Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/08/2024 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE

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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 8, 2024                                                                                           
                         1:36 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:36:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson  called the Senate Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:36 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ken Alper,  Staff, Senator Donny Olson;  Bryan Butcher, CEO,                                                                    
Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation; Akis  Gialopsos, Deputy                                                                    
Executive Director, Alaska  Housing Finance Corporation; Tim                                                                    
Sandstrom,   Chief   Operating    Officer,   Alaska   Energy                                                                    
Authority; Senator Scott  Kawasaki, Sponsor; Senator Shelley                                                                    
Hughes,  Sponsor;  Lesley  Thompson, Self,  Juneau;  Senator                                                                    
Cathy Giessel.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dyani   Chapman,   State  Director,   Alaska   Environments,                                                                    
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 125    AK HOUSING FINANCE CORP: SUSTAIN ENERGY                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          SB 125 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SB 170    EXTEND SENIOR BENEFITS PAYMENT PROGRAM                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB 170 was REPORTED OUT of committee with six                                                                       
          "do pass" recommendations, and with one new                                                                           
          fiscal note from the Department of Health.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 125                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to  subsidiary  corporations of  the                                                                    
     Alaska  Housing Finance  Corporation; and  establishing                                                                    
     the Alaska energy independence fund."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:37:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl MOVED to ADOPT the committee substitute for                                                                       
SB 125, Work Draft 33-GS1074\B (Dunmire/Gunther, 2/3/24).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN ALPER, STAFF, SENATOR DONNY OLSON, discussed the                                                                            
Summary of Changes (copy on file):                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Change  1: Deleted  what  was Sec.  4  of the  original                                                                    
     version of the bill. This  section would have created a                                                                    
     new  "energy  independence  fund" for  the  purpose  of                                                                    
     financing certain projects.  The remaining bill enables                                                                    
     AHFC  to  set up  a  subsidiary  corporation to  pursue                                                                    
     federal  and  other   funding,  finance  projects,  and                                                                    
     otherwise implement the goals  of the bill. But without                                                                    
     the fund,  there will  no longer be  the request  for a                                                                    
     state  general  fund  appropriation to  capitalize  the                                                                    
     fund.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Change 2:  Adds an  immediate effective date  to create                                                                    
     the new AHFC  subsidiary and make the  other changes in                                                                    
     the bill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl wondered whether removing the fund created a                                                                      
barrier to the legislature investing through the subsidiary                                                                     
corporation for sustainable energy projects.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Alper replied that the answer should be addressed in                                                                        
the presentation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson  WITHDREW  the  OBJECTION.  There  being  no                                                                    
further objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:40:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  BUTCHER,  CEO,  ALASKA HOUSING  FINANCE  CORPORATION,                                                                    
discussed  the  presentation,  "Senate  Bill  125:  Alaska's                                                                    
Energy Subsidiary"  (copy on file).  He pointed to  slide 3,                                                                    
"Presentation Outline":                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     POLICY OBJECTIVES                                                                                                          
     Create a  subsidiary corporation of the  Alaska Housing                                                                    
     Finance Corporation to                                                                                                     
     •Coordinate  with  Alaska   Energy  Authority,  provide                                                                    
     technical assistance for  renewable energy projects and                                                                    
     home improvements                                                                                                          
     •Magnetize  federal,  private for-profit,  and  private                                                                    
     non-profit capital  to enhance an investment  stack for                                                                    
     renewable opportunities                                                                                                    
       ollaborate  to  provide financing  opportunities  and                                                                    
     tools for renewable projects for Alaskans.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:41:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AKIS  GIALOPSOS, DEPUTY  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  ALASKA HOUSING                                                                    
FINANCE    CORPORATION,   addressed    slide   4,    "POLICY                                                                    
OBJECTIVES":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Create a  subsidiary corporation of the  Alaska Housing                                                                    
     Finance Corporation to                                                                                                     
     •Coordinate  with  Alaska   Energy  Authority,  provide                                                                    
     technical assistance for  renewable energy projects and                                                                    
     home improvements                                                                                                          
     •Magnetize  federal,  private for-profit,  and  private                                                                    
     non-profit capital  to enhance an investment  stack for                                                                    
     renewable opportunities                                                                                                    
     •Collaborate  to  provide financing  opportunities  and                                                                    
     tools for renewable projects for Alaskans.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos  pointed  to   slide  5,  "POLICY  OBJECTIVES                                                                    
(CONTINUED)":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Subsidiary   proposed   to  spur   sustainable   energy                                                                    
     projects:                                                                                                                  
     •  The subsidiary  would  help  spur energy  innovation                                                                    
     consistent  with   Governor  Dunleavy's  administration                                                                    
     objectives                                                                                                                 
          • Office of Energy Innovation (AO 340)                                                                                
          • Alaska Energy Security Task Force (AO 344)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos   looked  at  slide  6,   "POLICY  OBJECTIVES                                                                    
(CONTINUED)":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Subsidiary can help Alaska be competitive for historic                                                                     
     federal funding opportunities to improve the energy                                                                        
     profile for homes and businesses:                                                                                          
          •The   U.S.   Environmental  Protection   Agency's                                                                    
          Greenhouse  Gas   Reduction  Fund   (GHGRF)  grant                                                                    
          opportunity  from   a  pool  of  $27   billion  in                                                                    
          available  funding  (award announcements  expected                                                                    
          in    spring/summer   2024;    funds   distributed                                                                    
          nationally later)                                                                                                     
          •Waivers from  the Department  of Energy  for loan                                                                    
          guarantees  if  funded   through  a  State  Energy                                                                    
          Finance Institute (e.g. Energy Subsidiary)                                                                            
          •Stacked with time limited energy tax credits                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson  wondered whether  another state had  a model                                                                    
of a similar program.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos  replied that there  were over 23  states that                                                                    
had  various related  programs. He  stated that  Connecticut                                                                    
was the first state to implement the system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked about the success of those programs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos  stated that there were  various successes and                                                                    
outcomes.  He  shared  that   Connecticut  had  worked  with                                                                    
financial institutions  to ensure efficacy of  projects such                                                                    
as solar power, heat pumps, and wind farms.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Gialopsos  addressed   slide  7,   "POLICY  OBJECTIVES                                                                    
SUMMARY":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Joint Application with AHFC and AEA on Solar for All:                                                                      
     Aggregate $100 million applied to EPA for the Solar                                                                        
     for All portion of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund                                                                       
     •Evenly   split   between   AHFC   (residential   solar                                                                    
     installation) and community utility grade solar (AEA)                                                                      
     •Required focus on lower income households                                                                                 
     •$5 million set aside for financing                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  wondered if $95  million would  be allocated                                                                    
for solar power and $5  million would be for other financing                                                                    
such as heat pumps.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos  replied that every dollar  in the application                                                                    
must  be   used  for  the  installation   of  solar  panels,                                                                    
including the $5 million for other financing.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos  highlighted  slide   8,  "Role  of  AHFC  in                                                                    
Energy":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation  (AHFC) has  a long                                                                    
     track record of managing  innovative programs to tackle                                                                    
     energy challenges for homeowners and communities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher discussed slide 9, "Role of AHFC in Energy":                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Energy Efficiency Interest Rate Reduction:                                                                                 
       HFC  offers interest  rate reductions  when financing                                                                    
     new  or  existing  energy   efficient  homes,  or  when                                                                    
     borrowers make energy improvements to an existing home                                                                     
     Renovation Loan Option:                                                                                                    
     •Allows  for  improvements   that  increases  a  home's                                                                    
     value; increases  the energy efficiency of  a home; and                                                                    
     incorporates  universal  design principles  to  age-in-                                                                    
     place   all  while  improving  Alaska's  aging  housing                                                                    
     stock                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Since FY20, AHFC has financed  434 renovation loans for                                                                    
     just over $100M                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson   wondered  whether  the  funding   was  for                                                                    
strictly heat pumps.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher  replied that  the money  was for  anything that                                                                    
would make something more energy efficient.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:55:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher looked at slide 10, "Role of AHFC in Energy":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Weatherization:                                                                                                            
     •AHFC administers the  federal and state weatherization                                                                    
     program, making rural and urban  homes in Alaska safer,                                                                    
     more resilient to the elements,  and more affordable to                                                                    
     heat.                                                                                                                      
     •Manages AK Warm Energy  Modeling Software, Home Energy                                                                    
     Rating  System (HERS)  and  statewide  database of  all                                                                    
     home energy audits.                                                                                                        
     •Provides  training and  certification  for all  Energy                                                                    
     Raters                                                                                                                     
     •Building   and  Energy   Codes   reference   statutory                                                                    
     requirements  to ensure  investments  meet thermal  and                                                                    
     lighting standards                                                                                                         
     Workforce readiness EENow training                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:00:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher pointed to slide 11, "Role of AHFC in Energy":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Experiences meeting unique challenges:                                                                                     
     •AHFC has  a tradition of working  with sister agencies                                                                    
     and organizations,  stepping up, and meeting  the needs                                                                    
     of Alaskans                                                                                                                
     •Standing up programs to help Alaskans in need:                                                                            
     •Home Energy Rebate                                                                                                        
     •Emergency Rental Assistance and Homeowner Assistance                                                                      
     •Standing  up  subsidiaries  to meet  policy  needs  of                                                                    
     Alaskans:                                                                                                                  
     •Alaska Corporation on Affordable Housing                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher looked at slide 12, "Role of AHFC in Energy                                                                         
Summary":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  Housing  Finance  Corporation  has  decades  of                                                                    
     experience  crafting programs  and  structures to  meet                                                                    
     the energy needs of Alaskans.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:02:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM SANDSTRON, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, ALASKA ENERGY                                                                           
AUTHORITY, pointed to slide 13, "About AEA":                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Railbelt   Energy      AEA   owns   the  Bradley   Lake                                                                    
     Hydroelectric  Project, the  Alaska  Intertie, and  the                                                                    
     Sterling  to Quartz  Creek Transmission  Line    all of                                                                    
     which benefit  Railbelt consumers by reducing  the cost                                                                    
     of power.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Power Cost  Equalization (PCE)    PCE reduces  the cost                                                                    
     of   electricity  in   rural  Alaska   for  residential                                                                    
     customers and community  facilities, which helps ensure                                                                    
     the sustainability of centralized power.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Rural  Energy    AEA constructs  bulk fuel  tank farms,                                                                    
     diesel powerhouses,  and electrical  distribution grids                                                                    
     in rural villages. AEA supports  the operation of these                                                                    
     facilities   through   circuit  rider   and   emergency                                                                    
     response programs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Renewable  Energy and  Energy Efficiency   AEA provides                                                                    
     funding,   technical   assistance,  and   analysis   on                                                                    
     alternative  energy technologies  to benefit  Alaskans.                                                                    
     These include biomass, hydro, solar, wind, and others.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Grants  and   Loans   AEA   provides  loans   to  local                                                                    
     utilities,  local  governments, and  independent  power                                                                    
     producers  for the  construction  or  upgrade of  power                                                                    
     generation and other energy facilities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Energy  Planning   In   collaboration  with  local  and                                                                    
     regional   partners,   AEA    provides   economic   and                                                                    
     engineering analysis to plan the development of cost-                                                                      
     effective energy infrastructure.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AEA's  mission  is to  reduce  the  cost of  energy  in                                                                    
     Alaska.  To  achieve  this   mission,  AEA  strives  to                                                                    
     diversify   Alaska's   energy   portfolio    increasing                                                                    
     resiliency, reliability, and redundancy                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sandstrom pointed to slide 14, "AEA ACTIVE PROJECTS AND                                                                     
SERVICES."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop queried the award amount of the Volkswagen                                                                       
settlement.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sandstrom agreed to provide that information.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:05:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos looked at slide 15, "Senate Bill 125:                                                                             
Overview":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Senate  Bill  125  proposes  one  key  action  for  the                                                                    
     Legislature's consideration:                                                                                               
     •  Empower   AHFC  to  work  with   AEA  on  developing                                                                    
     sustainable energy  development through  several tools,                                                                    
     including   establishing    a   non-profit   subsidiary                                                                    
     corporation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos discussed slide 16, "Senate Bill 125:                                                                             
Proposed Policy Implementation Process":                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     1.  Legislation empowering  AHFC  to  establish a  non-                                                                    
     profit subsidiary is enacted;                                                                                              
     2. The  AHFC Board  of Directors, in  consultation with                                                                    
     legal   counsel,   creates  a   non-profit   subsidiary                                                                    
     corporation.  Composes bylaws  and initial  regulations                                                                    
     by AHFC for the non-profit subsidiary;                                                                                     
     3.  The non-profit  subsidiary acquires  relevant staff                                                                    
     and  works with  Alaska  Energy Authority  and AHFC  on                                                                    
     crafting  the sustainable  energy development  programs                                                                    
     articulated in Senate Bill 125;                                                                                            
     4.   The  non-profit   subsidiary  begins   aggregating                                                                    
     federal,  state,  and/or third-party  funding.  Funding                                                                    
     stack and conditions inform programmatic development.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:10:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos explained the Sectional Analysis (copy on                                                                         
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1: Adds  a new  subsection (AS  18.56.010 (h))                                                                    
     that acknowledges  the public  benefit of  a subsidiary                                                                    
     corporation  of  Alaska   Housing  Finance  Corporation                                                                    
     (AHFC)  to  assist   in  financing  sustainable  energy                                                                    
     development.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Amends existing AHFC statutes  to authorize                                                                    
     creation of  a subsidiary  corporation for  the purpose                                                                    
     of sustainable energy development.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3: Amends  AHFC's statutes  to create  or work                                                                    
     with  public, quasi-public  or nonprofit  organizations                                                                    
     that  provide  financial   assistance  for  sustainable                                                                    
     energy projects.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section   4:  Adds   a  new   section  (AS   18.56.870)                                                                    
     establishing the Alaska Energy Independence Fund.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          (a)  Adds  a new  section  to  AHFC's statutes  to                                                                    
          create  a  fund  within  AHFC  (not  the  proposed                                                                    
          subsidiary)   that   may    be   appropriated   or                                                                    
          transferred,   including   federal  grants,   AHFC                                                                    
          deposits, unrestricted loan  payments, interest or                                                                    
          other  income  earned  on loans,  investments,  or                                                                    
          assets of the fund(s).                                                                                                
          It  allows  AHFC   to  establish  interest  rates,                                                                    
          security  provisions  and   other  loan  terms  as                                                                    
          appropriate.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          (b) Authorizes  certain uses  of money  and assets                                                                    
          of  the Alaska  energy independence  fund to  make                                                                    
          loans; secure  bonds; provide or  leverage capital                                                                    
          through  loan   guarantees,  credit  enhancements,                                                                    
          equity  capital,   indirect  funding;   and  other                                                                    
          financial  products or  services approved  by AHFC                                                                    
          in regulation.                                                                                                        
          This section further allows AHFC  to pay the costs                                                                    
          of  administering both  the  fund as  well as  the                                                                    
         terms of the loan made through the fund.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          (c)  Identifies the  Corporation as  the fiduciary                                                                    
          of  the fund  under  37.10.071  which falls  under                                                                    
          Alaska's Department  of Revenue and allows  for it                                                                    
          to  invest   the  fund   in  accordance   with  an                                                                    
          investment policy adopted  by the Corporation that                                                                    
          may  deviate  from  the prudent  investment  rule.                                                                    
          Annual reporting  according to  Generally Accepted                                                                    
         Accounting Principles (GAAP) is required.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          (d)  Allows the  Corporation as  part of  its loan                                                                    
          approval  process to  require a  deed of  trust on                                                                    
          the building as well as  real estate for which the                                                                    
          building is located.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          (e)  Allows  the   Corporation  to  contract  with                                                                    
          Alaska  Energy  Authority  for  technical  review,                                                                    
         expertise or analysis of proposed loans.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          (f) Does not allow the  Corporation to make a loan                                                                    
          guarantee  in   excess  of  $20   million  without                                                                    
          legislative approval.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          (g)  Allows the  Corporation to  adopt regulations                                                                    
          in order to administer the fund.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          (h)  Acknowledges  the  fund is  not  a  dedicated                                                                    
          fund.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5:  Adds new definitions  including sustainable                                                                    
     energy   development;   building   energy   efficiency;                                                                    
     electrical  infrastructure;  clean transportation;  and                                                                    
     any  other greenhouse  gas emissions  reduction, energy                                                                    
     efficiency, or zero-emission technology.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Butcher  furthered  that  the  federal  government  had                                                                    
limitations on the  dollars that could be  used on renewable                                                                    
energy projects.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:16:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop wondered whether there was a stop in Huslia.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher replied in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop recalled  that  there was  a  solar farm  in                                                                    
Huslia.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher  stressed that  many new  homes were  built with                                                                    
solar on roofs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick  wondered whether  funding was  received for                                                                    
the solar panels.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Butcher  replied that  the COVID  dollars were  used for                                                                    
those homes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos stated  that the  final section  of the  bill                                                                    
added an immediate effective date to the legislation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl wondered  whether there  could be  changes to                                                                    
allow  for  the  subsidiary corporation  to  participate  in                                                                    
novel  projects  to  delivery  energy  across  international                                                                    
border.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos agreed to provide that information.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:20:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DYANI   CHAPMAN,   STATE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA   ENVIRONMENTS,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), spoke  in spoke  in support                                                                    
of the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 125 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:26:23 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 170                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  extending the  Alaska senior  benefits payment                                                                    
     program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:26:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson MOVED to ADOPT the committee substitute for                                                                      
SB 170, Work Draft 33-LS1119\S (Bergerud, 2/6/24).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KEN ALPER, STAFF, SENATOR DONNY OLSON discussed the                                                                             
Explanation of Changes (copy on file):                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Change 1: Removes the sunset  provision from the Senior                                                                    
     Benefits program. This makes  the program permanent and                                                                    
     no     longer      needing     periodic     legislative                                                                    
     reauthorization.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Change  2:  Repeals  the still-existing  statutes  that                                                                    
     established  the  Longevity  Bonus program,  AS  47.45.                                                                    
     This  program  was  last funded  in  2002.  Also  makes                                                                    
     conforming  changes in  other  statutes that  reference                                                                    
     the longevity bonus.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson queried the effect on the senior elders who                                                                      
received the benefit in the past.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Alper replied that there was some history on the bill,                                                                      
and the legislature has not funded it for many years. There                                                                     
was zero practical implication.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:30:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SCOTT KAWASAKI,  SPONSOR, gave  an overview  of the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson asked  about the  changes  in the  committee                                                                    
substitute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kawasaki replied that the changes were appropriate.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:32:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHELLEY  HUGHES, SPONSOR, explained some  history of                                                                    
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:34:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LESLEY  THOMPSON,  SELF, JUNEAU,  spoke  in  support of  the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson MOVED to REPORT  SB 170 out of committee with                                                                    
individual recommendations  and attached fiscal  note. There                                                                    
being NO OBJECTION it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 170  was REPORTED OUT  of committee with six  "do pass"                                                                    
recommendations,  and  with one  new  fiscal  note from  the                                                                    
Department of Health.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson acknowledged SENATOR CATHY GIESSEL.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
2:40:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:40 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 125 CS in SFin summary of changes 2-8-24 KA.pdf SFIN 2/8/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 125
SB 125 work draft version B.pdf SFIN 2/8/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 125
SB 125 SFIN AHFC SB125 Presentation.pdf SFIN 2/8/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 125
SB170 CS in SFin summary of changes 2-8-24 KA.pdf SFIN 2/8/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 170
SB 170 work draft version S.pdf SFIN 2/8/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 170