Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/02/2002 04:22 PM FIN

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                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                           May 02, 2002                                                                                       
                              4:22 PM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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SFC-02 # 86, Side A                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete  Kelly convened the meeting at approximately  4:22 PM.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Jerry Ward, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Loren Leman                                                                                                             
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                            
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:    RON SOMMERVILLE,  Resource  Consultant, House  of                                                          
Representatives  and  Senate  Majority;  JENNIFER  YUHAS,  Staff  to                                                            
Representative Masek, Chair of the House Resources Committee;                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Attending  via  Teleconference:     There  were  no  teleconference                                                           
participants.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB  54-ALASKA VETERANS ADVISORY COUNCIL                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  rescinded its earlier action to report  the bill from                                                            
Committee.  A committee substitute  was adopted  and the bill  moved                                                            
from Committee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SB 252-EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM/BOARD                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The bill moved from Committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SB 267-ALASKA VETERANS' MEM.ENDOWMENT FUND                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The Committee considered  three amendments and adopted two. The bill                                                            
moved from Committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HB 421-WATER USE ACT PROCEDURES & RECORDS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  heard from a consultant  and the sponsor,  adopted an                                                            
amendment and a new fiscal note. The bill moved from Committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB 128-APPROVAL FOR EMPLOYMENT OF MINORS                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The  Committee  adopted  an  amendment   and  the  bill  moved  from                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 54                                                                                                         
     "An Act establishing the Alaska Veterans Advisory Council; and                                                             
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.  The bill  was reported  from Committee  at the  previous                                                            
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  noted the amendments adopted to this  legislation at                                                            
the last meeting are unconstitutional.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  moved to rescind the Committee's action  of reporting                                                            
the bill from Committee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The  Committee's  action   to move   the  bill  from  Committee  was                                                            
RESCINDED without objection.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley moved for  adoption of CS  SB 54, 22-GS1080\F  as a                                                            
working draft.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the committee  substitute was ADOPTED as a working                                                            
draft.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly informed  that this committee  substitute  clarifies                                                            
that members of the Veterans  Advisory Council, whose terms have not                                                            
expired as of  the effective date of this bill, may  remain in their                                                            
position  until their  terms expire,  with the  exception that  they                                                            
serve at the pleasure  of the governor. He noted this  is consistent                                                            
with  the provisions  governing  other  appointed  positions  during                                                            
changes in gubernatorial administrations.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman "moved to  report committee substitute for Senate Bill                                                            
54 Finance  from Committee with individual  recommendations  and the                                                            
accompanying small fiscal note."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection  and CS SB 54 (FIN) with accompanying  $3,500                                                            
fiscal  note  #2  from  the  Department  of  Military  and  Veterans                                                            
Affairs, dated 2/9/02, MOVED from Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 252(L&C)                                                                                            
     "An Act renaming  the Alaska Human Resource Investment  Council                                                            
     as the  Alaska Workforce Investment  Board and relating  to its                                                            
     membership;  relating  to  repayment  on promissory  notes  for                                                            
     work-related  items paid for  by grant programs; extending  the                                                            
     termination date of  the state training and employment program;                                                            
     relating  to employment and training activities;  and providing                                                            
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  "moved to report Senate  Bill 252 from Committee  as                                                            
amended with individual  recommendations and attached fiscal notes."                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Without objection,  SB 252 (FIN) MOVED from Committee  with four new                                                            
fiscal   notes  from   the  Department   of   Labor  and   Workforce                                                            
Development,  Employment  Security  BRU:  $4,785,200,  Job  Training                                                            
Programs component,  5/1/02 8:44 AM; $91,200, Job  Training Programs                                                            
component,   5/1/02  8:45  AM;  $125,000,   Unemployment   Insurance                                                            
component, 5/1/02; $255,300,  Employment Services component, 5/1/02.                                                            
[Note: The  $4,785,200 Job  Training Programs  fiscal note  reflects                                                            
funds included  in the governor's  proposed FY 02 operating  budget,                                                            
while the $91,200  Job Training Programs  fiscal note funds  are not                                                            
included.]                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  reminded that at the  previous hearing on  this bill                                                            
he had requested certain  information from the Denali Commission. He                                                            
informed although  he has received this information,  which includes                                                            
details of  different training programs,  the information  contained                                                            
no reference to  the results of those training programs  and whether                                                            
they are productive.  He commented that the level  of success should                                                            
be  measured  and he  indicated  he  would make  efforts  to  ensure                                                            
complete reporting in the future.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 267                                                                                                        
     "An Act  establishing the Alaska  veterans' memorial  endowment                                                            
     fund  and  providing  for credits  against  certain  taxes  for                                                            
     contributions  to that fund; relating to other  tax credits for                                                            
     certain  contributions; and providing  for an effective  date."                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #1: This  amendment inserts,  "relating  to a tax  credit                                                            
program  for postsecondary  colleges  of universities;"  on page  1,                                                            
line 1. The amended title of the bill reads as follows.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act relating  to  a tax credit  program  for postsecondary                                                             
     colleges  or universities;  establishing  the Alaska  veterans'                                                            
     memorial  endowment  fund  and providing  for  credits  against                                                            
     certain  taxes  for contributions  to  that fund;  relating  to                                                            
     other tax credits  for certain contributions; and providing for                                                            
     an effective date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
This  amendment  also  changes  the qualifications   of educational                                                             
facilities  eligible to receive tax-deductible  contributions  in AS                                                            
21.87.070(a),     43.20.014(a),     43.55.019(a),     43.56.018(a),                                                             
43.65.018(a),  43.75.018(a),  and  43.77.045(a),  to  include  those                                                            
accredited by a national accreditation association.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly objected for an explanation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman commented  this legislation reminded him of a topic he                                                            
discussed with  the late Elmer Rasmuson,  who had expressed  concern                                                            
that  Alaska  statute is  inconsistent  in  governing  tax  credits.                                                            
Senator   Leman  explained   that  tax  credits   are  extended   to                                                            
contributions  made to regionally  accredited institutions  only and                                                            
pointed out that some nationally  accredited institutions operate in                                                            
the  State.  He  relayed  the Alaska  Commission   on Postsecondary                                                             
Education  (ACPE)  determination   that national   accreditation  is                                                            
equivalent to regional accreditation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken objected  to adoption of the amendment, expressing it                                                            
changes  the intent  of the  tax credit  program.  He explained  the                                                            
current program  includes the University  of Alaska, Alaska  Pacific                                                            
University  and Sheldon  Jackson  College.  If this  amendment  were                                                            
adopted, he observed,  the program would be expanded  to provide tax                                                            
credits to  "church schools", for-profit  schools: including  Career                                                            
Academy  and Charter  College, and  trade schools:  including  truck                                                            
driving schools, massage  therapy schools, cosmetology schools, etc.                                                            
He predicted  this expansion  of the tax  credit program would  have                                                            
"far ranging implications"  and stressed that if this is the intent,                                                            
the matter should  receive further consideration.  He furthered that                                                            
ACPE  has concerns  about  this amendment  and  should  be given  an                                                            
opportunity to speak to those concerns.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  countered, "This  is not a  new idea," noting  he has                                                            
raised the  issue on several occasions  over the past ten  years. He                                                            
added  that the  ACPE has  not  indicated any  concerns  to him.  He                                                            
surmised  if  the   concerns  were  serious,  he  would   have  been                                                            
contacted.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly objected to  adoption of  the amendment for  similar                                                            
reasons as those voiced by Senator Wilken.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken directed  attention to written  testimony  submitted                                                            
for this bill by the ACPE whereby the concerns are detailed.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator  Olson, Senator  Ward, Senator Green, and  Senator                                                            
Leman                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED:  Senator Wilken,  Senator Austerman,  Senator Hoffman,  Co-                                                            
Chair Donley and Co-Chair Kelly                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The motion FAILED (4-5)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #2:  This conceptual amendment  reduces the amount  of tax                                                            
credit eligible  for the second $100,000 of contributions,  from 100                                                            
percent to 75 percent.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley  moved for  adoption  at  the request  of  Co-Chair                                                            
Kelly.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #3: This conceptual  amendment changes the language in the                                                            
title of the bill  to specifically reflect the tax  credit structure                                                            
adopted in Amendment #2.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley moved for adoption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  relayed "hearsay"  observation of the activities  of                                                            
the  veterans' organizations  to  secure  funding for  services.  He                                                            
noted the  result is  this legislation  to provide  tax credits  for                                                            
private donations. While  he did not oppose this method, he surmised                                                            
the  motive  for  introducing   and  encouraging  passage   of  this                                                            
legislation was political.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward shared  that the  topic of establishing  an  endowment                                                            
fund was discussed  at his local Veterans of Foreign  Wars (VFW) and                                                            
American Legion chapters.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley pointed  out the difference  between this  proposed                                                            
endowment fund with others  discussed during the legislative session                                                            
that have been  created entirely with public funds.  He asserted the                                                            
proposed  veterans'  fund  "appears  to have  the  more appropriate                                                             
intent for an  endowment than those other so-called  endowments". He                                                            
remarked he supports this legislation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked the  potential impact of funds diverted from the                                                            
"State  coffers"  to  the  proposed  veterans'  endowment  fund  and                                                            
whether the amount is unlimited.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward replied,  " It is subject to appropriations."  He could                                                            
not  guarantee  the Veterans  Advisory  Council  would  not  request                                                            
additional  funds in the  future, but expressed  that the intent  is                                                            
private contributions and  grants would comprise the majority of the                                                            
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly clarified  Senator Green's question was to the impact                                                            
of the tax credit on the State's general fund.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley replied  the  donation amount  eligible  for a  tax                                                            
credit is limited  to $200,000 annually,  which he characterized  as                                                            
the "control" limiting the impact on the general fund.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  "moved  Senate   Bill  267  out  of  Committee  with                                                            
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There was no  objection and SB 267  (FIN) MOVED from Committee  with                                                            
accompanying  $125,000  fiscal  noted  #1  from  the  Department  of                                                            
Military  and  Veterans  Affairs,  zero  fiscal  note  #2  from  the                                                            
Department  of Revenue  and indeterminate  fiscal  note #3 from  the                                                            
Department of Community and Economic Development.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 421(RES)                                                                               
     "An  Act  relating  to  requiring  the  Department  of  Natural                                                            
     Resources to develop  and maintain a standardized procedure for                                                            
     processing  applications and  issuing permits, authorizations,                                                             
     and certifications  under the Alaska Water Use  Act and to make                                                            
     a record of those items and amendments and orders affecting                                                                
     them available on the Internet."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman spoke to  a draft amendment [not on file]. He reminded                                                            
the Committee  that in May 2001, during the final  days of the first                                                            
session of  the Twenty-Second Alaska  State Legislature,  HB 185 was                                                            
passed,  which  amended  the  Alaska  Water  Use  Act.  He  recalled                                                            
concerns were  raised during debate on that legislation  relating to                                                            
"major public  policy questions"  about the  operation of the  Water                                                            
Management  Program  within  the Department  of  Natural  Resources.                                                            
Because of these concerns,  he continued, HB 185 included a one-year                                                            
sunset provision  on the  Department's authorization  for  temporary                                                            
water  use  activities.   In  addition,  he  noted  the Legislature                                                             
provided additional funding  to the Department to expedite the water                                                            
appropriations process  and "clean up the incredibly long backlog of                                                            
applications".                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman informed  that one year later, the application backlog                                                            
remains and that  "very few of the public interest  policy questions                                                            
have  been  addressed."  He shared  that  a finding  issued  by  the                                                            
Division of  Legislative Legal and  Research Services cautions  that                                                            
in the absence of addressing  the public policy issues, the programs                                                            
are "treading  on thin ice". As a result, he stated  he sponsored an                                                            
amendment to  HB 421, although he  did not intend for the  suggested                                                            
changes  to place  a  burden  on industry  and  cause  delay in  the                                                            
issuance   of  temporary   water   use  permits.   He  suggested   a                                                            
misunderstanding  could  be  the  cause  of the  opposition  to  his                                                            
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman asserted,  "The  Department's approach  to  temporary                                                            
water use must  be legally defensible, avoid unnecessary  delays and                                                            
the public  interest must be protected."  He expressed concern  that                                                            
without an  amendment to the Alaska  Water Use Act, the possibility                                                             
of "legitimate" legal challenges remains.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  stated that because of the limited  time remaining in                                                            
the current legislative  session and because of opposition  from the                                                            
Department  of Natural Resources and  private parties that  would be                                                            
adversely impacted, he would not offer the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #1: This amendment  deletes the  following language  from                                                            
page 1,  line 13, through  page 2,  line 5 of  the Senate  Resources                                                            
committee substitute.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     …shall  ensure  that  all  permits  for  water  withdrawal  are                                                            
     invalid   unless  the   applicant  complies   with   applicable                                                            
     requirements  of AS  16.05.870;  and shall make  the record  of                                                            
     applications, including  temporary water use applications under                                                            
     AS   46.15.155   that   have   been   accepted   as   complete,                                                            
     authorizations,  permits, certificates, amendments,  and orders                                                            
      affecting them available to the public on the Internet;                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
This  amendment   also  replaces  the  deleted  language   with  the                                                            
following.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     …shall  require  that temporary  water use  authorizations  are                                                            
     valid  only to  the extent that  the water  withdrawal and  use                                                            
     complies  with applicable  requirements  of  AS 16.05.870;  and                                                            
     shall  make the  record of  applications,  including  temporary                                                            
     water  use  applications  under  AS 16.15.155  that  have  been                                                            
      accepted them available to the public on the Internet;                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  moved for adoption, noting that Senator  Rick Halford                                                            
and the Department  support this amendment, and that  Co-Chair Kelly                                                            
discussed the  implications with potential applicants  for temporary                                                            
water use permits.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RON   SOMMERVILLE,    Resource   Consultant    to   the   House   of                                                            
Representatives and the  Senate Majorities, explained this amendment                                                            
was drafted  as a  result of  concerns raised  by the Legislature's                                                             
legal  advisors and  by temporary  water use  permit applicants.  He                                                            
stated  that language  adopted  by the  Senate  Resources  Committee                                                            
would  require the  Department  to "enforce  another  agency's  law"                                                            
related to the  Anadromous Fish Act [this agency is  not specified].                                                            
He  recalled  comments   made  by  Senator  Hoffman  about   parties                                                            
receiving  water use  authorization,  assuming they  had no  further                                                            
regulatory  obligation, and  utilizing the  water without  knowledge                                                            
they were violating  requirements  of the Anadromous Fish  Act. As a                                                            
result, he  said, Amendment #1 directs  the two departments  to work                                                            
closely on this matter  to ensure that applicants are aware of their                                                            
responsibilities.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if this amendment would assist  in reducing the                                                            
application backlog.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sommerville responded it would not affect the backlog.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  removed his objection to adoption  of the amendment.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly reminded  there was  discussion  about amending  the                                                            
fiscal note during the previous hearing on this bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER YUHAS,  Staff to Representative  Masek, Chair of  the House                                                            
Resources  Committee,  relayed  the  sponsor's  assertion  that  the                                                            
$200,000 appropriated  for the current fiscal year  is sufficient to                                                            
implement this legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  moved to adopt a  replacement zero fiscal  note for                                                            
the Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  directed  attention to  the  contractual  services                                                            
component  of the  fiscal  note and  asked if  services  were to  be                                                            
contracted  out   or  how  the  functions  would  be   performed  if                                                            
additional positions were not funded.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly responded  that  $300,000  was appropriated  to  the                                                            
Department  the previous session for  the purpose of addressing  the                                                            
application backlog.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  if that  appropriation  was for contractual                                                             
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Yuhas informed  the  $300,000  appropriation  was  made to  the                                                            
Department  with the  intent  it would  be used  to hire  additional                                                            
staff to address  the backlog. She reiterated the  sponsor's opinion                                                            
that that this amount is adequate.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  suggested that if the Department  does not have the                                                            
necessary  expertise  to implement  this  legislation,  it would  be                                                            
necessary to contract  for outside assistance, which  would decrease                                                            
the amount of funds available  to hire staff to address the backlog.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Yuhas  stated the Department  has made  this argument,  although                                                            
the  hiring  of additional  staff  to  address  the backlog  is  not                                                            
complete  and thus  the funds appropriated  for  the current  fiscal                                                            
year have not been utilized.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asserted that if  the amount of the backlog  is not                                                            
reduced  to the Legislature's  expectation,  the  Legislature  is to                                                            
blame for imposing additional expenditure requirements.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  informed that $50,000  of the original appropriation                                                             
remains, which could lapse.  He expressed intent that the Department                                                            
"hire aggressively" to fill the positions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly suggested  the  FY 03  Operating  Budget  Conference                                                            
Committee  could  reappropriate  the lapsing  funds  to contractual                                                             
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman clarified  he  did not  object to  adoption of  the                                                            
amendment,  but emphasized it could  adversely impact the  reduction                                                            
to the backlog.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection  and the Committee ADOPTED  a new zero fiscal                                                            
note for the Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman "moved  to  report  House Bill  421 as  amended  from                                                            
Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  the accompanying                                                             
Senate Finance fiscal note."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Without objection  CS SB  421 (FIN) MOVED  from Committee with  zero                                                            
fiscal  note  written  by  the  Senate  Finance  Committee  for  the                                                            
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 128(L&C)(efd add)                                                                                    
     "An Act relating to the required approval of the commissioner                                                              
     of labor and workforce development for the employment of                                                                   
     certain minors; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #1:  This amendment provides  that a written consent  must                                                            
be  signed before  a  minor begins  work.  The amended  language  to                                                            
Section 2,  on page 2 lines  16 and 17 of  the committee  substitute                                                            
reads as follows.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                (5) must be signed by a parent or legal guardian of                                                             
     the minor before the date the minor begins working the job                                                                 
     specified in the consent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman reminded  the Committee  of a  concern he  voiced                                                            
during  the previous  hearing  on this  bill that  this legislation                                                             
would allow a minor of  a certain age to work without the permission                                                            
of a parent. He  noted this amendment addresses this  concern and he                                                            
moved for adoption.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  relayed a conversation  she had "with the  person who                                                            
requested  this legislation"  where  she learned  the  issue is  not                                                            
minors  attempting   to  gain  employment  against  their   parents'                                                            
direction.  She stated that the farmer  she spoke with informed  her                                                            
that  he has  had to  deny employment  to  minors  because of  legal                                                            
restrictions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  suggested  allowing  a  grace  period  between  when                                                            
employment  begins  and when  a parental  consent  is required.  She                                                            
explained this  would be beneficial in the event a  parent is out of                                                            
town.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward commented  that  many businesses  do  not hire  people                                                            
under  the age  of  14, which  he  asserted  is wrong.  However,  he                                                            
understood  the  "hassle"  involved  in  hiring  young  workers.  He                                                            
surmised this  amendment and this  legislation would eliminate  some                                                            
of the  difficulties.  He noted  this amendment  allows a  seven-day                                                            
grace period between  the start of employment and  submission of the                                                            
necessary  documents  to  the  Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce                                                            
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 4:56 PM / 5:01 PM                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward  "moved  House  Bill  number  128 as  amended  out  of                                                            
Committee with  individual recommendations  and accompanying  note."                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There was  no objection and  SCS CS HB 128  (FIN) with accompanying                                                             
$22,500 fiscal  note #1 from the Department  of Labor and  Workforce                                                            
Development MOVED from Committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly announced  the Committee would limit consideration of                                                            
Senate Bills for the remainder of the legislative session.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete Kelly adjourned the meeting at 05:03 PM                                                                           

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