Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/31/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:02:56 AM Start
09:03:49 AM Consideration of Governor's Appointees: State Assessment Review Board – Sam Laffey
09:13:55 AM SB57
09:19:50 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
State Assessment Review Board - Sam Laffey
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= SB 57 APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 31, 2025                                                                                            
                         9:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:02:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel; David Scott, Staff, Senator Bert                                                                         
Stedman.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Samuel Laffey, Appointee, State Assessment Review Board,                                                                        
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 57     APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL/FUNDS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          SB 57 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CONSIDERATION OF GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES: STATE ASSESSMENT                                                                        
REVIEW BOARD  SAM LAFFEY                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed the agenda. He noted that                                                                            
Senator Cathy Giessel was present. He noted that the                                                                            
committee   had  two   items   on   the  agenda,   including                                                                    
consideration  of  the  governors  appointee  to  the  State                                                                    
Assessment   Review  Board.   After  consideration   of  the                                                                    
appointee, the  committee would take  up SB 57,  the capital                                                                    
budget. He would look to  the committee to consider adoption                                                                    
of a committee substitute (CS).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^CONSIDERATION  OF GOVERNOR'S  APPOINTEES: STATE  ASSESSMENT                                                                  
REVIEW BOARD  SAM LAFFEY                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:03:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked the  appointee to  introduce himself                                                                    
and provide his background, as  well as his understanding of                                                                    
the  position and  why he  wanted  the job.  He thanked  the                                                                    
appointee for his willingness to serve the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:04:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAMUEL  LAFFEY, APPOINTEE,  STATE  ASSESSMENT REVIEW  BOARD,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),   introduced  himself  and                                                                    
discussed his  background. He lived  in Anchorage and  was a                                                                    
lawyer  by training  and  trade.  He had  a  law degree  and                                                                    
Masters   of   Business   Administration  (MBA)   from   the                                                                    
University of Wyoming. He had  practiced law for almost five                                                                    
years and  currently worked for  the state in the  Office of                                                                    
Public Advocacy. He  was interested in serving  on the State                                                                    
Assessment Review Board  due to his passion for  oil and gas                                                                    
work and  his financial background.  He thought he  would be                                                                    
an asset  to the board, its  members, and work for  the best                                                                    
interests of the  citizens of the state. He  felt honored to                                                                    
be considered.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Laffey   continued  to   discuss  his   background  and                                                                    
thoughts.  He  assessed the  function  of  the board,  which                                                                    
considered  initial appeals  from the  oil and  gas tax  and                                                                    
pipeline tax appeals after an  assessment and evaluation had                                                                    
been  determined  by the  Department  of  Revenue (DOR).  He                                                                    
thought  the  board was  generally  considered  a finder  of                                                                    
fact, which  generally significant  review of  the financial                                                                    
record,  the  posing of  questions,  and  coming up  with  a                                                                    
factual  basis  for a  decision.  He  thought the  decisions                                                                    
could ultimately be considered  by the Alaska Superior Court                                                                    
and then potentially the Alaska Supreme Court.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:07:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl thanked Mr. Laffey  for his public service and                                                                    
willingness  to  volunteer.  He asked  him  to  discuss  his                                                                    
background in assessing real  estate values, whether through                                                                    
construction or appeals.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Laffey  relayed that he  had taken a couple  of property                                                                    
law  classes  while in  law  school  and had  some  laymens                                                                     
experience  from looking  at  hundreds  of houses  including                                                                    
commercial properties  around the  country in the  course of                                                                    
his life.  He was  fairly familiar with  statutes pertaining                                                                    
to the  process for  assessments and  property taxes  in the                                                                    
state,  but it  had not  been his  focus while  residing and                                                                    
working in the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl referenced  legal aspects,  which he  thought                                                                    
had  substantial  value.  He   asked  if  Mr.  Laffey  could                                                                    
reference   specifics  related   to  pipelines,   production                                                                    
facilities, and equipment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Laffey  thought some  members were  aware that  over the                                                                    
previous  two decades  there  had been  a  number of  Alaska                                                                    
Supreme  Court   decisions  related  to  the   valuation  of                                                                    
property    pipelines  and various  other legal  aspects. He                                                                    
mentioned timing  of appeals and final  decisions granted by                                                                    
the court  with monetary  terms. He felt  his training  as a                                                                    
lawyer  made him  uniquely  prepared  (especially given  the                                                                    
current composition  of the board)  to review and  cite case                                                                    
law  and come  to his  own independent  judgement about  the                                                                    
meaning. He  did not  think there  were currently  any other                                                                    
lawyers on the  board and thought he would be  in a position                                                                    
to offer his  two cents  about  a particular case and how it                                                                    
should be applied.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:11:38 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:12:25 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:13:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Merrick MOVED  to FORWARD  the  appointment of  Sam                                                                    
Laffey for  consideration in  accordance with  AS 39.05.080.                                                                    
She  relayed that  this did  not  reflect an  intent by  any                                                                    
member  of  the Senate  Finance  Committee  to vote  for  or                                                                    
against  the  confirmation  of the  individuals  during  any                                                                    
further  sessions.  There  being  NO OBJECTION,  it  was  so                                                                    
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 57                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations   and   other   appropriations;   making                                                                    
     reappropriations;  making appropriations  to capitalize                                                                    
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:13:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  MOVED to ADOPT proposed  committee substitute                                                                    
for SB 57, Work Draft 34-GS1460\I (Walsh, 3/27/25).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:14:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  SCOTT, STAFF,  SENATOR  BERT  STEDMAN, addressed  the                                                                    
committee substitute,  which was a   pared-down, bare-bones,                                                                    
match-only    capital   budget.   He  explained   that   all                                                                    
Unrestricted  General Funds  (UGF)  that  were not  matching                                                                    
funds had been  removed. He elaborated that  in the simplest                                                                    
terms,  matching funds  were  state  dollars that  leveraged                                                                    
federal  dollars.   He  mentioned   examples  such   as  the                                                                    
Statewide  Transportation  Improvement Program  (STIP),  the                                                                    
Airport  Improvement Program  (AIP), and  rural ferry  funds                                                                    
for the Department of  Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                    
He mentioned village safe water  and rural sanitation needs,                                                                    
for  which the  state received  federal funds.  He continued                                                                    
that  the Department  of  Commerce,  Community and  Economic                                                                    
Development  (DCCED) received  the Development  Block Grant,                                                                    
which he thought  was one of the states   largest matches at                                                                    
a ratio of ten federal dollars to one state dollar.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Scott  mentioned  the Alaska  Energy  Authority  (AEA),                                                                    
which  received funding  for bulk  fuel  upgrades for  rural                                                                    
power  upgrades  and  grid resilience.  He  noted  that  the                                                                    
Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation (AHFC)  received federal                                                                    
funds for  weatherization and housing projects.  He used the                                                                    
example of  the Department of Military  and Veterans Affairs                                                                    
(DMVA), which  received federal  dollars for  maintenance of                                                                    
armories and  modernization of assets around  the state. The                                                                    
CS contained $173  million in state UGF  matching funds. The                                                                    
funding leveraged $2.355 billion  of federal funds and other                                                                    
funds for a  total $2.793 billion. He explained  that the CS                                                                    
was a starting  point for the committee, and  there would be                                                                    
updated versions forthcoming.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:17:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  understood  that all  the  projects  were                                                                    
submitted in the governors original budget proposal.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Scott relayed  that all projects that  were removed were                                                                    
in the governors  original submitted  budget, and there were                                                                    
zero legislative additions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if all  the issues  in the  CS were                                                                    
submitted by the governor.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Scott answered "yes."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman affirmed  that there  were no  legislative                                                                    
additions in the CS.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman relayed  that  there would  be another  CS                                                                    
forthcoming in several days.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman WITHDREW  his  objection.  There being  NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered. The CS for SB 57 was ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman discussed  the  agenda  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SB  57  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
9:19:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:19 a.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
033125 Sam Laffey Assessment Review Resume_Redacted.pdf SFIN 3/31/2025 9:00:00 AM
Confirmations 2025
SB 57 GovAmdT to SCS1 Non-Mental Health StatewideTotals 3-28-25.pdf SFIN 3/31/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 57
SB 57 GovAmdT to SCS1 Non-Mental Health ProjectDetailByAgency 3-28-25.pdf SFIN 3/31/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 57
SB 57 work draft version I.pdf SFIN 3/31/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 57