Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/06/2019 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:01:45 AM Start
09:03:22 AM Consideration of Lieutenant Governor Successor Appointee:
09:46:04 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+ Consideration of Lieutenant Governor Successor TELECONFERENCED
Appointee:
Dr. Michael Johnson, Commissioner Department of
Education & Early Development
                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 6, 2019                                                                                           
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:01:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Michael Johnson,  Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                                    
Early Development.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^CONSIDERATION OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR SUCCESSOR APPOINTEE:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:03:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL JOHNSON,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  EDUCATION AND                                                                    
EARLY DEVELOPMENT,  stated that  he was  born and  raised in                                                                    
Georgia. His father  was an engineer, and his  mother was an                                                                    
administrative  assistant. He  stated  that his  grandmother                                                                    
was a schoolteacher,  and an influence in his  life. He came                                                                    
to Alaska originally for summer  camp, and then received his                                                                    
teaching certificate. He  stated that he taught  in a multi-                                                                    
grade  school   in  a  Copper  River   School  District.  He                                                                    
eventually  became   a  principal  at  a   school  and  then                                                                    
superintendent.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  queried the reason  that he should  be the                                                                    
successor to the lieutenant governor.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson  stated that he had  never been elected                                                                    
to public office.  He shared that he had  led the Department                                                                    
of  Education and  Early  Development  (DEED), and  Governor                                                                    
Dunleavy knew his character.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:05:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  von  Imhof  noted that  the  Copper  River  School                                                                    
District  had broadband  connectivity  that had  transformed                                                                    
the district. She  queried how the efforts  in broadband may                                                                    
have influenced his appointment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson explained his  experience in the school                                                                    
district. He  remarked that the  students had  received less                                                                    
options  for the  education,  and  remarked that  technology                                                                    
allowed for  expanding their educational options  while also                                                                    
reducing costs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  remarked that it was  possible for the                                                                    
successor  to assume  the role  of  lieutenant governor.  He                                                                    
queried the general philosophy of government.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied that  his general philosophy of                                                                    
government is that it is "of  the people, by the people, and                                                                    
for the people."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  queried   the  issues   of  initiatives,                                                                    
referendums, and recalls.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:10:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson  replied that he was  currently focused                                                                    
on his job as commissioner.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  queried the  potential duties  of guarding                                                                    
the state seal.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson replied  that  the state  seal is  the                                                                    
only seal  that has a  seal in  the state seal.  He remarked                                                                    
that  the  use of  the  state  seal was  prohibited  without                                                                    
permission from the lieutenant governor.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  wondered whether  he should  be considered                                                                    
"Doctor Johnson."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied in the affirmative.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  wondered  whether  his  resume  was  old,                                                                    
because it did include his job of commissioner.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied that  he had not updated resume                                                                    
since he became commissioner.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche noted  that there  were  some issues  with                                                                    
election integrity.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson  replied  that  there  was  a  mission                                                                    
statement to address that issue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman queried  the travel  experience in  Alaska,                                                                    
particularly those in western Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson replied  that  he was  able to  travel                                                                    
above the  Arctic Circle, and  he had also traveled  to many                                                                    
other rural sites.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  wondered whether Commissioner  Johnson knew                                                                    
the location of the community of Igiugig.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied that he did not know.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  stressed that every community  had a school                                                                    
and it was the focal point of the community.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:15:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson  replied that in his  experience, those                                                                    
facilities  were an  integral part  of community.  He stated                                                                    
that he  used the  word, "community"  as both  a noun  and a                                                                    
verb.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman wondered  how  the  current funding  status                                                                    
could  be viewed,  and asked  whether the  people of  Alaska                                                                    
were served adequately.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied  that he did not  feel that the                                                                    
education system was adequately serving Alaskans.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski wondered whether  there was support for                                                                    
the   governor's  budget,   which  cut   $20  million   from                                                                    
education, and whether he was  consulted beforehand. He also                                                                    
wondered  whether  school  districts were  consulted  before                                                                    
that cut was made to examine the impacts.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Johnson  replied   that   he  supported   the                                                                    
governor's proposed  supplemental budget. He stated  that he                                                                    
was  consulted  on the  governor's  budget.  He discussed  a                                                                    
number of  possibilities to  meet the needs  as a  result of                                                                    
the  earthquake.   He  stated   that  he  did   not  consult                                                                    
individual  school  districts  before the  $20  million  cut                                                                    
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof queried plans  to run for  higher office                                                                    
in the future.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied in the negative.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson queried  the concept  of boarding  schools in                                                                    
hub communities. He stated that  he had a good experience in                                                                    
boarding school.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson  replied  that  it  was  important  to                                                                    
define  boarding  school. He  stated  that  there were  some                                                                    
incidences where  students were forced to  attend a boarding                                                                    
school, and he  did not support that  practice. He supported                                                                    
the current residential school programs in the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  wondered whether there  were plans  to create                                                                    
regional boarding schools.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson  replied  that he  was  not  currently                                                                    
working on any new boarding  schools. He noted that he would                                                                    
like a  dozen more Northwestern Career  and Technical Center                                                                    
(NACTEC) style schools.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  noted that the graduation  before NACTEC was                                                                    
in the low  40 percent. The graduation rates  were almost in                                                                    
the 80 percent range.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:24:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson  noted that  it was  a privilege  to do                                                                    
the  study  with the  people  who  were generous  enough  to                                                                    
continue with the project.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski   remarked  that  voter   turnout  had                                                                    
decreased in the  state. He wondered whether  there were any                                                                    
election reforms, or ways to increase voter turnout.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson replied  that  he had  not given  much                                                                    
thought to  election reform, except recognizing  that it was                                                                    
a  responsibility.  He stated  that,  if  he served  in  the                                                                    
position, he would  serve with the humility  knowing that he                                                                    
was serving in elected office.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked whether  there would  be interesting                                                                    
things on the internet.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson  replied  that  he was  not  aware  of                                                                    
anything on the internet.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered whether  he had ever been arrested                                                                    
or indicted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied that he had not.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  asked   whether  he   had  provided   an                                                                    
embellished resume.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied that he had not.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman did  not  want the  public  to take  those                                                                    
questions out  of context. The  questions were  unrelated to                                                                    
the history of the appointee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:30:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  felt  that the  highest  honor  had  been                                                                    
commissioner  of  the  Department  of  Education  and  Early                                                                    
Development, so he encouraged the  appointee to include that                                                                    
on his resume.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson  agreed to update his  resume. He noted                                                                    
that it was the same resume  that he had used throughout his                                                                    
career.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop   understood  what   it  felt  like   to  be                                                                    
questioned on  the other  side of the  table. He  also noted                                                                    
the  right  of  privacy. He  wondered  whether  Commissioner                                                                    
Johnson had seen the movie, "Trading Places."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson replied that he had not.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  felt that there  be a better black  pen used                                                                    
on the resume for privacy.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski wondered  whether  additional cuts  to                                                                    
education funding could be sustained.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman felt that was a budget question.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson remarked  that  it was  never easy  to                                                                    
make budget  cuts, but  had confidence  in the  families and                                                                    
educators of  Alaska to  provide the  best education  to the                                                                    
students in the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stressed that  education was a  concern of                                                                    
the committee, and encouraged a presentation on the budget.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:35:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  wondered   whether  the  constitution                                                                    
should be changed  to allow for public funds to  be used for                                                                    
private or religious schools.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson responded  that the constitution should                                                                    
not  be changed  without the  vote of  people, and  a change                                                                    
like that required a very serious conversation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski wanted  to  know the  position on  the                                                                    
issue, as the DEED commissioner.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson  responded that  he  did  not want  to                                                                    
avoid  the  question, but  he  did  not  want to  create  an                                                                    
unrealistic box.  He noted that many  families used publicly                                                                    
funded homeschool  opportunities, so  he would not  want his                                                                    
answer to  prevent them from  accessing some of  the options                                                                    
available. He did not believe it included private schools.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  felt that  there would be  a cost  and needs                                                                    
analysis to the issue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Johnson agreed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:40:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  wondered  whether,  if  he  were  in  the                                                                    
position of  Lt. Governor, and  a citizen's  initiative that                                                                    
had constitutional  challenges, he  would follow the  law in                                                                    
accordance with the constitution.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Johnson  replied that  he  would  put the  law                                                                    
before his own personal bias.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:42:00 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:44:13 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  FORWARDED   the  appointment  of  Michael                                                                    
Johnson   for  consideration   in  accordance   with  Alaska                                                                    
Statute. He relayed  that this did not reflect  an intent by                                                                    
any member Senate  Finance Committee to vote  for or against                                                                    
the  confirmation  of  the  individual  during  any  further                                                                    
sessions.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed the following day's agenda.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
9:46:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 a.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Confirmation Resume Johnson 2019.pdf SFIN 2/6/2019 9:00:00 AM
Confirmations 2019