Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/30/1994 02:30 PM HES

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    SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                     
                         April 30, 1994                                        
                           2:30 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Steve Rieger, Chairman                                                
 Senator Bert Sharp, Vice-Chairman                                             
 Senator Loren Leman                                                           
 Senator Mike Miller                                                           
 Senator Jim Duncan                                                            
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
 Senator Judy Salo                                                             
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 409(FIN) am(efd fld)                                    
 "An Act relating to the maximum amount of assistance that may be              
 granted under the adult public assistance program and the program             
 of aid to families with dependent children; proposing a special               
 demonstration project within the program of aid to families with              
 dependent children and directing the Department of Health and                 
 Social Services to seek waivers from the federal government to                
 implement the project."                                                       
                                                                               
 HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 47 am                                              
 Relating to schools on military installations.                                
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 506(FIN) am                                             
 "An Act relating to student loans; to sanctions for defaulting on             
 a student loan, including denial of a state occupational license;             
 and providing for an effective date."                                         
                                                                               
 SENATE BILL NO. 346                                                           
 "An Act requiring that charitable gaming permittees, operators, and           
 vendors may not turn over a pull tab or bingo prize of $50 or more            
 to a person entitled to that prize unless the person provides                 
 certain information to the permittee, operator, or vendor and signs           
 a receipt for the prize; requiring the reporting of winners of                
 prizes of $50 or more to the Department of Health and Social                  
 Services to ensure that recipients of services provided by the                
 Department of Health and Social Services are reporting charitable             
 gaming winnings and are eligible for those services."                         
                                                                               
 HOUSE BILL NO. 472                                                            
 "An Act relating to referrals involving dental services."                     
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 478(HES) am                                             
 "An Act relating to the authority of mobile intensive care                    
 paramedics, physician assistants, and emergency medical technicians           
 to pronounce death under certain circumstances."                              
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 507(FIN)                                                
 "An Act relating to licensure by the State Medical Board and                  
 temporary permits for certain optometrists."                                  
                                                                               
 SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 54                          
 Relating to medical savings account legislation.                              
                                                                               
 HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 52                                                 
 Urging the Congress to amend the Social Security Act so that the              
 higher cost of living in Alaska is reflected when the per capita              
 income of the state is used as a factor in determining the federal            
 share of Medicaid costs.                                                      
                                                                               
 HOUSE BILL NO. 324                                                            
 "An Act extending the termination date of the Board of Dental                 
 Examiners; and providing for an effective date."                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                             
                                                                               
 HB 409 - See Health, Education & Social Services minutes dated                
          4/18/94.                                                             
                                                                               
 HJR 47 - No previous action to record.                                        
                                                                               
 HB 506 - See Health, Education & Social Services minutes dated                
          4/25/94.                                                             
                                                                               
 SB 346 - See Labor & Commerce minutes dated 3/31/94 and Health,               
          Education & Social Services minutes dated 4/15/94, 4/18/94           
          and 4/25/94.                                                         
                                                                               
 HB 472 - See Health, Education & Social Services minutes dated                
          4/15/94, 4/18/94 and 4/25/94.                                        
                                                                               
 HB 478 - See Health, Education & Social Services minutes dated                
          4/25/94.                                                             
                                                                               
 HB 507 - See Health, Education & Social Services minutes dated                
          4/25/94.                                                             
                                                                               
 HJR 54 - See Health, Education & Social Services minutes dated                
          4/15/94, 4/18/94 and 4/25/94.                                        
                                                                               
 HJR 52 - No previous action to record.                                        
                                                                               
 HB 324 - No previous action to record.                                        
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
 Michelle Toohey, Legislative Assistant                                        
 Representative Hanley                                                         
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Not opposed to the HESS CS.                            
                                                                               
 Curt Lomas, Division of Public Assistance                                     
 Department of Health & Social Services                                        
 P.O. Box 110640                                                               
 Juneau, Alaska 99811-0640                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Expressed concerns with section 7 and 8 of             
                      HB 409.                                                  
                                                                               
 Representative Eldon Mulder                                                   
 Prime Sponsor                                                                 
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed HJR 47.                                       
                                                                               
 Dennis Porter, Executive Officer                                              
 Task Force Member                                                             
 1700 7th Street Unit B                                                        
 Elmendorf AFB, Alaska 99506                                                   
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed HJR 47.                                       
                                                                               
 Representative Gary Davis                                                     
 Prime Sponsor                                                                 
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed HB 472.                                       
                                                                               
 Eric Forrer, Member                                                           
 University of Alaska Board of Regents                                         
 Post Secondary Education Commission                                           
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Urged passage of HB 506.                               
                                                                               
 Joe McCormick, ACPE                                                           
 3030 Vintage Boulevard                                                        
 Juneau, Alaska 99801                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Supports HB 506                                         
                                                                               
 Roxanne Rohweder, Staff to Representative                                     
   Jim Nordlund                                                                
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, AK 99801-1182                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Offered information on HJR 52                          
                                                                               
 Jack Phelps, Staff to Representative Pete Kott                                
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, AK 99801-1182                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Offered information on SSHJR 54                        
 Representative Gene Therriault                                                
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, AK 99801-1182                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Prime Sponsor of HB 478                                
                                                                               
 Mark Johnson, Chief, Emergency Medical                                        
   Services                                                                    
 Division of Public Health                                                     
 Department of Health & Social Services                                        
 P.O. Box 110616                                                               
 Juneau, AK 99811-0616                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in support of HB 478                         
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-35, SIDE A                                                            
 Number 003                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER called the Senate Health, Education and Social                
 Services (HESS) Committee to order at 2:30 p.m.  He introduced                
  HB 409  (AFDC DEMO PROJECT AND DECREASE) as the first order of               
 business.  He noted that there was a proposed HESS CS which would             
 delete the statutory reductions in AFDC and APA and incorporates              
 other minor changes.                                                          
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved to adopt the HESS CS, the 8-LS1211\S version,            
 in lieu of the original bill.  Hearing no objections, the CS was              
 adopted.                                                                      
                                                                               
 MICHELLE TOOHEY, Legislative Assistant to Representative Hanley,              
 stated that they did not have any opposition to the CS.                       
                                                                               
 CURT LOMAS, Division of Public Assistance in the Department of                
 Health and Social Services, said that he was representing Jan                 
 Hansen.  He addressed Sections 7 and 8 which would cap the amount             
 of payments in AFDC and APA at the levels in effect in 1992.  He              
 stated that there was a problem with the language tying benefit               
 levels to January of 1992 because of the restructuring of the                 
 standards in last years bill.  He did not believe that Sections 7             
 and 8 were necessary.                                                         
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER explained that those sections were present in order           
 to conform to the title.  He asked if Mr. Lomas had conforming                
 language to offer.  CURT LOMAS suggested that they change the dates           
 in sections 7 and 8 to October 1993 which would eliminate the                 
 technical problem.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 085                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved to adopt the amendment changing the date from            
 "January 1992" to "October 1993."  Hearing no objections, it was              
 adopted.                                                                      
 CURT LOMAS pointed out another issue with Section 8.  He explained            
 that existing language under HB 67 makes cost of living awards                
 contingent upon specific appropriations by the Legislature for that           
 purpose.  Section 8 appears to conflict with that provision which             
 seems to indicate a potential problem.                                        
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if Mr. Lomas had suggested language to                  
 address that problem.  Chairman Rieger asked if Mr. Lomas was in              
 doubt to the possibility of a problem regarding this issue.  CURT             
 LOMAS said that he was not certain that there was a problem, but he           
 thought that he could propose some language if given some time.               
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER set HB 409 aside in order to give Mr. Lomas time to           
 come up with language to speak to this problem in Section 8.                  
                                                                               
 Number 127                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  HJR 47  (FUNDS TO UPGRADE MILITARY BASE           
 SCHOOLS) as the next order of business before the committee.                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELDON MULDER, Prime Sponsor, said that the Military            
 Schools Task Force evaluated the problem of lack of repairs and               
 repair funding for the school base schools.  There is approximately           
 a $52 million backload of work needed to bring these schools up to            
 minimal standards.  He explained that the municipalities within               
 which the schools reside are not allowed to bond for the upgrades             
 of these schools since they do not own the schools while the school           
 districts are hesitant to transfer or accept ownership of the                 
 schools until they are upgraded.  HJR 47 along with a $26 million             
 appropriation bill would attempt to cooperatively reach an                    
 agreement between the state and the federal government in order to            
 address this problem.  He pointed out that they would propose a 50-           
 50 match between the state and federal government.  The federal               
 government has allocated $10 million towards these type schools               
 nation wide.  HJR 47 and some funding from the budget would work              
 towards securing the funds needed to upgrade these schools.                   
                                                                               
 DENNIS PORTER, Executive Officer to General Ralston and member of             
 the Task Force, said that this resolution would be used to lobby              
 the federal government in order to free up funds from them.  He               
 pointed out that the current Deputy Secretary of Education,                   
 Madeline Cunin, will be coming to Alaska to see the problems on               
 school base installation facilities.  Hopefully, she will                     
 acknowledge the problems, realize the slowness of the funding,                
 recognize that Alaska is trying to satisfy the immediate needs                
 while looking to the long term.  He encouraged the committee's                
 support of HJR 47.                                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN inquired as to Representative Mulder's comment                  
 regarding funding from the budget this year.  He expressed concern            
 with the inability to identify an amount from the $10 million that            
 would be available in Alaska.  He said that he did not see                    
 references to the military schools task force in HJR 47, and he               
 asked if that is an intentional omission.                                     
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE MULDER explained that the 50-50 match was not                  
 included in HJR 47, the appropriations bill was the 50-50 match.              
 The omission was intentional in order to recognize budgetary                  
 constraints, but everything would be done to try to provide that              
 match.  He felt that the match was a reasonable alternative.  He              
 noted that this problem affects the security of these bases in                
 terms of evaluation.  They are trying to push some kind of funding            
 in the House.  He mentioned the Aurora school and its problem.                
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN thought that Representative Mulder had mentioned                
 funding this year on the 50-50 match.  REPRESENTATIVE MULDER noted            
 the presence of a proposal regarding some school construction                 
 money.                                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved HJR 47 as amended out of committee with                  
 individual recommendations.  Hearing no objections, it was so                 
 ordered.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 230                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  HB 472  (REFERRALS INVOLVING DENTAL               
 SERVICES) as the next order of business before the committee.                 
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS, Prime Sponsor, explained that HB 472               
 would deal with the problems encountered in the ethics code of the            
 Alaska Dental Society regarding referrals.  HB 472 would add a new            
 section to the statutes regarding the Board of Dental Examiners.              
 He pointed out that the section would merely codify the portion of            
 their ethics code which speaks to referrals.                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked if HB 472 would prevent a dentist who goes on             
 vacation from referring a patient to another dentist if that favor            
 is returned later.  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS stated that HB 472 would             
 only prohibit dentists from receiving compensation for a referral,            
 but it would not eliminate advertising or referrals.                          
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved HB 472 out of committee with individual                  
 recommendations.  Hearing no objections, it was so ordered.                   
                                                                               
 Number 278                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  HB 506  (STUDENT LOAN PROGRAM) as the             
 next order of business before the committee.                                  
                                                                               
 ERIC FORRER, Member of the University of Alaska Board of Regents              
 and Postsecondary Education Commission, explained that HB 506                 
 speaks to the Postsecondary Education Commission's primary                    
 responsibility of turning the student loan fund into a revolving              
 fund.  This fund is approximately $500 million in state investments           
 which should be self-supporting.  He indicated that the                       
 commission's goal was vigorous management of this fund.  He said              
 that with such high capital, it is easy to lose track of this bad             
 situation.  Strict management of this fund is necessary for the               
 long term.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Mr. Forrer mentioned that the portion of HB 506 which denies the              
 reissuance of a license by the state to an individual whose student           
 loan was in arrears.  He did not believe that discussion was about            
 the correct issue.  He felt that it would be more onerous not to              
 require people to be in good standing with their student loan than            
 to require it.  That would illustrate the commission's seriousness            
 about rigorous management of the fund.  He urged passage of HB 506.           
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER expressed concern with the first section of HB 506            
 regarding the denial of an occupational license.  He did not think            
 that any other lender in Alaska could go to the Department of                 
 Commerce and request for denial of an occupational license of a               
 borrower who is in default.  He suggested that on page 1, line 12             
 after "licensee," the following clause be inserted:  "and the                 
 balance owing on the loan is $100,000."  Super agencies with more             
 power than those of the lending community should not be created.              
 He also indicated concerns with the statutory provisions regarding            
 assigning wages for a defaulted loan.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 363                                                                    
                                                                               
 JOE MCCORMICK explained that the Alaska student loan program is a             
 non-collateralized loan.  He pointed out that this section speaks             
 to the renewal of a license not the initial license.  The section             
 is more like a concept, a reminder.  He noted that reminding an               
 individual that their Alaska student loan is in arrears when they             
 renew their occupational license is common practice in many other             
 states.  That would send a message to the borrower that the state             
 of Alaska is serious about the repayment of student loans.                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER inquired as to the ability of pursuing an individual           
 whose loan is in arrears through legal procedures.  JOE MCCORMICK             
 said that eventually that could happen.  A judgement or garnishment           
 of wages of the borrower could occur.  Mr. McCormick reiterated the           
 importance of sending the message to the bond market and the                  
 borrower that the state of Alaska does expect a borrower to repay             
 their loan.                                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER felt that the majority of non-payers are individuals           
 living outside of the state.  JOE MCCORMICK said that was not                 
 necessarily the case.  The percentage of individuals with                     
 occupational licenses who have delinquent loans are less than 10              
 percent.  Mr. McCormick explained that this would not be a                    
 mechanism in which to collect money.  He added that he was not                
 advocating this provision because he thinks it is going to collect            
 a lot of money for the Alaska Student Loan Program.  He is                    
 advocating as simply sending a message to the borrower, as well as            
 sending the message to the people that they receive their bonds               
 from, that they really are serious about making this a viable                 
 program and having sound financial integrity.                                 
 Number 418                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if the names of the delinquent borrowers are            
 published in the newspapers and JOE MCCORMICK acknowledged that               
 they are published.  Also, they have the power to garnish wages,              
 but that power is much more difficult for self-employed                       
 individuals.                                                                  
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER requested Mr. McCormick's comments on an amendment            
 that he was proposing which provides if the balance owing on a loan           
 is in excess of $100,000, it would trigger the denial of the                  
 occupational license.  JOE MCCORMICK responded that the important             
 thing is to get the legislation passed, and while he does not                 
 particularly favor the amendment, he believes it is important to              
 get it passed in some form.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 441                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP commented that he has extreme difficulty with the               
 amendment, and he wants to enhance the lowest cost method possible            
 to collect delinquent student loans.  To go through the court                 
 system is not cheap.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 451                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER moved the adoption of his proposed amendment.                 
 Senators Miller and Rieger voted "Yea" and Senators Sharp, Leman              
 and Duncan voted "Nay."  The motion failed.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 453                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that CSHB 506(FIN) am be passed out of                   
 committee with individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection,             
 it was so ordered.                                                            
 Number 458                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  CSHB 409(FIN) am(efd fld)  (PUBLIC                
 ASSIST. DEMO PROJECT & DECREASE) as the next order of business.  He           
 asked for Mr. Lomas' comments on a change to Section 8 in SCS CSHB
 409(HES) which was adopted by the committee on 4/18/94.                       
                                                                               
 CURTIS LOMAS, Division of Public Assistance, Department of Health             
 and Social Services, said he has discussed a  proposed change to              
 Section 8 with the bill drafter who agrees that it will take care             
 of the problem.  The amendment would delete the language                      
 "Notwithstanding AS 47.25.430 - 47.25.615" on page 5, line 16 and             
 replace it with "Except as provided in AS 47.25.430(b)."  He                  
 explained that is the section that provides for awarding of cost-             
 of-living increases, subject to appropriation for that purpose by             
 the Legislature.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 470                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to page 5,               
 line 16 of SCS CSHB 409(HES).  Hearing no objection, the Chairman             
 stated the amendment was adopted.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 480                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that SCS CSHB 409(HES), as amended, be passed            
 out of committee with individual recommendations.  Hearing no                 
 objection, it was so ordered.                                                 
 Number 482                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER brought  HJR 52  (DETERMINING FEDERAL SHARE OF                
 MEDICAID) before the committee as the next order of business.                 
                                                                               
 ROXANNE ROHWHEDER, staff to Representative Jim Nordlund, said                 
 currently, the federal government sets its medical assistance                 
 percentages based on each state's per capita income.  Those                   
 percentages range from 50 percent to 79 percent, with Alaska's                
 matching rate set at only 50 percent.  HJR 52 urges Congress to               
 amend the Social Security Act to take into account Alaska's high              
 cost of living, as well as its higher health costs.                           
                                                                               
 Number 503                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that HJR 52 be passed out of committee with              
 individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection, it was so                  
 ordered.                                                                      
 Number 506                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  SSHJR 54  (SUPPORT MEDICAL SAVINGS ACCT           
 LEGISLATION) as the next order of business.                                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
 JACK PHELPS, staff to Representative Pete Kott, explained that as             
 medical costs nationally and in Alaska continue to rise, the need             
 for innovative approaches to health care cost containment becomes             
 more acute.  Medical Savings Accounts (MSAs) offer an approach to             
 reducing health care costs that appeals to market forces and                  
 minimizes government intrusion into the market.  HJR 52 urges                 
 Congress to amend the U.S. Tax Code to make these medical savings             
 accounts work.                                                                
                                                                               
 Number 525                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that SSHJR 54 be passed out of committee with            
 individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection, it was so                  
 ordered.                                                                      
 Number 527                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER brought  CSHB 478(HES) am  (AUTHORITY TO PRONOUNCE            
 DEATH) before the committee.                                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GENE THERRIAULT, prime sponsor of HB 478, said the             
 legislation was introduced to allow mobile intensive care                     
 paramedics, physician assistants, and emergency medical technicians           
 to determine and pronounce death under certain circumstances.  It             
 provides that they may make a determination and pronouncement of              
 death upon determining that a person has suffered irreversible                
 cessation of circulatory and respiratory functions while a                    
 physician is not immediately available for consultation by radio or           
 telephone.  This will help emergency response teams to better                 
 attend to the emergency medical needs of Alaska.                              
                                                                               
 Number 557                                                                    
                                                                               
 MARK JOHNSON, Chief, Emergency Medical Services Section, Department           
 of Health and Social Services, stated the department's support for            
 HB 478.  He said the bill very clearly defines under what                     
 circumstances CPR can be stopped.                                             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER noted Craig Lewis of the Alaska EMS Association               
 was present to respond to questions.  There being none, he asked              
 for the pleasure of the committee.                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that CSHB 478(HES) am be passed out of                   
 committee with individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection,             
 it was so ordered.                                                            
 Number 567                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER brought  CSHB 507(FIN)  (LICENSING OF OPTOMETRISTS            
 AND PHYSICIANS) before the committee.  He  directed attention to a            
 proposed SCS CSHB 507(HES), that is identical to SB 298 which was             
 passed out of committee several weeks before.                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that SCS CSHB 507(HES) be adopted.  Hearing no           
 objection, the motion carried.                                                
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that CSHB 507(HES) be passed out of committee            
 with individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection, it was so             
 ordered.                                                                      
 Number 582                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER brought  SB 346  (REPORT CHARITABLE GAMING WINNERS)           
 before the committee as the next order of business.                           
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-35, SIDE B                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 573                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER said during a previous hearing on SB 346, there was           
 testimony asking for verification by photo identification to                  
 address a concern that people were claiming prizes under false                
 identification.  He then directed attention to a work draft                   
 committee substitute which addresses that concern.                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that CSSB 346(HES) be adopted.  SENATOR DUNCAN           
 objected.  A vote was taken with the following result:  Senators              
 Rieger, Miller, Sharp and Leman voted "Yea" and Senator Duncan                
 voted "Nay."  The Chairman stated the motion carried.                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that CSSB 346(HES) be passed out of committee            
 with individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection, it was so             
 ordered.                                                                      
 Number 563                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER brought  HB 324  (EXTEND BOARD OF DENTAL EXAMINERS)           
 before the committee as the final order of business.  There being             
 no witnesses wishing to testify on the legislation, he then asked             
 for the pleasure of the committee.                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved that HB 324 be passed out of committee with              
 individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection, it was so                  
 ordered.                                                                      
 There being no further business to come before the committee, the             
 meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.                                            
                                                                               

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