Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532
02/21/2022 01:00 PM Senate FINANCE
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| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| SB199 || SB200 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | SB 199 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 200 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE
February 21, 2022
1:00 p.m.
1:00:55 PM
CALL TO ORDER
Co-Chair Bishop called the Senate Finance Committee meeting
to order at 1:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair
Senator Lyman Hoffman
Senator Natasha von Imhof
Senator Bill Wielechowski
Senator David Wilson
MEMBERS ABSENT
Senator Donny Olson
ALSO PRESENT
Joe Geldhof, Board Member, Permanent Fund Defenders,
Juneau.
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE
Renn Nelson, Self, Craig; Mike Smith, Self, Wasilla; Edward
Martin Jr., Self, Kenai; James Squyres, Self, Rural
Deltana; Philip Prax, Self, Fairbanks; Allen Hippler, Self,
Anchorage; George Pierce, Self, Kasilof; Gail Limbaugh-
Moore, Self, Soldotna; Sheila Schatz, Self, Wasilla; Alan
Ramos, Self, Wasilla; Ron Johnson, Self, Fairbanks; Mike
Coons, Self, Palmer; Bert Houghtaling, Self, Big Lake; Greg
Weaver, Self, Matsu; Joel Sigman, Self, Wasilla; Amanda
Perry, Self, Soldotna; Sally Johnson, Self, Palmer; Michael
Garhart, Self, Wasilla; Barbara Tyndall, Self, North Pole;
Sherman Leifer, Self, Palmer; Cyrus Cooper, Self, Healy;
Willy Keppel, Self, Quinhagak; Dianne MacRae, Self,
Kasilof; Susan Dotson, Self, Ketchikan; Justin Hooper,
Self, Anchorage; Mike Bridge, Self, Kenai; Sunshine
Konovalov, Self, Homer; Linda Branson, Self, Houston; Tonda
Lundin, Self, Wasilla; Lee Cooper, Disabled Veterans of
Denali Borough, Healy; Allison Moe, self, Anchorage; Tom
Mattie, self, Lazy Mountain; Mike Swain, Self, Anchorage;
Julie Moore, Self, Soldotna; Magnus Sampson, Self,
Dillingham; Lindsey Rhodes, Self, Kenai; Jeffrey Ackerman,
Self, Kenai Peninsula; Jeremiah Hamrick, Self, Wasilla;
Kelly Nash, Interior Patriots, Fairbanks; Richard Tolotta,
Self, Anchorage; Greg Collins, Self, Homer; Dustin
Aaronson, Self, Kenai; Donald Bullock, Self, Douglas;
Theresa Groves, Self, Fairbanks; Christine Robbins, Self,
Fairbanks; Laura Bonner, Self, Anchorage.
SUMMARY
SB 199 PERM FUND; PERMANENT FUND DIVIDEND
SB 199 was HEARD and HELD in committee for
further consideration.
SB 200 PERMANENT FUND DIVIDEND; 25/75 POMV SPLIT
SB 200 was HEARD and HELD in committee for
further consideration.
SENATE BILL NO. 199
"An Act relating to use of income of the Alaska
permanent fund; relating to the amount of the
permanent fund dividend; relating to the duties of the
commissioner of revenue; and providing for an
effective date."
SENATE BILL NO. 200
"An Act relating to use of income of the Alaska
permanent fund; relating to the amount of the
permanent fund dividend; relating to the duties of the
commissioner of revenue; and providing for an
effective date."
Co-Chair Bishop OPENED public testimony.
1:01:55 PM
RENN NELSON, SELF, CRAIG (via teleconference), spoke
against both bills. He testified that he would like a full
statutory Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD).
Co-Chair Bishop stated that testimony should be strictly
about the bills.
1:03:59 PM
AT EASE
1:04:22 PM
RECONVENED
1:04:48 PM
MIKE SMITH, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference), testified
against the bills.
1:07:10 PM
EDWARD MARTIN JR., SELF, KENAI (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills. He testified in support of a full
statutory PFD. He felt that the legislature was breaking
the law. He stated that his family had a history in Alaska.
1:09:23 PM
JAMES SQUYRES, SELF, RURAL DELTANA (via teleconference),
spoke against the bills. He felt that the bill should have
more committees of referral.
1:11:51 PM
PHILIP PRAX, SELF, FAIRBANKS (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
1:14:24 PM
ALLEN HIPPLER, SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills. He felt that the bills should be
combined with a constitutional spending cap.
1:15:46 PM
GEORGE PIERCE, SELF, KASILOF (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
1:18:01 PM
GAIL LIMBAUGH-MOORE, SELF, SOLDOTNA (via teleconference),
spoke against the bills. She expressed concern that the
committee was not following the law.
1:19:01 PM
SHEILA SCHATZ, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
1:21:17 PM
ALAN RAMOS, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:22:44 PM
RON JOHNSON, SELF, FAIRBANKS (via teleconference),
testified in support of both bills. He felt that there
should not be such a strict adherence to the statutory
dividend, because the statute was written at a different
time.
1:24:30 PM
MIKE COONS, SELF, PALMER (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:26:11 PM
BERT HOUGHTALING, SELF, BIG LAKE (via teleconference),
testified against the bills. He spoke in support of the
statutory PFD.
1:28:53 PM
GREG WEAVER, SELF, MATSU (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:31:39 PM
JOEL SIGMAN, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference), testified
against the bills.
1:33:53 PM
AMANDA PERRY, SELF, SOLDOTNA (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills, and testified in support of the 50/50
POMV split.
1:34:23 PM
SALLY JOHNSON, SELF, PALMER (via teleconference), testified
against the bills.
1:35:28 PM
MICHAEL GARHART, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:37:35 PM
BARBARA TYNDALL, SELF, NORTH POLE (via teleconference),
testified in opposition to the bills. She remarked that
there were very high costs for groceries and oil.
1:39:22 PM
SHERMAN LEIFER, SELF, PALMER (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
1:39:56 PM
CYRUS COOPER, SELF, HEALY (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:42:02 PM
WILLY KEPPEL, SELF, QUINHAGAK (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:43:50 PM
DIANNE MACRAE, SELF, KASILOF (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
1:45:06 PM
SUSAN DOTSON, SELF, KETCHIKAN (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:45:56 PM
JUSTIN HOOPER, SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), felt
that there was not much change, and stressed that it was
very difficult for him to survive financially.
1:48:23 PM
MIKE BRIDGE, SELF, KENAI (via teleconference), spoke in
support of the committee, and remarked that five dollars a
day could be considered a lot of money to some people.
1:50:10 PM
SUNSHINE KONOVALOV, SELF, HOMER (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
1:51:47 PM
LINDA BRANSON, SELF, HOUSTON (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
1:53:18 PM
TONDA LUNDIN, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference), testified
against the bills.
1:54:42 PM
LEE COOPER, DISABLED VETERANS OF DENALI BOROUGH, HEALY (via
teleconference), spoke against the bills.
1:56:37 PM
ALLISON MOE, SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), spoke in
opposition of the legislation and expressed concern for
cutting the PFD and imposing taxes.
1:57:40 PM
TOM MATTIE, SELF, LAZY MOUNTAIN (via teleconference),
expressed concern that money was being taken from him. He
spoke against the bills.
1:58:28 PM
MIKE SWAIN, SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), testified
in opposition of the legislation.
1:59:34 PM
JULIE MOORE, SELF, SOLDOTNA (via teleconference), testified
in opposition to SB 199. She wanted her PFD money.
2:00:35 PM
MAGNUS SAMPSON, SELF, DILLINGHAM (via teleconference),
spoke against the bills.
2:01:48 PM
LINDSEY RHODES, SELF, KENAI (via teleconference), testified
against the bills.
2:02:11 PM
JEFFREY ACKERMAN, SELF, KENAI PENINSULA (via
teleconference), spoke against the bills.
2:04:59 PM
JEREMIAH HAMRICK, SELF, WASILLA (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
2:06:13 PM
KELLY NASH, INTERIOR PATRIOTS, FAIRBANKS (via
teleconference), testified against the bills.
2:07:27 PM
RICHARD TOLOTTA, SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
2:09:09 PM
GREG COLLINS, SELF, HOMER (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
2:10:09 PM
DUSTIN AARONSON, SELF, KENAI (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
2:12:23 PM
DONALD BULLOCK, SELF, DOUGLAS (via teleconference), spoke
in favor of the bills.
2:13:51 PM
AT EASE
2:29:02 PM
RECONVENED
2:29:35 PM
JOE GELDHOF, BOARD MEMBER, PERMANENT FUND DEFENDERS,
JUNEAU, testified against the bills.
2:32:28 PM
THERESA GROVES, SELF, FAIRBANKS (via teleconference), spoke
against the bills.
2:33:38 PM
CHRISTINE ROBBINS, SELF, FAIRBANKS (via teleconference),
testified against the bills.
2:34:26 PM
LAURA BONNER, SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), spoke
in support of SB 200. She stated that she did not support
SB 199.
Co-Chair Bishop CLOSED public testimony. He discussed the
following day's agenda.
SB 199 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
SB 200 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further
consideration.
ADJOURNMENT
2:36:19 PM
The meeting was adjourned at 2:36 p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB 199 - SB 200 Opposition Letter Packet 1.pdf |
SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM |
SB 199 SB 200 |
| SB 199 - SB 200 Opposition Letter Packet 2.pdf |
SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM |
SB 199 SB 200 |
| SB 200 Opposition Letter Horvath.pdf |
SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM |
SB 200 |
| SB 200 Opposition Letter Banner.pdf |
SFIN 2/21/2022 1:00:00 PM |
SB 200 |