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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE
January 16, 2001
1:10 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Vic Kohring, Chair
Representative Scott Ogan
Representative Drew Scalzi
Representative Peggy Wilson
Representative Mary Kapsner
Representative Albert Kookesh
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Beverly Masek, Vice Chair
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 6
Relating to opposition to the inclusion of national forests in
Alaska within President Clinton's Roadless Area Conservation
rule and supporting the overturning of this inclusion by
litigation, by congressional action, or by action of President-
elect Bush.
- MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE HJR 6 with an amendment attached
PREVIOUS ACTION
BILL: HJR 6
SHORT TITLE:ROADLESS POLICY
SPONSOR(S): WILSON
Jrn-Date Jrn-Page Action
01/10/01 0044 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/10/01 0044 (H) TRA, RES
01/10/01 0044 (H) REFERRED TO TRANSPORTATION
01/16/01 (H) TRA AT 01:00 PM CAPITOL 17
WITNESS REGISTER
SUSAN SCHRADER, Lobbyist
Alaska Conservation Voters
P.O. Box 22151
Juneau, Alaska 99802
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in opposition to HJR 6.
KATYA KIRSCH, Executive Director
Southeast Alaska Conservation Council (SEACC)
419 6th Street, Suite 328
Juneau, Alaska 99801
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in opposition to HJR 6.
SENATOR ROBIN TAYLOR
Alaska State Legislature
Capitol Building, Room 30
Juneau, Alaska 99801
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in support of HJR 6.
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 01-1, SIDE A
Number 0003
CHAIRMAN VIC KOHRING called the House Transportation Standing
Committee meeting to order at 1:10 p.m. Members present at the
call to order were Representatives Kohring, Ogan, Wilson,
Kapsner, and Kookesh. Representative Scalzi joined the meeting
as it was in progress.
hjr6
HJR 6-ROADLESS POLICY
Number 0127
CHAIRMAN KOHRING announced that the only resolution to be
considered would be HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 6, Relating to
opposition to the inclusion of national forests in Alaska within
President Clinton's Roadless Area Conservation rule and
supporting the overturning of this inclusion by litigation, by
congressional action, or by action of President-elect Bush.
Number 0187
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON, sponsor of HJR 6, explained that the
resolution opposes the Clinton Administration's decision on the
so-called roadless policy. She went on to say:
On January 5, 2001, President Clinton announced the
final Record of Decision for this policy. The reason
we are so concerned about this is because it includes
the Tongass and Chugach National Forests.
The presidential action really is an affront to all
Alaskans because it continues the history of breaking
promises to us [Alaskans] regarding land management.
It is a blatant disregard of the process that had been
agreed to all along. Countless hours, over 11 years
... there has been 13 million dollars already spent on
trying to keep in compliance with different things and
to make revisions to the Tongass Land Management Plan.
The Chugach Forest study has been underway for three
years, there again an investment of time, money, and
resources; and now, after all of the work has been
done-it's just totally disregarded.
It [the roadless policy] violates the "no more" clause
of the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act
(ANILCA) and approximately 15 million acres of new de
facto wilderness in Alaska. This will affect the
lives of many Alaskans, probably all indirectly,
especially in the areas of Southeast Alaska and the
Chugach. They are definitely going to feel it in
direct ways and many times.
I just ask that we work together to support the
overturning of this "roadless policy" inclusion by
litigation, congressional action or by action to
President [elect] Bush.
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON directed the attention of those present to
the resolution packet that included maps of the Tongass and
Chugach National Forests as well as letters from the Chugach
Alaska Corporation, the president and chief executive officer
(CEO) of SeaAlaska Corporation, and the Alaska Forest
Association.
CHAIRMAN KOHRING asked for testimony from the audience.
Number 0479
SUSAN SCHRADER, Lobbyist, Alaska Conservation Voters, stated
that the Alaska Conservation Voters and the sister organization,
the Alaska Conservation Alliance, are nonprofit organizations
serving as umbrella groups for 44 different Alaskan conservation
groups. The 44 member organizations and businesses represent
over 21,000 registered Alaskan voters, many of whom use the
Tongass and the Chugach National Forests for a variety of
reasons.
MS. SCHRADER told the committee that they [the organizations
that she represents] have supported President Clinton's work on
the existing roadless proposal and policy. She was present last
year at some of the discussions on HJR 54 [a similar resolution
to HJR 6].
MS. SCHRADER addressed some of the concerns about HJR 6 by
explained that the roadless policy and the way in which it was
adopted do not violate public process. The decision went
through the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969 (NEPA)
process over an 18-month period. Hearings were held throughout
the country at over 600 different sites. In Alaska, over 1,000
Alaskans testified and attended hearings. The communities where
hearings were held in Alaska include Anchorage, Girdwood,
Seward, Cordova, Sitka, Ketchikan, Juneau, Yakutat, Kake,
Tenakee, Hoonah, Petersburg, Thorne Bay, Craig, Angoon,
Gustavus, and Wrangell. Seventeen different communities in
Alaska had public hearings on the roadless policy. Over 62
percent of the folks that testified in the 17 communities
supported the policy and the inclusion of the Tongass and the
Chugach National Forests.
MS. SCHRADER said the policy does not violate the "no more"
clause of ANILCA. She said she thought that the issue might
have to be settled in the court system. She added that the
policy does not create new parks, refuges, and wilderness areas,
whether they are considered "de facto" wilderness.
Number 0663
MS. SCHRADER stated that the policy is a management tool for the
United States Department of Agriculture Forest Service (Forest
Service) for protecting "multiple use" in our national forest.
Protecting roadless areas would protect some communities' water
supplies. Some community watersheds are in roadless areas that
will be protected by this policy. It will help maintain water
quality for the fishing industry and will help preserve habitat
for wildlife that both subsistence and recreation hunters depend
on.
MS. SCHRADER explained that this policy does nothing to existing
roads on Forest Service land other than provide more money for
their maintenance. She went on to say:
The Forest Service has done studies. [There were]
many, many failing culverts. If the Forest Service is
not having to administer new road construction, there
will be additional money for upgrading, protecting,
repairing culverts, and continuing to provide access
that the existing roads already allow for Alaskans.
In many ways this is a better deal for Alaskans
because existing roads will have more maintenance
money.
MS. SCHRADER stated that the roadless policy does not mean the
end of the timber industry in Alaska. There are probably close
to ten billion board feet of timber in the Tongass National
Forest that are accessible by the existing road system. We have
over 4,600 miles of road in the Tongass. The existing road
system provides access to plenty of timber to support a modestly
sized industry in the Tongass.
MS. SCHRADER said that the Chugach [National Forest] has never
had a large commercial timber industry; the existing road system
will continue to allow the residents in the smaller communities
their ability to access the timber that they need for personal
use.
MS. SCHRADER suggested that Alaskans look at Washington State to
see how to benefit from the roadless policy. There has been
collateral damage that came with extensive road building
including landslides, damage to salmon streams, problems with
game poaching, and an increased risk of human-caused fires.
Number 0857
MS. SCHRADER said that the roadless policy will give Alaskans an
opportunity to do things differently here from what has been
done on other national forests, particularly the ones in the
Pacific Northwest. The policy will allow for better management
of the Tongass and the Chugach to benefit all users:
subsistence, recreational, and commercial. She urged people to
take a critical look at the policy and talk to the Forest
Service and people in Washington State. Seek to understand
their experiences with salmon habitat and how to avoid some of
those problems due to [the development of] roads, particularly
in the Tongass.
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN asked Ms. Schrader about her statement to
the committee, that [President Clinton's] roadless policy does
not violate public process. Representative Ogan said:
How [can] one man, a president, with one signature,
implementing such a broad sweeping policy that changes
the whole focus of the national forest, be anything
but an autocratic ramrod of his personal philosophy
[and he asked] what type of public process the people
had with the president of the United States.
MS. SCHRADER responded by saying that the decision [to support
the roadless policy] went through a NEPA process. This process
included scoping comments and a draft environmental impact
statement comment period; both had public comment periods during
the time when the 600 hearings were heard. It went through a
final environmental impact statement and a Record of Decision
was issued. She went on to say:
This was not-and please, someone can correct me if I
am wrong-this was not simply as [has] been described
as a federal fiat, an executive order. This was a
decision made through the NEPA process, such as all of
our timber sales go through, and many of the
environmental decisions-"they" go through a full NEPA
process.
MS. SCHRADER informed the committee that the position paper she
submitted earlier lists the number of hearings [held] around the
country and in Alaska. She said that it does not just represent
President Clinton's personal philosophy but the opinions, the
wishes, and the desires of many Americans and Alaskans; it is
soundly based in scientific evidence that suggests that keeping
large land tracts roadless is the best way to protect the
ecosystem.
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN stated that he holds Ms. Schrader's type of
organization responsible for the destruction of the forest,
especially in the Lower 48. He said that more timber has died
due to beetle kill because our forests aren't allowed to burn
anymore. He said that the forests need to be managed by harvest
or they become overripe; in the last ten years, more timber has
probably been wasted than could have been saved.
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN said that not having access to the forests
will hurt the ecosystem and the health of the forest more in the
long run, than will responsible management. He said that he
could tell, when flying over a tract of land, which is Forest
Service lease land because of the sustained yield management
principles that they use.
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH said that he thought maybe it was
forgotten that there are people living in the areas that would
be affected by the roadless policy.
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH used Angoon as an example of a community
faced with [loss of] beneficial development due to the roadless
policy. He stated that Angoon is surrounded by a national
monument and has the opportunity to put in a hydroelectric
project three miles from Angoon that would require a road. This
roadless policy would end the dream of having low-cost
electricity.
MS. SCHRADER responded that she did not feel that the roadless
policy was meant to prohibit advantageous development for a
small community [like Angoon].
MS. SCHRADER said that by not having a road, and by not logging
or being threatened by potential logging sales, it helps
maintain the water quality for small communities. She used
Washington State as an example of where there are problems with
salmon habitat due to road development. She said that there
will be specific instances [as in Angoon] where this policy
would make positive developments more difficult, but in looking
at history, there are considerable benefits to leaving large
tracts of land without road access.
MS. SCHRADER said that flying over the Tongass 300 years ago,
relatively healthy ecosystems would have been seen. She stated
that Mother Nature does a pretty good job of maintaining the
balance necessary without human interference.
MS. SCHRADER mentioned that there are few instances where humans
have interfered as massively as has been done on some of the
national forests. Washington [State] is an example of where
there has been an improvement upon what Mother Nature has been
able to do. She stated that she disagreed with Representative
Ogan.
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH followed up on the community water
supply. He stated that it is hard to protect the water supply
when there isn't one. He said that there are three communities
in his district that are looking for a new water supply and
intend to put a new one in. He stated that there are no
exceptions [which would] allow for the hydroelectric [project]
to go forward, or new water supplies to be found and utilized
because of the roadless policy. He said that he thought that
they [the community of Angoon] would have to resort to
litigation unless this is resolved before that time. He said
that the only way to get President Clinton's attention right now
is to do what [Tony Knowles] the governor of Alaska has done to
be supportive of that [Angoon's situation].
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH said that there are at least three other
communities with similar situations [to Angoon's]. He used the
example of road development in "lower Southeast", outlined in
the southeast transportation plan, that may not be able to be
built now [due to the roadless policy].
MS. SCHRADER, in reply to questions about her background, stated
that she has been in Juneau for ten years and is employed by
both the Alaska Conservation Alliance and the Alaska
Conservation Voters, two separate organizations. She has worked
on conservation issues during the past ten years and is
originally from the Pacific Northwest-Puget Sound Area.
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN, going back to a previous point about the
condition of the forests 300 years ago, stated that there wasn't
anything done to stop forest fires, a natural occurrence that
created forest health. Forest management began to stop forest
fires which is when the natural system got out of kilter and why
it requires good forest management. If burning does not happen,
then the forests needs to be cleared through logging.
Number 1479
KATYKA KIRSCH, Executive Director, Southeast Alaska Conservation
Council (SEACC), had the following testimony in support of the
roadless policy.
We are a coalition of 18 volunteer conservation groups
in 14 communities throughout Southeast Alaska, from
Yakutat to Ketchikan. I have lived in Southeast
Alaska for 26 years, in Haines much of the time,
Juneau, and Wrangell. During this quarter of a century
I have seen a lot of changes. I've seen many
thousands of acres of clearcuts, and in this last
decade I've seen a much more diversified economy,
including a huge growth in the tourism and recreation
industries as well as new high-tech businesses, more
sports fishing as well as a continuation of commercial
fishing, and much more.
It is time to stop looking backwards to recreate an
economy that chews through our landscape for the gain
of just one industry sector. Southeast Alaska's
largest industries depend on a healthy Tongass
National Forest. While employment in the timber
industry continues to decline, there have been a lot
of increases in many other areas including tourism,
recreation, construction, trade, health care, and
other parts of the service sector that continue to
march forward. We need you to have the wisdom to look
forward, instead of trying to continue the economy of
past years.
SEACC strongly supports the immediate inclusion of the
Tongass National Forest in the Forest Service roadless
area conservation plan. This decision is not about
closing down any of the nearly 5,000 miles of roads
that currently exist on the Tongass National Forest.
It is about managing these valuable wild lands for
multiple uses, such as hunting, fishing, subsistence,
recreation, and tourism.
Southeast Alaskans depend upon these roadless areas
for food, recreation, and income. For example, the
policy protects Farragut Bay, which is in the Port
Houghton area. Petersburg fishermen are concerned
about negative impacts to important king salmon
trolling areas and crab grounds in this water body
that would be impacted if there was logging in that
area.
The Forest Service and the administration listened to
what the people said. It is time for you to listen
also. The fact that the majority of Alaskans,
millions of Americans, the scientific community
support full and immediate protection of Tongass
roadless areas cannot be overlooked by those who may
challenge this decision.
The Forest Service held 617 public hearings-17 in
Alaska-that were attended by over 39,000 Americans.
There were more than 1.6 million comments received;
the vast majority of those supported inclusion of the
Tongass and the Chugach in the final rule.
Estimates based on eyewitness accounts show that
nearly 75 percent of the citizens who testified at
public hearings in Southeast Alaska's four largest
communities (Juneau, Ketchikan, Sitka, and Petersburg)
supported including the Tongass in the roadless
policy. In Ketchikan, which has been very pro-timber
for the past five decades, more than 40 percent of the
citizens publicly testified supporting including the
Tongass in the roadless policy. In 13 hearings held
across the region in Southeast, roughly 60 percent of
the Southeast Alaskans testified in support of
protecting all Tongass roadless areas from commercial
logging and road building. This outpouring of local
citizen support for applying the roadless policy on
the Tongass illustrates that Southeast Alaskans reject
the assumption that the recently revised Tongass plan,
by itself, will ensure the long-term integrity of our
nation's largest forest. It also reveals a desire for
the Tongass to be treated just like any other national
forest.
MS. KIRSCH continued:
In fact, the best rationale for including the Tongass
in the national roadless policy immediately was the
very product of implementing the Tongass Land
Management Plan (TLMP). As required by TLMP, the
Forest Service and other federal and state agencies
evaluated the ability of existing forest roads to meet
TLMP standards for fish passage. The results of this
inter-agency effort are shocking and show the legacy
of damage caused by road building on salmon and trout
habitat. According to the Tongass Road Condition
Survey Report, released by the Alaska Department of
Fish & Game (ADF&G) in June 2000, two-thirds of the
culverts crossing salmon streams are providing
inadequate fish passage; and 85 percent of culverts
crossing trout streams in Southeast are providing
inadequate fish passage.
Out of an estimated $20 million dollar backlog to fix
the nearly 1000 culverts that block safe fish passage,
the Forest Service has been budgeting only about a
half million dollars per year to fix these failing
roads. At this rate, it would take 40 years to fix
current fish passage problems on the Tongass. Instead
of this resolution, the Alaska legislature should call
for sufficient federal funding to fix these culverts-
providing jobs for Southeast Alaskans and safe passage
for wild salmon so important to our commercial, sports
fishermen, recreation, and tourism. The Forest
Service needs to use its shrinking budget to maintain
its existing road network instead of punching new
roads and clearcuts into roadless areas.
As a last note, it appears that HJR 6 was hastily
written. There are several errors in the "whereas"
sections. For example, the resolution claims that
"the forest products industry contributes significant
revenue to local communities through the 25 percent
revenue sharing provisions of federal law." However,
a new federal law (P.L. 106-393) that was passed last
year and guarantees stable payments for roads and
schools to local forest communities; according to that
formula provided under that statute, local governments
would get an annual payment equivalent to the average
payment of their three highest years of timber
receipts over the past 15 years. A reduction, if any,
in timber receipts on the Tongass from immediate
inclusion in the roadless policy will not reduce the
amount of money from Southeast Alaska communities that
they will be receiving for roads and schools.
Please look forward and not backward. Please do not
support this resolution. Instead, support fixing the
culverts which are impeding safe fish passage now,
providing jobs for Alaskans who fix them, and the
fishing and recreation industries which will thrive
along with wild salmon, wildlife, and wild roadless
forests. I thank you.
Number 1777
MS. SHRADER clarified for the record that in her previous
testimony she meant to say that 60 percent of the Southeast
residents who testified [testified in favor of the policy], not
60 percent of the Southeast residents.
Number 1801
SENATOR ROBIN TAYLOR, Alaska State Legislature, stated that they
[SEACC] had never filed suit to enjoin any of the clearcut
logging done by the Native community, which involves thousands
of acres. He said that the largest clearcuts allowed by the
Forest Service in the past 12 years had not exceeded 40 acres;
yet they [SEACC] filed lawsuits on each one of those.
SENATOR TAYLOR said to Ms. Kirsch:
Maybe you could explain to this committee, because I
am very curious about it, the duplicity and the
hypocrisy within that statement. You file on every
single Forest Service job, every single contract that
comes up. You participate, you file, you protest.
But when it comes to thousands of acres of clearcuts
in Southeast Alaska, not managed under the same
environmental constraints as the Forest Service was,
you never filed once. Please explain that to the
committee, why that happened.
MS. KIRSCH said that private land issues are a whole other
venue; with private land there is more entitlement to do
anything, so they have, for the most part, left it alone.
SENATOR TAYLOR recalled that Ms. Kirsch had said that 40 percent
of those citizens of Ketchikan who testified had testified in
favor of the roadless policy. Senator Taylor said that he was
present [in Ketchikan], and 90 percent of that 40 percent
started their testimony by saying:
I live on the East Coast, or I live in Wisconsin, or I
live someplace; I go to an East Coast college and I'm
up here guiding people on kayak tours. I've been
asked to come in because I heard this was going on,
and that's why I am here to support it.
SENATOR TAYLOR said that the majority of these people had been
in Alaska less than two months, guiding ecotourists, brought in
and paid for by the very same people that pay Ms. Kirsch's
salary. They were not citizens of Ketchikan, and he wanted to
make sure that people were not misinformed by her testimony. He
went on to mention that the majority of those people were not
even registered to vote in Alaska.
MS. KIRSCH pointed out to Senator Taylor that it [the Tongass]
is a national forest. She reiterated that 40 percent of those
who spoke in Ketchikan did speak in favor of the roadless
policy. She said that she could not speak to the residency [of
those who testified].
SENATOR TAYLOR clarified that he believed that those people who
testified had every right as U.S. citizens to talk about their
national forest. He reiterated his earlier comments about
misleading testimony by Ms. Kirsch.
MS. KIRSCH said that she had understood that there were a
variety of folks in Ketchikan, all citizens of this nation, and
that this national forest belongs to all.
Number 2017
SENATOR TAYLOR applauded Representative Wilson, sponsor of HJR
6, for bringing this resolution forward. He stated that the
backbone of Southeast Alaska has been broken; the future hangs
in the balance. He asked if the communities of Southeast Alaska
would continue to turn into isolated, small, Martha's Vineyards
for wealthy Californians, here in the summer and gone in the
winter.
SENATOR TAYLOR talked about the ecology 300 years ago and stated
that our forefathers cut down every tree they could get their
hands on to allow light to hit the ground to grow crops, to
raise a cattle. Today, farming on clearcut land with road
access allows the U.S. to feed the world at a tremendous rate.
SENATOR TAYLOR mentioned China and the Amazon Basin as examples
of areas where people are struggling with access to land and its
effects on their ability to survive. People are trying to get
into our country because our forefathers, in the last 300 years,
built roads and railroads. The economy in the Lower 48 runs on
roads. He asked, "And Alaska is somehow suppose to remain this
isolated, roadless park?"
Number 2227
SENATOR TAYLOR asked what multiple use there will be in a de
facto wilderness area. He said that it [the roadless policy]
would change the land management policy of the entire Southeast
Island Archipelago so that it is only available to an elite few.
SENATOR TAYLOR said that "our own people" are using a multiple-
use forest created by the Forest Service over the last 70 years.
There is the ability to hunt, fish, and recreate because there
is access. "It" also provides for roads for commerce, and for
an ambulance if the weather is so bad that a plane cannot fly
in.
Number 2305
SENATOR TAYLOR stated that it is interesting that the testifiers
have said that there are 4,500 miles of road on the Tongass, yet
none of those roads connect up. He used the example of Kake and
its proximity to Petersburg. He pointed out that the last half-
mile of road between the two communities has not been completed.
He talked about the difficulties in leaving an isolated
community to get medical attention, and having to wait for the
ferry.
SENATOR TAYLOR said that the two people who testified [from
SEACC and the Alaska Conservation Voters] head up organizations
that have, for 20 years, fought the connection of that road
[Kake and Petersburg]. These organizations fought the
connection of the road to allow the people up north to get to a
hospital. That battle was fought in Congress, and the road
never got built. He went on to say:
To allow this type of myopic thinking to go on in the
land management policies of Southeast will do nothing
more than to continue the destruction of the Southeast
economy as we know it.
Number 2357
SENATOR TAYLOR talked about halibut caught in Southeast Alaska
but sold in Prince Rupert and Haines because the price per pound
is higher due to the availability of transportation via trucks
and railway. Because the fish is sold elsewhere, the towns of
Ketchikan, Petersburg, and Wrangell do not get the 3 percent
fish tax that the state imposes to support communities;
processing jobs are also lost.
SENATOR TAYLOR said that [SEACC and Alaska Conservation Voters]
are fighting this. He asked people to think about where the
Lower 48 would be today if it had been constrained by the same
type of policies. Travel would have been stifled and people
would have never left the East Coast. He stated that this is
what "they" are trying to do to this economy.
SENATOR TAYLOR said that he did not think that "they" really
care about the environment or have some altruistic reason.
Every time they shut down a mill in Washington [State] or
Oregon, the need for fiber is still there, and the work goes to
the fertile triangle, Brazil, where there are no constraints.
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Number 2452
SENATOR TAYLOR said that "they knew" that as they destroyed the
"smoke stack industries" and the extract resource industries of
the U.S., they would force that same industry out of the U.S.
and into Third World Nations, over which they would have no
control. He said that "they" are not protesting there
[overseas], since there is no one to pay them and it does not
make national news.
SENATOR TAYLOR stated that Alaska has 66 of these organizations
in the state, groups like the Sierra Club; 90 percent of their
funding comes from outside of the state.
SENATOR TAYLOR applauded Representative Wilson for bringing this
up again [the information included in HJR 6]. He stated that it
is important for the district and the sponsor has his complete
support.
Number 2351
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON directed the attention of the committee to
a typing error on page 2, line 25 of HJR 6. She recommended
amending HJR 6 to read, "than 50,000,000 board feet" instead of
"than 5,000,000 board feet".
CHAIRMAN KOHRING approved the amendment.
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON verified for Chairman Kohring that this
was the only place in the legislation where the error had
occurred.
CHAIRMAN KOHRING asked for additional comments on the
legislation.
REPRESENTAIVE OGAN made a motion to move HJR 6, with the
amendment attached, out of committee with individual
recommendations and a zero fiscal note; he asked for unanimous
consent.
Number 2294
CHAIRMAN KOHRING asked if there were objections, and hearing
none, announced that HJR 6, with the amendment attached, was
moved out of the House Transportation Standing Committee.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:58
p.m.
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