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04/22/2025 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SJR 16 FEDERAL ENSURING LASTING SMILES ACT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 16 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= SB 147 PHARMACIST PRESCRIPTION AUTHORITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      SENATE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                    
                         April 22, 2025                                                                                         
                           3:41 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Forrest Dunbar, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Cathy Giessel, Vice Chair                                                                                               
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                              
Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 16                                                                                                  
Urging the United States Congress to pass the Ensuring Lasting                                                                  
Smiles Act; and urging lawmakers to advocate for policies that                                                                  
guarantee equitable access to vital healthcare.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SJR 16 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 147                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the prescription and administration of drugs                                                                
and devices by pharmacists; relating to reciprocity for                                                                         
pharmacists; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 147                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PHARMACIST PRESCRIPTION AUTHORITY                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) GIESSEL BY REQUEST                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
03/26/25       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/26/25       (S)       HSS, L&C                                                                                               
04/15/25       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/15/25       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/15/25       (S)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
04/22/25       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 16                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: FEDERAL ENSURING LASTING SMILES ACT                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) GRAY-JACKSON                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
04/02/25       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/02/25       (S)       HSS                                                                                                    
04/10/25       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/10/25       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/10/25       (S)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
04/22/25       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ELVI GRAY JACKSON, District G                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SJR 16.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN BRUBAKER, representing self                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SJR 16.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ERIC HOLLAND, representing self                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 147.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
AIMEE YOUNG, representing self                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 147.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BRITTANY KARNS, representing self                                                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 147.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ASHLEY SCHABER, Chair                                                                                                           
Alaska Board of Pharmacy                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered a question on SB 147 concerning                                                                  
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BRANDY SEIGNEMARTIN, Executive Director                                                                                         
Alaska Pharmacists Association                                                                                                  
Eagle River, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered a question on SB 147 concerning                                                                  
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:41:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DUNBAR  called  the  Senate  Health  and  Social  Services                                                               
Standing Committee meeting  to order at 3:41 p.m.  Present at the                                                               
call to  order were  Senators Giessel,  Tobin, Hughes,  and Chair                                                               
Dunbar. Senator Claman arrived thereafter.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           SJR 16-FEDERAL ENSURING LASTING SMILES ACT                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:41:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DUNBAR   announced  the  consideration  of   SENATE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION NO. 16  Urging the United States Congress  to pass the                                                               
Ensuring  Lasting Smiles  Act; and  urging lawmakers  to advocate                                                               
for   policies  that   guarantee   equitable   access  to   vital                                                               
healthcare.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:14 PM                                                                                                                    
ELVI GRAY JACKSON, District G,  Alaska State Legislature, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, sponsor  of SJR  16 stated  that the  resolution supports                                                               
individuals with congenital anomalies  and birth defects who face                                                               
lifelong health challenges. Many  require multiple surgeries that                                                               
can cost  families up  to $100,000  out of  pocket and  are often                                                               
mischaracterized  as  cosmetic, despite  testimony  demonstrating                                                               
otherwise. She said by adopting  this resolution, the legislature                                                               
can  promote   fairness  in   health  care,   protect  vulnerable                                                               
populations,  and  send  a clear  message  to  the  congressional                                                               
delegation  that  the  state   prioritizes  health  outcomes  and                                                               
supports individuals in leading healthy, productive lives.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:43:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR opened public testimony on SJR 16.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIAN BRUBAKER,  representing self, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified                                                               
in support of SJR 16. He  explained that his only daughter Emily,                                                               
who testified  previously, has Hypohidrotic  Ectodermal Dysplasia                                                               
(HED). He  stated that  HED requires costly  dental care  that is                                                               
not covered  by private insurance  because it is  deemed cosmetic                                                               
under federal  law. He  said teeth are  essential for  speech and                                                               
nutrition and  should not  be deemed cosmetic.  He said  he found                                                               
out  that  his  daughter's  HED  is  hereditary  and  genetically                                                               
dominant, the  condition will affect  future generations.  SJR 16                                                               
will have a lasting effect on future generations.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:43:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN arrived at the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:45:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBR closed public testimony on SJR 16.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR solicited the will of the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:45:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL moved  to report SJR 16,  work order 34-LS0788\A,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:45:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR found no objection and  SJR 16 was reported from the                                                               
Senate Health and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:07 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
            SB 147-PHARMACIST PRESCRIPTION AUTHORITY                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   DUNBAR  reconvened   the   meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.  147 "An  Act relating  to the                                                               
prescription  and   administration  of   drugs  and   devices  by                                                               
pharmacists;  relating   to  reciprocity  for   pharmacists;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:47:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  speaking as sponsor  of SB 147  provided opening                                                               
comments  saying the  bill establishes  a  limited framework  for                                                               
pharmacist-provided  patient  care  services and  is  a  targeted                                                               
reform  focused on  improving access  to  care. SB  147 does  not                                                               
expand pharmacists'  scope of practice  beyond services  they are                                                               
already  educated and  trained  to provide,  nor  does it  permit                                                               
pharmacists  to  prescribe abortion-inducing  medications,  which                                                               
remains expressly  prohibited under current Alaska  law. She said                                                               
SB 147  allows pharmacists  to more  fully serve  patients within                                                               
clearly   defined  standards   of  competence   and  professional                                                               
accountability. She said the bill  is intended to increase access                                                               
to  basic care,  reduce  delays, ease  pressure  on primary  care                                                               
providers, lower  health care costs,  and improve  overall health                                                               
outcomes.  These  benefits  are supported  by  existing  research                                                               
previously reviewed by the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:49:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR opened public testimony on SB 147.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:50:10 PM                                                                                                                    
ERIC HOLLAND, representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska, testified in                                                               
support of SB  147. He stated that with Alaska  not having an in-                                                               
state  pharmacy program,  students  are trained  through a  joint                                                               
degree program  with Idaho State  University. The  university has                                                               
one  of  the  most  expansive   pharmacy  practice  statutes  and                                                               
regulations. He  said students are educated  to diagnose, assess,                                                               
treat, and  manage a range  of conditions and expect  to practice                                                               
at   that  level   after  graduation.   However,  Alaska's   more                                                               
restrictive  regulations  limit this  practice.  He  said he  has                                                               
worked in  settings that would  be affected by SB  147, including                                                               
community  pharmacy   point-of-care  testing  and   chronic  care                                                               
management. He  stated that he  currently works at  the Anchorage                                                               
Neighborhood  Health  Center, where  pharmacist-managed  diabetes                                                               
care has strong support from other health care providers.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:15 PM                                                                                                                    
AIMEE YOUNG,  representing self, Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
support  of  SB 147.  She  said  she nearly  has  20  years as  a                                                               
licensed pharmacist and has practiced  at the top of her training                                                               
through  the  Indian  Health Service.  She  pioneered  a  walk-in                                                               
pharmacy  immunization  clinic  in  2006  that  expanded  vaccine                                                               
access  and  increased  vaccination  rates.  More  recently,  she                                                               
specialized    in    pain    management,    collaborating    with                                                               
multidisciplinary teams to  provide high-quality, non-opioid care                                                               
that reduced opioid use. She  said as a trusted medication expert                                                               
and accessible health care provider,  she urged passage of SB 147                                                               
to allow pharmacists to better serve Alaskan communities.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:54:03 PM                                                                                                                    
BRITTANY KARNS,  representing self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified                                                               
in support  of SB 147.  She emphasized that  pharmacists complete                                                               
extensive training  through PharmD  programs and are  educated to                                                               
practice at  a high level  of clinical knowledge. Working  at the                                                               
Indian Health  Service Clinic in  Fairbanks, she  described being                                                               
regularly  sought out  by  physicians  for prescribing  guidance,                                                               
particularly where integrated clinical  pharmacy services are not                                                               
otherwise  available.  She  said pharmacists  practice  within  a                                                               
defined scope and  are not seeking to exceed it,  and rather work                                                               
fully within  the scope, consistent  with other  states. Granting                                                               
prescriptive  authority  within  that scope  would  help  address                                                               
provider  shortages,  relieve   physician  workload,  and  expand                                                               
access to care in Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:56:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR closed public testimony on SB 147.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:56:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR held SB 147 in committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:57:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  stated she  would like  to have  more information                                                               
from  the  sponsor  on  how   SB  147  would  affect  malpractice                                                               
insurance.  She opined  that it  would  be important  to know  if                                                               
malpractice insurance could be a problem.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:49 PM                                                                                                                    
ASHLEY  SCHABER,  Chair,  Alaska Board  of  Pharmacy,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, answered a  question on SB 147  concerning insurance. She                                                               
replied  that pharmacists  commonly carry  malpractice insurance,                                                               
either individually  or through  their employers. An  employer in                                                               
Idaho  reported   to  the  Board   of  Pharmacy   that  expanding                                                               
pharmacists'  scope of  practice  did not  result  in changes  to                                                               
malpractice  insurance.  She  said  as  with  other  health  care                                                               
professionals,  pharmacists   are  responsible   for  maintaining                                                               
appropriate malpractice coverage.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
BRANDY  SEIGNEMARTIN,  Executive   Director,  Alaska  Pharmacists                                                               
Association, Eagle River,  Alaska, answered a question  on SB 147                                                               
concerning  insurance. She  responded that  pharmacists do  carry                                                               
malpractice  insurance,  and  discussions  have  been  held  with                                                               
Pharmacists Mutual,  a major insurer,  regarding this  issue. She                                                               
offered to provide the committee  with a summary of the insurer's                                                               
considerations  and  emphasized  the  importance  of  pharmacists                                                               
maintaining their own malpractice coverage.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:00:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  commented on a  statement that,  "if malpractice                                                               
insurance is  expensive the legislature should  care." She stated                                                               
that this  isn't something the  Alaska legislature  regulates and                                                               
it should be regulated by  clinical professionals to determine if                                                               
they will  perform the expanded  services. Each  professional has                                                               
the option  to choose to  carry their own  malpractice insurance.                                                               
The legislature doesn't control malpractice insurance prices.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:02:13 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Dunbar adjourned the Senate Health and Social Services                                                                    
Standing Committee meeting at 4:02 p.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 147 & HB 195 - State Medical Board Opposition - 4.17.25.pdf SHSS 4/22/2025 3:30:00 PM
HB 195
SB 147