Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/04/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 146 REAA FUND: MT. EDGECUMBE, TEACHER HOUSING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 22 FINANCIAL LITERACY PROGRAM IN SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 6 ASIAN AMERICAN/PACIFIC ISLANDER PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
= HB 56 APPROP: SUPPLEMENTAL; FUND CAP
Scheduled but Not Heard
<Pending Referral>
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       April 4, 2025                                                                                            
                         9:46 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:46:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:46 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Liz  Harpold,  Staff,  Senator  Donny  Olson;  Senator  Bill                                                                    
Wielechowski,  Sponsor; Lauren  MacVay,  President and  CEO,                                                                    
True North Federal Credit  Union; Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson,                                                                    
Sponsor; Kaye Roldan, Self,  Juneau; Zander Kotlarov, Staff,                                                                    
Senator Gray-Jackson.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ross  Goble, Board  Member, Junior  Achievement Alaska;  Tim                                                                    
Sullivan, Executive Director,  Financial Reality Foundation;                                                                    
Katie  Capozzi,  President   and  Chief  Executive  Officer,                                                                    
Alaska  Chamber  of  Commerce, Anchorage;  Ray  Ward,  Self,                                                                    
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 6      ASIAN AMERICAN/PACIFIC ISLANDER PROGRAM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          SB 6 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                      
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 22     FINANCIAL LITERACY PROGRAM IN SCHOOLS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          SB 22 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 146    REAA FUND: MT. EDGECUMBE, TEACHER HOUSING                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          SB 146 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 56     APPROP: SUPPLEMENTAL; FUND CAP                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          HB 56 was SCHEDULED but not HEARD.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman discussed the agenda.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:47:05 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:47:53 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 146                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An   Act   relating   to  the   regional   educational                                                                    
     attendance  area and  small  municipal school  district                                                                    
     fund;  relating  to  Mt.  Edgecumbe  High  School;  and                                                                    
     relating to teacher housing."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:48:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman invited Liz Harpold to the table.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:48:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIZ  HARPOLD, STAFF,  SENATOR DONNY  OLSON, relayed  that SB
146 amended  the Regional  Education Attendance  Area (REAA)                                                                    
fund language to include  major maintenance and construction                                                                    
at  Mount Edgecumbe  High School  and major  maintenance for                                                                    
teacher  housing,  in  REAA or  small  municipal  areas,  as                                                                    
allowable uses for the fund.  Additionally, the bill removed                                                                    
the  $70 million  cap  on fund  value,  preventing any  fund                                                                    
balance above the amount form  lapsing into the general fund                                                                    
at the end  of the year. The bill  was previously introduced                                                                    
as  SB 113,  and had  passed the  Senate but  died in  House                                                                    
Finance Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:49:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:49:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:49:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  commented   that  MEHS  faced  difficulty                                                                    
dealing with  its maintenance. He  considered that  MEHS was                                                                    
the  only school  in  the state  that was  put  in with  the                                                                    
overall state  maintenance run  through DOT&PF,  which meant                                                                    
that the  school had  to compete  with other  state agencies                                                                    
for  maintenance  funding.  He  did  not  think  there  were                                                                    
maintenance advocates for the school.  He said that when the                                                                    
committee had  tried to fund  some of the  school's deferred                                                                    
maintenance in  the past, the  funds had been vetoed  by the                                                                    
governor   the  reason being that the school was  not on the                                                                    
maintenance list. He contended that  the school could not be                                                                    
on the  major maintenance  list and  the bill  would correct                                                                    
the matter. He could not speak  to how the school would rank                                                                    
with other  schools across the  state but believed  that the                                                                    
treatment of the school overall would be more equitable.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  cited high  levels of  student performance                                                                    
at MEHS. He stressed that  there were construction needs for                                                                    
teacher housing,  new dormitories, and classroom  spaces. He                                                                    
believed that the state could better serve the school.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:53:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl   addressed  a  new  fiscal   note  from  the                                                                    
Department   of  Education   and   Early  Development,   OMB                                                                    
Component  2737. The  department  requested $313.3  thousand                                                                    
and 2  new full-time positions  in FY2026, which  drops down                                                                    
to $297.3 in the out years.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  mentioned schools  throughout the  state that                                                                    
had student  or teacher  housing.   He wondered  whether the                                                                    
state could partner with  Alaska Housing Finance Corporation                                                                    
(AHFC)  to find  human resources  to provide  DEED with  the                                                                    
residential  design  and construction  expertise  necessary,                                                                    
rather   than   establishing   new  positions   within   the                                                                    
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB  146  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 22                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing a financial literacy education                                                                        
     program for public schools; and providing for an                                                                           
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:56:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BILL   WIELECHOWSKI,  SPONSOR,  related   that  the                                                                    
requirement  could   be  incorporated   into  a   number  of                                                                    
different  classes. He  cited that  Alaska had  some of  the                                                                    
worst  FAFSA  Free  Application   for  Federal  Student  Aid                                                                    
(FAFSA) completion  rates in the  country. He  reported that                                                                    
Alaskans carried and average of  $8,000 in credit card debt.                                                                    
He  noted that  nationwide, 55  percent of  people had  less                                                                    
than  $1,000 in  savings and  only one-third  could cover  a                                                                    
$400 expense comfortably.  He  thought it was incumbent upon                                                                    
Alaska's schools to teach budgeting  and basic principles of                                                                    
money management.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman thought  that the bill could  apply to many                                                                    
of the financial issues currently facing the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:58:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman   wondered  why  the  bill   had  not  been                                                                    
incorporated into other education reform legislation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski   relayed  that  he   would  certainly                                                                    
support the  incorporation of  the legislation  into another                                                                    
education  reform  bill  currently circulating  through  the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman noticed  the  specificity in  the bill  and                                                                    
referenced  page  2,  line   22  which  included  "financial                                                                    
implications of being a member  or a beneficiary of a Native                                                                    
Corporation," and  wondered whether the language  wasn't too                                                                    
specific.                                                                                                                       
Senator  Wielechowski relayed  that the  provision had  been                                                                    
added  the previous  year during  the committee  process. He                                                                    
said he  was open  to discussion  about modification  of the                                                                    
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:00:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ROSS  GOBLE, BOARD  MEMBER, JUNIOR  ACHIEVEMENT ALASKA  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  offered strong  support for  the bill.  He                                                                    
noted  that   over  50  percent   of  Alaska's   youth  felt                                                                    
underprepared   to  handle   their   financial  lives   into                                                                    
adulthood.  He   thought  the  bill  offered   a  pro-active                                                                    
solution   for  educating   Alaska's  future   on  financial                                                                    
literacy  and  would  provide them  tools  to  navigate  the                                                                    
financial world.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:03:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TIM   SULLIVAN,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   FINANCIAL   REALITY                                                                    
FOUNDATION  (via teleconference),  testified  in support  of                                                                    
the legislation.  He noted that  for the last 15  years, the                                                                    
Financial Reality  Foundation had  worked in high  school to                                                                    
educate students  on financial  literacy. He  looked forward                                                                    
to collaborating with the Department  of Education and Early                                                                    
Development (DEED) on the creating the curriculum.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:04:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LAUREN MACVAY, PRESIDENT AND CEO,  TRUE NORTH FEDERAL CREDIT                                                                    
UNION,  spoke  in ardent  support  of  the legislation.  She                                                                    
relayed that True  North Federal Credit Union  (TNFCU) had a                                                                    
webpage that  included financial wellness but  that the page                                                                    
was  not sought  by clients.  She felt  that the  curriculum                                                                    
should be brought to people in  order for them to engage and                                                                    
that  putting  the  information  in  classrooms  was  highly                                                                    
effective.  She  stressed  that  talking  about  fundamental                                                                    
financial  literacy would  lead  to a  deeper curiosity  and                                                                    
understanding of financial education.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:07:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:07:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATIE  CAPOZZI,  PRESIDENT   AND  CHIEF  EXECUTIVE  OFFICER,                                                                    
ALASKA CHAMBER OF  COMMERCE, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference),                                                                    
spoke in  support of the  bill. She stated  that introducing                                                                    
financial literacy  to young people would  benefit the whole                                                                    
of society. She noted that  there were many free or low-cost                                                                    
resources to support financial education  outlined in SB 22.                                                                    
She encouraged passage of the bill.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:09:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl addressed  a fiscal  note from  Department of                                                                    
Education and  Early Development, OMB Component  2796, which                                                                    
reflected a one-time cost of $76,000on FY2026.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  commented that  the fiscal  note could                                                                    
be significantly reduced.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB  22  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 6                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   requiring  education  in  the   history  and                                                                    
     contributions   of   Asian    Americans   and   Pacific                                                                    
     Islanders."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:11:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELVI  GRAY-JACKSON,   SPONSOR,  offered  a  sponsor                                                                    
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill 6  requires schools in the  State of Alaska                                                                    
     to educate  students on  the history  and contributions                                                                    
     of Asian Americans and Pacific  Islanders by our school                                                                    
     system acknowledging  historically accurate information                                                                    
     by  members of  these  communities, from  the past  and                                                                    
     present.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     This proposed piece of legislation  aims to mandate the                                                                    
     inclusion  of the  history and  contributions of  Asian                                                                    
     Americans  and  Pacific  Islanders in  Alaska's  public                                                                    
     schools. By incorporating  this critical component into                                                                    
     our  education  system,  we  welcome  a  more  informed                                                                    
     society  by   teaching  our  students   this  important                                                                    
     history  of  Alaska.  The   diverse  history  of  these                                                                    
     communities, including  their significant contributions                                                                    
     to Alaska and the United States, deserve to be                                                                             
     recognized and celebrated.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Senate  Bill   6  will  help  to   ensure  that  future                                                                    
     generations  of  Alaskans   have  a  comprehensive  and                                                                    
     accurate understanding  of our state's history  and the                                                                    
     contributions of all its people.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Gray-Jackson referenced  a  rise in  discrimination                                                                    
and  hate towards  the Asian  American and  Pacific Islander                                                                    
community during  the Covid-19  pandemic. She  believed that                                                                    
the legislation  would help to repair  such behavior through                                                                    
information and education.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Gray-Jackson continued  that  the bill  was a  step                                                                    
toward a  more complete and accurate  education for Alaska's                                                                    
students   and  strengthened   the  state's   commitment  to                                                                    
diversity, equity, and historical integrity.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:13:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick noted that the  bill established that school                                                                    
districts  shall  establish  and   provide  to  students  in                                                                    
kindergarten  through grade  12.  She  wondered whether  the                                                                    
children would have the program every year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Gray-Jackson  replied   that  each  district  shall                                                                    
                                                      th                                                                        
establish a program for grades kindergarten through 12.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:14:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman  wondered  whether  the  program  could  be                                                                    
included in  another education reform  bill and rely  on the                                                                    
funding appropriated for that bill.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gray-Jackson noted  that the bill had  a zero fiscal                                                                    
note and would not require additional funding.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:15:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Stedman    wondered   whether    the    historic                                                                    
contributions of other ethnic  groups were taught in schools                                                                    
under statute.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Gray-Jackson affirmed  that  the legislation  would                                                                    
add  education on  Asian American  and Pacific  Islanders to                                                                    
what was already being taught in schools.                                                                                       
Co-Chair Stedman thought  it would be nice  if Norse history                                                                    
and culture was taught in schools.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KAYE  ROLDAN,  SELF, JUNEAU,  testified  in  support of  the                                                                    
bill.  She was  a  co-director of  Make  Us Visible  Alaska,                                                                    
which was  a non-profit that empowered  local communities to                                                                    
integrate   Asian  American   and  Pacific   Islander  (API)                                                                    
contributions, experiences, and  history in K-12 classrooms.                                                                    
She shared that the  organization offered free materials for                                                                    
teaching API  history in classrooms.  She had been  a Juneau                                                                    
resident  for over  30 years  and  a student  in the  public                                                                    
school and  university systems. She explained  that, despite                                                                    
being  part of  a close-knit  Filipino community  in Juneau,                                                                    
she had not  been taught about Filipino  American history in                                                                    
her  local schools  or educational  experiences. She  shared                                                                    
that  a  college  course  was   her  first  experience  with                                                                    
learning  Filipino American  history. She  believed that  it                                                                    
was important  that the curriculum be  available to students                                                                    
K-12. She  stressed that seeing  your own  culture reflected                                                                    
in the  classroom gave student  pride in their  identity and                                                                    
empowered  them to  build  positive  self-images, which  was                                                                    
crucial for  student who  might struggle  with self-identity                                                                    
and self-worth. She added that  the legislation would foster                                                                    
cross-cultural  understanding and  an alternative  narrative                                                                    
to negative depictions of Asian Americans.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:20:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:20:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RAY  WARD, SELF,  ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), testified                                                                    
in  support  of  the  bill.  He  thought  it  was  of  vital                                                                    
importance that the  history of People of  Color be included                                                                    
in  school  curriculum.  He  thanked  the  sponsor  for  her                                                                    
efforts. Mr.  Ward shared a  concern that that  cultural and                                                                    
education  materials would  be  restricted  or removed  from                                                                    
classrooms  under  the  current federal  administration.  He                                                                    
worried that actions by the  Trump Administration would lead                                                                    
to the downfall of education in the country.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:25:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
Senator  Kiehl   reviewed  a  zero  fiscal   note  from  the                                                                    
Department   of  Education   and   Early  Development,   OMB                                                                    
Component 2796.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman wondered  about  what kind  of burden  the                                                                    
program would  put on school districts  both financially and                                                                    
timewise.  He worried  that there  were  ethnic groups  that                                                                    
might be  left out of  history like the  Russians, Japanese,                                                                    
Chinese, and Norse.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Gray-Jackson  relayed  her   staff  would  like  to                                                                    
address Senator Stedman's comments.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:26:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ZANDER KOTLAROV,  STAFF, SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON,  believed the                                                                    
bill  was  trying  to  address the  lack  of  ethnic  groups                                                                    
representation in  historical teachings.  He noted  that the                                                                    
term Asian American and Pacific  Islander encompassed a wide                                                                    
variety of ethic  groups and groups from all  over the world                                                                    
that were not currently represented in history classes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gray-Jackson  asked whether the committee  desired a                                                                    
review of the committee substitute.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  noted that the  bells had rung,  and floor                                                                    
session  would soon  be underway.  He relayed  that Co-Chair                                                                    
Olson's office would set the deadline for amendments.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SB  6   was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee   for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:28:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:28 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 22 Sponsor Statement 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 2/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 22
SB 22 Sectional Anaylsis 02.12.2024.pdf SEDC 2/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 22
SB 22 Presentation 02.12.2025.pdf SEDC 2/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 22
SB 22 Supporting Documents Ramsey Solutions 2022 Study 2025.03.05.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 22
SB 22 Letters of Support 2025.03.05.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 22
SB 22 Supporting Documents Junior Achievement 2025.03.05.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 22
SB 6 DEED-SSA-032825.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 6
SB 6 SHI LOS - Senate Bill 6 on AAPI Inclusion in Alaska K-12 Classrooms.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 6
SB 6 Support Letter Brawley_3-25-25.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 6
SB 6 Sponsor Statement Version N.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 6
SB 6 Sectional Analysis Version N.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 6
SB 146 EED SFF 032925.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 146
SB 146 Sponsor Statement Version A 04.02.2025.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 146
SB 146 Sectional Analysis Version A 04.02.2025.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 146
SB 146 Support Document - Backlog Chart 04.03.25.pdf SFIN 4/4/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 146