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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 4, 2013                                                                                          
                           2:36 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Doug Isaacson, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Eric Feige                                                                                                       
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 24                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the Alaska Marine Transportation Advisory                                                                   
Board."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS SB 24(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 24                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: MARINE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) STEVENS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
01/18/13       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/18/13       (S)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
02/19/13       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/19/13       (S)       Moved SB 24 Out of Committee                                                                           
02/19/13       (S)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
02/20/13       (S)       TRA RPT 4DP 1NR                                                                                        
02/20/13       (S)       DP: EGAN, BISHOP, DYSON, FAIRCLOUGH                                                                    
02/20/13       (S)       NR: FRENCH                                                                                             
03/15/13       (S)       FIN RPT 2DP 3NR                                                                                        
03/15/13       (S)       DP: MEYER, BISHOP                                                                                      
03/15/13       (S)       NR: KELLY, DUNLEAVY, OLSON                                                                             
03/15/13       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/15/13       (S)       Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled                                                                       
03/29/13       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
03/29/13       (S)       VERSION: SB 24                                                                                         
04/01/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/01/13       (H)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
04/04/13       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DOUG LETCH, Staff                                                                                                               
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  on behalf of  the sponsor  of SB
24.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOE BAILOR, Economic Development Specialist                                                                                     
Kodiak Chamber of Commerce                                                                                                      
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SB 24.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:36:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PEGGY  WILSON  called the  House  Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 2:36 p.m.   Representatives Feige,                                                               
Lynn, Kreiss-Tomkins,  Gattis, Isaacson,  P. Wilson  were present                                                               
at the call to order.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           SB 24-MARINE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:36:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  announced that the only order  of business would                                                               
be SENATE  BILL NO.  24, "An  Act relating  to the  Alaska Marine                                                               
Transportation Advisory Board."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:37:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG   LETCH,  Staff,   Senator   Gary   Stevens,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of the  sponsor, stated that SB  24 would                                                               
add   an  additional   seat  to   the  11-member   Alaska  Marine                                                               
Transportation  Advisory  Board  (MTAB).    The  new  seat  would                                                               
represent the  Kenai Peninsula areas  of Seldovia and  Homer, and                                                               
the  Kodiak  Island  communities   that  receive  ferry  service,                                                               
including  Kodiak, [and  the smaller  communities of  Port Lions,                                                               
Old Harbor, Ouzinkie, Seldovia, and  Homer].  The additional MTAB                                                               
member would allow these communities  to submit names to serve on                                                               
the  board.   Additionally,  the  bill  would allow  Gustavus  an                                                               
opportunity to  apply to the  board since this community  has had                                                               
ferry service  in recent  years.  He  clarified that  this change                                                               
would not guarantee  that anyone from these  communities would be                                                               
appointed to  serve; however, it  would give them  an opportunity                                                               
to advance a name for consideration to the MTAB.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:39:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LETCH stated  that the  sponsor questioned  the even  number                                                               
membership of the  MTAB since the bill  would increase membership                                                               
to 12 members.  The  sponsor has subsequently discussed this with                                                               
the Department  of Transportation  & Public  Facilities' (DOT&PF)                                                               
liaison.  He  provided additional information.   First, there are                                                               
not any bylaws for the MTAB.   Second, there has never been a tie                                                               
vote; however,  in the event of  a tie vote the  issue would die.                                                               
He offered his belief that the  MTAB currently seems to get along                                                               
well,  without any  personality conflicts.   Further,  the MTAB's                                                               
role  is to  provide an  advisory role  on marine  transportation                                                               
issues.   He  related the  bill has  a small  fiscal note  in the                                                               
amount of $3,000 per year.   The board requires members to attend                                                               
one meeting in person each year.   The bill had unanimous support                                                               
in the Senate when it came up  for a vote.  He characterized this                                                               
bill  as a  good  bill  that will  give  people opportunities  to                                                               
better represent  their communities  on the MTAB,  in particular,                                                               
since the  area represents a large  geographical area, stretching                                                               
from the  Aleutian chain  to Prince William  Sound and  the Kenai                                                               
Peninsula  area  of  Kachemak  Bay.     He  thanked  members  and                                                               
understood an amendment may be forthcoming.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:41:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  also questioned the even  number of MTAB                                                               
members and  asked if it is  common for state boards  to not have                                                               
bylaws.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LETSCH  answered he was unsure,  but offered to find  out for                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON pointed  out the even-numbered membership                                                               
on the  board could result  in split  decisions.  He  offered his                                                               
support for the bill; however, he did raise the concern.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:42:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTIS  said she has served  on municipal advisory                                                               
boards,  but  has not  served  on  state  advisory boards.    She                                                               
recalled her groups got together  as working groups and served in                                                               
an advisory capacity.  She  further recalled the municipal groups                                                               
could advise;  however, the municipal  officials could  choose to                                                               
do something else.   She offered her belief that  the key is that                                                               
the MTAB is advisory in nature.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON recalled the  MTAB was created via  an executive                                                               
order under Governor Murkowski, but  the next governor halted the                                                               
MTAB.   However, since the  MTAB is so important  to communities,                                                               
she  subsequently  introduced  a  bill to  place  the  MTAB  into                                                               
statute.   She  offered  her  belief that  the  MTAB  has made  a                                                               
difference.   While everyone  wants to  see services  expand, she                                                               
cautioned that  she did not  want services expand at  the expense                                                               
of losing  service for communities  currently served.   She would                                                               
like to  ensure that  existing services are  not decreased.   She                                                               
also suggested that the MTAB must be careful in this regard.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:45:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LETCH acknowledged  Chair Wilson has raised a  good point and                                                               
the MTAB's history  is accurate.  He recalled  the Kodiak Chamber                                                               
of Commerce  considered MTAB membership,  too, and is  one reason                                                               
the  sponsor is  limiting the  board membership  to just  add one                                                               
seat; that the goal is to  keep the MTAB's membership as small as                                                               
possible,   but   expand   the  communities'   sense   of   being                                                               
represented.  He  pointed out that Kodiak is very  reliant on the                                                               
Alaska  Marine  Highway System  (AMHS).    He remarked  that  the                                                               
community  is vocal  on questions  about vehicle  maintenance and                                                               
scheduling.   Senator Stevens frequently hears  from constituents                                                               
throughout the  year.  The  intent of the  bill is to  separate a                                                               
little of  the large geographic  area with no malice  towards the                                                               
current MTAB  representative for  the area, who  is the  mayor of                                                               
Unalaska.   Instead,  the bill  would give  the communities  more                                                               
voice on  issues since the  AMHS is  Kodiak's highway as  well as                                                               
the small communities also served  by ferries.  In conclusion, he                                                               
related  that  the  bill  was   introduced  in  response  to  the                                                               
communities' need  with the added  goal of keeping the  cost very                                                               
low.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE  clarified that the bylaws  are addressed in                                                               
statute under AS 65.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:47:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE BAILOR,  Economic Development  Specialist, Kodiak  Chamber of                                                               
Commerce,  offered his  support  for  SB 24,  which  will add  an                                                               
additional seat  for Southcentral Alaska  to the MTAB board.   He                                                               
said that  this community needs  adequate representation  for the                                                               
Kodiak region to  communicate service needs for the  region.  The                                                               
Kodiak region  has been  growing and last  summer the  AMHS added                                                               
Old Harbor and Ouzinkie to its  M/V Tustumena route.  This brings                                                               
the total number of communities  served on Kodiak Island to four.                                                               
The    community   needs    reliable   and    consistent   marine                                                               
transportation  to  fuel growth  and  development  for the  whole                                                               
island.    Many  businesses  and  individuals  rely  on  the  M/V                                                               
Tustumena and  the M/V Kennicott to  provide basic transportation                                                               
and  shipping needs  to the  Kodiak region.   The  Kodiak region,                                                               
like other medium-sized Alaskan communities,  has seen a loss and                                                               
consolidation  of local  businesses.   The  community has  become                                                               
more reliant on  the Anchorage, and Kenai areas  to provide basic                                                               
needs.  However,  the only link to those communities  is the AMHS                                                               
except for  air freight.   A  few years  ago, Kodiak  Island lost                                                               
regular  barge service  from Western  Pioneer in  Seattle.   This                                                               
forced the  village leadership to  look for  other transportation                                                               
solutions  for  their  basic  necessities,  which  sometimes  has                                                               
involved using  more costly  air freight.   The U.S.  Coast Guard                                                               
transfers continue each summer and  many families use the AMHS to                                                               
relocate  their  families to  and  from  Kodiak Island.  Further,                                                               
local schools  and activity  groups use the  ferry to  keep costs                                                               
down and  enable more  kids to travel  to various  communities to                                                               
compete in  academics and  sports and to  also bring  students to                                                               
Kodiak for  home meets  and competition events.   The  economy in                                                               
the  Kodiak  region is  tied  to  its infrastructure,  which  the                                                               
community needs to continue to  develop, which includes the AMHS,                                                               
to support growth  for the region.  The first  step requires good                                                               
communication, which  will come with  the added seat on  the MTAB                                                               
to  represent   Kodiak,  [Old   Harbor,  Port   Lions,  Ouzinkie,                                                               
Seldovia, and  Homer].   In conclusion, he  said that  Kodiak and                                                               
Southcentral Alaska needs  the AMHS's support.   He urged members                                                               
to pass SB 24 this legislative session.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:50:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON made a  motion to adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1,                                                               
on page  2, line 10,  delete "retired" and  add "with 20  or more                                                               
years" after "engineer."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON explained that  it is sometimes difficult to find                                                               
retired people willing to serve  [on the MTAB], so an alternative                                                               
would  be to  have someone  serve  who has  20 or  more years  of                                                               
experience.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE objected for purpose of discussion.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE removed his objection.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:51:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE  moved to amend  Conceptual Amendment  1, to                                                               
add "experience" after  "with 20 or more years".   There being no                                                               
objection, the amendment to Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:52:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS   objected  for  the   purpose  of                                                               
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS   asked  whether  the   source  of                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 1 was feedback from MTAB.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON answered yes; a member of MTA suggested it.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS removed his objection.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.  WILSON  announced  that  Conceptual  Amendment  1,  as                                                               
amended was adopted.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:53:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE  moved to report  SB 24, as amended,  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There being  no  further objection,  the HCS  SB
24(TRA)  was  reported  from the  House  Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:54:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Transportation Standing  Committee meeting was adjourned  at 2:54                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            
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