Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/12/2019 01:00 PM FINANCE

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01:02:11 PM Start
01:03:11 PM SB20 || SB21
01:04:37 PM Public Testimony: Kethcikan, Wrangell, Petersburg
02:00:28 PM Public Testimony: Utquagvik, Tok, Delta Junction
02:18:43 PM Public Testimony: Sitka, Cordova, Valdez
03:40:10 PM Public Testimony: Offnets
04:41:10 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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-- Please Note Time --
+= SB 20 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= SB 21 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Uniform Rule 23 Waived
- 1:00-2:00: Ketchikan LIO, Wrangell LIO,
Petersburg LIO: Sign Up by 1:30 pm
- 2:00-2:30: Utqiagvik LIO, Tok LIO, Delta
Junction LIO: Sign Up by 2:15 pm
- 2:30-3:30: Sitka LIO, Cordova LIO, Valdez LIO:
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                   SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                        April 12, 2019                                                                                          
                          1:02 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:02:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  called the Senate  Finance Committee  meeting                                                                 
to order at 1:02 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman  Hoffman                                                                                                          
Senator Peter  Micciche                                                                                                         
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Nola Walker,  Self, Wrangell;  Chelsea  Goucher, UAS  Ketchican                                                                 
Campus  Advisory  Council,  Ketchikan;  Leslie  Jackson,  Self,                                                                 
Ketchikan;  Molly  Kabler,  Self,  Juneau;  Kerri  Willoughby,                                                                  
Self,  Juneau;  Delbert  Kadake  Self,  Kake;  Henrich  Kadake,                                                                 
Self,  Kake;  Norm Carson,  City  of  Pelican,  Pelican;  Debra                                                                 
Schnabel, self, Haines;                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Lisa  Vonbargen,   Borough   Manager,  City   and  Borough   of                                                                 
Wrangell,  Wrangell;  John Havrilek,  Self,  Petersburg;  Karen                                                                 
Hofstad,  Self,  Petersburg;  Sally  Dwyer,  Self, Petersburg;                                                                  
Brian  Lynch,  Self,  Petersburg;  Cynthia  Lagoudakis,   Self,                                                                 
Petersburg;  Nancy  Berg,  Self,  Petersburg;  Rebecca  Knight,                                                                 
Self,  Petersburg;  Deb  Turnball,  Public  Media,   Ketchikan;                                                                 
Vicki Obrien, Self,  Ketchikan; Ghert Abbott, Self,  Ketchikan;                                                                 
Ginger Fortin,  Self, Ketchikan;  Mary Deihl, Self,  Ketchikan;                                                                 
Kathleen  Light,   Self,  Ketchikan;  Glenn  Brown,   Ketchikan                                                                 
Gateway  Borough,  Ketchikan;   Marty  West,  Self,  Ketchikan;                                                                 
Donald Westlund,  Self,  Ketchikan; Stephen  Prysunka, City  of                                                                 
Wrangell,  Wrangell; Christie Jamiesen,  KSTK, Wrangell;  Julie                                                                 
Decker,  City  of Wrangell,  Wrangell;  Eric  Grundberg,  Self,                                                                 
Petersburg;  Marlena Marvin, Self,  Petersburg; Mara  Lutomski,                                                                 
Self,  Petersburg;  Jeigh  Stanton  Gregor,  Self, Petersburg;                                                                  
Kathi   Riemer,   Self,  Petersburg;   Megan   Litster,   Self,                                                                 
Petersburg;  Robyn  Hagerman, Self,  Petersburg;  Mel  Gruelle,                                                                 
Self,  Petersburg; Jody  Tow,  Self, Petersburg;  David  Beebe,                                                                 
Self, Petersburg;  Chelsea  Tremblay,  Self, Petersburg;  Heidi                                                                 
Jacobsen,  Self, Glennallen;  Scott  MacManus, Superintendent,                                                                  
Alaska Gateway School  District, Tok; Sam Skaggs,  Self, Sitka;                                                                 
Kathleen  Todd, Self,  Valdez;  Susan Harding,  Self,  Cordova;                                                                 
Penelope  Oswalt, Self,  Cordova; Karl  Becker, Self,  Cordova;                                                                 
Patricia  Relay, Self,  Valdez;  Rosemary Carlton,  Friends  of                                                                 
Sheldon Jackson  Museum, Sitka;  Frederick Olson, Self,  Sitka;                                                                 
Kate  Johnson, Self,  Sitka;  Beth Short-Rhoads,  Self,  Sitka;                                                                 
Jennifer  McNichol,  Self,   Sitka;  Kara  Knox,  Self,  Sitka;                                                                 
Collauna Marley,  Self, Sitka; Mickey Barker, Self,  Sitka; Dan                                                                 
Etulain,  Raven Radio,  Sitka; Lisa Sadler-Hart,  Self,  Sitka;                                                                 
Renee Trafton,  Self, Sitka; Harvey  Brandt, Self, Sitka;  Math                                                                 
Trafton,  Self, Sitka;  Patricia  Dick, Self,  Sitka;  Gretchen                                                                 
Clark, Self, Sitka;  Melissa Haley (on behalf of Keith  Brady),                                                                 
City and Borough  of Sitka, Sitka;  Stacey Wayne, Self,  Sitka;                                                                 
Bart  Meyer,  Self,  Sitka;  Grace  Brooks,  Self,  Sitka;  Liz                                                                 
Zacher,   Self,  Sitka;   Amy  Sweeney,   Self,  Sitka;   Ariel                                                                 
Starbuck,  Self, Sitka;  Kathleen Brandt  Brandt, Self,  Sitka;                                                                 
Jim Gifford,  Self,  Valdez;  Maureen Radotich,  Self,  Valdez;                                                                 
Jeremy O'Neil,  Self, Valdez; John  Cullen, Self, Valdez;  Barb                                                                 
Jewell,  Cordova Community  Medical Center,  Cordova;  Michelle                                                                 
Hahn, self,  Cordova; Andrew  Smallwood,  self, Cordova;  Peter                                                                 
Hoepfner,  self, Cordova;  Kent  Barkhau, Self,  Sitka;  Herman                                                                 
Morgan,  Self, Aniak; Clif  Passmore, Self,  Eagle River;  Cris                                                                 
Eichenlaub,  Self,  Eagle River;  Stephanie  Berglund,  THREAD,                                                                 
Anchorage;  Tom   Rutecki,  Self,  Juneau;  Charlene   Arneson,                                                                 
Chugatch  School District,  Whittier;  George Pierce,  Chugatch                                                                 
School  District,  Kasilof;  Scott Morgan,  self,  Sand  Point;                                                                 
Nick Rutecki,  Self, Juneau; Susan  Terogette, Self,  Kotzebue;                                                                 
Kiersten  Jorgenson,   WWAMI  graduate,  Boston;   Tom  Martin,                                                                 
Interior  Community  Center, Fairbanks;  Marilyn  Toupe,  self,                                                                 
Fairbanks;  Melanie  Lesh, self,  Gustavus;  John Joyce,  self,                                                                 
Juneau; Dan Higgins,  self, Fort Yukon; Janice Michaub-Whalen,                                                                  
Board  Member, Connecting  Ties,  Valdez; Vicky  Thomas,  self,                                                                 
Fort Yukon;  Hans James, self,  Fort Yukon; Tina Scanlan,  City                                                                 
Manager, Akutan;  Nathan Hill,  self, Kokhanok; Natasha  Singh,                                                                 
self,   Fairbanks;  Maureen   Knutsen,   Self,  Naknek;   Nicki                                                                 
Sheldon,  self,  Hoonah;  Russel  Lyman,  self,  Haines;  Erika                                                                 
Wolter,  self, Big  Lake; Wendy  Feldbauer,  self, Sand  Point;                                                                 
Ida  Nelson,  self,  Igiugig;  Phyllis  Bottai,  self,  Palmer;                                                                 
Michael  McGinty,  self,  Palmer;  Joan  Tower,  self,  Palmer;                                                                 
Catherine  Hall,  self,  Palmer;  Fred  Traber,  self,  Palmer;                                                                 
Rebecca  Siegal,  self,  Brevig  Mission;  Ron  Johnson,  self,                                                                 
Fairbanks;  Frank   Kelpy,  Mayor,  City  of  Unalaska;   James                                                                 
Feldbauer,  self, Sand  Point; Cathy  Renfeldt, self,  Cordova;                                                                 
Emily  Murray, self,  Elim; Michael  Anderson,  self,  Cordova;                                                                 
Amy Titus, self, White Mountain;                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 20      APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           SB 20 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                    
           consideration.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 21      APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           SB 21 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                    
           consideration.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 20                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act making  appropriations for the operating  and loan                                                                 
     program  expenses  of  state government  and  for  certain                                                                 
     programs;  capitalizing  funds;  amending appropriations;                                                                  
     making   appropriations   under  art.   IX,  sec.   17(c),                                                                 
     Constitution   of   the   State   of  Alaska,   from   the                                                                 
     constitutional  budget reserve fund; and providing  for an                                                                 
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 21                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  making  appropriations  for  the  operating  and                                                                 
     capital expenses  of the state's integrated comprehensive                                                                  
     mental    health    program,    including    supplemental                                                                  
     appropriations; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:03:11 PM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  Stedman provided  protocol for  the public  testimony                                                                 
process.  He  provided  the testimony  times  for  the  various                                                                 
statewide communities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^PUBLIC TESTIMONY: KETHCIKAN, WRANGELL, PETERSBURG                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:04:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LISA  VONBARGEN,   BOROUGH   MANAGER,  CITY   AND  BOROUGH   OF                                                                 
WRANGELL,   WRANGELL   (via   teleconference),    opposed   the                                                                 
governor's   budget.   She   particularly   opposed   cuts   to                                                                 
education.  She  noted  that  Wrangell   property  taxes  would                                                                 
increase  due to  a reduction  in the Base  Student  Allocation                                                                 
(BSA).  She  asked  the committee  to  fund  school  bond  debt                                                                 
reimbursement.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:05:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN   HAVRILEK,   SELF,  PETERSBURG   (via   teleconference),                                                                  
testified in strong support of funding  for public radio, which                                                                 
he said was essential for health and safety  for his community.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:06:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN HOFSTAD,  SELF,  PETERSBURG (via  teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
in  support   for   public  radio   that   provided   emergency                                                                 
communication  services for the community. She  opposed cuts to                                                                 
public broadcasting.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:07:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SALLY DWYER, SELF, PETERSBURG  (via teleconference),  testified                                                                 
in support of full  funds for the Alaska Marine Highway  System                                                                 
(AMHS). She opposed  privatization of the system.  She spoke in                                                                 
strong  support of  public radio.  She believed  the  continued                                                                 
cuts to public  radio went past  the bone and into the  marrow.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:09:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN LYNCH,  SELF, PETERSBURG  (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                 
opposition    to   the   governor's    budget,   particularly,                                                                  
reallocation  of  fishing grants  to  the state's  budget  away                                                                 
from municipalities.  He  explained the  grant process  and how                                                                 
the  action  would  negatively  impact   small  costal  Alaskan                                                                 
communities.  He asserted that not all tax reductions  enhanced                                                                 
business opportunities  and that  this action would  not reduce                                                                 
taxes currently  levied  against existing  businesses. He  said                                                                 
that local municipal taxes  would have to be increased to cover                                                                 
lost revenues.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CYNTHIA  LAGOUDAKIS,  SELF,  PETERSBURG  (via teleconference),                                                                  
testified  in  support  of public  radio  that  sent  emergency                                                                 
messaging  and  information,   on  weather  and  various  other                                                                 
important topics,  for fishermen and the larger community.  She                                                                 
strongly   supported   readdressing   oil   tax   credits   and                                                                 
instituting a statewide income tax.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:11:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY BERG,  SELF, PETERSBURG  (via  teleconference),  believed                                                                 
that the state  had an obligation  to educate its children  and                                                                 
provide  transportation to  connect the  cities in boroughs  of                                                                 
Alaska. She testified  in support of AMHS. She reported  a loss                                                                 
in the ferry system  would cause a major loss in her  business.                                                                 
She reiterated her support of funds for education.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:12:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA KNIGHT, SELF,  PETERSBURG (via teleconference),  called                                                                 
for  the immediate  cancellation  of  the March  19th  contract                                                                 
award of the Sitka Katlian Road on Baranof Island  and redirect                                                                 
the funds to short-funded projects elsewhere.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:13:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEB TURNBALL,  PUBLIC  MEDIA, KETCHIKAN  (via teleconference),                                                                  
spoke   in  support   of  public   broadcasting.   She   shared                                                                 
information  about the local  radio station  and stressed  that                                                                 
KRBD   radio  was   the  only   station   providing   emergency                                                                 
information to nearby communities.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:14:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICKI OBRIEN,  SELF, KETCHIKAN  (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                 
support  of  flat  funding  for  public  media   and  satellite                                                                 
services.  She discussed that public  media connected  Alaskans                                                                 
and was the  only vetted reputable  news source throughout  the                                                                 
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:15:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GHERT ABBOTT,  SELF, KETCHIKAN  (via teleconference),  strongly                                                                 
opposed  the governor's  budget. He particularly  opposed  cuts                                                                 
to Medicaid  and  the University.  He  opposed a  head tax.  He                                                                 
believed   that   a   statewide   income   tax   was   becoming                                                                 
increasingly necessary.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:16:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GINGER FORTIN, SELF,  KETCHIKAN (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                 
strong  support for  AMHS  funding. She  lamented  it would  be                                                                 
extremely  difficult  to live  in  Southeast Alaska  without  a                                                                 
ferry. She spoke against cuts in senior benefits.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:16:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY  DEIHL, SELF,  KETCHIKAN  (via teleconference),  spoke  in                                                                 
support of public radio.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:17:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN   LIGHT,   SELF,   KETCHIKAN  (via   teleconference),                                                                  
requested to leave  funding for the Alaska Council  on the Arts                                                                 
in the budget.  She discussed the  benefits of the council  and                                                                 
arts programs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:18:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GLENN  BROWN,   KETCHIKAN  GATEWAY   BOROUGH,  KETCHIKAN   (via                                                                 
teleconference),  opposed  the elimination  of state bond  debt                                                                 
reimbursement,  which  he  said  would  result  a loss  to  the                                                                 
borough of  40 percent of  its annual sales  tax revenue,  or a                                                                 
23  percent increase  in  property tax  millage.  He urged  the                                                                 
committee  to recognize  the importance  of the municipal  debt                                                                 
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:19:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARTY WEST,  SELF, KETCHIKAN  (via  teleconference),  testified                                                                 
in support  of the  Alaska Council  on the  Arts. She  reported                                                                 
that the  council was  incredibly important  for the  community                                                                 
and the local economy.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:19:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONALD WESTLUND,  SELF, KETCHIKAN  (via teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
against cuts to  the AMHS. He had heard a news report  in April                                                                 
that the  ferry system  was critical to  national security.  He                                                                 
asked the  committee to reinstate  $2.2 million that  the state                                                                 
was looking to move away from the ferry Tustumena replacement.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  would try to  find the document mentioned  by                                                                 
Mr. Westlund related to national security.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:21:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEPHEN   PRYSUNKA,    CITY   OF   WRANGELL,   WRANGELL    (via                                                                 
teleconference),  opposed  cuts  to AMHS.  He spoke  about  the                                                                 
needs for  the ferry in Wrangell  related to life and  tourism.                                                                 
He supported funding  for public radio that provided  emergency                                                                 
service information.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTIE JAMIESEN,  KSTK, WRANGELL (via teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
in support  of continued  funding for  public radio. She  spoke                                                                 
to the importance  of the emergency alert system.  The only way                                                                 
to keep  the services on  air was to  replace state funds  with                                                                 
local  money, which  was  not feasible.  The  impact of  losing                                                                 
radio stations was major compared  to the amount of state funds                                                                 
required to continue the services.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:24:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE    DECKER,    CITY    OF    WRANGELL,    WRANGELL    (via                                                                 
teleconference),  asked the  committee to  support funding  for                                                                 
the AMHS.  She supported looking  at productive solutions  that                                                                 
Southeast Conference  was currently considering.  She asked the                                                                 
committee to continue  sharing fish taxes with municipalities.                                                                  
She urged the legislature  to avoid drastic cuts to  education.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:25:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NOLA  WALKER,  SELF, WRANGELL,  observed  that  decisions  made                                                                 
currently  would have long-term  impacts. She agreed  with most                                                                 
statements  made by past  testimony. She  particularly  opposed                                                                 
cuts  to public  radio.  She spoke  to  the importance  of  the                                                                 
emergency  broadcasting  system.  Earthquakes  could happen  at                                                                 
any  time  and could  result  in  tsunamis  or  other  negative                                                                 
results. The emergency system connected people.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:27:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHELSEA  GOUCHER,   UAS  KETCHICAN  CAMPUS  ADVISORY   COUNCIL,                                                                 
KETCHIKAN,  spoke in  support of  funds for  the University  of                                                                 
Alaska.  She   discussed  the   importance  of  the   community                                                                 
campuses for the state.  She discussed local training  provided                                                                 
by the  University.  She believed  that hiring  local  Alaskans                                                                 
would  help keep costs  down. She  had received  a degree  from                                                                 
the University,  and it had resulted in her involvement  in the                                                                 
community.  She provided  further  detail about  her  education                                                                 
with  the University.  She  discussed  that  the PFD  had  been                                                                 
created to help hedge against a declining revenue.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:30:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LESLIE  JACKSON,  SELF,  KETCHIKAN,  testified  in  support  of                                                                 
public  radio. The  radio was  a community  asset and  provided                                                                 
information about  emergency services, community  events, news,                                                                 
and  other. She  supported  public radio  even if  it meant  an                                                                 
income tax.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:31:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MOLLY KABLER, SELF,  JUNEAU, spoke in support of public  radio.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:31:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERRI WILLOUGHBY,  SELF, JUNEAU, spoke in support  of the AMHS,                                                                 
public education,  and the arts.  She supported a state  income                                                                 
tax. She believed the services were vital.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:33:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC GRUNDBERG,  SELF, PETERSBURG  (via teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
in strong  support  of public  media and  education. He  wanted                                                                 
families  to live  in Alaska  in 15  years and  without  public                                                                 
education  they would not. He supported  the AMHS. He  proposed                                                                 
reduced  PFDs and an implementation  of  a state income  tax to                                                                 
pay for services until oil taxes could be revisited.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:33:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARLENA MARVIN,  SELF, PETERSBURG  (via teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
in  support   of  funding  for   early  education,   K-12,  and                                                                 
postsecondary  education. She strongly  supported full  funding                                                                 
for elder programs and public radio. She opposed  federal block                                                                 
grant  funding for  Medicaid.  She  supported cutting  oil  tax                                                                 
credits. She  supported full funding  for AMHS and a  statewide                                                                 
progressive income tax.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARA LUTOMSKI,  SELF,  PETERSBURG (via  teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
in support  for full  funding  of education,  including a  one-                                                                 
time  increment  of  $30  million   from  the  past  year.  She                                                                 
supported funding  and reform of AMHS. She supported  an income                                                                 
tax and reduced PFD.  She did not support further  budget cuts.                                                                 
1:36:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEIGH STANTON  GREGOR, SELF, PETERSBURG  (via teleconference),                                                                  
asked the committee  to reconsider proposed education  cuts. He                                                                 
believed the reductions would harm the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:37:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHI RIEMER, SELF,  PETERSBURG (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                 
support of funds for public education.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:38:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEGAN LITSTER,  SELF,  PETERSBURG (via  teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
in  opposition to  the  proposed budget.  She  appreciated  the                                                                 
commitment  to criminal  justice reform  but believed that  the                                                                 
proposed   budget  would   have  a  negative   impact   on  law                                                                 
enforcement  in  the state.  She opposed  drastic  budget  cuts                                                                 
that would  impact rural Alaska.  She believed that  the budget                                                                 
did not reflect  Alaskan values.  She supported schools,  arts,                                                                 
healthcare, AMHS, and public radio.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:39:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBYN   HAGERMAN,  SELF,   PETERSBURG   (via  teleconference),                                                                  
opposed  cuts  to   the  public  radio  system,  AMHS,   public                                                                 
education,  and public  health.  She believed  that there  were                                                                 
more ways  to balance  the budget  than the  drastic cuts.  She                                                                 
supported a smaller  PFD and a statewide income  tax. She noted                                                                 
there was  income generated across  Alaska that left  the state                                                                 
and did not ultimately  benefit Alaska. She asked  if the state                                                                 
was going to shift  the cost burden to municipalities  to do so                                                                 
equitably across Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEL  GRUELLE, SELF,  PETERSBURG  (via  teleconference),  shared                                                                 
that he  was a retired  fisherman. He did  not support  cuts to                                                                 
the AMHS.  He opposed cuts to schools,  seniors, and  Medicaid.                                                                 
He stressed  that Alaska  was an incredible  place to live.  He                                                                 
thought the proposed cuts were ridiculous.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:42:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JODY TOW,  SELF, PETERSBURG (via  teleconference), stated  that                                                                 
the governor's  proposals  would decrease  the quality  of life                                                                 
in Alaska. She opposed  cuts to public education.  She stressed                                                                 
that the community  depended on the fisheries tax.  She opposed                                                                 
changes to  the school bond debt  reimbursement for  FY 20; the                                                                 
community  needed time to prepare  for the inevitable  increase                                                                 
in property  taxes. She supported  a reduced PFD and  an income                                                                 
tax.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:43:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID BEEBE, SELF, PETERSBURG  (via teleconference),  supported                                                                 
public  education, AMHS,  public  broadcasting,  and other.  He                                                                 
supported  a sustainable  means  of revenue.  He recommended  a                                                                 
progressive  income  tax.  He  spoke  to the  importance  of  a                                                                 
sustainable civil society.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:44:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHELSEA  TREMBLAY,   SELF,  PETERSBURG  (via  teleconference),                                                                  
provided a  short story about her  family and how they  came to                                                                 
Alaska. She supported  AMHS, public schools, and public  radio.                                                                 
She  was  scared  about the  proposed  cuts.  She  supported  a                                                                 
reduced PFD, income tax, or oil tax revision.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:45:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DELBERT KADAKE  SELF, KAKE, testified  he would prefer  to give                                                                 
up the PFD than to  see the elimination of the AMHS.  He stated                                                                 
that sometimes  the ferries were  more affordable than  planes.                                                                 
Elders  in  the community   could not  always  fly  for  health                                                                 
reasons.  He  recommended   using  the  ferries  to   transport                                                                 
groceries to Southeast communities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:47:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HENRICH KADAKE,  SELF, KAKE, spoke  in strong support  of AMHS.                                                                 
He reported  there were many residents  in Kake that  could not                                                                 
afford to fly. He  had been the mayor of Kake for  15 years. He                                                                 
reported  that it had  taken 6  years to build  a terminal  for                                                                 
the ferry  and now it  was rarely used.  He stressed that  AMHS                                                                 
was the  highway for the  community. He  stated that  residents                                                                 
were  feeling the  pain for  the PFD.  He wanted  the ferry  to                                                                 
come to  Kake at least  once per week.  He argued that  the PFD                                                                 
was the peoples' money and should  not be paid out on the backs                                                                 
of Alaskans that used government services.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked Senator  Olson to co-chair the  meeting                                                                 
for the next portion.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:49:43 PM                                                                                                                    
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2:00:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI   JACOBSEN,  SELF,   GLENNALLEN   (via  teleconference),                                                                  
thought cutting  the state's spending should  be the number one                                                                 
priority.  She did  not  support spending  beyond  the  state's                                                                 
means. She did not  support an income tax because  she believed                                                                 
it was a disincentive  to work  hard. She supported  continuing                                                                 
to draw from  the Permanent Fund  or implementing a  sales tax.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  noted there were no other individuals  online                                                                 
at present.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:13 PM                                                                                                                    
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SCOTT   MACMANUS,   SUPERINTENDENT,   ALASKA   GATEWAY   SCHOOL                                                                 
DISTRICT,  TOK (via  teleconference),  opposed  the  governor's                                                                 
budget.  He supported funding  for public  education. He  spoke                                                                 
to the right to receive a public education.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  there  were no  additional testifiers                                                                  
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:48 PM                                                                                                                    
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2:18:43 PM                                                                                                                    
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SAM  SKAGGS,  SELF, SITKA  (via  teleconference),  opposed  the                                                                 
governor's  proposed budget. The  budget would cause  a massive                                                                 
deceleration  of the state's economy. He stated  it ignored the                                                                 
function   of  government   to   pool  and   distribute   money                                                                 
equitably.  He  felt  that  the  proposed  budget  bordered  on                                                                 
irresponsible.  He  did  not  support  a  retroactive  PFD.  He                                                                 
stressed that the  PF was designed to fund government  and help                                                                 
all  Alaskans  when the  oil  revenue  declined. He  urged  the                                                                 
committee not to support the governor's budget.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN  TODD, SELF,  VALDEZ  (via teleconference),  spoke  in                                                                 
opposition  to the governor's budget.  She supported  taxes and                                                                 
other sources of  income. She supported a limited  PFD and less                                                                 
subsidies to oil companies.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:22:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN HARDING,  SELF, CORDOVA  (via teleconference),  spoke  in                                                                 
opposition   to  cuts   to  public  education.   She   provided                                                                 
information about schools in the region.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:23:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PENELOPE OSWALT,  SELF, CORDOVA  (via teleconference),  opposed                                                                 
the  budget cuts  proposed  by  the governor.  She  stated  the                                                                 
budget gutted services  to provide a larger PFD.  She found the                                                                 
budget atrocious.  She urged  the legislature  to roll  back SB                                                                 
21 credits  to oil companies. She  supported funding  for pre-K                                                                 
and postsecondary  education. She  supported an income  tax and                                                                 
a reduced PFD. She  did not support taking raw fish  taxes from                                                                 
municipalities. She supported funding for the AMHS.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:25:42 PM                                                                                                                    
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KARL BECKER,  SELF, CORDOVA  (via teleconference),   emphasized                                                                 
the importance  of fisheries to  Cordova. He urged support  for                                                                 
AMHS and  Medicaid.  He supported  a graduated  income tax  and                                                                 
urged the legislature to consider the proposal.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:28:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA RELAY,  SELF, VALDEZ (via  teleconference),  urged the                                                                 
committee  to  oppose  drastic  cuts  to  the  University.  She                                                                 
discussed  that proposed  tuition  hikes would  unfairly  place                                                                 
the pain on the backs of students.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:29:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROSEMARY  CARLTON, FRIENDS  OF  SHELDON JACKSON  MUSEUM,  SITKA                                                                 
(via teleconference),  supported  an income  tax. She  strongly                                                                 
supported  the  continuation  of the  Sheldon  Jackson  Museum.                                                                 
Additionally,  she believed that  improvements on the  Stratton                                                                 
Library should  continue, allowing for parts  of the library to                                                                 
be leased.  She believed that sale  of the museum would  result                                                                 
in expensive  litigation.  She supported  reduced money  to oil                                                                 
companies. She wanted to keep the constitution as it was.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  they were  making  headway on  Sheldon                                                                 
Jackson.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:30:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FREDERICK  OLSON, SELF, SITKA (via  teleconference),  testified                                                                 
against  the  governor's   budget  proposal.  He   stated  that                                                                 
civilized  places did not sell  their museums. It was  shameful                                                                 
to  cut  senior services.   He supported  AMHS.  He  asked  the                                                                 
legislature to put thought into the budget.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATE  JOHNSON,  SELF,  SITKA (via  teleconference),   testified                                                                 
against  the  governor's  budget.  She opposed  cuts  to  AMHS,                                                                 
Medicaid,  education,   and  public  safety.  She   stated  the                                                                 
economic  impacts of  the budget  were unclear.  She asked  the                                                                 
legislature to craft a thoughtful bipartisan budget.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:33:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETH   SHORT-RHOADS,   SELF,   SITKA   (via   teleconference),                                                                  
testified  in support  of an  adequate level  of services.  She                                                                 
stressed that  lawmakers had the  responsibility to  ensure the                                                                 
basic functions  of government  were intact.  She felt  that if                                                                 
the  revenue was  not available  in  the general  fund that  it                                                                 
must come from the  Permanent Fund, the elimination  of oil tax                                                                 
credits, or an income tax.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER   MCNICHOL,   SELF,   SITKA   (via   teleconference),                                                                  
testified  in support  of  funds for  education.  She  lamented                                                                 
that educators  in  the state  faced challenges  unique to  the                                                                 
state.  She urged the legislature to maintain education  funds.                                                                 
She  did  not  believe  the  governor   should  be  allowed  to                                                                 
dismantle the education  system or to make fundamental  changes                                                                 
to the State Constitution.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:35:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KARA  KNOX,   SELF,  SITKA  (via   teleconference),   testified                                                                 
against  funding  cuts  to  public  education.  She  asked  the                                                                 
committee  to give full  funding support  for education  at all                                                                 
levels.  Cuts  would devastate  decades  of  effort  developing                                                                 
best practices  for education  in the  community. She  believed                                                                 
an income tax was necessary.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:36:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COLLAUNA MARLEY,  SELF, SITKA (via teleconference),  was afraid                                                                 
the  governor  was not  listening  to  residents.  She was  not                                                                 
afraid of  the red pen  the governor had  been seen wearing  in                                                                 
his shirt  pocket. She opposed  cuts proposed by the  governor.                                                                 
The community  needed a  share of the raw  fish tax to  support                                                                 
its  schools.  She  thanked  the  legislature   for  its  work;                                                                 
residents were counting on them.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICKEY BARKER, SELF,  SITKA (via teleconference),  testified in                                                                 
support  of the AMHS.  He had provided  written information  to                                                                 
legislators  as well. He stressed  the vital services  provided                                                                 
by AMHS.  He asked  the legislature  to consider  the  McDowell                                                                 
Group study conducted on the AMHS. He asserted  that the system                                                                 
provided a 200 percent return on investment for the state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:39:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  ETULAIN,   RAVEN   RADIO,  SITKA   (via  teleconference),                                                                  
testified  in  support   of  public  radio.  He  stressed   the                                                                 
importance   of   emergency   broadcasting,    news,   weather,                                                                 
community events, and other.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:40:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LISA SADLER-HART,  SELF, SITKA (via teleconference),  expressed                                                                 
strong opposition  to pre-K, K-12, and university  funding. She                                                                 
opposed  the   drastic  cuts  to   education.  She   asked  the                                                                 
legislature  to reduce the PFD  and to consider a state  income                                                                 
tax.  She  supported  the  decrease   in  tax  credits  to  oil                                                                 
companies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:41:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENEE  TRAFTON, SELF,  SITKA  (via teleconference),   supported                                                                 
AMHS, a reduced  PFD, and K-12  education, and the University.                                                                  
She supported a progressive income tax.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:41:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HARVEY  BRANDT, SELF,  SITKA (via teleconference),   understood                                                                 
both  sides   of  the  private/public   economy  equation.   He                                                                 
stressed  that the  public side  had to be  addressed -  roads,                                                                 
electricity,   and  labor  were   all  needed  before   private                                                                 
enterprise   would  invest  in   the  state.  He  opposed   the                                                                 
governor's  budget  and asked  members  to support  the  Senate                                                                 
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:43:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATH TRAFTON,  SELF, SITKA  (via teleconference),  opposed  the                                                                 
governor's budget.  He strongly supported public education  and                                                                 
the  University.  He  stressed  that if  the  University  fell,                                                                 
everyone  would fall.  He  opposed PFD  back  payment and  full                                                                 
PFDs in the current year. He stressed the importance  of making                                                                 
education a priority in the state.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:44:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA  DICK,  SELF,  SITKA (via  teleconference),   strongly                                                                 
opposed  the  governor's   budget.  She  referenced   a  recent                                                                 
roadshow  by the  governor across  the state  sponsored by  the                                                                 
Koch brothers.  She stressed that  Alaskans took care  of their                                                                 
children and elders. She urged against  any vetoes the governor                                                                 
may implement.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:45:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GRETCHEN  CLARK,   SELF,  SITKA  (via  teleconference),   spoke                                                                 
against cuts  to public health  and senior services.  She asked                                                                 
for  the preservation  of  Head  Start  and pre-K  grants.  She                                                                 
supported adult public  assistance and Medicaid. She  supported                                                                 
public broadcasting.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:47:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELISSA HALEY (ON  BEHALF OF KEITH BRADY), CITY  AND BOROUGH OF                                                                 
SITKA, SITKA (via teleconference),  testified in opposition  to                                                                 
a  reduction  in school  funding.  Sitka  voters had  voted  on                                                                 
school bond debt, contingent  on the debt payment by the state.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:48:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STACEY WAYNE,  SELF, SITKA  (via teleconference),  opposed  the                                                                 
governor's  budget.  She stated  that  the Permanent  Fund  was                                                                 
instituted  to provide funding  for vital public services  when                                                                 
oil revenue  ran out. She  was in favor  of an income  tax. She                                                                 
was  concerned  the  economy  had  been  damaged  by  residents                                                                 
leaving Alaska to find job security elsewhere.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:49:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BART  MEYER,  SELF,   SITKA  (via  teleconference),   spoke  in                                                                 
opposition  to  the detail  and  principle  of  the  governor's                                                                 
budget. He stressed  the budget was bad for Alaska,  Sitka, and                                                                 
his household.  He  supported increasing  revenues.  He was  in                                                                 
favor  of an  income  tax. He  counted  on the  legislature  to                                                                 
propose a reasonable balanced budget.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:50:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GRACE BROOKS,  SELF, SITKA  (via teleconference),  opposed  the                                                                 
governor's  budget. She  supported  a small  PFD. She  believed                                                                 
education  should be a  priority. She  supported an income  tax                                                                 
and  higher   taxes  on  oil  companies.   She  supported   the                                                                 
University and  opposed proposed cuts to the system.  She asked                                                                 
the legislature to alter the future the governor  was proposing                                                                 
for Alaska.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:51:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIZ  ZACHER,  SELF,   SITKA  (via  teleconference),   spoke  in                                                                 
support  of public  education.  She provided  detail about  her                                                                 
family.  She was deeply  troubled by proposed  cuts that  would                                                                 
deeply  hurt   vulnerable  Alaskans   including  children   and                                                                 
seniors.  She  supported  a  lower  PFD,  an  income  tax,  and                                                                 
increased taxes on oil companies.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY SWEENEY,  SELF, SITKA (via  teleconference), supported  oil                                                                 
tax  reconsideration,  modest  PFDs,  and  an income  tax.  She                                                                 
opposed major cuts to state services.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:54:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ARIEL  STARBUCK,  SELF, SITKA  (via teleconference),   implored                                                                 
the  legislature  to oppose  the governor's  proposed  cuts  to                                                                 
education.  She  noted  that  education  was  constitutionally                                                                  
mandated.  She asked  the  committee  to consider  passing  the                                                                 
House operating  budget. She discussed that the Permanent  Fund                                                                 
could be used  to cover the cost  of basic services  and other.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN BRANDT,  SELF, SITKA (via  teleconference),  urged the                                                                 
committee  to  decline  the  governor's  budget  that  cut  too                                                                 
deeply.  She pointed  to Finland  with its  high literacy  rate                                                                 
and higher spending on pre-K and K-12 education.  She supported                                                                 
funds for  senior services and  AMHS. She opposed deep  cuts to                                                                 
the University system.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:56:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM GIFFORD,  SELF, VALDEZ  (via teleconference),  opposed  the                                                                 
governor's budget  that would hurt the state for  many years to                                                                 
come. He supported  a reduced dividend  or no dividend.  He was                                                                 
in favor of adjustments to oil and gas taxes. He characterized                                                                  
the governor's cuts as draconian.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:57:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAUREEN  RADOTICH,  SELF, VALDEZ  (via  teleconference),  asked                                                                 
the legislature  to support core  services including  education                                                                 
and  healthcare.  She supported  reducing  or  eliminating  the                                                                 
PFD. She supported an income or payroll tax.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:58:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY  O'NEIL, SELF,  VALDEZ (via  teleconference),  testified                                                                 
in support of education  funding. He believed it was  important                                                                 
to invest  in education  in good  and bad  financial times.  He                                                                 
shared that he had  just lost an employee to Wyoming  and cited                                                                 
that states investment  in education. He believed  that the PFD                                                                 
was useless if it meant cuts to education.                                                                                      
2:59:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CULLEN,   SELF,  VALDEZ   (via  teleconference),   shared                                                                 
information  about his job  as a physician.  He was opposed  to                                                                 
cuts  that  would   hurt  rural  communities.   He  noted  that                                                                 
hospitals would close due to cuts and babies  and mothers could                                                                 
die. He opposed the governor's budget.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
BARB JEWELL,  CORDOVA COMMUNITY  MEDICAL  CENTER, CORDOVA  (via                                                                 
teleconference),   urged  the  committee  to  fully   fund  and                                                                 
include  intent language  that fully funds  Medicaid,  Medicaid                                                                 
expansion,  and Medicaid  grants.  She asserted  that  Medicaid                                                                 
funding had not kept  up with inflation and decreasing  funding                                                                 
would have  an exponential effect.  She pointed out  that rural                                                                 
hospitals were already  struggling under burdens of  regulation                                                                 
and poor  payments.  She discussed  the important  function  of                                                                 
behavioral health  grants. She asked the committee  to remember                                                                 
that investment  in health care was an investment  in Alaskans.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:01:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE HAHN, SELF,  CORDOVA (via teleconference),  had worked                                                                 
for  the legislature  for 16  years.  She did  not support  the                                                                 
governor's  proposed  budget.  She thought  the  proposed  cuts                                                                 
would   be  devastating   for   communities   and  businesses,                                                                  
especially  those  that  were  serviced  by  AMHS  or  received                                                                 
revenue  sharing from the  fisheries tax  and PCE Program.  She                                                                 
asked  the committee  to restore  the budget  to FY 19  funding                                                                 
levels.  She  thought  the  budget  shortfall  was politically                                                                  
created  and promised  free  money  with no  consequences.  She                                                                 
supported  a state income tax and  a reduction of the  PFD. She                                                                 
supported raising  the oil and gas tax structure  to the levels                                                                 
that existed in Norway.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:03:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW   SMALLWOOD,   SELF,   CORDOVA  (via   teleconference),                                                                  
supported  an income  tax. He  supported greater  taxes on  oil                                                                 
companies.  He supported restoration  of funding for  the FY 19                                                                 
budget levels.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:04:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETER HOEPFNER, SELF,  CORDOVA (via teleconference),  testified                                                                 
against  the  governor's  proposed  budget,  which  he  thought                                                                 
would decimate  cities and  communities  across Alaska.  He was                                                                 
a commercial  fisherman  and was  on the  Cordova School  Board                                                                 
and other  boards. He thought  the proposed  cuts would  have a                                                                 
devastating  effect on education  in Cordova. He discussed  the                                                                 
PCE Fund, the raw fish tax, and school bond debt reimbursement                                                                  
funding.  He thought  the cost-shifting  effects  would  burden                                                                 
cities.  He discussed  cuts to  education  funding. He  thought                                                                 
education  had been  flat funded  for years.  He discussed  the                                                                 
increase in CPI Index versus the increase in the BSA.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:06:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KENT  BARKHAU, SELF,  SITKA  (via teleconference),   associated                                                                 
himself  with remarks from  previous testifiers  regarding  the                                                                 
governor's  proposed  budget. He  thought the  budget  proposal                                                                 
was   mean-spirited   and  would   affect  the   state's   most                                                                 
vulnerable  citizens  the  most.  He  asked  the  committee  to                                                                 
restore the budget.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NORM  CARSON,  CITY  OF PELICAN,   PELICAN,  expressed  concern                                                                 
about proposed  budget cuts to AMHS. He noted that  Pelican did                                                                 
not  have a  road  or barge  service,  and  all goods  came  to                                                                 
Pelican through  the AMHS or by air freight. He recounted  that                                                                 
in  2012 Pelican's  economy  had struggled.  He  discussed  the                                                                 
genesis  of  a  fish  processing  facility  in  Pelican,  which                                                                 
employed 24  people in Pelican.  He supported an income  tax, a                                                                 
school tax, a reduced PFD, and a reduced fish tax.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
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3:39:08 PM                                                                                                                    
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Co-Chair Stedman handed the gavel to Senator Olson.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:40:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HERMAN MORGAN, SELF,  ANIAK (via teleconference) supported  the                                                                 
governor's  proposed budget. He  expressed concern that  native                                                                 
voices were not being  heard in the legislature.  He quoted the                                                                 
bible. He did not think  the children of Alaska were  receiving                                                                 
a quality education.  He did not want to balance  the budget on                                                                 
the backs  of children. He supported  funding for Medicaid.  He                                                                 
urged the committee to work with the governor.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLIF PASSMORE,  SELF, EAGLE RIVER  (via teleconference),  spoke                                                                 
in support  of the  Ocean Rangers  Program.  He was a  licensed                                                                 
mariner.  He discussed the  role of Ocean  Rangers. He  thought                                                                 
there  had  been  misleading  information  put  out  about  the                                                                 
program.  He  discussed  violations  made  by  Carnival  Cruise                                                                 
Lines and other cruise lines.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRIS  EICHENLAUB,  SELF,  EAGLE  RIVER  (via  teleconference),                                                                  
fully  supported the  governor's  proposed budget.  He  thought                                                                 
the  state's  educations  system  was a  complete  failure.  He                                                                 
thought  there should  be  a reorganization  of  the  education                                                                 
system. He thought  there needed to be a commission  to look at                                                                 
reorganization.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:45:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE  BERGLUND, THREAD,  ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),                                                                  
encouraged  investment  in  young children  and  families.  She                                                                 
discussed  reading   proficiency  scores  in  the   state.  She                                                                 
supported  funding  for  Head Start  and  Pre-K  programs.  She                                                                 
referenced research about early childhood support.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:46:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  RUTECKI,  SELF,  JUNEAU (via  teleconference),   supported                                                                 
funding for  the WWAMI program.  He was a marine biologist  and                                                                 
had worked with 6 Alaska  high school students who  had studies                                                                 
with  the WWAMI  program  and had  returned  to  the state.  He                                                                 
thought being part  of WWAMI gave students an edge  to get into                                                                 
University of Washington in a competitive environment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:48:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLENE  ARNESON,  CHUGATCH  SCHOOL  DISTRICT,  WHITTIER  (via                                                                 
teleconference),  thought the governor's proposed  budget would                                                                 
not sufficiently  support education. She warned that  increased                                                                 
class sized would severely limit the purchasing  power of basic                                                                 
needs for students  and teachers. She discussed  years of flat-                                                                 
funding  and the forward  funding from  the previous year.  She                                                                 
thought  the cost of doing  business had  increased and  should                                                                 
be reflected in funding for education.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:16 PM                                                                                                                    
GEORGE   PIERCE,  CHUGATCH   SCHOOL  DISTRICT,   KASILOF   (via                                                                 
teleconference),  did not support the governor's   He discussed                                                                 
severance  taxes and thought incentives  to oil producers  were                                                                 
hurting the state. He believed  that SB 21 should be revisited.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT MORGAN, SELF,  SAND POINT (via teleconference),  spoke on                                                                 
behalf  of funding  for public  broadcasting.  He saw the  need                                                                 
for a  balanced budget.  He stated that  people in rural  areas                                                                 
of the state relied on public broadcasting.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NICK RUTECKI,  SELF, JUNEAU (via  teleconference), was  against                                                                 
the governor's  proposed  budget cuts. He  understood the  need                                                                 
for  reducing spending.  He  discussed  the importance  of  the                                                                 
WWAMI program.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN TEROGETTE,  SELF, KOTZEBUE  (via teleconference),  was in                                                                 
support  of full  funding  for PCE,  the VPSO  Program,  public                                                                 
broadcasting,  education,  and the  University  of Alaska.  She                                                                 
felt there was a priority  crisis rather than a fiscal  crisis.                                                                 
She was  willing to accept  a reduced PFD  or an income  tax in                                                                 
exchange  for  state services.  She  argued  that distributing                                                                  
larger PFDs,  while cutting  basic state  services, would  lead                                                                 
to a decreased quality of life in rural Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:55:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIERSTEN    JORGENSON,    WWAMI    GRADUATE,     BOSTON    (via                                                                 
teleconference),  testified  in support of  the WWAMI  program.                                                                 
She  had been  born and  raised in  Juneau and  had  benefitted                                                                 
from the program. She thought cutting  the Alaska WWAMI program                                                                 
would be short-sighted.  She said  that returning to  Alaska to                                                                 
practice  was  the goal  of  the majority  of  Alaskan  student                                                                 
enrolled in the program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:57:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  MARTIN,   INTERIOR   COMMUNITY  CENTER,   FAIRBANKS   (via                                                                 
teleconference),  spoke in support of human services  community                                                                 
matching  grants.  He noted  that  the  funding had  helped  to                                                                 
provide  integrated  behavioral  health  services  to over  480                                                                 
patients. He discussed  Medicaid Adult Dental. He  thought many                                                                 
people would  not be able to maintain  oral health if  services                                                                 
were cut, which would lead to emergency room visits.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:58:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARILYN  TOUPE,  SELF,  FAIRBANKS  (via  teleconference),   was                                                                 
concerned  about   cuts  to  the  Medicaid  program.   She  was                                                                 
concerned about  the potential loss of federal matching  funds.                                                                 
She was concerned  about reimbursement  for life-saving  cancer                                                                 
medications.   She  relayed  that  government  assistance   was                                                                 
necessary in order to maintain and improve the program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELANIE  LESH,  SELF,  GUSTAVUS  (via  teleconference),  was  a                                                                 
supporter of public  broadcasting, the ferry system,  and other                                                                 
state services.  She thanked  the members  and staff for  their                                                                 
service.  She hoped  that  the legislature  would  accept  that                                                                 
budget cuts alone would not supplant  the loss of oil revenues,                                                                 
due  to the decades  long  price reduction,  and  look for  new                                                                 
revenue streams to preserve essential services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:01:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN JOYCE, SELF, JUNEAU  (via teleconference),  asked for full                                                                 
funding for the  WWAMI program. He had come to Alaska  23 years                                                                 
previously.  He thought education  was critical for  the future                                                                 
of the  state.  He had  talked with  many physicians  that  had                                                                 
been in  the WWAMI program  and had returned  to the state.  He                                                                 
thought  that  without  the  program,   the  state  would  have                                                                 
difficulty  training and  retaining medical  professionals.  He                                                                 
was  concerned   about   proposed  cuts   to  the  University,                                                                  
particularly in the areas of science and technology.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:03:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  HIGGINS,  SELF, FORT  YUKON  (via teleconference),   asked                                                                 
that the  committee support  funding for  public broadcasting.                                                                  
He thought public broadcasting  saved lives. He relayed a story                                                                 
about two men that  fell through the ice and had  been saved by                                                                 
information relayed by radio station communication.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:04:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANICE MICHAUB-WHALEN,  BOARD MEMBER,  CONNECTING TIES,  VALDEZ                                                                 
(via  teleconference),  testified  in  support of  funding  for                                                                 
Medicaid.  She was happy  with a smaller  PFD or an income  tax                                                                 
if it meant  services would be  available to seniors,  disabled                                                                 
people,  and low-income  Alaskans.  She  relayed  that she  had                                                                 
been a  special education  teacher  for 4 years  and urged  the                                                                 
committee   to  support  funding   for  children  that   needed                                                                 
additional educational support.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:06:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICKY   THOMAS,   SELF,  FORT   YUKON   (via  teleconference),                                                                  
supported  funding  for  public  broadcasting.  She  emphasized                                                                 
that public  broadcasting provided  information that  pertained                                                                 
to the health and safety of her community.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:07:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HANS JAMES,  SELF, FORT  YUKON (via teleconference),  spoke  in                                                                 
support  of public broadcasting.  He was  a council member  for                                                                 
the  City  of Fort  Yukon.  He  discussed  the  many  important                                                                 
aspects  of public broadcasting,  including  search and  rescue                                                                 
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:08:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TINA SCANLAN,  CITY MANAGER, AKUTAN  (via teleconference),  did                                                                 
not support  the governor's proposed  budget. He was  concerned                                                                 
about elimination  of the Chinook Fishery Business  Tax and the                                                                 
Chinook  Fishery Resource  Lending  Tax Program.  He said  that                                                                 
the funds helped to pay for capital improvement  grants. Losing                                                                 
the  funding source  would  have a  devastating  impact on  the                                                                 
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:09:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATHAN HILL, SELF, KOKHANOK  (via teleconference),  was manager                                                                 
for  the  Lake  and  Peninsula  Borough  School   District.  He                                                                 
discussed  school bond  debt reimbursement.  He expressed  that                                                                 
the borough had relied in the grants  and that there were grave                                                                 
short, and long term, affects.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:11:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATASHA SINGH,  SELF, FAIRBANKS  (via teleconference),  did not                                                                 
support  the governor's  proposed  budget. She  explained  that                                                                 
she  was   part  of  the  Alaska   Regional  Coalition,   which                                                                 
represented  100 communities from  Kotzebue to Ketchikan.   She                                                                 
discussed the importance  of healthcare and regional  equity in                                                                 
budget considerations.  She urged  the preservation  of funding                                                                 
for  improvements  to rural  public  safety and  Medicaid.  She                                                                 
said  that the  coalition would  work  with the  state to  find                                                                 
efficiencies without deep budget cuts.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:13:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAUREEN KNUTSEN,  SELF, NAKNEK  (via teleconference),  had been                                                                 
a resident  of Bristol  Bay since 1975.  She supported  funding                                                                 
for public  broadcasting.  She had been  a long-time member  of                                                                 
the  citizen   advisory   board.  She   asserted  that   public                                                                 
broadcasting  was the  only source  for news,  weather,  tides,                                                                 
fishing    announcements,     and    emergency    and    safety                                                                 
announcements.   She discussed  the potential  loss of  federal                                                                 
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:14:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NICKI  SHELDON,  SELF,  HOONAH  (via  teleconference),   was  a                                                                 
national  trainer for the  Parents as  Teachers. She  supported                                                                 
an  income  tax. She  encouraged  funding  for  early  learning                                                                 
programs.  She  had emailed  a  letter  to the  committee.  She                                                                 
shared  that without  early learning  programs,  more  children                                                                 
would  enter  kindergarten  without  school  readiness  skills,                                                                 
which would require  increased spending for remedial  services.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:16:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RUSSEL  LYMAN, SELF,  HAINES  (via teleconference),   expressed                                                                 
his support for funding for public media. He referenced  public                                                                 
safety  issues   as  discussed   by  previous  testifiers.   He                                                                 
discussed  the  importance  of  tsunami  warnings  and  weather                                                                 
reports.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:17:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIKA  WOLTER,  SELF,   BIG  LAKE  (via  teleconference),   was                                                                 
strongly  opposed  to  the  governor's  budget.  She  supported                                                                 
alternative  ways to  increase revenue,  even  if it meant  not                                                                 
receiving  a PFD. She said  that she would  rather see  support                                                                 
go to those who need it, rather than into her own pocket.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:18:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WENDY  FELDBAUER,   SELF,  SAND  POINT  (via  teleconference),                                                                  
testified  in  support of  public  broadcasting.  She  asserted                                                                 
that  public  broadcasting   was  crucial  to  remote   fishing                                                                 
villages.                                                                                                                       
4:19:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
IDA  NELSON,  SELF, IGIUGIG  (via  teleconference),   supported                                                                 
funding for Medicaid.  She was not in favor of  oil and gas tax                                                                 
credits.  She was not in  favor of reducing  the VPSO  program.                                                                 
She  was in  favor  of  a reduced  PFD.  She  supported  public                                                                 
broadcasting. She was in favor of early funding  for education.                                                                 
She supported an  income tax. She did not support  a sales tax.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:21:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PHYLLIS BOTTAI,  SELF, PALMER (via  teleconference),  supported                                                                 
funding for  senior benefits. She  was in favor of a  sales tax                                                                 
and  an  income  tax.  She  warned   that  the  cuts  would  be                                                                 
detrimental to senior's quality of life.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:22:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL MCGINTY,  SELF, PALMER (via teleconference),  supported                                                                 
funding for Medicaid  and senior services. He pointed  out that                                                                 
seniors were becoming a larger  group in Alaska and were living                                                                 
at, or below, poverty.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson handed the gavel to Co-Chair Stedman.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:23:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOAN  TOWER,  SELF,  PALMER  (via  teleconference),   supported                                                                 
funding for  senior services. She  supported funding  for Meals                                                                 
on Wheels.  She supported  a state  income tax.  She said  that                                                                 
not  holding harmless  for  PFDs would  force  many seniors  to                                                                 
lose their Medicaid and force people to use emergency  services                                                                 
for their care.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:24:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHERINE  HALL, SELF,  PALMER  (via teleconference),  did  not                                                                 
support  the  governor's  budget.  She  supported  funding  for                                                                 
senior  benefits  and  noted than  some  seniors  were  already                                                                 
living  below   poverty  level.   She  supported  funding   for                                                                 
education and drug  treatment programs. She lamented  that poor                                                                 
people in  the state would suffer  disproportionately  from the                                                                 
budget cuts.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:25:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRED  TRABER,  SELF,  PALMER  (via  teleconference),   was  the                                                                 
interim  executive  director  of  Mat-Su  Senior  Services.  He                                                                 
stated  that his  organization  operated  on a  tenuous  budget                                                                 
comprised  of  state  funding,  state  grants,   Medicaid,  and                                                                 
private  donations. The  organization provided  over 300  meals                                                                 
to Alaskans daily.  Many of the residents came to  the facility                                                                 
when homeless. He requested  the legislature continued  funding                                                                 
at past levels.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:27:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman handed the gavel to Senator Olson.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA  SIEGAL,  SELF, BREVIG  MISSION  (via teleconference),                                                                  
encouraged  funding for education,  VPSO programs, WWHAMI,  the                                                                 
hold harmless  provision,  and PCE. She  urged the legislature                                                                  
to reduce  the PFD,  bring back  an income  tax, and  eliminate                                                                 
oil and gas tax credits.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:28:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON   JOHNSON,    SELF,   FAIRBANKS    (via   teleconference),                                                                  
appreciated   the  committee's   critical  evaluation   of  the                                                                 
governor's  proposed budget. He  supported modest budget  cuts.                                                                 
He  was  in favor  of  an  increase  to the  gasoline  tax.  He                                                                 
supported a simple income tax.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:29:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  KELPY, MAYOR,  CITY OF  UNALASKA  (via teleconference),                                                                  
spoke  in opposition  to the  governor's budget.  He hoped  the                                                                 
committee  would  hold the  bill pertaining  to  a shared  fish                                                                 
tax. He calculated  that the bill would cause suffering  in his                                                                 
community. He discussed  the proposed reduction  to the BSA. He                                                                 
discussed  the 94 percent  graduation rate  in Unalaska,  where                                                                 
there was a Blue-Ribbon  school. He expressed concern  for cuts                                                                 
to AMHS.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:31:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  FELDBAUER,   SELF,  SAND  POINT  (via  teleconference),                                                                  
supported   funding  for  public   education  and  for   public                                                                 
broadcasting.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:32:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHY RENFELDT, SELF,  CORDOVA (via teleconference),  supported                                                                 
funding  for AMHS.  She noted  that 6  of the  nation's top  12                                                                 
ports  for  seafood  landing  relied  on  AMHS  as  their  only                                                                 
connection  to the road system.  She emphasized the  importance                                                                 
of a year-round  ferry  system. She stressed  that dismantling                                                                  
the system  would force  the 27 communities  off the hard  road                                                                 
system  to route  their purchases  through  Seattle,  bypassing                                                                 
Anchorage, and the rest of Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:33:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  MURRAY,  SELF, ELIM  (via  teleconference),  voiced  her                                                                 
support  for funding the  PCE program, the  fish tax, and  Head                                                                 
Start.  She noted that her hometown was Golovin.  She supported                                                                 
funding for Medicaid.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:34:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL ANDERSON,  SELF, CORDOVA (via teleconference),  did not                                                                 
support  the governor's  budget. He thought  funding should  be                                                                 
restored to 2018 levels. He supported  a smaller PFD, an income                                                                 
tax, and eliminating oil and gas tax credits.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY TITUS, SELF, WHITE  MOUNTAIN (via teleconference),  was the                                                                 
city  clerk for  White  Mountain.  She  urged support  for  the                                                                 
Community  Assistance  Program and  Payment in  Lieu of  Taxes,                                                                 
two programs  vital to the budget  of White Mountain.  She said                                                                 
that the PCE  program was important  to her village.  She urged                                                                 
support for funding for education and the VPSO program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:37:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBRA SCHNABEL,  SELF, HAINES,  wanted to  express support  for                                                                 
rural  coastal communities.  She  wanted a  budget that  funded                                                                 
education,  transportation,   and communication.   She  thought                                                                 
private  industry would  not invest  in a state  that had  weak                                                                 
infrastructure.   She  noted that  Haines  participated in  the                                                                 
school debt  reimbursement program  and would suffer  if it was                                                                 
forced to cover the costs alone.                                                                                                
4:39:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  thanked his constituents  that had  called in                                                                 
and had dropped calls. He shared that those constituents  could                                                                 
send letters to the committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed housekeeping.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 20 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SB 21 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
4:41:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 4:41 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 20 Public Testimony Packet 7.pdf SFIN 4/12/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Public Testimony _ Hayes.pdf SFIN 4/12/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Public Testimony Packet 8.pdf SFIN 4/12/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 20
SB 20 Public Testimony Packet 9.pdf SFIN 4/12/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 20