Legislature(2009 - 2010)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/13/2009 09:00 AM FINANCE


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+= SB 10 MEDICAID/INS FOR CANCER CLINICAL TRIALS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
= SB 110 PRESERVATION OF EVIDENCE
Heard & Held
+= SB 133 ELECTRONIC HEALTH INFO EXCHANGE SYSTEM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 133(HSS) Out of Committee
+ SB 171 PERMANENT FUND DIVIDEND FOR DECEASED TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 177 NO REPEAL OF SPORT FISH GUIDE LICENSING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                       April 13, 2009                                                                                           
                         9:27 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:27:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman called the Senate  Finance Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 9:27 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hollis  French; Sue  Stancliff,  Special  Assistant,                                                                   
Department  of  Public  Safety;   Anne  Carpeneti,  Assistant                                                                   
Attorney  General,  Legal Services  Section-Juneau,  Criminal                                                                   
Division,   Department  of   Law;   William  Streur,   Deputy                                                                   
Commissioner,  Medicaid & Health  Care Policy, Department  of                                                                   
Health  and Social  Services;  Senator  Kevin Meyer;  Deborah                                                                   
Bitney,   Director,   Permanent  Fund   Division;   Christine                                                                   
Marasigan,  Staff,  Senator  Kevin  Meyer;  Darwin  Peterson,                                                                   
Staff, Co-Chair Stedman; Charles  Swanton, Director, Division                                                                   
of Sport  Fish, Department of  Fish and Game;  Andy Szczesny,                                                                   
Owner  Alaska  Fish and  Float,  Kenai; Reuben  Hanke,  Self,                                                                   
Soldotna;  Steve McClure,  self, Kenai;  David Goggia,  self;                                                                   
Ricky Gease,  Executive Director,  Kenai River Sport  Fishing                                                                   
Association.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Orin  Dym, Forensic  Lab  Supervisor, Crime  Lab  Supervisor,                                                                   
Department of  Public Safety;  Bill Oberly, Alaska  Innocence                                                                   
Project; John  Lucking, Police  Chief Soldotna; Gary  Turner,                                                                   
chair,  Kenai  College;  Beverly Minn,  Self;  Melvin  Grove,                                                                   
Matsu, Self.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 10     "An Act requiring health care insurers to provide                                                                     
          insurance coverage for medical care received by a                                                                     
          patient during certain approved clinical trials                                                                       
          designed   to   test    and   improve   prevention,                                                                   
          diagnosis,  treatment,  or  palliation  of  cancer;                                                                   
          directing  the  Department  of  Health  and  Social                                                                   
          Services  to provide  Medicaid services to  persons                                                                   
          who participate in those  clinical trials; relating                                                                   
          to  experimental  procedures  under  a  state  plan                                                                   
          offered  by  the  Comprehensive   Health  Insurance                                                                   
          Association; and providing  for an effective date."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          SB 10 was SCHEDULED but not HEARD                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SB 110    "An Act relating to  the preservation of evidence."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          SB 110 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 133    "An  Act  creating a  statewide  electronic  health                                                                   
          information  exchange system; and providing  for an                                                                   
          effective date."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          SB 133 was REPORTED out of Committee with a "do                                                                       
          pass" recommendation  and a new fiscal  impact note                                                                   
          from the Department  of Health and Social Services.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SB 171    "An Act relating to  the permanent fund dividend of                                                                   
          an otherwise  qualified individual who  dies during                                                                   
          the   qualifying  year;   and   providing  for   an                                                                   
          effective date."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          SB 171 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 177    "An Act repealing the  termination of licensing and                                                                   
          regulation  of sport  fishing  operators and  sport                                                                   
          fishing  guides and  licensing and registration  of                                                                   
          sport  fishing   vessels;  and  providing   for  an                                                                   
          effective date."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          SB 177 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 10                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  requiring  health  care  insurers  to  provide                                                                   
     insurance  coverage  for  medical  care  received  by  a                                                                   
     patient   during   certain  approved   clinical   trials                                                                   
     designed  to  test and  improve  prevention,  diagnosis,                                                                   
     treatment,  or  palliation   of  cancer;  directing  the                                                                   
     Department  of Health  and  Social  Services to  provide                                                                   
     Medicaid  services to persons  who participate  in those                                                                   
     clinical  trials;  relating to  experimental  procedures                                                                   
     under a state  plan offered by the  Comprehensive Health                                                                   
     Insurance  Association; and  providing for an  effective                                                                   
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SB 10 was SCHEDULED but not HEARD                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:28:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 110                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the preservation of evidence."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:29:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOLLIS FRENCH,                                                                                                          
     The American  system of justice is founded  on balancing                                                                   
     the twin  protections of the  rights of those  harmed by                                                                   
     crimes,  and  the  rights  of  the  accused.    Criminal                                                                   
     convictions  are  guided  by evidence  of  innocence  or                                                                   
     guilt, and  no one in the criminal justice  system wants                                                                   
     innocent people  to be convicted of crimes  they did not                                                                   
     commit.   The availability and use of  physical evidence                                                                   
     at trials  and during appeals  is a critical piece  of a                                                                   
     meaningful justice system.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Modern    DNA   technology,    coupled   with    today's                                                                   
     comprehensive     information     and     communications                                                                   
     technologies, has  exponentially increased the  power of                                                                   
     preserved  evidence. Preserved  evidence can solve  cold                                                                   
     cases and prove or disprove  claims of innocence in ways                                                                   
     unimaginable  just a  few years  ago.   The problem  is,                                                                   
     however,  that  evidence   collection  and  preservation                                                                   
     policies  have  not  always  kept pace  with  these  new                                                                   
     technologies.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Senate  Bill  110  begins   to  address  this  issue  by                                                                   
     requiring that biological  evidence in murder and sexual                                                                   
     assault  cases  is  properly retained  while  cases  are                                                                   
     unsolved and during the period  after conviction that an                                                                   
     offender is imprisoned or  required to register as a sex                                                                   
     offender.     The   bill  still   provides  for   police                                                                   
     departments to  return or dispose of evidence  too large                                                                   
     to  keep  after  portions  of  the  material  likely  to                                                                   
     contain  biological  evidence   have  been  removed  and                                                                   
     preserved.   The bill provides  for a notice  process in                                                                   
     cases  where   evidence  will   be  destroyed,   and  it                                                                   
     establishes  a temporary  task  force to  look at  other                                                                   
     issues  involved in  this emerging  field of  technology                                                                   
     and make  recommendations on standards and  practices in                                                                   
     cataloging and handling evidence.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator French shared a story  about a boy in Denver Colorado                                                                   
convicted  of   murder  at  age   15  that  spent   10  years                                                                   
incarcerated.    Following     the    boy's    release    the                                                                   
deoxyribonucleic   acid   (DNA)   evidence,   retrieved   and                                                                   
preserved from the  crime scene revealed that he  was in fact                                                                   
innocent. He  informed that cases  such as the  one mentioned                                                                   
led him  to sponsor  the bill.  He continued  that this  bill                                                                   
requires   police  officers   to  retain   evidence  in   two                                                                   
categories, physical  and DNA. Once a person  is convicted of                                                                   
a  crime  and incarcerated,  the  small  bits  of  biological                                                                   
evidence remain  preserved in  a crime laboratory.  The bulky                                                                   
material is  retained until the  time of the trial.  The bill                                                                   
only applies  to the most serious  of crimes. The idea  is to                                                                   
retain  evidence and  ensure that  incarcerated citizens  are                                                                   
indeed guilty.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Chair Stedman asked for a sectional  analysis. Senator French                                                                   
complied.  He referred  to  Section 1,  which  creates a  new                                                                   
provision  in  the  criminal code  for  the  preservation  of                                                                   
evidence   requiring  state   agencies   and  municipal   law                                                                   
enforcement agencies  to preserve  all evidence that  relates                                                                   
to  unsolved cases  of  murder in  the  first degree,  sexual                                                                   
assault,  and first  degree sexual  assault of  a minor.  The                                                                   
section further  requires that  biological evidence  in these                                                                   
crimes  be retained  while a  person is  incarcerated in  the                                                                   
custody of the Department of Corrections (DOC).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:33:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  French continued  that  if a  piece  of evidence  is                                                                   
physically  large, the  portions likely  to contain  relevant                                                                   
evidence remain  preserved. A notice procedure  found on Page                                                                   
2, Subsection D  of the bill outlines the  proper destruction                                                                   
of  evidence. The  Section further  provides  the method  for                                                                   
court ordered remedies if evidence  is destroyed in violation                                                                   
of the Section.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:34:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  French   continued  with  the  Sectional   analysis.                                                                   
Section 2,  Page 4 and Section  3, Page 4 refer to  the codas                                                                   
sections  that the  Department  of Law  (DOL) requested.  The                                                                   
codas give  DOL the ability to  remove DNA data taken  from a                                                                   
suspect found  innocent. This allows prosecution  of a person                                                                   
whose DNA  is retained  on the  data base in  the event  of a                                                                   
subsequent crime. He provided an example.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:35:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  French explained  that the  DOL has  the ability  to                                                                   
remove  DNA data  taken from  a  suspect who  is later  found                                                                   
innocent. The state  is allowed to prosecute  if the evidence                                                                   
is still  on the  database when  a person  is arrested  for a                                                                   
subsequent crime.  He continued that Section  5 establishes a                                                                   
task force for the preservation of evidence.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:37:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  French expressed  that  the legislation  will  prove                                                                   
effective throughout  all areas of the state.  He mentioned a                                                                   
letter  from Angela  Long, chief  of  the police  association                                                                   
opposing the bill. He stated that  since changes were made in                                                                   
the  judiciary   committee,  Ms.   Long  has  withdrawn   her                                                                   
opposition. He informed of the  close contact between DOL and                                                                   
the  Department   of  Public  Safety.  He  opined   that  the                                                                   
collaboration provides a good piece of legislation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:38:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked about  the  current  process of  DNA                                                                   
storage.  Senator French  answered that  the DNA evidence  is                                                                   
retained until a  person is released from prison  and removed                                                                   
from the registry. He mentioned  that the state complies with                                                                   
the  established  legislation.  He  shared a  story  about  a                                                                   
murder case during his time as  district attorney. The police                                                                   
departments  recognize the importance  of retaining  evidence                                                                   
and  essentially   perform  already  that  which   this  bill                                                                   
mandates.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:40:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUE  STANCLIFF,  SPECIAL  ASSISTANT,   DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC                                                                   
SAFETY, testified about data storage  and use of DNA samples.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ORIN  DYM, FORENSIC  LAB  SUPERVISOR, CRIME  LAB  SUPERVISOR,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY (testified via  teleconference).                                                                   
He spoke in reference to the question  about DNA sampling and                                                                   
the  current  status  of  retaining   samples  of  biological                                                                   
evidence  indefinitely. He  informed  that this  bill has  an                                                                   
impact  on   the  crime  laboratory   in  the   retention  of                                                                   
biological evidence and the number  of samples identified. He                                                                   
recognized  that  in  order  for  an  agency  to  dispose  of                                                                   
evidence, they  must sample it  prior to disposal.  Depending                                                                   
on  the case,  clothing and  bedding might  not be  analyzed.                                                                   
With  this   legislation,  all   items  are  identified   for                                                                   
biological  importance in  the crime  laboratory. The  change                                                                   
induces  a  dramatic  increase   in  the  number  of  samples                                                                   
retained and evidence submitted.  He mentioned the additional                                                                   
funds required for storage space  and an employee responsible                                                                   
for  sample  collection and  additional  workload  associated                                                                   
with the bill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:43:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   requested  information   regarding   the                                                                   
attached  fiscal  note. He  asked  about integration  of  the                                                                   
crime laboratory.  Mr. Dym responded that  additional storage                                                                   
space  is  necessary   regardless  of  when   the  new  crime                                                                   
laboratory  is   constructed.  He  explained  the   need  for                                                                   
additional personnel  to aid in  sampling the  evidence prior                                                                   
to disposal. He  opined that the provided fiscal  note offers                                                                   
the best estimate with the best vision of the future.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  for  justification  of  the  travel                                                                   
request. Mr. Dym explained the  travel request was for agency                                                                   
training   regarding   proper   storage  of   evidence.   The                                                                   
requirements for an accredited  laboratory include the proper                                                                   
storage and handling of evidence.  He stressed the importance                                                                   
of sharing  the knowledge with  the state's user  base, which                                                                   
requires travel.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:46:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  if a task force was  necessary to the                                                                   
process of  the legislation.  Mr. Dym  explained that  he was                                                                   
not responsible for the requisition  of a task force. Senator                                                                   
French stated  the necessity  of the  task force because  the                                                                   
obligation  is  new  for  both  the  crime  labs  and  police                                                                   
departments  across  the  state.   He  suggested  a  careful,                                                                   
considerate,  and  collaborative  process  for  a  beneficial                                                                   
beginning.  Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if  the  task force  was                                                                   
suggested  at the request  of the  department or through  the                                                                   
creation  of  the  bill. Senator  French  answered  that  the                                                                   
creation of a  task force existed in the initial  language of                                                                   
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  about private  laboratories that  might                                                                   
store  and process  the samples  without  the cost  of a  new                                                                   
facility.  Senator  French answered  that  state  prosecution                                                                   
evidence must  be housed  in a  state facility. He  suggested                                                                   
that  expanding   the  existing   crime  laboratory   without                                                                   
building a new $100 million facility may suffice.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:48:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  about  the  American  Civil  Liberties                                                                   
Union's    (ACLU)   standpoint    regarding   the    proposed                                                                   
legislation.  Senator French  stated that  the Department  of                                                                   
Law (DOL)  was in  support of the  bill because this  process                                                                   
offers the ability to prove guilt versus innocence.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if the department supports  the bill.                                                                   
Ms. Stancliff  answered that yes  the Departments of  Law and                                                                   
Public  Safety support  the  bill. Senator  French  clarified                                                                   
that ACLU also supports the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:50:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  asked about  the  detractors  of the  bill.                                                                   
Senator  French   responded  that  resistance,   rather  than                                                                   
outright  detraction  existed   from  agencies  commanded  to                                                                   
retain  evidence. He  stated that concerns  of police  chiefs                                                                   
across the state were since alleviated.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked about prisoners  and the bill. He asked                                                                   
if prisoner's  DNA was obtained.  Senator French  stated that                                                                   
the  bill does  not  address  prisoners. He  understood  that                                                                   
previous legislation addressed DNA obtained from prisoners.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins asked  about Page  3, Line  21 and the  term                                                                   
"unintentional."  He  asked  why   not  substitute  the  term                                                                   
"intentional."   Senator   French  understood   the   concern                                                                   
initially.   He   explained   the   meaning   of   the   word                                                                   
"unintentional",   as   "only  intentional   destruction   of                                                                   
evidence can  result in civil  liability." Anything  short of                                                                   
intentional  destruction  of  evidence  can result  in  civil                                                                   
liability.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:52:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  asked why the  DNA retained in the  record is                                                                   
retained while the paper record is destroyed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator French explained that  Senator Thomas is referring to                                                                   
the data  base. He explained that  a swab is obtained  from a                                                                   
prisoner and analyzed in the laboratory  which then takes the                                                                   
sequence of  DNA genes  for entry into  a database  where the                                                                   
information  sits as  a method  of  generating evidence.  The                                                                   
data  is then  purged if  the  person is  found innocent.  He                                                                   
stated that  the DNA is retained  because it is  personal and                                                                   
valuable information.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:54:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE CARPENETI,  ASSISTANT ATTORNEY  GENERAL, LEGAL  SERVICES                                                                   
SECTION-JUNEAU,   CRIMINAL  DIVISION,   DEPARTMENT  OF   LAW,                                                                   
explained that the adoption of  the obligations for the state                                                                   
police required much work. She  stated that the bill does not                                                                   
change  the reasons  for the  DNA  collection. She  explained                                                                   
that the legislature adopted a  provision that allowed police                                                                   
to obtain samples  from those persons arrested  for a felony.                                                                   
The legislature also adopted a  procedure for people arrested                                                                   
for a  felony not  resulting in  the collection  of DNA.  The                                                                   
legislature  neglected  to  provide   removal  from  the  DNA                                                                   
database people who were arrested  for a felony, charged with                                                                   
it  and  acquitted   after  trial.  This  bill   adopts  that                                                                   
procedure.   The   Federal  Bureau   of   Investigation   has                                                                   
recommended  the   adoption  of  the  procedure   for  people                                                                   
acquitted  of  a  crime  for   removal  their  DNA  from  the                                                                   
database.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if  the  criminal  division  is  in                                                                   
support of the bill. Ms. Carpeneti answered yes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:56:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL  OBERLY,   ALASKA  INNOCENCE   PROJECT  (testified   via                                                                   
teleconference),  spoke  in support  of  the legislation.  He                                                                   
stated that the  support of strong evidence  management helps                                                                   
to  solve  cases. Regarding  the  task  force, the  data  and                                                                   
information  gathered  by  the  task  force  will  allow  for                                                                   
necessary changes and improvements.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOHN   LUCKING,   POLICE  CHIEF   SOLDOTNA   (testified   via                                                                   
teleconference),  in  support  of  SB  110. He  spoke  of  an                                                                   
opposition letter, now null because  Senator French and staff                                                                   
have worked with the Department  of Public Safety to overcome                                                                   
initial  concerns regarding  liability of  personnel and  the                                                                   
maintenance  of bulky  evidence.  He voiced  support for  the                                                                   
task force as an important component of the bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:59:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator French concluded that  he appreciated support for the                                                                   
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB  110  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 133                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act creating a statewide electronic health                                                                             
     information exchange system; and providing for an                                                                          
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:00:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 1.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion purposes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas explained that  Amendment 1 deleted references                                                                   
to the state  as the one that  heads up the operation  of the                                                                   
Health Information  Exchange (HIE).  Amendment 1  deletes the                                                                   
designation of the state as an  option for fully implementing                                                                   
and  operating the  HIE  system.  He stated  that  it is  not                                                                   
necessary  to have a  big government  operation when  private                                                                   
sector options exist,  with the state acting  in an oversight                                                                   
role. The  amendment puts  in statute  the expectations  that                                                                   
the designated  entity must become self sustaining  through a                                                                   
combination  of  user  fees  and  other  private  and  public                                                                   
funding sources.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Paskvan  stated that  he  supports  Amendment 1.  He                                                                   
explained that the  fiscal note does reflect  the change from                                                                   
the state as  a potential operator of the program.  He stated                                                                   
that once the  federal stimulus dollars are  gone this entity                                                                   
will  be self  sustaining  operated  through  user fees.  The                                                                   
state's  involvement would  then  be as  another supplier  of                                                                   
user fees.  He opined  that the  solution was  modern and  in                                                                   
response  to   Alaska's  growth   in  healthcare   needs.  He                                                                   
expressed full support of the Amendment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman explained the  fiscal note reduced operating                                                                   
costs by $389.4  million as a result of four  fewer full time                                                                   
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Paskvan clarified  that  the plan  reduced six  full                                                                   
time  employees to  two full  time  employees. He  understood                                                                   
that the  fiscal note  is a worst  case scenario.  The actual                                                                   
expenditures are less.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  removed  his objection.  Amendment  1  was                                                                   
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:04:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  asked  for  further  clarification  of  the                                                                   
administration's position on this  bill as it pertains to the                                                                   
federal stimulus funds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   asked  for   representation   from   the                                                                   
administration to address Senator Huggins' question.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Paskvan  understood that the administration  remained                                                                   
neutral regarding the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM STREUR,  DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, MEDICAID  & HEALTH CARE                                                                   
POLICY, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND  SOCIAL SERVICES, introduced                                                                   
himself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked about available  stimulus funds and the                                                                   
intended use.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Streur  answered that the  total money available  through                                                                   
the  federal stimulus  was  $19.2  billion. Each  state  must                                                                   
submit their particular  needs. He stated that  $17.2 billion                                                                   
of  the $19.2  billion is  for the  providers submitting  for                                                                   
assistance  for electronic  health record  deeds and  related                                                                   
efforts  as part  of a  health  information exchange  system.                                                                   
This  includes 100  percent funding  for the  next two  years                                                                   
with the future ratio yet unstated.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked for an estimate  of one hundred percent                                                                   
funding for two years. Mr. Streur  answered $17.2 billion for                                                                   
two years. For Alaska, the amount  is yet unknown and depends                                                                   
on what the state submits.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked for an estimate  of the cost to operate                                                                   
under this provision. Mr. Streur  answered that the costs are                                                                   
anticipated at  $27 million about  $25 million of  which will                                                                   
be  federally  funded.  The cost  for  ongoing  operation  is                                                                   
lessened considerably after the first two years.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:07:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  asked about the continuing  operating costs?                                                                   
He understood  that a user fee  existed to defray  a majority                                                                   
of the operating  costs. Mr. Streur responded  that following                                                                   
the first  five years, the  projection is for  the collection                                                                   
of user  fees. The process  prohibits the collection  of user                                                                   
fees at the onset  of the program. The state  must absorb the                                                                   
cost  provided by  user  fees  until the  program  is up  and                                                                   
running with  enough depth and  spread across Alaska  to deem                                                                   
the program usable.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman informed  that  the fiscal  note has  $24.8                                                                   
million in  federal receipts for  FY10 and $2.7 million  in a                                                                   
General  Fund match  from the  state. He  continued that  $26                                                                   
million in  general fund match  is also required in  2011. In                                                                   
2012 $1,760,000  is the  anticipated general  fund match.  He                                                                   
stated  that  $1,080,000  is  the  approximate  general  fund                                                                   
impact on the treasury.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:09:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  intended to pass  the legislation.  The year                                                                   
the change  takes place is  the only question.  He understood                                                                   
that  alterations to  the state's  health information  system                                                                   
are inevitable  and mandatory.  The efficiency of  delivering                                                                   
medical  maintenance  is  beneficial  for  the  patient.  Mr.                                                                   
Streur agreed  with Senator  Huggins. Medicare providers  are                                                                   
required to have electronic health records by 2015.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins stated  that  his constituents  communicated                                                                   
that  he  ought  to  vote  affirmative  for  funds  available                                                                   
through the federal government  for the cost of transitioning                                                                   
to electronic health records by  2015. Mr. Streur agreed with                                                                   
Senator Huggins.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:11:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  discussed the rapid advancement  of technology                                                                   
for  electronic   communication.  He   asked  if   the  state                                                                   
subscribes now with possible advancement prior to 2015.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Streur  explained that much  of the new technology  comes                                                                   
with built in updates. Updates  for the state are provided as                                                                   
part  of the  core  system for  the  next ten  years.  Health                                                                   
information exchange technology contains built in updates.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked the bill sponsor to testify.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:13:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Paskvan thanked the committee for hearing the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman MOVED that the  committee report out SB 133,                                                                   
as amended with attached fiscal note.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB  133  was REPORTED  out  of  Committee  with a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and  a  new  fiscal   impact  note  from  the                                                                   
Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 171                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
"An  Act  relating  to  the permanent  fund  dividend  of  an                                                                   
otherwise   qualified   individual   who  dies   during   the                                                                   
qualifying year; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:14:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KEVIN  MEYER informed that  SB 171 would  provide the                                                                   
issuance  of  a Permanent  Fund  Dividend  (PFD) check  to  a                                                                   
personal  representative of  the estate  or successor  of the                                                                   
deceased during  the qualifying  year. He  noted that  SB 171                                                                   
treats deceased Alaskans  as living in terms  of applying for                                                                   
their final  PFD. in fulfilling all eligibility  requirements                                                                   
as  other  Alaskan   citizens  under  the   current  statute.                                                                   
Exceptions are  that an individual cannot apply  if deceased.                                                                   
The bill  itself includes the  application process.  He noted                                                                   
that the  director  of the PFD  division was  present in  the                                                                   
hearing for questions.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  requested   a  chronological  time   span                                                                   
illustrating  how a  citizen may  or may not  qualify if  the                                                                   
bill was enacted.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Meyer answered  that the  issue was  brought to  his                                                                   
attention  by long  term constituents  whose  loved ones  had                                                                   
lived to  fulfill the  requirements, yet  had not received  a                                                                   
PFD. The  deceased has to meet  the same requirements  as any                                                                   
other Alaskan  meaning that the  deceased must live  180 days                                                                   
of the year for eligibility. Co-Chair  Stedman clarified that                                                                   
the applicant must apply as required  by statute, live in the                                                                   
state, but "just happen to pass away in July or later."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  if  there  was  a  difference  if  the                                                                   
applicant  is buried in  the state  of Alaska. Senator  Meyer                                                                   
answered that the place of burial makes no difference.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if the  bill  in  question  affects                                                                   
citizens  in 2008  and  2009.  He asked  to  know the  bill's                                                                   
timeframe.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH   BITNEY,   DIRECTOR,    PERMANENT   FUND   DIVISION,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, answered  Co-Chair Stedman's question.                                                                   
She stated  that the legislation  begins the qualifying  year                                                                   
of 2009 and applies  to Alaskans who pass away  in the second                                                                   
half of 2009.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  asked  what  precludes  the  deceased  from                                                                   
receiving  the benefit  currently. Ms.  Bitney answered  that                                                                   
current  regulations  allow  for  applicants  who  pass  away                                                                   
during the application period  only. The statute amended with                                                                   
this legislation  states that  a citizen  must be a  resident                                                                   
for the  entire qualifying year.  She stated that  a resident                                                                   
was defined as someone living.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  about proper  notification  to  the                                                                   
department that the deceased "passed on."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:20:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Bitney   stated  that   the  death  certificate   allows                                                                   
administration of the check.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Thomas  clarified   that  if   a  person   had  all                                                                   
qualifications from January to  June of 2009 they qualify for                                                                   
a PFD. Ms. Bitney agreed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  MOVED  to  ADOPT work  draft  for  SB  171                                                                   
LS0804\S.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE  MARASIGAN, STAFF, SENATOR  KEVIN MEYER,  explained                                                                   
the work draft.  She explained that the work  draft contained                                                                   
three  major  changes.  One change  ensured  that  individual                                                                   
applicants received  a dividend at least one  year prior. She                                                                   
stated that another  change limits the dividend  to residents                                                                   
of Alaska.  The final  change allows a  person to  be present                                                                   
for 180  days versus  the entire  year as  was stated  in the                                                                   
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  removed  his  OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman addressed the  fiscal note, which is reduced                                                                   
by $50,000  in interagency receipts  as a result of  one less                                                                   
required position.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:24:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SB  171  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:25:28 AM  AT EASE                                                                                                          
10:26:03 AM  RECONVENED                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:26:22 AM RECESSED                                                                                                          
1:42:23 PM  RECONVENED                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 177                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  repealing  the termination  of  licensing  and                                                                   
     regulation of sport fishing  operators and sport fishing                                                                   
     guides and  licensing and registration of  sport fishing                                                                   
     vessels; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:42:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Meyer  introduced SB 177. This  legislation addresses                                                                   
the licensing  and regulation of sport fishing  for operators                                                                   
and  guides. The  bill provides  oversight  of sport  fishing                                                                   
operators  and  guides.  For the  protection  of  guides  and                                                                   
clients, some minimum standards  are necessary. The licensing                                                                   
and  reporting  program  is  beneficial  to  both  the  sport                                                                   
fishing  industry  and  its  resource  managers.  Legislation                                                                   
authorizing this  program passed in  2004 with the  intent of                                                                   
giving  the Department  of Fish and  Game more  comprehensive                                                                   
and  credible  information  on  the  guide  and  the  guiding                                                                   
activities.  A need to  create a  basic standard existed  for                                                                   
sport fish business operators  and guides including liability                                                                   
insurance, first  aid, Cardio Pulmonary Resuscitation  (CPR),                                                                   
and in some cases, United State's  Coast Guard licensing. The                                                                   
program increased the level of  professionalism for the sport                                                                   
fishing industry across the state.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  MOVED to adopt  work draft LS0832\E,  Kane,                                                                   
4/13/09.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DARWIN   PETERSON,   STAFF,   CO-CHAIR   STEDMAN,   gave   an                                                                   
explanation  of   the  Committee  Substitute  (CS).   The  CS                                                                   
addresses  the need for  in-season replacement  of a  fishing                                                                   
guide  within  the  Kenai  River   special  management  area.                                                                   
Currently, in order to guide on  the Kenai River a guide must                                                                   
have current first aid certification,  a coast guard license,                                                                   
current Alaska sport fishing license,  proof of enrollment in                                                                   
an approved drug  testing program, park use  permit, and must                                                                   
pass the  Kenai River  Guide Academy.  This guide academy  is                                                                   
administered by  the Department  of Natural Resources  and is                                                                   
offered  through  the  Kenai  Peninsula  College.  The  guide                                                                   
academy was  created to educate  fishing guides in  the areas                                                                   
of habitat protection, state and  federal fishing laws, river                                                                   
etiquette,  etc. The  CS  addresses the  problem  of a  sport                                                                   
fishing  business losing  an  employee midseason.  The  guide                                                                   
academy   is  not  offered   during  the   summer,  as   most                                                                   
instructors are  professional guides themselves.  The problem                                                                   
arises  when a  guide  is terminated  for  misconduct, or  is                                                                   
unable  to finish  the sport fishing  season  due to a  major                                                                   
medical  situation.  A  business cannot  hire  a  replacement                                                                   
guide unless the person passes  the academy, which can result                                                                   
in  tremendous  economic hardship  to  the business.  The  CS                                                                   
allows the State  Division of Parks a replacement  waiver for                                                                   
a business  that loses a guide  in season, allowing  the hire                                                                   
of another  guide on an  emergency basis without  meeting the                                                                   
guide   academy  requirement.   The   intent   is  that   the                                                                   
replacement  guide  enroll  in  the guide  academy  at  first                                                                   
available opportunity,  otherwise the  guide may not  work in                                                                   
the  subsequent season  as  the waiver  only  applies to  the                                                                   
sport fishing season in which it was issued.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins asked  if a guide  was qualified  but  had a                                                                   
medical problem that put him out  of work for one year, would                                                                   
the  waiver  pertain  to  the  remainder  of  the  year.  Mr.                                                                   
Peterson answered  that the  replacement guide must  graduate                                                                   
from the academy  if he or she wished to guide  the following                                                                   
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  asked a  question regarding the  requirements                                                                   
of the waiver. Mr. Peterson answered  that requirements apply                                                                   
only  to the  academy. The  requirements other  than that  of                                                                   
attending  the  academy such  as  CPR, coast  guard  license,                                                                   
first aid, park permit, etc still  stand as requirements. The                                                                   
potential guide may only obtain  employment midseason without                                                                   
graduation from the guide academy.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas  clarified  the  graduation  from  the  guide                                                                   
academy  is the  single  issue.  Mr. Peterson  answered  yes,                                                                   
because all other requirements  are available to the employee                                                                   
through  the  various  divisions or  departments  except  the                                                                   
academy because the course is  not offered during the summer.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked about  the fiscal  note and  the $344                                                                   
thousand allocated  for personnel services. He  asked to know                                                                   
which  positions  are  listed.   Mr.  Peterson  deferred  the                                                                   
question to the sponsor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman removed his OBJECTION                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Version E of the work draft was ADOPTED                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES   SWANTON,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION  OF   SPORT   FISH,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME, answered  the question about the                                                                   
fiscal note.  He stated  that there was  no reference  to the                                                                   
number of positions  for personal services. He  believed that                                                                   
eight  or nine  positions  are required  for  data entry  and                                                                   
program managers.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas asked  for the  current fees  for fish  guide                                                                   
licensing  as   compared  to  hunting  guides.   Mr.  Swanton                                                                   
answered  that he  was  not aware  of  the  current fees  for                                                                   
hunting guides. The fee for owner  operator guide among sport                                                                   
fishing is  $100 and for  guides only $50. Approximately  $10                                                                   
dollars  of  the $100  of  the  guide owner/operator  fee  is                                                                   
collected for licensing, while  the remainder is utilized for                                                                   
the  log book  or data  collection program.  For the  guides,                                                                   
$4.50 is  allocated toward licensing  fees and  the remainder                                                                   
toward logbook and data recording.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked  about the logbooks and  whether or not                                                                   
the   department  uses   the   data  for   better   fisheries                                                                   
management.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanton   stated  that  he   required  a   more  precise                                                                   
definition of "better fisheries management."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:53:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins clarified his  interest in enhancing the fish                                                                   
population.  Mr.  Swanton  responded   that  previous  venues                                                                   
listed the  methods to utilize  data. The information  needed                                                                   
has not been  collected by the department for  this period of                                                                   
time.  This  remains the  only  means  by which  the  harvest                                                                   
information is collected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  asked when enough  data is anticipated.  Mr.                                                                   
Swanton answered  that the anticipation is  difficult because                                                                   
a wide array  of applications for the information  exist from                                                                   
stocks that may or may not be  heavily exploited. He admitted                                                                   
reticence about answering the  question of an exact amount of                                                                   
necessary data  required to make  good decisions  in managing                                                                   
fisheries.  He  opined  that   increased  data  enriches  the                                                                   
fisheries management decision making process.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if the department supports  the bill.                                                                   
Mr. Swanton answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY   TURNER,   CHAIR,   KENAI    COLLEGE   (testified   via                                                                   
teleconference).  He   explained  that  there   is  unanimous                                                                   
support for  the change among  the Kenai River  Academy board                                                                   
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BEVERLY  MINN,   SELF  (testified  via  teleconference),   in                                                                   
opposition to SB  177. She stated that she would  like to see                                                                   
the fees sunset or reduced considerably.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MELVIN GROVE, MATSU, SELF (testified  via teleconference), in                                                                   
support of  SB 177. He stated  that he was in support  of the                                                                   
legislation. He  asked for data regarding restocks  to reduce                                                                   
long  lining near  shore  water. Data  is  not available.  He                                                                   
opined that the  fees must come from the fishing  licenses as                                                                   
opposed to the captain's pocket.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:02:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY SZCZESNY, OWNER ALASKA FISH  AND FLOAT, KENAI, testified                                                                   
in support of SB  177. He informed that he worked  as a guide                                                                   
on the  upper Kenai  River. He noted  the importance  of data                                                                   
collection. He expected the agencies  to employ the collected                                                                   
data.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REUBEN  HANKE, SELF,  SOLDOTNA,  testified in  support of  SB
177. He  spoke about the  CS and the  original task  force by                                                                   
the  Commissioner of  DNR.  He worked  as  a charter  fishing                                                                   
guide.  He  thought  that  the   information  gathered  would                                                                   
provide  a spring  board for  decision  making processes.  He                                                                   
understood  that there  were difficulties  with the  original                                                                   
collection process. He believed  that the data was helpful to                                                                   
the Board  of Fisheries. He spoke  in favor of the  CS and SB
177.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:05:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE MCCLURE, SELF,  KENAI, testified in support  of SB 177.                                                                   
He thought it beneficial to gather  more data. He stated that                                                                   
the board of  directors for the guide academy  were surprised                                                                   
to learn  that the  absent guide  issue was  not covered.  He                                                                   
stated  that   the  guide  academy   board  taught   him  the                                                                   
importance  of  the  academy's  classes, but  if  a  position                                                                   
remains vacant the business suffers.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  GOGGIA,  SELF, testified  in  support  of SB  177.  He                                                                   
stated  that there  are  many hazards  present  in the  sport                                                                   
fishing job,  occasionally necessitating replacement  guides.                                                                   
He spoke in support of the CS and SB 177.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICKY GEASE,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  KENAI RIVER SPORT  FISHING                                                                   
ASSOCIATION,  testified  in support  of  the legislation.  He                                                                   
stated that the guiding profession  is risky. Emergencies are                                                                   
possible  and substitute  guides  are occasionally  required.                                                                   
The  current law  book program  exempts Alaska  from the  new                                                                   
salt water angler  registry. He stated the importance  of the                                                                   
emergency  language.  He  spoke  in favor  of  extending  the                                                                   
sunset.   He    believed   in   insurance,    licensing   and                                                                   
certification standards.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:10:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins asked  about  the cost  of  a sport  fishing                                                                   
license.  He understood  that the cost  of business  licenses                                                                   
was reduced.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gease answered  that  the  price reductions  applied  to                                                                   
general business  licenses. A portion of the  license cost is                                                                   
used  for  electronic  data entry.  He  understood  that  the                                                                   
backlog  a  result of  data  input  in paper  fashion  versus                                                                   
electronic data  entry. He  stated the frustration  addressed                                                                   
was that the format was not user  friendly. The log books can                                                                   
limit people's  collection so that  it is real time  data. An                                                                   
efficient method of data collection and input is necessary.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins commented  that he  liked the  data and  the                                                                   
process, but "state government  can always find a reason that                                                                   
they   need   local   citizen's   money   to   manage   their                                                                   
bureaucracy."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:13:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman commented  on  the fiscal  note for  $462.2                                                                   
thousand, which exists in the Governor's FY10 budget.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Meyer noted support of the CS.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman commented  that  the committee  was in  the                                                                   
process of  creating with the  Department of Fish and  Game a                                                                   
recording mechanism allowing the  guiding industry to provide                                                                   
timely and usable  data. He suggested that Alaska  may end up                                                                   
like Oregon and Washington without  the accurate reporting of                                                                   
data. He  stated that  the committee did  not want  to burden                                                                   
the  populous  with  undue  charges,  but  without  the  data                                                                   
regarding the fish caught in Alaska,  the state may encounter                                                                   
an irreversible problem.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB  177  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:15:35 PM                                                                                                                    
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:15 PM.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Articles.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
SB 110
Amendment_Explanation_CSSB 133(HSS).doc SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 171 Supt email Palmer.pdf HFIN 2/12/2010 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
CSSB 171 Memo on changes 04072009.pdf HFIN 2/12/2010 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 Supt email Kajikawa.pdf HFIN 2/12/2010 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 Support Article JNU Empire.pdf HFIN 2/12/2010 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
CSSB 171 Memo on changes 04092009.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
CSSB171(STA)-DOR-PFD-04-09-09.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
CSSB 171 CS Draft for Senate Finance.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
CSSB 133(HSS) - Amendment - 26-LS0489-P.2.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 133 - Revised Fiscal Note - 4-10-09.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
CS SB 177 Version E.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 177
SB 171 Supt email Smith.pdf HFIN 2/12/2010 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 Supt Ltr Mason.pdf HFIN 2/12/2010 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 Supt Ltr Neher.pdf HFIN 2/12/2010 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 177 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 177
SB 177 Supt Ltr KRSA.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 177
SB 177 Supt Ltr PCBA.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 177
SB 177 Supt Ltr SEAGO.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 177
SB110 Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
SB 110
SB110 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
SB 110
SB177 Support Resolution.pdf SFIN 4/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
SB 177