Legislature(2015 - 2016)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/18/2015 10:00 AM CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB72 AND HB73

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03:10:55 PM Start
03:20:01 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
= HB 72 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS
= HB 73 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET
Department Closeouts
- Dept. of Commerce, Community & Economic
Development
- Dept. of Natural Resources
- Dept. of Transportation & Public Facilities
- Legislature
- Fund Transfers
- Mental Health Capital
- Fiscal Notes
               29TH ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
                       FIRST SESSION                                                                                            
           CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB72 and HB73                                                                                
                      April 18, 2015                                                                                            
                         3:10 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:10:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman called the Conference Committee meeting on                                                                         
HB72 and HB73 to order at 3:10 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
House:                                                                                                                          
Representative Mark Neuman, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senate:                                                                                                                         
Senator Pete Kelly, Vice-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Anna MacKinnon                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
David Teal,  Director, Legislative Finance  Division; fiscal                                                                    
analysts  with  the  Office of  Management  and  Budget  and                                                                    
Legislative  Finance   Division;  and  aides   to  committee                                                                    
members and other members of the Legislature.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 72     APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 72 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 73     APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 73 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 72(FIN)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain programs and  capitalizing funds; and providing                                                                    
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 72(FIN) am S                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain  programs  and   capitalizing  funds;  amending                                                                    
     appropriations; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
and                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 73(FIN)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 73(FIN)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENTS                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY   AND   ECONOMIC                                                                    
     DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                            
    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                          
     LEGISLATURE                                                                                                                
     FUND TRANSFERS                                                                                                             
     MENTAL HEALTH CAPITAL BUDGET                                                                                               
     FISCAL NOTES                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
Chair Neuman communicated that  the committee would complete                                                                    
all  of   the  open  items   based  on  the   motion  sheets                                                                    
distributed  to  members earlier  in  the  day (dated  April                                                                    
17)(copy on file).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:11:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the  following items  for  the  Department of  Commerce,                                                                    
Community and Economic Development:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Item 5    Senate plus $1 million 250 thousand                                                                              
     Item 6    Senate minus $625.0 thousand                                                                                     
     Item 7    Senate minus $625.0 thousand                                                                                     
     Item 10   Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  OBJECTED. He understood that  the items                                                                    
had been tough; however, he  believed it was the responsible                                                                    
action  to  take  given the  state's  fiscal  situation.  He                                                                    
appreciated all  the collaborative work that  had been done.                                                                    
He WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO further  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The                                                                    
action closed all conferencable items  in the budget for the                                                                    
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:12:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the  following  items  for  the  Department  of  Natural                                                                    
Resources:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    On line 1, Senate                                                                                                
               On line 2, Senate and change fund source to                                                                      
         In-State Natural Gas Pipeline Fund, fund                                                                               
               code 1229                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:13:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for  the Department of Transportation                                                                    
and Public Facilities:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Item 28   House                                                                                                            
     Item 29   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 30   House                                                                                                            
     Item 31   House                                                                                                            
     Item 32   House                                                                                                            
     Item 33   House                                                                                                            
     Item 34   Senate for both fund sources                                                                                     
     Item 35   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 36   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 37   Senate for both fund sources                                                                                     
     Item 38   House                                                                                                            
     Item 39   House                                                                                                            
     Item 40   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 41   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 42   House                                                                                                            
     Item 43   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 44   House                                                                                                            
     Item 45   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 46   House                                                                                                            
     Item 47   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 48   House                                                                                                            
     Item 49   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 50   Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara OBJECTED. He stated that he was trying                                                                      
to read what had been picked for Item 42. He commented on                                                                       
the difficult font size of the backup document.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:15:00 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:15:52 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The                                                                        
action closed all conferencable items in the budget for the                                                                     
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:16:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly MOVED to ADOPT the Chair's recommendation                                                                      
on the following items for the Legislature's budget:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Item 10   Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:16:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items in the Fund Transfers budget:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    No selection is required. Decisions will be                                                                      
               made in Language Items 6 and 11.                                                                                 
     Item 2    No selection is required. Decisions will be                                                                      
               made in Language Items 6 and 11.                                                                                 
     Item 3    Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  OBJECTED. He commented that  the Senate                                                                    
version of the  budget had included the  withdrawal of funds                                                                    
from the Public  Education Fund. He was  trying to determine                                                                    
what Items  1 and  2 did  in relation  to the  withdrawal of                                                                    
funds.  Mr.  Teal explained  that  currently  the items  did                                                                    
nothing because  no decision had  been made;  therefore, the                                                                    
items did  not affect the  amount withdrawn or  deposited in                                                                    
any way.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked for  verification that  the issue                                                                    
remained open. Mr. Teal replied in the affirmative.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO further  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The                                                                    
action   closed   all   conferencable  items   within   Fund                                                                    
Transfers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:18:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the  following  items  for  the  Mental  Health  Capital                                                                    
Budget:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    House                                                                                                            
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
     Item 3    House                                                                                                            
     Item 4    Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items   for  the  Mental  Health                                                                    
Capital Budget.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:18:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FISCAL NOTES                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Kelly MOVED  to ADOPT  the fiscal  note document                                                                    
with the footer  "FY16 Fiscal Note Section of  HB72, Sec. 2"                                                                    
as Section 2 of HB 72.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly relayed that  Section 2 made appropriations                                                                    
associated with  the bills listed.  Additionally, if  a bill                                                                    
listed  failed   to  pass,  its   substance  failed   to  be                                                                    
incorporated in some other measure,  or it was vetoed by the                                                                    
governor, the appropriations associated  with the bill would                                                                    
be reduced.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara OBJECTED. He did  not believe all of the                                                                    
committee members had the  document referenced by Vice-Chair                                                                    
Kelly.  He  asked for  verification  that  the action  would                                                                    
adopt fiscal notes that had  passed and that fiscal notes in                                                                    
any vetoed bills would disappear.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  72  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  73  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Note: the  meeting was  recessed at 3:20  p.m. and  did not                                                                    
reconvene.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:20:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:20 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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