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01:32:39 PM Confirmation Hearing: State of Alaska Parole Board
01:40:22 PM SB61
01:42:52 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association
02:42:46 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= SB 61 2011 REVISOR'S BILL TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 61(STA) Out of Committee
+ Confirmations: TELECONFERENCED
Parole Board
Board of Governors/Bar Association
Police Standards Council
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 9, 2011                                                                                          
                           1:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hollis French, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Joe Paskvan                                                                                                             
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 61                                                                                                              
"An Act making corrective amendments to the Alaska Statutes as                                                                  
recommended by the revisor of statutes; and providing for an                                                                    
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSB 61(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
     Parole Board                                                                                                             
          Daniel Morris                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar                                                                                     
          William Granger                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
          Rebecca Hamon                                                                                                         
          Kelly Alzaharna                                                                                                       
          Bernice Troglio                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  61                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: 2011 REVISOR'S BILL                                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
01/24/11       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/24/11       (S)       STA, JUD                                                                                               
02/15/11       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/15/11       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/15/11       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/17/11       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/17/11       (S)       Moved CSSB  61(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/17/11       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/21/11       (S)       STA RPT CS  2DP 3NR    SAME TITLE                                                                      
02/21/11       (S)       DP: WIELECHOWSKI, MEYER                                                                                
02/21/11       (S)       NR: KOOKESH, PASKVAN, GIESSEL                                                                          
02/28/11       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/28/11       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/28/11       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/09/11       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL MORRIS, Appointee                                                                                                        
State of Alaska Parole Board                                                                                                    
Soldotna, AK,                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the State of                                                                   
Alaska Parole Board.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM GRANGER, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association                                                                                
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                    
Governors of the Alaska Bar Association.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
THERESA OBERMEYER, representing herself                                                                                         
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointment                                                               
of Mr. Granger.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KELLY ALZAHARNA, Appointee                                                                                                      
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
Barrow, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Alaska Police                                                              
Standards Council.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TERRY VRABEC, Director                                                                                                          
Alaska Police Standards Council (APSC)                                                                                          
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Provided   information  related  to  APSC                                                             
process and procedures.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA HAMON, Appointee                                                                                                        
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
King Salmon, AK                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as  appointee to the Alaska Police                                                             
Standards Council.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BERNICE TROGLIO, Appointee                                                                                                      
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                                 
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as  appointee to the Alaska Police                                                             
Standards Council                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLIS   FRENCH  called  the  Senate   Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at  1:30  p.m.  Senators  Paskvan,                                                               
McGuire, Coghill,  Wielechowski, and  French were present  at the                                                               
call to order.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^Confirmation Hearing: State of Alaska Parole Board                                                                             
                     CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                    
                  State of Alaska Parole Board                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH announced  the  first order  of  business would  be                                                               
confirmation hearings. He asked Mr.  Morris to tell the committee                                                               
about himself  and why he wants  to serve on the  State of Alaska                                                               
Parole Board.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL  MORRIS,   Appointee,  State   of  Alaska   Parole  Board,                                                               
Soldotna, AK, stated  that this is his first week  serving on the                                                               
Parole Board; he  is impressed with the quality  of personnel and                                                               
excited about the  job. He informed the committee that  he has 23                                                               
years  experience in  law enforcement;  three  years as  military                                                               
police and  20 years with  the Kenai Police Department,  the last                                                               
nine  of which  he  served  as the  chief  of  police. He's  been                                                               
retired  for more  than eight  years  and looks  forward to  this                                                               
important opportunity.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH asked  how large  the Kenai  Police Department  was                                                               
when he served as chief of police.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORRIS replied there were  25 employees. During his time with                                                               
the department he  served on the Alaska  Police Standards Council                                                               
for one four-year term, two and  one half as chair. He added that                                                               
he  has  a bachelor's  degree  in  criminology and  an  associate                                                               
degree in criminal justice administration.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH reviewed Mr. Morris'  resume and asked if during the                                                               
time he served  on the Kenai force, he had  occasion to appear at                                                               
Parole Board hearings.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MORRIS replied  that as  an officer  his only  contacts were                                                               
with  the  Department of  Corrections  (DOC)  itself through  the                                                               
Wildwood pretrial  facility. As chief he  attended peninsula-wide                                                               
law enforcement  meetings and he interacted  with parole officers                                                               
at the Kenai office as they  worked to revoke probation. He added                                                               
that the board currently meets  at the Parole Board office, which                                                               
is next to the J.C. Penny parking garage.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  PASKVAN  asked  about  his philosophy  and  approach  to                                                               
service on the Parole Board.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORRIS replied public safety is  his number one focus, and he                                                               
is aware that  everyone who appears before the  Parole Board will                                                               
at  some point  reenter  the community.  These  people should  be                                                               
treated  with respect  and held  accountable  for their  actions,                                                               
while  ensuring that  the  best  interest of  the  state and  its                                                               
citizens are considered.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH thanked Mr. Morris for stepping forward to serve.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   MCGUIRE   reviewed   his    resume   and   asked   what                                                               
recommendations he made to revise  the Alaska Administrative Code                                                               
pertaining to the Alaska Police  Standards Council when he served                                                               
on the council and if they were adopted and finalized into law.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORRIS apologized that he didn't recall.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE stated  that  Mr. Morris  is  well qualified  to                                                               
serve. She provided her email for further communication.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH found no further questions and solicited a motion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:39:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved  to advance the name  Daniel Morris to                                                               
the joint  session of  the Senate and  House for  confirmation to                                                               
the State  of Alaska Parole  Board. There being no  objection, it                                                               
was so ordered.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                   SB  61-2011 REVISOR'S BILL                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:40:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH announced the consideration  of SB 61 and noted that                                                               
it   was  heard   previously.  [CSSB   61(STA)  was   before  the                                                               
committee.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  moved to  report CS for  SB 61,  version I,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  announced  that without  objection,  CSSB  61(STA)                                                               
moved from the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
At ease from 1:41 p.m. to 1:42 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
^Confirmation  Hearing:  Board of  Governors  of  the Alaska  Bar                                                               
Association                                                                                                                     
                     CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                    
        Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH announced  the next  order of  business would  be a                                                               
confirmation hearing  for William Granger  to serve on  the Board                                                               
of Governors of the Alaska  Bar Association. He asked Mr. Granger                                                               
to tell  the committee about  himself and his  continued interest                                                               
in serving.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:42:52 PM                                                                                                                    
WILLIAM GRANGER, Appointee, Board of  Governors of the Alaska Bar                                                               
Association, stated that  he is a lifelong  resident of Anchorage                                                               
and a banker  by profession. He served on the  Board of Governors                                                               
for nine years and has been off for about one and a half years.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked if during his  nine year of service any issues                                                               
particularly stand out.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRANGER  replied it  was  a  busy nine  years;  disciplinary                                                               
procedures were  streamlined, a free  online research  system for                                                               
the  membership was  developed, rules  were tweaked  and changed,                                                               
and the annual budget was balanced.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH pointed out that  he was first nominated by Governor                                                               
Knowles,   reappointed  by   Governor  Murkowski,   and  now   is                                                               
renominated by  Governor Parnell. The  Board of Governors  of the                                                               
Alaska Bar has  12 members, three are  non-attorneys appointed by                                                               
the governor and  nine are active bar members who  are elected by                                                               
active bar  members. This means  that legislators  have influence                                                               
over  just the  three non-attorneys;  the  other nine  do not  go                                                               
through this confirmation process.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He  asked Mr.  Granger if  his work  duties at  Wells Fargo  Bank                                                               
would interfere with his duties on the Board of Governors.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER replied  the bank is very supportive  of his decision                                                               
to serve and there would be no problems.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH explained  to Mr.  Granger that  the teleconference                                                               
equipment  wasn't working  properly and  he wouldn't  be able  to                                                               
stay  connected  telephonically   while  Theresa  Obermeyer  gave                                                               
testimony  in  opposition to  his  nomination,  but he  would  be                                                               
reconnected  after that  to provide  any rebuttal  statements. He                                                               
told Mr. Granger he could watch  and listen to the live stream at                                                               
AlaskaLegislature.tv.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:47:44 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease to connect the public testifier.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  reconvened the hearing  and asked Ms.  Obermeyer to                                                               
put herself on the record and begin her testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:48:52 PM                                                                                                                    
THERESA OBERMEYER,  representing herself,  said she  regrets that                                                               
she didn't hear Mr. Granger's  opening statement. She stated that                                                               
she knows Mr. Granger and she  didn't believe that he had changed                                                               
his prejudiced views.  She asked if Mr. Granger  was listening to                                                               
her comments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  explained the teleconference difficulties  and said                                                               
he may be listening to the web stream.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. OBERMEYER  continued her  testimony and  expressed discontent                                                               
with the  Alaska Bar exam  process and procedures.  She expressed                                                               
her  belief  that  Mr.  Granger  will  be  interested  in  asking                                                               
questions  and starting  creative  thinking as  a  member of  the                                                               
Board of Governor of the  Alaska Bar Association. Public advocacy                                                               
doesn't exist, she stated.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:57:02 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease to reconnect Mr. Granger.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  asked Mr. Granger  if he  would like to  respond to                                                               
anything Ms. Obermeyer said.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER declined comment.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE thanked Mr. Granger for his service.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:58:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MCGUIRE moved to advance  the name William Granger to the                                                               
joint session  of the  Senate and House  for confirmation  to the                                                               
Board of Governors of the  Alaska Bar Association. There being no                                                               
objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
At ease from 1:59 p.m. to 2:00 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:00:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH asked  Ms. Alzaharna  to tell  the committee  about                                                               
herself  and  her  interest  in  serving  on  the  Alaska  Police                                                               
Standards Council.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  ALZAHARNA, Appointee,  Police Standards  Council, informed                                                               
the  committee that  she  is  the North  Slope  Borough chief  of                                                               
police in Barrow.  She has been in law enforcement  for 23 years,                                                               
21 of which  have been in Barrow. She has  always been interested                                                               
in maintaining  integrity and high  standards in  law enforcement                                                               
throughout  the state  and her  service on  the Police  Standards                                                               
Council since 2009 has been a mechanism to achieve that goal.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH asked  if  she had  gone  through the  confirmation                                                               
process  before  or  if  she  was placed  on  the  board  pending                                                               
confirmation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALZAHARNA replied  this is the first time  she's been through                                                               
the confirmation process.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  her  to  tell  the  committee  why  she  is                                                               
interested in police  standards and what her  experience has been                                                               
since she began serving.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ALZAHARNA explained  that  early in  her  career she  became                                                               
involved  in training  police  officers  to be  safe  and have  a                                                               
better  relationship with  the public.  The  North Slope  Borough                                                               
Police  Department hired  her  from New  Mexico  and within  nine                                                               
months  she was  promoted to  establish a  training unit  for the                                                               
department.  She  has  also  worked  with  other  departments  to                                                               
address  the   issues  that  make   it  difficult  to   meet  law                                                               
enforcement standards  in rural communities. Since  she's been on                                                               
the board, the bulk of the  work has been to review pending cases                                                               
certifications and decertifications.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:03:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH asked  if during her time on the  council, she'd had                                                               
to take decertification votes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALZAHARNA said yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked how she approaches that.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ALZAHARNA  explained that  it's  typically  a slow  process.                                                               
There's been an investigation and  the director updates the board                                                               
along the way as to the  status of the pending decertification so                                                               
there's adequate  information to  make a  good decision  when the                                                               
time comes. Nonetheless, it's a  difficult decision and she takes                                                               
the  process  seriously  because decertification  likely  ends  a                                                               
career.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:04:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH asked  how likely is would be that  a person who has                                                               
been  decertified in  one state  could get  a police  certificate                                                               
somewhere else.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ALZAHARNA  replied  she couldn't  speak  to  the  likelihood                                                               
because each  state is different,  and she isn't sure  if another                                                               
state  would recognize  that  a person  had  been decertified  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH   observed  that  people   in  the   audience  were                                                               
indicating  that decertification  is a  death knell  to a  police                                                               
career. He asked how often the police council meets.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ALZAHARNA  answered  twice  a  year;  once  in  December  in                                                               
conjunction with  the executive  development conference  and once                                                               
in  conjunction  with  the   Alaska  Peace  Officers  Association                                                               
conference. She  added that  she has  attended three  meetings so                                                               
far and the experience has been agreeable.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:05:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked  why both the police  officer positions she                                                               
held in New Mexico were so short.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALZAHARNA  explained that she  had a college degree  when she                                                               
got  the job  with  the  Las Cruces  Police  Department, but  she                                                               
didn't earn enough money to get  off food stamps. She switched to                                                               
work for  the university  police department  because the  pay was                                                               
about  $100  more  per  month   and  she  could  take  additional                                                               
university courses  for free. Having  higher aspirations  than to                                                               
live on  food stamps, she applied  for a position with  the North                                                               
Slope  Borough  Police Department  when  it  was brought  to  her                                                               
attention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked why she decided  to return to school in May                                                               
2005 to get  a Masters of Arts in  organizational leadership. She                                                               
further asked where Azusa Pacific University (APU) is located.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALZAHARNA  replied it's located  in Azusa,  California, which                                                               
is a  suburb of  Los Angeles.  The program  was a  combination of                                                               
distance-education and on-campus, so she  was on campus two weeks                                                               
each  semester.   She  selected  the   organizational  leadership                                                               
program  because  it would  be  useful  across disciplines.  This                                                               
continuing  education was  in addition  to the  bachelor's degree                                                               
she received in 1985.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE asked  if she  was  aware of  the conviction  of                                                               
former   Anchorage  Police   Department  (APD)   Officer  Anthony                                                               
Rollins.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALZAHARNA answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE  highlighted a  similar case  in the  North Slope                                                               
Borough  of a  police officer  using his  badge and  authority to                                                               
rape  women, and  asked if  it's been  a priority  on the  Police                                                               
Standards Council  to discuss training procedures  to keep police                                                               
officers from  using the power  of their badge for  sexual abuse.                                                               
Senator  McGuire  expressed  extreme   concern  that  both  cases                                                               
involved  multiple rapes,  and one  resulted  in the  death of  a                                                               
young woman  in Western  Alaska. She asked  Ms. Alzaharna  if she                                                               
too was concerned  and what the Police  Standards Council intends                                                               
to do about this.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:11:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ALZAHARNA  replied she is  very concerned and she  deals with                                                               
those types  of issues  on day-to-day  basis. The  NSBPD provides                                                               
training  for  officers  and she  makes  her  expectations  about                                                               
officer performance  and behavior  very clear. There  hasn't been                                                               
an overall  discussion on that  topic since she began  serving on                                                               
the Police Standards Council, but it is warranted, she said.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked Ms. Alzaharna  to take a leadership role on                                                               
this topic, and said she would  follow up with a written request.                                                               
Improved   training  is   needed  for   all  members   to  better                                                               
understand: how people get off  the path; the temptation to abuse                                                               
power; the warning  signs that fellow officers can  look for; the                                                               
procedure  for  reporting  to superiors;  and  that  young  women                                                               
should  be informed  of their  rights when  they suspect  that an                                                               
officer is  abusing his power  and authority. We need  to provide                                                               
training so that the young men  and women who are serving proudly                                                               
and with  honor aren't  embarrassed by  their few  colleagues who                                                               
fall into those conundrums, she stated.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:13:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ALZAHARNA  agreed  that  that sort  of  training  should  be                                                               
available  at all  department  levels, and  that  the APSC  could                                                               
certainly move that task to a higher priority.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  if  APSC   will  decertify  former  Officer                                                               
Rollins.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALZAHARNA deferred to the council director.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:14:35 PM                                                                                                                    
TERRY   VRABEC,  Director,   Alaska  Police   Standards  Council,                                                               
explained that  the criminal case is  over as of this  morning so                                                               
the council will be able to  act on its concerns and move forward                                                               
with the surrender of his certificate or decertification.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PASKVAN asked  if there will be an effort  to improve the                                                               
procedures  so that  potential problems  could be  identified and                                                               
weeded out early on, because  he suspects that warning signs were                                                               
overlooked in both cases.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VRABEC agreed  that sometimes  there  are signs  and it's  a                                                               
matter  of  whether or  not  they're  reported. Officers  at  the                                                               
Police Academy receive extensive  training in ethics and behavior                                                               
he  said,  but  it's  important  to keep  in  mind  that  between                                                               
corrections  and  police there  are  3,000  officers, and  a  few                                                               
potentially won't do their jobs  correctly. In the two cases that                                                               
were mentioned the officers definitely  went off the far end, but                                                               
as a  whole he believes the  officers in this state  perform very                                                               
well. He highlighted that  departments statewide make independent                                                               
decisions about  training and some conduct  extensive training in                                                               
this  area.  He noted  that  he  recently met  with  Commissioner                                                               
Masters' staff and APSC is  again working with the Police Academy                                                               
on additional training to determine  what can be done differently                                                               
to help officers make the right decisions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:17:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MCGUIRE  reiterated that she  would send a letter  to the                                                               
APSC asking  for more  thorough officer  training, and  she would                                                               
like  a written  response  memorializing  the verbal  commitments                                                               
made today. She asked if there  is an opportunity for officers to                                                               
anonymously report to a superior any  warning signs they see in a                                                               
fellow officer, and if there is a  way for a member of the public                                                               
who  has  been  arrested  to  make  a  request  for  a  follow-up                                                               
investigation without  fear of retribution. She  suggested that a                                                               
statement reaffirming the  importance of safety for  the women of                                                               
Alaska would help  women feel that APSC takes  this seriously and                                                               
is making an effort.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:20:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. VRABEC  said he would formally  put this topic on  the agenda                                                               
at  the next  council meeting  and he  would be  happy to  have a                                                               
follow-up meeting. He explained  that some agencies automatically                                                               
do extensive  background checks  as part  of the  hiring process,                                                               
but some smaller departments can't  afford that so the APSC helps                                                               
with some  of those costs. Psychological  and polygraph screening                                                               
on the  front-end has  certainly been  successful in  weeding out                                                               
potentially problematic officers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH found no further questions and asked for a motion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:21:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  moved to forward  the name  Kelly Alzaharna                                                               
to the joint session of the  Senate and House for confirmation to                                                               
the Alaska  Police Standards Council.  There being  no objection,                                                               
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:22:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH asked Ms. Hamon  to tell the committee about herself                                                               
and  her  interest in  serving  on  the Alaska  Police  Standards                                                               
Council.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA HAMON,  Appointee, Alaska Police Standards  Council, King                                                               
Salmon,  said  she  has  lived  and worked  in  this  small  Bush                                                               
community for  12 years. For  the past  two years she  has worked                                                               
for  Safe and  Fear Free  Environment, Inc.  (SAFE), an  advocacy                                                               
program for victims of sexual  assault and domestic violence. She                                                               
highlighted  that  the levels  of  domestic  violence and  sexual                                                               
assault  in the  state  and Southwest  Alaska  in particular  are                                                               
extremely high.  It's a common  problem throughout  the villages,                                                               
and she's come  to understand what a long  complicated process it                                                               
is for  victims to go  through the  judicial system. I  can bring                                                               
the victim's point of view to the council, she stated.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:25:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  pointed  out  that  the  Alaska  Police  Standards                                                               
Council  has  four   public  members  on  the   board,  two  from                                                               
communities with  populations of  2,500 or  less and  King Salmon                                                               
qualifies under  that standard. He  asked Ms. Hamon why  she came                                                               
to Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAMON  replied she  and her  husband came  to Alaska  in 1998                                                               
after he got a job as a scientist at Katmai National Park.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  asked what  prompted her  interest in  advocacy for                                                               
victims of domestic violence and sexual assault.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAMON said that after living  in the community for awhile she                                                               
began  to see  the problems  related to  alcohol and  drug abuse,                                                               
some  of  which  had  been ongoing  for  generations.  After  her                                                               
children were older  she began social service  volunteer work and                                                               
someone suggested she apply for  a job with the advocacy program.                                                               
After doing  some research,  she became  interested and  that was                                                               
the beginning.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:27:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  asked if she had  attended a meeting of  the Alaska                                                               
Police Standards Council.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAMON said no, but she had read about their work.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE  asked if  she  heard  the discussion  with  the                                                               
former applicant.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAMON said no because of teleconference difficulties.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE summarized  the discussion  with Mr.  Vrabec and                                                               
Chief Alzaharna.  He asked if she  was aware of the  Rollins case                                                               
and  if  she  had  any  thoughts  about  training  police  to  be                                                               
respectful of women and not using their badges for sexual abuse.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:30:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. HAMON  said she  did follow  the case in  the papers  and she                                                               
believes that it's  a very serious problem  that needs attention.                                                               
She  added that  while she  hasn't had  a bad  experience working                                                               
with  officers,  she   does  believe  that  there's   a  lack  of                                                               
understanding about  the effect  that a  male police  officer has                                                               
when  he is  interviewing a  woman  after a  sexual assault.  Her                                                               
experience at SAFE is that  in many instances the only interviews                                                               
that victims had were with two  male police officers in the room,                                                               
which  made it  difficult  to  tell their  story.  There isn't  a                                                               
female police officer  in this part of the state  and that can be                                                               
a problem.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH found no further questions and asked for a motion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved  to forward the name  Rebecca Hamon to                                                               
the joint  session of  the Senate and  House for  confirmation to                                                               
the Alaska  Police Standards Council.  There being  no objection,                                                               
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:31:55 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:32:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH reconvened  the meeting  and asked  Ms. Troglio  to                                                               
tell the committee  about her interest in continuing  to serve on                                                               
the Alaska Police Standards Council.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BERNICE  TROGLIO,  Appointee,  Alaska Police  Standards  Council,                                                               
Anchorage, stated  that she  has been on  the council  since 2008                                                               
and would like  to continue that service. She  explained that her                                                               
career as  a probation officer  (PO) began  in 1999. In  2000 she                                                               
was promoted to supervise the  sex offender mental health unit at                                                               
the Anchorage  probation office and  in 2009 she was  promoted to                                                               
her current position as the  statewide sex offender mental health                                                               
program manager  within the probation  and parole  division. When                                                               
she began  her career she  took an oath to  abide by the  code of                                                               
ethical professional conduct and she  said she lives by that code                                                               
both on  duty and off. She  said she has very  high standards and                                                               
believes that all law enforcement  officers should hold similarly                                                               
high  standards. The  mission  and vision  of  the Alaska  Police                                                               
Standards Council  appeared to be  a good  fit, and it  has been,                                                               
she  stated. It's  an honor  to serve  Alaska as  both a  council                                                               
member and a law enforcement officer, she concluded.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:36:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  pointed out  that  for  a  number of  years  she's                                                               
performed the somewhat overlapping  duties of a probation officer                                                               
IV and council member.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL thanked  Ms. Troglio  for her  work on  Internet                                                               
crimes against  children and  noted that this  is a  somewhat new                                                               
area for  the APSC. He  asked how  the police workforce  looks at                                                               
accountability  for the  officers  who have  to  deal with  those                                                               
rough circumstances.  He expressed  concern about  ruining police                                                               
officers who have to work in this difficult area.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. TROGLIO said the Internet  Crimes Against Children Task Force                                                               
is  currently developing  a committee  to  address standards  for                                                               
dealing with on the job trauma.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL said  he wanted to highlight that  issue in light                                                               
of what Senator  McGuire brought up, because officers  that do go                                                               
bad can cause a great deal of damage.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. TROGLIO  agreed that  it's devastating  for everyone  when an                                                               
officer doesn't abide by the code of ethics.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH told Ms. Troglio  about the running commentary today                                                               
on the  Rollins case and  the shock  the public has  expressed in                                                               
seeing a  male officer abuse  women. Senator McGuire  pointed out                                                               
the need for  officers to have an avenue to  report on a coworker                                                               
if necessary.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. TROGLIO stated agreement with the idea.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH found no further questions and solicited a motion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:42:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  moved to forward  the name  Bernice Troglio                                                               
to the joint session of the  Senate and House for confirmation to                                                               
the Alaska  Police Standards Council.  There being  no objection,                                                               
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:42:46 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair French adjourned the meeting at 2:42 p.m.                                                                                 

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