROSS,  representing  himself,   said he  is  a Juneau  resident                                                          
and   is  wholeheartedly    in  support   of   SB  49  to   provide   a                                                         
definition  [for  medically  necessary].   The issue  isn't  about  who                                                         
decides  or  women's   rights;  it's   about  whether  the  people   of                                                         
Alaska  want  to  pay  for  abortions.  He,  for  one,  does  not  want                                                         
that  and   he  doesn't  believe   that  the  responsible   people   of                                                         
Alaska  should   have  to  pay  for  the  irresponsible   actions   and                                                         
choices   of  others.  He  urged  the   committee  to  move  the   bill                                                         
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
PETER   NOX,  representing    himself,   said   he  is   calling   from                                                         
Anchorage  to voice  support  for SB  49, which  proposes  to stem  the                                                         
use  of tax  dollars  to  fund purely  elective   abortions.  He  noted                                                         
that  some  have  said  that   politicians  should   stay  out  of  the                                                         
doctor's  office,  and  he would  point  out  that  by that  logic  tax                                                         
dollars  should  also be  kept out  of the doctor's  office.  However,                                                          
since  tax  dollars   are  involved   in  medicine,  he  applauds   the                                                         
politicians  who  are taking  steps  to ensure  that the  state is  not                                                         
funding purely elective abortions.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
JAN  DELAND,   Operation   Outcry,   Anchorage,   said   she  supports                                                          
clarifying  what  is  a  medically  necessary  abortion  and  believes                                                          
the definition   should be  narrowed  to include  only someone  who  is                                                         
facing  the  imminent  loss  of their  physical   life. She  explained                                                          
that  Operation  Outcry administers   to women  who have  been injured                                                          
by  abortion  and  she  is  testifying   to  dispel  the  notion   that                                                         
abortion   is safe.   She  described  her  emotional   devastation   to                                                         
learn  that   the  doctor  who   performed  her   D&C  procedure   also                                                         
performed  abortions.  She  warned  that  the abortion   providers  who                                                         
testified   have  a profit   motive  and  supplied  bogus  facts.   She                                                         
offered  her  belief  that  abortion   is  dangerous,  devastating   to                                                         
the  purpose   and  gifting  of  women,   causes  breast  cancer,   and                                                         
causes  psychological   harm.  She  said  she wants  to  stand  up  for                                                         
women,  children,   and  anyone  who  is  at  a  disadvantage  because                                                          
they  aren't  being  told  the whole  truth.  Furthermore,   she  would                                                         
like  the exceptions   for rape  and  incest  to be  removed  from  the                                                         
bill. The criminal should be punished, not the mother or baby.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
DEBRA  BORLLINI,  representing  herself,   stated  support  for SB  49.                                                         
She  described  being hospitalized   with serious  complications   from                                                         
asthma  and getting  advice  from an  on-call  physician  to seriously                                                          
consider  terminating  her  pregnancy.  She  did not  heed  the advice                                                          
and  delivered  a  healthy  baby  boy.  She  said  she  would  like  to                                                         
believe  that the  on-call  doctor would  have  chosen life  if he  had                                                         
had  access  to her  entire  health  record.  Providing   a definition                                                          
for "medically   necessary"  will ensure  that  no other  child's  life                                                         
will be subjected to an unnecessary abortion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:49:19 PM                                                                                                                    
PAMELA  MARSCH,  representing  herself,  said  she lives  in Anchorage                                                          
and would  recommend  withdrawing  SB  49 because  it seeks  to define                                                          
something   that  is  truly  between  a  woman  and  her  doctor.   She                                                         
described   having  a  very  difficult   pregnancy  and  delivery   and                                                         
questioned  whether  she  would  have  survived  if  she hadn't  had  a                                                         
very  good  support  system.  Not all  women  are  that fortunate,   so                                                         
it  is inappropriate   to  think  that  it is  anyone  other  than  the                                                         
woman's right to decide what to do with her pregnancy.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:51:14 PM                                                                                                                    
DEE  LONGENBAUGH,  representing  herself,   said she  was urging  a  no                                                         
vote  on  SB 49  for  a  number  of reasons.   First,  men  are making                                                          
decisions  about  what  women  can  or  cannot  do.  Second,  the  talk                                                         
from  Anchorage   about  not  using  taxpayer   money  is  interesting                                                          
because  Anchorage  doesn't  have any  taxes.  Third, it  truly is  the                                                         
case  that  some families   couldn't  afford  to  have another  child.                                                          
Finally,  this  talk  is reminiscent   of the  Reagan  administration.                                                          
They  cared deeply  about  the  child from  conception  to  birth,  but                                                         
there  wasn't  much realistic   talk about  what  happens  to unwanted                                                          
children. She reiterated that she was urging a no vote on SB 49.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:54:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL closed  public testimony on SB 49 and  announced he would                                                         
hold SB 49 for further consideration.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:54:42 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to come  before the  committee, Chair                                                         
Coghill adjourned  the Senate  Judiciary   Standing  Committee  meeting                                                         
at 6:54 p.m.                                                                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB0049B Sponsor Substitute.pdf SJUD 2/27/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/4/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/5/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
Sponsor Statement - Medically Necessary.docx SJUD 2/27/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/5/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
SB 49 Sponsor Statement
Sectional SB 49.doc SJUD 2/27/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/4/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/5/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
SB 49_Planned Parenthood Powerpoint.pdf SJUD 3/5/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
ACLU Review 02 27 2013.pdf SJUD 3/5/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
Letter from Giguere.pdf SJUD 3/5/2013 1:30:00 PM
SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
6 letters of testimony on SB 49.pdf SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
Comments from Lance Roberts.pdf SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
Fiscal Note for SB 49.pdf SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49
Letter from Clarkson.pdf SJUD 3/11/2013 5:00:00 PM
SB 49