Legislature(2019 - 2020)BARNES 124

03/14/2019 01:30 PM TRANSPORTATION

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01:30:00 PM Start
01:30:44 PM Alaska Marine Highway System: Public Testimony
03:32:15 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
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*+ HB 36 CONTAIN LOADS ON HIGHWAYS:EXEMPTIONS TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ Alaska Marine Highway System TELECONFERENCED
-- Public Testimony continued from 3/12/19 --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 14, 2019                                                                                         
                           1:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Louise Stutes, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Adam Wool, Co-Chair                                                                                              
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Representative Dave Talerico                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY SYSTEM                                                                                                    
     PUBLIC TESTIMONY CONTINUED FROM 3/12/19                                                                                    
          - HEARD                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 36                                                                                                               
"An Act repealing an exemption for containing or confining loads                                                                
being transported on highways; and providing for an effective                                                                   
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA HICKS                                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of the Alaska Marine                                                                
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TIMOTHY LINDOFF                                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of the Alaska Marine                                                                
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ELLIE HOBLET                                                                                                                    
False Pass, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MURPHY                                                                                                                     
False Pass, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MAKENA SANDELL                                                                                                                  
False Pass, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified against  reduced service  on the                                                             
Alaska Marine Highway System.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RYLEE MULKEY                                                                                                                    
False Pass, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified on  the importance of  the Alaska                                                             
Marine Highway System.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BRIANA SCHILLING                                                                                                                
Wrangell, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LUANN MCVEY                                                                                                                     
Douglas, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  in support of  continued funding                                                             
for the Alaska Marine Highway System.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KIRSA HUGHES-SKANDIJS                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA HUGHES-SKANDIJS                                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
FATHER FRANK REITTER                                                                                                            
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS BERN                                                                                                                      
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOE MACINKO                                                                                                                     
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Urged the  legislature to  submit a  veto-                                                             
proof budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATHY PEAVEY                                                                                                                    
Craig, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARY THOLE                                                                                                                      
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TONY GREGORIO                                                                                                                   
Chignik Lagoon, Alaska                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ROSETTA PRING                                                                                                                   
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LENNON JENNINGS                                                                                                                 
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ROYCE BORST                                                                                                                     
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
AYDEN FLORES                                                                                                                    
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
EZEKIEL COUGHRAN                                                                                                                
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH BACOM                                                                                                                 
Petersburg, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARILYN MENISH-MEUCCI                                                                                                           
Petersburg, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CATHY RENFELDT, Executive Director                                                                                              
Cordova Chamber of Commerce                                                                                                     
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DAVID OTNESS                                                                                                                    
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE REIFENSTEIN                                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TRAVIS LEWIS                                                                                                                    
Alaskans For Alaska                                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN WILSON, JR.                                                                                                              
Organized Village of Kake                                                                                                       
Kake, Alaska                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DONALD WESTLUND                                                                                                                 
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CAMILLA GAINE                                                                                                                   
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MJ CADLE                                                                                                                        
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BETH SHORT-RHOADS                                                                                                               
Sitka, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT NIELSEN                                                                                                                  
Sitka, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
FAITH LEE                                                                                                                       
Sitka, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHANDLER O'CONNELL                                                                                                              
Sitka, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MELISSA CULLUM                                                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COLTON WELCH                                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JANICE LEVY                                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  in opposition  to  cuts to  the                                                             
Alaska Marine Highway System.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER PETERSON                                                                                                                
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PAT JACOBSEN                                                                                                                    
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARY FORBES                                                                                                                     
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SHAWN DOCHTERMANN                                                                                                               
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MATT MOIR                                                                                                                       
North Pacific Seafoods                                                                                                          
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOSH COUGHRAN, Superintendent                                                                                                   
Skagway School District                                                                                                         
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PAIGE ROSS                                                                                                                      
Kake, Alaska                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JACKIE MULLER                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified in  opposition to  proposed cuts                                                             
and/or privatization of the Alaska Marine Highway System.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PAUL NELSON                                                                                                                     
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  opposition to proposed cuts to                                                             
the Alaska Marine Highway System.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TONY TENGS                                                                                                                      
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PENELOPE OSWALT                                                                                                                 
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BECKY CHAPEK                                                                                                                    
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEBRA ADAMS                                                                                                                     
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARY DAHLE                                                                                                                      
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ERIC WALLEN                                                                                                                     
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Testified  in support  of  Alaska  Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
GLENN WADE                                                                                                                      
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KRIS BENSON                                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JAYNE ANDREEN                                                                                                                   
Douglas, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Testified  in support  of  Alaska  Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BOB SYLVESTER                                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
STAN HJORT                                                                                                                      
Petersburg, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
GAYLE NICHOLSON TRIVETTE                                                                                                        
Petersburg, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHN KISER                                                                                                                      
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL MICKELSON                                                                                                               
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KAY GUYMON                                                                                                                      
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN WALSH                                                                                                                     
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MIKE SALLEE                                                                                                                     
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TRINA ARNOLD, Regional Director                                                                                                 
Juneau Office                                                                                                                   
Inlandboatmen's Union of the Pacific                                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System  on behalf  of 400  crewmembers currently  on AMHS                                                               
vessels.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JAMES FOSTER                                                                                                                    
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JEFF KASPER, Southeast Regional Manager                                                                                         
Alaska Public Employees Association                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JUSTIN PARISH                                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DAN EGOLF                                                                                                                       
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK PHILPOTT                                                                                                                
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JAN WRENTMORE, President                                                                                                        
Skagway Marine Access Commission                                                                                                
Skagway, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SETH HOWARD                                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Anchorage                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PAT PALKOVIC                                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
FRED STURMAN                                                                                                                    
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of cuts to  the state                                                             
budget and the distribution of those cuts throughout the state.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MIKE MCCARTHY                                                                                                                   
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
POPPY BENSON                                                                                                                    
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BECKY WORKMAN                                                                                                                   
Sitka, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JAN TROJAN                                                                                                                      
Craig, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System  on behalf  of herself and  others from  Prince of                                                               
Wales Island.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LACY FOSMORE                                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SARAH ROARK                                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE NIEMI                                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN MCCARTHY                                                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
NOLA LAMKEN                                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BOB CRUISE                                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ELLIE CULLUM                                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ANN FOSTER DOMBKOWSKI                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
FRANK LEE                                                                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER LENDE, Assembly Member                                                                                                  
Haines Borough Assembly                                                                                                         
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CATHRYN COATS                                                                                                                   
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARGIE DEMMERT                                                                                                                  
Angoon, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LAURA STEELE                                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD COOK                                                                                                                    
Haines, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SHAWNA WILLIAMS-BUCHANAN                                                                                                        
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE DALTON, JR.                                                                                                              
Hoonah, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN MAHLEN                                                                                                                  
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MARCELO QUINTO, President                                                                                                       
Camp 70                                                                                                                         
Alaska Native Brotherhood                                                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  support of the  Alaska Marine                                                             
Highway System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:30:00 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CO-CHAIR LOUISE  STUTES called the House  Transportation Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   1:30  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Drummond, Talerico,  Story, and Stutes  were present at  the call                                                               
to  order.    Representatives  Wool and  Claman  arrived  as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY SYSTEM: PUBLIC TESTIMONY                                                                                 
         ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY SYSTEM: PUBLIC TESTIMONY                                                                     
                     Continued from 3/12/19                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:30:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STUTES announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be a  hearing on the  Alaska Marine  Highway System (AMHS).   She                                                               
explained that the  scheduled hearing for HB 36  was postponed to                                                               
allow for  additional public testimony  on AMHS.  She  noted that                                                               
the usual committee  aide is not present, as she  is currently on                                                               
a ferry and interviewing riders about the importance of AMHS.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STUTES recognized  that the record for  number of public                                                               
testifiers  was broken  during the  two preceding  AMHS hearings.                                                               
She thanked members of the  public for their participation.  "Our                                                               
ferries are  important to  us," she stated,  "and you  are making                                                               
that  very clear."   She  said the  public participation  sends a                                                               
loud and clear message to  the administration of Governor Michael                                                               
J. Dunleavy  that AMHS is  every bit  as critical to  Alaskans as                                                               
land highways.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STUTES noted  that public testimony would  be limited to                                                               
one minute to allow everyone the opportunity to speak.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
1:32:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA HICKS relayed  that she began riding AMHS  ferries in 1974                                                               
when she  lived on  Annette Island with  the United  States Coast                                                               
Guard  (USCG).   She described  the  wonderful   occasion of  the                                                               
first ferry coming to Metlakatla.   She shared that she continued                                                               
to  ride the  ferries  after moving  to Sitka  and  Juneau.   She                                                               
expressed disappointment  that some committee members  are not in                                                               
attendance.    She observed  that  those  members represent  non-                                                               
coastal [communities].   She stressed that those  members are the                                                               
ones who "need to  hear it most."  She noted  that she is wearing                                                               
green and  orange for luck  in anticipation of St.  Patrick's Day                                                               
and commented  that she hopes  the state  budget will not  be "an                                                               
April Fool's  budget" for AMHS.   She remarked  that legislators'                                                               
cars are carried to Juneau every  year on AMHS ferries at no cost                                                               
to  them.   She  thanked  the  committee for  hearing  additional                                                               
testimony.  She concluded, "It's  not only our lifeline; it's our                                                               
bloodline.      She  characterized  AMHS  as   the  lifeline  and                                                               
bloodline  of  coastal  communities and  said  those  communities                                                               
would die without it.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:34:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIMOTHY LINDOFF spoke some words  in Tlingit, which he called the                                                               
language of his grandfather.  He said the following in English:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Our grandparents  ... did,  in the  past, to  work with                                                                    
     the  state.   When  Bill Egan  was  first governor,  we                                                                    
     brought  the  first  ferries  in  Southeast  Alaska  to                                                                    
     Hoonah.   I was a  fairly young  man; I was  so excited                                                                    
     ... [knowing] that I was able to work on there.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. LINDOFF thanked the people present.   He shared that he had a                                                               
stroke in  2009 and was "fortunate  enough to come through."   He                                                               
thanked  "all   the  great  people   that  are   testifying"  and                                                               
emphasized  the importance  of [the  ferries].   He said,   thank                                                               
you in Tlingit and expressed appreciation to "each one of you."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:36:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELLIE HOBLET  informed the  committee that  she is  a third-grade                                                               
student  from False  Pass, Alaska.   She  listed the  reasons the                                                               
ferry is important to her community, as follows:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     If the  ferry goes away,  then the population  of False                                                                    
     Pass will  get lower because  of the difficulties.   In                                                                    
     some communities that  is the only way they  can get in                                                                    
     and out  of town.  Another  reason we need to  keep the                                                                    
     ferry running  is because when the  plane has something                                                                    
     wrong with it  then the ferry can come  and pick people                                                                    
     up.   But I think the  most important thing is  that it                                                                    
     brings  people  together   from  different  communities                                                                    
     close  by, because  we need  to  see family.   For  me,                                                                    
     these  are really  important reasons  why  we need  the                                                                    
     ferry.   Please  have Alaska  keep  the ferry.   It  is                                                                    
     important to me and Alaska.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MURPHY  relayed that he  attends to  False Pass School.   He                                                               
said, "We  need the ferry  to move people  into False Pass."   He                                                               
explained that  the ferry is  important because visitors  come to                                                               
the region and  "buy things."  He said the  ferry is important to                                                               
those  who live  in  Alaska.   During  summer,  the ferry  brings                                                               
people from  all over the  world to  False Pass, "and  some might                                                               
like to stay."  He said the  population of False Pass is 150, and                                                               
that number  would diminish without the  ferry.  He noted  that a                                                               
lower  population is  bad  for  False Pass  and  could result  in                                                               
residents losing their school.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:39:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAKENA SANDELL  identified herself  as a  high school  student at                                                               
False Pass  School.  She  said the  State of Alaska  (SOA) should                                                               
not  reduce ferry  service because  it is  an important  means of                                                               
transportation that  is more affordable  than flying.   She noted                                                               
that planes  bring mail  to False Pass,  but not  many passengers                                                               
because  the cost  is prohibitive.   She  added that  the ferries                                                               
transport  bicycles, kayaks,  and motor  vehicles to  False Pass.                                                               
She questioned how False Pass  residents would be able to replace                                                               
their  vehicles  without ferry  service.    She said  False  Pass                                                               
School holds  fundraisers for school equipment  and school trips.                                                               
She explained  that much  of that money  is raised  during "Ferry                                                               
Friday,"  during which  students sell  jewelry, glass  balls, and                                                               
baked  goods to  tourists  on the  ferry.   She  noted that  many                                                               
community  members  earn extra  income  from  tourists who  would                                                               
likely not  visit the  Aleutian Islands  without the  ferries, as                                                               
airfare is expensive. She asked  the committee to ensure [ferries                                                               
run] in the future.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:41:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYLEE MULKEY said  he would like to inform  legislators about the                                                               
importance of the  ferries.  He said they allow  people to travel                                                               
from Cold  Bay to  False Pass  to visit family  and friends.   He                                                               
remarked that  the ferries  are important  drivers of  income and                                                               
referenced the bake sale fundraisers  for school field trips.  He                                                               
expressed  hope that  this income  source  does not  close.   Mr.                                                               
Mulkey said  that without the  ferry, people  may not be  able to                                                               
experience the  beauty of  the Aleutians, such  as seeing  a bear                                                               
with cubs, a pod of whales, or even "some porpoises passing by."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:42:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIANA SCHILLING  testified in support  of AMHS.   She identified                                                               
herself as  a 24-year-old  resident of  Wrangell, Alaska,  with a                                                               
four-month-old son.   She  explained that her  child was  born in                                                               
Juneau, as  no one in her  small town delivers babies.   She said                                                               
all pregnant women  who live on Wrangell Island must  leave it to                                                               
give  birth.    She  noted  that  this  is  true  of  many  small                                                               
communities in the  state.  She credited AMHS for  its ability to                                                               
transport her, her  family, and her vehicle to  Juneau, where she                                                               
spent a  month waiting  for her son  to be born.   She  said this                                                               
method  was "simple,  reliable, and  cost-effective."   She noted                                                               
that it  would not  have been  possible through  Alaska Airlines,                                                               
which  provides  the  only  other  means  of  transportation  off                                                               
Wrangell Island.   She stated  that she returned to  Wrangell via                                                               
AMHS when  her son was a  week old.  Ms.  Schilling remarked, "I,                                                               
as well  as many  others, rely on  the ferry system.   It  is our                                                               
vital  method of  transportation.    It is  our  highway, and  we                                                               
depend on it."  She thanked the committee for listening.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUANN MCVEY  asked the committee  to preserve funding  to support                                                               
AMHS.  She continued:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     To balance the  state's budget, we need  to stop paying                                                                    
     the  oil  companies  to  take  our  oil,  cap  or  stop                                                                    
     [permanent   fund   dividend]   (PFD)   payments,   and                                                                    
     institute an income tax.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Yes, the ferries are subsidized.   According to a March                                                                    
     2016 study  by the McDowell  Group, in 2014,  the state                                                                    
     spent $117 million on the  ferries, with a net economic                                                                    
     benefit  of  $273  million,  thus  Alaska  gets  a  133                                                                    
     percent  return   on  its  investment  in   the  marine                                                                    
     highways.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCVEY said since coming  to Alaska in 1957, three generations                                                               
of her  family have been able  to explore Alaska and  visit other                                                               
towns for  work, school,  and recreation.   She  emphasized, "The                                                               
ferries are  not a  frivolous expense  for those  of us  who live                                                               
here in  places that are  not connected to  roads.  They  are our                                                               
roads."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:44:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIRSA HUGHES-SKANDIJS  relayed some  of the challenges  that face                                                               
people who need to move their  households into and out of Alaska.                                                               
She  noted  that  some  of  these  people  are  military  service                                                               
members.  She remarked that, if  any member of those families has                                                               
a  history of  driving under  the influence  (DUI), then  driving                                                               
through  Canada   is  not  an   option.    She  noted   that  air                                                               
transportation can be prohibitively  expensive, especially with a                                                               
large amount  of cargo to  move.  She said  AMHS is not  only the                                                               
indubitable lifeblood of the coastal  communities, but it is also                                                               
the only  way   except  by air   that  people can enter  or leave                                                               
the  state without  leaving the  country.   She  mused that  this                                                               
point  has been  overlooked by  "people in  the Interior  and the                                                               
Mat-Su."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA HUGHES-SKANDIJS  quoted Governor  Michael J.  Dunleavy, as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     I don't envision at any time that there would not be a                                                                     
     functional and robust ferry service in Southeast, the                                                                      
     panhandle of Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. A. HUGHES-SKANDIJS said she  too cannot envision such a thing                                                               
because  AMHS and  its ferries  are vital  to Southeast  Alaska's                                                               
economy and  community, as well as  the health and safety  of its                                                               
residents.    She  said  cuts  to  AMHS  would  affect  not  just                                                               
Southeast Alaska,  but other coastal  communities too.   She said                                                               
AMHS is  also vital  to the  state economy,  culture, and  way of                                                               
life, as well  as the health of residents across  the state.  She                                                               
stated, "The ferries  are our road system."  She  said she cannot                                                               
imagine "any way to go forward if  you shut down a road system in                                                               
any other part  of the state."  She emphasized  her opposition to                                                               
the proposed  cuts to AMHS  and urged [the legislature]  to fully                                                               
fund it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:47:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FATHER  FRANK REITTER  identified himself  as the  pastor at  St.                                                               
Mary's  Catholic  Parish   in  Kodiak  and  noted   that  he  was                                                               
previously  a  pastor  in  Valdez,  Cordova,  Dutch  Harbor,  and                                                               
Unalaska.  He stated that he  is testifying on behalf of himself.                                                               
He noted that  288 people testified during a  previous hearing on                                                               
Tuesday,  March 12,  2019.    He said  this  indicates the  "dire                                                               
straits"  costal   Alaskans  would  find  themselves   in  should                                                               
proposed cuts  to AMHS be enacted.   He said the  testifiers have                                                               
made  the  reasons [for  preserving  the  ferry system]  and  the                                                               
impact [of not doing so] abundantly clear.  He continued:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The Coast  Guard, the State Police,  and local agencies                                                                    
     spend millions  of dollars to  prepare to be,  and then                                                                    
     to be, a lifeline to save  one individual.  No one asks                                                                    
     if  it's cost-effective.   Roads  are  the lifeline  of                                                                    
     communities.   There  would  be  a radically  different                                                                    
     Alyeska  without   the  Seward  Highway;   a  radically                                                                    
     different  Wasilla  or   Talkeetna  without  the  Parks                                                                    
     Highway;  a  radically  different  Alaska  without  the                                                                    
     [Alaska-Canadian Highway]  (ALCAN).  People  in coastal                                                                    
     communities   are  some   of  the   most  hard-working,                                                                    
     creative, and  iconic Alaskans.   Please keep  the same                                                                    
     lifeline their landed brethren have.  Thank you.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:48:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS BERN  identified himself as  a six-year resident  of Kodiak                                                               
representing himself.  He remarked,  "You do not realize what you                                                               
have until it's  gone."  He recalled what Kodiak  Island was like                                                               
in the early 1960s before  the Motor Vessel (M/V) Tustumena began                                                               
service.  He said, "Back then  it was funded by tickets sales and                                                               
a state income tax   that  was all pre-oil."  He recalled [riding                                                               
the ferry]  to go to  sports tournaments  a couple times  a year.                                                               
He  opined,  "There was  a  need  then and  there  is  now."   He                                                               
advocated  against closing  AMHS  and characterized  the idea  as                                                               
"poor thinking."   He argued that the ferry system  worked in the                                                               
late 1960s and should be able to do  so now.  He noted that a new                                                               
ferry  dock  was  constructed  on  Kodiak Island  at  a  cost  of                                                               
millions of  dollars, so  to "mothball all  that stuff"  does not                                                               
make sense.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE MACINKO identified himself as  a 45-year resident [of Kodiak]                                                               
and  a previous  resident  of Sand  Point, Alaska.    He said  he                                                               
supports the  ferry but argued that  it does not matter  how much                                                               
heartfelt testimony is  given; the ferry will be  lost unless the                                                               
House  of  Representatives  and   Senate  produce  a  "veto-proof                                                               
budget" to  circumvent Governor Dunleavy's line-item  veto power.                                                               
He opined  that the governor has  already shown he does  not care                                                               
for  rural Alaska.   He  restated his  message for  the House  of                                                               
Representatives  and Senate  to ensure  the budget  is veto-proof                                                               
before it is submitted.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:50:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHY  PEAVEY  testified that  she  fully  supports "keeping  the                                                               
Alaska Marine Highway operation [sic]."   She commented that AMHS                                                               
employs  many  people  she  knows, and  "those  workers  are  the                                                               
healthy  lifelines  of our  communities.     She noted  she  also                                                               
supports the  Inter-Island Ferry Authority.   She described times                                                               
she has relied  upon AMHS, including an instance  when she needed                                                               
to transport  her vehicle for  repair to  Bellingham, Washington,                                                               
as the job could not be done in  Alaska.  She stated that she has                                                               
used AMHS for  over 30 years to  travel up and down  the coast of                                                               
Alaska  and to  Canada and  Washington.   She voiced  support for                                                               
AMHS workers.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:51:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY THOLE said  she supports AMHS and shared that  AMHS has been                                                               
a lifeline for her family  in transporting them for medical care.                                                               
She  said  the  ferry  also   provides  access  to  home-building                                                               
resources  and affordable  groceries  in Juneau,  as  well as  to                                                               
Juneau  International Airport.   Without  this access,  she said,                                                               
Skagway residents  would have to  drive to  Canada to shop.   She                                                               
stated  that residents  of  Skagway  need to  be  able to  access                                                               
affordable health  care via affordable,  reliable transportation.                                                               
She said the  ferries are a consistent means of  travel to access                                                               
advanced  health care.    She  noted that  AMHS  ferries are  the                                                               
primary  means  by  which local  students  travel  to  leadership                                                               
conferences  and competitions  for sports,  robotics, and  drama,                                                               
debate,  and forensics.    She stated,  "The  ferry connects  our                                                               
school districts in a way  that students in Anchorage visit their                                                               
rival schools  by the bus  system."   She said airline  travel is                                                               
far too expensive for [such travel].                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:53:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TONY  GREGORIO, testifying  from Chignik  Lagoon, Alaska,  stated                                                               
that the  ferry system is vital  to his community.   He explained                                                               
that air  freight costs  are very expensive.   He  indicated that                                                               
the recent fishing season was   the worst season we've ever had."                                                               
He  noted that  elderly people  in  his community  depend on  the                                                               
ferry to travel to and  from Anchorage because they cannot afford                                                               
to  fly.   He noted  that salmon  fishing is  virtually the  only                                                               
source of income in the community.   He concluded, "If we have to                                                               
take my PFD, take it.  I mean, we need this ferry system."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:54:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROSETTA PRING told the committee that  she is a sixth grader from                                                               
Skagway  who  is  representing  herself.    She  asked  committee                                                               
members  to  imagine that  one  of  their  family members  had  a                                                               
terrible illness and  "you couldn't go and help them."   She said                                                               
this could happen  to everyone who depends on AMHS  if it were to                                                               
shut down.  She asked, "Do you  really want that to happen to the                                                               
state?"   She opined  that the  ferry is a  gateway to  the world                                                               
outside Skagway; it is needed  for "sports, family vacations, and                                                               
emergency  getaways."    She  said  the ferry  "means  a  lot  to                                                               
different  people in  different  ways,"  including family  issues                                                               
thousands  of  miles  away  and "a  luxury  vacation  that  we're                                                               
missing  out  on."    Ms.   Pring  said  she  has  begun  playing                                                               
basketball and has not been able  to travel [with her team] once.                                                               
She said that's not fair.  She  noted that the cost of air travel                                                               
is  high,   so  ferries   are  the   only  affordable   means  of                                                               
transportation available.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:55:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LENNON JENNINGS,  a fifth  grader at  Skagway City  School, asked                                                               
that AMHS be funded.  He  argued that many people would be forced                                                               
out of  Southeast Alaska  if the ferry  system went  unfunded, as                                                               
people  would  not  want  to  live  in  places  without  reliable                                                               
transportation  like Skagway.   He  relayed how  his teacher  was                                                               
able  to ride  a  ferry  during poor  weather  to  visit a  dying                                                               
relative,  something that  would not  have been  possible without                                                               
AMHS.  He  said it would be heartbreaking if  someone were unable                                                               
to  visit  a dying  family  member  because  there was  no  ferry                                                               
service.   He noted that school  sports would be affected  by the                                                               
ferry  not running,  as students  would  be unable  to travel  to                                                               
other communities  to play other  teams.  Mr.  Jennings described                                                               
riding the ferry with friends as "the best thing ever.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:57:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROYCE  BORST, a  fifth grader  from Skagway,  stated that  school                                                               
activities   depend   on   AMHS   service.     He   relayed   the                                                               
disappointment  he   felt  when   a  basketball   tournament  was                                                               
canceled.   He urged the  legislature not to "cancel  the ferry."                                                               
Mr.  Borst said  he and  his family  travel by  ferry to  catch a                                                               
flight  in Juneau  when  they  want to  visit  family members  in                                                               
Wisconsin.   He said  his family  would no longer  be able  to do                                                               
this  if   ferry  service  is   canceled,  because   flights  are                                                               
expensive,  and airplanes  cannot  fly out  of  Skagway when  the                                                               
weather is inclement.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:57:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AYDEN FLORES,  a fifth  grader, testified  in support  of keeping                                                               
the  ferry.    He  said  the ferry  is  needed  by  families  for                                                               
vacations and by the school  for transportation to events related                                                               
to robotics,  track, and basketball.   He said those  trips would                                                               
likely  not be  possible without  ferries.   He relayed  that the                                                               
weather  in Skagway  results  in a  high  likelihood of  canceled                                                               
flights.  Mr. Flores said it  would be impossible for his parents                                                               
to  made essential  work  trips    including  to  other states                                                                  
without AMHS.  He also spoke  to the role ferries play in helping                                                               
people visit sick  relatives outside of Skagway,  noting that his                                                               
grandmother lives far away and is a smoker.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:59:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EZEKIEL  COUGHRAN   named  two   reasons  why  the   ferries  are                                                               
important:   For visiting sick/dying relatives  and for attending                                                               
sports competitions.   He relayed  that he was recently  upset to                                                               
have a  sports trip canceled  because the ferry  was unavailable,                                                               
and flights were not  able to depart Skagway.  He  said to not be                                                               
able to travel  out of Skagway during inclement  weather would be                                                               
devastating.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:00:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH BACOM testified  in support of AMHS and  argued that it                                                               
is  necessary  for island  communities.    She relayed  that  her                                                               
pickup truck had  an airbag recall but no  mechanic in Petersburg                                                               
would make the  repair.  She explained that to  barge the vehicle                                                               
would have been  a hassle and would have left  her family without                                                               
a  vehicle for  two weeks.    She described  the process  through                                                               
which she rode  the ferry to get the truck  repaired.  "Even with                                                               
the  reduced  schedule," she  said,  "it  worked  for us."    She                                                               
mentioned that there was a  time in January when five consecutive                                                               
Alaska Airlines flights  over two and a half days  did not arrive                                                               
to  or  leave   from  Petersburg.    "Without   the  ferry,"  she                                                               
explained, "there  is no redundancy in  transportation for island                                                               
communities that have  failed air transport."   She recalled that                                                               
in  the aftermath  of  [the terrorist  attacks  of September  11,                                                               
2001,] there  were no planes flying  for three days.   She argued                                                               
that,  before  cutting, there  should  be  a thorough,  unbiased,                                                               
impact analysis.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:01:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARILYN  MENISH-MEUCCI  identified  herself   as  a  resident  of                                                               
Petersburg since 1961.  She  recalled watching M/V Malaspina make                                                               
its first  trip through  Wrangell Narrows.   She stated  that she                                                               
supports  full funding  for AMHS.   She  called AMHS  crucial for                                                               
residents  of coastal  communities.   She said  coastal residents                                                               
use AMHS  for almost  everything connected to  their lives.   She                                                               
remarked  that there  is  not  one state  highway  that pays  for                                                               
itself.    She  said  she  does  not  want  $90,000  spent  on  a                                                               
consultant.   She  remarked,  "The  statewide steering  committee                                                               
looking into the  future of the Alaska Marine Highway  that is in                                                               
place now should be trusted to  come up with options."  She noted                                                               
that the  steering committee  members "all live  here and  have a                                                               
vested  interest in  getting  it  right."   She  shared that  she                                                               
supports  a   state  income  tax,   a  $10  school  tax,   and  a                                                               
smaller/eliminated PFD.  She  remarked, "Restart the reservations                                                               
for the  Alaska Marine Highway  for this fall otherwise  you will                                                               
definitely kill the Alaska Marine Highway."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHY RENFELDT, Executive Director,  Cordova Chamber of Commerce,                                                               
said  AMHS is  a  vital  and essential  means  of  travel out  of                                                               
Cordova.  She  said it is also a necessary  shipping resource for                                                               
Cordova's businesses  and the Copper  River salmon fishery.   She                                                               
relayed  that six  of the  nation's top  12 ports  for commercial                                                               
seafood  landing rely  on AMHS  as their  only connection  to the                                                               
hard road system.  She stated that  it is in the best interest of                                                               
all Alaska businesses to have  a year-round ferry system carrying                                                               
customers.    She remarked  that  dismantling  AMHS would  likely                                                               
force up to 75,000 residents of  27 communities off the hard road                                                               
system  and  cause  them  to   make  purchases  through  Seattle,                                                               
completely  bypassing Anchorage  and  the rest  of  Alaska.   She                                                               
stated that  this would mean  a huge  loss of revenue  for Alaska                                                               
businesses.   She opined  that AMHS needs  reform but  noted that                                                               
the  AMHS Reform  Steering  Committee has  already  put time  and                                                               
money into a  comprehensive study.  She stressed  that SOA should                                                               
work off that study.  She  said SOA has many financial challenges                                                               
but emphasized the importance of AMHS.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID OTNESS  criticized Senate  Bill 21  [passed in  the Twenty-                                                               
Eighth Alaska  State Legislature]  and the  oil tax  credits that                                                               
resulted from it.  He argued that  Senate Bill 21 is the cause of                                                               
the current budget debate.  He  noted that SOA funded AMHS for 15                                                               
years "prior to oil."  He  also referenced federal subsidies.  He                                                               
opined  that  the governor's  proposed  budget  was drawn  up  by                                                               
"ultra-right  libertarian   groups"  with   the  goal   of  broad                                                               
privatization.   He suggested  that people  look up  the American                                                               
Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) to  "find out what's going on                                                               
with this governor and a lot of representatives."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE  REIFENSTEIN said  he  spent 18  years  working on  [AMHS]                                                               
ships.   He briefly discussed his  career.  He noted  that he was                                                               
appointed   and  served   as   Operations   Manager  during   the                                                               
administrations  of Governors  Steve  Cowper,  Wally Hickel,  and                                                               
Tony Knowles.   He characterized  AMHS as  a weave   that enables                                                               
commerce,  creates educational  opportunities, and  brings people                                                               
together.   He said it was   not an accident  that  the surveying                                                               
for AMHS ferry  terminals began immediately after  statehood.  He                                                               
characterized AMHS as  "a compact to bring  the rural communities                                                               
on  par with  the more  urban  centers.    He opined  that it  is                                                               
important to remember  that the connection delivered  by AMHS was                                                               
owed and promised to the people of Alaska.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRAVIS  LEWIS,  Alaskans For  Alaska,  said  he  grew up  in  the                                                               
community of Elfin  Cove and now lives in Hoonah.   He noted that                                                               
he cannot  remember a  major life  or family  event that  did not                                                               
involve a ferry ride.   He relayed anecdotes of a  birth and of a                                                               
funeral  involving a  ferry ride.   He  identified himself  as "a                                                               
retired airborne infantry officer" and  noted that he has been to                                                               
six of the seven continents.   He commented that everywhere where                                                               
there  is  cheap  energy  and  cheap  transportation,  there  are                                                               
healthy  people  and a  thriving  economy.    He noted  that  the                                                               
locations that  do not have  cheap energy and  transportation are                                                               
home to people  in poverty.  He asked the  committee to not "turn                                                               
the   coastal  area   of  Alaska   into  a   third-world  country                                                               
situation."   He  remarked,  Everyone  in Alaska  is in  the same                                                               
lifeboat; if  one side goes  down, we're  all going to  get wet."                                                               
He invited  committee members to research  Governor Jay Hammond's                                                               
"original tax plan  on the Permanent Fund and how  it should be."                                                               
He also  invited committee  members to look  at reports  on ferry                                                               
revenue  generated by  the Southeast  Conference.   He asked  the                                                               
committee members  to find a  way to tax  out-of-state businesses                                                               
that  come  to  rural  areas  and  do  not  contribute  to  local                                                               
infrastructure, noting that coastal communities are overwhelmed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:08:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN  WILSON,  JR.,  Organized   Village  of  Kake,  identified                                                               
himself as a representative of  the Organized Village of Kake and                                                               
said  he works  with  the federal  Tribal Transportation  Program                                                               
(TPP).   He  called  AMHS  the  lifeline  of coastal  communities                                                               
across Alaska, including  the Village of Kake.    He said members                                                               
of his  village depend  on AMHS for  delivery of  essential goods                                                               
and services.   He  stated that  the safety  of the  ferry system                                                               
allows Kake's  student athletes more opportunities  to travel and                                                               
compete.   He said Kake  residents rely  on the ferry  to connect                                                               
with family  in times of  sadness and  celebration.  He  said the                                                               
Organized Village  of Kake  opposes any  reduction in  service or                                                               
increase  in ferry  costs.   He asked  the chair's  permission to                                                               
submit Resolution  2019-03 by  the Organized  Village of  Kake in                                                               
full support of AMHS.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  let Mr. Wilson  know that the committee  aide would                                                               
be happy to receive the resolution.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:09:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONALD  WESTLUND noted  that  SB 38,  which  relates to  disaster                                                               
relief appropriations,  does not  contain funding  for AMHS.   He                                                               
stated that this  is a disaster for the coastal  communities.  He                                                               
called AMHS the safest and longest  highway in Alaska.  He asked,                                                               
"What price  do you put  on a life?"   He said he  supports using                                                               
all PFD  moneys for essential  services.   He added that  he does                                                               
not support an  income tax.  He  stated that he does  not want to                                                               
pay back a  portion of the PFD to SOA  or the federal government.                                                               
He  restated  that he  would  prefer  SOA  use  all his  PFD  for                                                               
essential services.   He compared dismantling  AMHS for Southeast                                                               
and Southwest Alaska to tearing  up Interstate-5 in the Lower 48.                                                               
He asked the committee to please support and fund AMHS.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAMILLA GAINE stated  that she is speaking on  behalf of maritime                                                               
communities.  She identified herself  as a resident of Alaska for                                                               
almost 25 years  and a current resident of Haines.   She said she                                                               
works  for  AMHS  as  an  oiler  on  M/V  Kennicott  but  is  not                                                               
testifying  to defend  her  livelihood as  she  is retiring  this                                                               
year.   She explained that  she is advocating  for a way  of life                                                               
and noted that Haines residents  depend on ferry service for mail                                                               
delivery,  access to  healthcare, and  job commuting.   She  said                                                               
AMHS   transports   Haines's   school  children   to   wintertime                                                               
competitions and  broadens their  educations by  providing access                                                               
to programs in other communities.   She said year-round residents                                                               
deserve improved, dependable,  and more-affordable ferry service,                                                               
especially in the winter months.  She continued:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Does  our   governor  and   his  imported   [Office  of                                                                    
     Management &  Budget] (OMB) director wish  to shut down                                                                    
     our  year-round  maritime  communities?   Or  are  they                                                                    
     merely  ambivalent  because the  AMHS  is  not part  of                                                                    
     their constellation of special interests?                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:11:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MJ  CADLE identified  herself as  a resident  of Ketchikan.   She                                                               
shared concerns  about what  would happen if  AMHS shut  down and                                                               
there  was  another event  like  the  [the terrorist  attacks  of                                                               
September  11, 2001],  meaning residents  of coastal  communities                                                               
would not be  able to leave.   She added that, in the  event of a                                                               
major emergency,  no one would  be able  to send help  to coastal                                                               
communities.   She expressed  additional concerns  about possible                                                               
oil  spills and  the role  of ferries  in carrying  responders to                                                               
affected waters.   She echoed previous  concerns about healthcare                                                               
and  the high  cost  of flying  to address  medical  needs.   She                                                               
stated that  she is in  favor of AMHS.   She said she  feels AMHS                                                               
should be  treated and  funded the  same as  road highways.   She                                                               
said, "I  think you should  charge tolls  on the highways  of the                                                               
North.   If you  close the ferries,  close the  highways; they're                                                               
the same."   She  shared her  support for  including restaurants,                                                               
bars, and  gift shops on  the ferries  to increase revenue.   She                                                               
also shared  her support  for lower  fares to  increase ridership                                                               
and revenue.   She  said there  should be a  ferry pass  like the                                                               
Eurail Pass.  She stated that  she would like to see an increased                                                               
schedule  to  spur economic  development.    She shared  concerns                                                               
about increased  shipping costs,  noting that costs  have doubled                                                               
over the  past decade.  She  remarked, "I am concerned  this is a                                                               
push for  the capital move by  decreasing access to Juneau  and I                                                               
am concerned it's a push for the highway out of Juneau."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:13:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETH  SHORT-RHOADS   identified  herself  as  a   Sitka  resident                                                               
representing herself.  She remarked as follows:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      We have a solution to our ferries.  It's the Alaska                                                                       
     Marine Highway Reform Initiative drafted by Southeast                                                                      
     Conference.    This plan  will  make  ferries a  viable                                                                    
     public  corporation owned  by  Alaskans  much like  the                                                                    
     Alaska railroad.  Ferries are  a good investment.  They                                                                    
     have  a $273  million economic  impact, provide  17,000                                                                    
     good-paying jobs,  and are a  main source  of transport                                                                    
     for  Alaska  seafood.   2019  is  a turning  point  for                                                                    
     Alaska and  we all  feel it.   Alaskans:  We're turning                                                                    
     out in  record numbers.   Keep speaking  out.   Talk to                                                                    
     lawmakers   about   the    ferry   reform   initiative.                                                                    
     Lawmakers: We  know you didn't  take this job  to watch                                                                    
     out infrastructure  crumble.  2019 is  your opportunity                                                                    
     to change history.  Thank you.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:13:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT   NIELSEN  identified   himself   as   a  Sitka   resident                                                               
representing himself.   He  reflected on  the original  intent of                                                               
AMHS  when it  was established  in the  1960s.   He spoke  to the                                                               
previous isolation of  coastal communities and the  high price of                                                               
groceries.   He advocated  for the entire  legislature to  take a                                                               
holistic approach  to lowering the cost  of transportation across                                                               
the state.  He advocated for lower prices of groceries and fuel.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:15:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FAITH  LEE identified  herself as  a Sitka  resident representing                                                               
herself.   She  asked  whether reductions  to  AMHS would  reduce                                                               
federal highway  funding in Alaska, and  by how much.   She urged                                                               
committee members  to consider the  impact of AMHS  reductions to                                                               
the culture of Alaska's coastal  communities.  She spoke to equal                                                               
access to  roads, connections,  and gatherings.   She  noted that                                                               
the ferries  are the  only means for  some communities  to access                                                               
fresh  produce.   She added  that  the ferries  allow members  of                                                               
coastal  communities to  come together  and  share meals,  noting                                                               
that  there  are  no  restaurants  in  small  communities.    She                                                               
reiterated that  cuts to  the ferries impact  the culture  of the                                                               
people of  Alaska.   She also mentioned  the loss  of living-wage                                                               
jobs.   She asked  how many  people would lose  their jobs.   She                                                               
referenced cuts to  education and asked how many  people "in your                                                               
department" would  lose their jobs.   She stated,  "Alaskans must                                                               
support Alaskans."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:16:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHANDLER  O'CONNELL  identified herself  as  "a  born and  raised                                                               
Sitkan"  representing herself.   She  said AMHS  is critical  for                                                               
Sitka's small businesses,  healthcare, educational opportunities,                                                               
family   connections,   emergency   services,   and   independent                                                               
travelers.  She pointed to  independent travelers as "a potential                                                               
growth  industry for  our state."    She said  AMHS is  essential                                                               
infrastructure and just as fundamental  as any of Alaska's state-                                                               
funded   roads.     She   said  to   eliminate   AMHS  would   be                                                               
discriminatory against  coastal villages.  She  remarked that the                                                               
state's current  challenges offer  an opportunity to  discuss the                                                               
kinds  of infrastructure  necessary to  accomplish its  goals and                                                               
grow in  the future.   She shared  her support for  a progressive                                                               
income tax  and the repeal  of some oil company  subsidies before                                                               
cutting  essential  services  like  AMHS.   She  asked  committee                                                               
members  to listen  to  all  the people  who  have  called in  to                                                               
testify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELISSA  CULLUM said  she  moved to  Southeast  Alaska nearly  15                                                               
years ago.   In that time, she explained, she  has relied heavily                                                               
on AMHS  to travel for  work, pleasure, and for  medical reasons.                                                               
She said AMHS connects over  30 villages and outlying communities                                                               
to larger hubs throughout Southeast  Alaska and Southwest Alaska.                                                               
She noted  that 57 to 62  percent of the ferries'  total capacity                                                               
is used  to transport  vehicles, goods, and  services.   She said                                                               
the ferries  serve the  needs of two-thirds  of Alaskans  and are                                                               
part of  the national highway  system, which receives  funding in                                                               
order  to secure  the nation's  economy,  defense, and  mobility.                                                               
She  stated that  the 3,500  miles of  the Alaska  Marine Highway                                                               
accounts  for 62  percent of  the entire  Alaska highway  system.                                                               
However, she said, the funds that  support AMHS are the only ones                                                               
being  considered  for cuts.    She  paraphrased Congressman  Don                                                               
Young by saying the success  of Alaska's economy depends directly                                                               
on  AMHS's ability  to move  people and  product efficiently  and                                                               
safely.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:19:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COLTON  WELCH identified  himself as  a lifelong  Juneau resident                                                               
representing  himself.   He called  it "an  absolute slap  in the                                                               
face to  Coastal Alaska and  to rural communities" that  the AMHS                                                               
budget  is  "on  the  chopping  block"  while  SOA  continues  to                                                               
subsidize  oil companies,  pays out  large PFDs,  and refuses  to                                                               
impose an  income tax.   He noted that  Alaska had an  income tax                                                               
well before the PFD.  He said  SOA has an obligation to serve its                                                               
people, especially its indigenous people.   He shared that he has                                                               
many  family members  in  Kake and  expressed  that, without  the                                                               
ferries,  he would  not have  had the  opportunity to  spend time                                                               
with them.  He continued:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     I feel as  though when you take these  things away from                                                                    
     us that you are  condemning our families, our cultures,                                                                    
     our  ways  of  life,  saying that    ou  are  not  good                                                                    
     enough, because you're not on the road system."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. WELCH  made a call  to representatives  to "stand up  for us"                                                               
and asked  that they  form a veto-proof  majority.   He expressed                                                               
how worried he  is and said the current  budget situation appears                                                               
bleak, which is why so many people have testified passionately.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:20:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANICE LEVY identified herself as  a lifelong Juneau resident and                                                               
said she  opposes cuts  to AMHS.   She said  AMHS is  the highway                                                               
that   connects   Southeast   Alaska   economically,   medically,                                                               
educationally, socially, and  culturally.  She cited  AMHS as the                                                               
reason why  Southeast Alaska has  become a cohesive region.   She                                                               
noted that  AMHS was  not "built overnight"  and warned  that the                                                               
dismantling  of the  system would  not  be easily  fixable.   She                                                               
suggested repealing  Senate Bill 21 [passed  in the Twenty-Eighth                                                               
Alaska State  Legislature], halving  oil production  tax credits,                                                               
or making  it so the credits  only go into effect  when the price                                                               
of  oil drops  to $40  per barrel.   She  quoted a  Juneau Empire                                                               
opinion  piece by  former Senator  Joe  Paskvan: "The  forecasted                                                               
credit each  year through 2028  is never  less than $1  billion a                                                               
year."  She emphasized the $1 billion figure.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:21:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER PETERSON said the ferry has  been a vital lifeline to her                                                               
community in Kodiak and its  surrounding villages.  She described                                                               
how  the  ferries  helped  her   parents  operate  a  rental  car                                                               
business.   She  said AMHS  brings tourists  to Kodiak  daily and                                                               
this keeps the business alive.   She noted that 7,000 people live                                                               
in Kodiak  and an additional  7,000 people reside on  the grounds                                                               
of  the USCG  base there.   She  said the  ferries enable  Kodiak                                                               
residents to travel  to the mainland.  She said  this allows them                                                               
to shop for cars  and school clothes, as well as  to drive to the                                                               
Lower  48.   She  commented  that the  ferry  enables the  annual                                                               
Kodiak Crab Festival, which allows  residents and people from the                                                               
surrounding  villages to  come together.   She  said she  resents                                                               
comments that  she deems  ignorant, such as  "You choose  to live                                                               
there."   She  noted that  she was  born in  Kodiak and  AMHS has                                                               
connected her to her home state all her life.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:22:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT  JACOBSEN  said, "I  don't  think  there  could be  too  much                                                               
testimony in favor of the ferry  system, which is so important to                                                               
coastal communities."   She recounted riding ferries  to move her                                                               
nieces  in  at  University  of   Alaska  Fairbanks  (UAF).    She                                                               
described  paying an  expensive fee  to  ride the  ferry but  not                                                               
having  to pay  to use  the  roads to  Anchorage.   She said  she                                                               
understands and supports that ferries  charge fees for their use.                                                               
She continued, "Not one highway  pays for itself, but all provide                                                               
important travel opportunities and add  to the quality of life in                                                               
this great state."   She noted that, although she  has not driven                                                               
on state  highways for several  years, she recognizes  that other                                                               
Alaskans rely on  them and therefore she supports  all aspects of                                                               
the highway system.  She said  Alaska is known for its residents'                                                               
independence,  but also  for the  way they  support others.   She                                                               
said, "In many aspects  of life, we are all in  this together.  I                                                               
support the land  highways, but certainly the  marine highways as                                                               
well."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:23:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY FORBES echoed what previous  testifiers had said about AMHS.                                                               
She said she  strongly supports toll roads on the  mainland.  She                                                               
noted that it is a part of life  in the Lower 48, where the money                                                               
paid  in tolls  goes toward  the  maintenance and  upkeep of  the                                                               
road.  She  said if the ferries  are going to be  cut, then there                                                               
needs to be tolls on mainland highways as well.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:24:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHAWN  DOCHTERMANN  identified  himself as  41-year  resident  of                                                               
Kodiak.   He said  he supports  fully funding AMHS.   He  said he                                                               
concurs with all prior testimony  except for testimony in support                                                               
of privatizing  AMHS.   He said his  primary concern  after fully                                                               
funding AMHS is a replacement  vessel for M/V Tustumena, which he                                                               
noted was built  in 1963.  He remarked that  M/V Tustumena incurs                                                               
cost overruns every  time it undergoes maintenance.   He said the                                                               
2019 capital  budget appropriated  $29 million as  matching funds                                                               
for  a  $244  million  replacement  ferry,  meaning  the  federal                                                               
government would fund  90 percent of the cost.   He called that a                                                               
great deal.   He noted  that Governor Dunleavy's  proposed budget                                                               
removes  those funds  and  "put[s]  all of  that  in the  highway                                                               
fund,"  which he  said  is  inappropriate.   He  remarked that  a                                                               
proposal  was  supposed  to  be  issued in  January  2019  and  a                                                               
shipbuilder selected  in July 2019.   He asked  committee members                                                               
to "forge  ahead with  getting all the  money needed  and getting                                                               
the [$29 million] back where it's supposed to be."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:25:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT  MOIR, North  Pacific  Seafoods, said  he  is testifying  in                                                               
support of  AMHS.  He relayed  that many goods and  services move                                                               
between  Kodiak and  the mainland,  including frozen  seafood and                                                               
commercial fishing gear.  He stated  that it is important to have                                                               
an  affordable way  for instate  commerce to  function.   He said                                                               
AMHS is  one of the  most affordable modes of  transportation for                                                               
the Kodiak  community.  He  said the ferries also  transport crew                                                               
members,  supplies,  vehicles,  and  coastal  community  athletic                                                               
teams.  He encouraged committee members to support AMHS.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:26:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSH COUGHRAN,  Superintendent, Skagway School District,  said he                                                               
is accompanied  by several high  school students and  the student                                                               
government  advisor.   He  stated  that  they have  inspired  his                                                               
comments.    He  said  AMHS   represents  the  lifeblood  of  the                                                               
community, especially  as relates  to the  school.   He commented                                                               
that  it  is difficult  to  quantify  just  how much  the  school                                                               
district  depends on  ferry  service  in Skagway.    He said  the                                                               
cessation of  service would fundamentally change  the way Skagway                                                               
School  operates   and  would  ultimately  result   in  Skagway's                                                               
children  receiving  a  less robust  educational  experience  and                                                               
would  threaten  the  wellbeing  of some  of  the  school's  most                                                               
vulnerable students.   He noted  that the district does  not have                                                               
the  capacity  to  employ  special   service  providers  such  as                                                               
physical  therapists,   occupational  therapists,  psychologists,                                                               
speech pathologists, vision and  hearing screening providers, and                                                               
people authorized  to provide  immunizations.   He said  he could                                                               
speak  at length  about the  vital medical  services provided  by                                                               
AMHS  to communities  like Skagway  that  do not  have a  medical                                                               
doctor or  surgical facilities.   He said the ferry  is important                                                               
to Skagway's year-round economy and  helps the district train its                                                               
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:28:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAIGE ROSS  introduced herself  in English and  in Tlingit.   She                                                               
said she  is [indisc.] years  old.   She identified herself  as a                                                               
student of Kake  City School District.  She said  Kake has access                                                               
to  air travel  but noted  that the  weather is  often inclement.                                                               
She shared that she has  severe food allergies which require many                                                               
shots.  She said  that this makes it harder for  her to travel on                                                               
planes than  on ferries.   She said she  must travel by  ferry to                                                               
get  her food.    She shared  that  she would  be  a junior  high                                                               
basketball player  in the fall,  and that  it would be  safer for                                                               
her to  travel by ferry  than by plane.   She said  that, without                                                               
ferries, the lives of people in  Kake will be more difficult than                                                               
they are  now.  She  asked the committee  members to not  cut the                                                               
ferry.  She thanked the committee in English and in Tlingit.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:29:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JACKIE  MULLER   said  he   is  opposed  to   cuts  to   and  the                                                               
privatization  of AMHS.    He  said it  is  "a  lifeline for  the                                                               
villages."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:29:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  NELSON   identified  himself   as  a  resident   of  Haines                                                               
representing  himself.   He  noted  that  a person  named  Tracey                                                               
Harmon  had  to  leave  before  she was  able  to  testify.    He                                                               
requested  that AMHS  and other  essential public  transportation                                                               
systems not  be shut down.   He said Alaska has  the capital, the                                                               
people,  and the  resources  to operate  AMHS  and all  essential                                                               
public  services.   He  said  what  Alaska  does  not have  is  a                                                               
management  strategy that  uses available  resources to  maintain                                                               
essential  public services  and distribute  a PFD.   He  remarked                                                               
that there  are companies  and nations  with far  fewer resources                                                               
than Alaska that are using  proper resource management to service                                                               
the people  who own those  resources.   He said he  would contact                                                               
every legislator with the outline for how this is being done.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:31:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TONY TENGS  identified himself  as a retired  ferry worker  and a                                                               
former bartender.   He said that, in order to  pay expenses, AMHS                                                               
has increased fares to the point  where many people decide not to                                                               
travel with  it.  He said  another big problem is  that those who                                                               
can  afford  the  trip  do  not  want to  ride  the  ferry.    He                                                               
attributed  this   to  the  elimination  of   basic  elements  of                                                               
hospitality,  such  as onboard  bars.    He remarked,  "The  AMHS                                                               
representative lied  to the legislature  in saying that  not even                                                               
one route  was profitable with the  bar position."  He  said that                                                               
becomes irrelevant when one considers  loss of gross revenue from                                                               
travelers not wanting to sail with  AMHS due to the lack of basic                                                               
hospitality during  what can be  a long  and stressful trip.   He                                                               
recalled  how AMHS  moved people  south  in the  days after  [the                                                               
terrorist  attacks of  September 11,  2001] when  they could  not                                                               
fly.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:32:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PENELOPE OSWALT identified  herself as a resident  of Cordova and                                                               
said  she represents  herself  and  her husband.    She said  she                                                               
believes SOA needs to fund  AMHS as a transportation corridor for                                                               
rural  Alaskans, as  it was  originally intended.   She  remarked                                                               
that  many have  worked for  several years  on a  possible reform                                                               
plan  to keep  AMHS alive  and  sustainable.   She said  Governor                                                               
Dunleavy's proposed budget demonstrates that  he means to gut any                                                               
possible  system.   She  said the  reasons  why Alaska's  coastal                                                               
communities  need  ferries have  already  been  stated [by  other                                                               
testifiers].  She  said she wants legislators to  help keep rural                                                               
communities economically  viable.  She urged  legislators to roll                                                               
back credits  to oil companies  and charge what other  oil states                                                               
charge to harvest resources.   She requested the institution of a                                                               
state education  and income tax  to ensure all users  of Alaska's                                                               
systems pay their fair share.   She asked that the Permanent Fund                                                               
[Dividend] be reduced  to what it was originally  intended to be,                                                               
which she  clarified is "a  bonus, not something to  support your                                                               
families on."   She continued,  "Please take the politics  out of                                                               
our transportation  system" and asked  that AMHS be funded.   She                                                               
concluded by  saying Alaska  is so much  more than  Anchorage and                                                               
Fairbanks.  She said, "We do believe in ferries."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:33:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BECKY CHAPEK echoed the testimony of  Ms. Oswalt.  She said it is                                                               
tedious to have  to grovel about the ferry year  after year.  She                                                               
called  AMHS  an essential  service  that  "we don't  necessarily                                                               
deserve, but that  we have, and we  need to keep."   She said the                                                               
issue  of AMHS  is a  political football.   She  stated that  the                                                               
legislature is a team without  a coach.  Continuing the metaphor,                                                               
she said the quarterback gets selected  by popular vote, so he or                                                               
she is  not always the  best person to  "figure out what  to do."                                                               
She said there does not appear  to be a long-term plan and opined                                                               
that  it  is  not a  very  good  way  to  run a  business.    She                                                               
characterized the  AMHS issue as "political  terrorism" and spoke                                                               
of more to  come with "the budget shortfall," which  she said was                                                               
the reason why the Permanent Fund was founded.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:34:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBRA  ADAMS identified  herself as  a 40-plus  year resident  of                                                               
Cordova.   She  expressed disappointment  that not  all committee                                                               
members  are present,  noting that  AMHS is  a crucial  issue for                                                               
many communities.   She said  the entire committee needs  to hear                                                               
this testimony.   She took issue  with the assertion that  SOA is                                                               
"subsidizing the ferry system."   She clarified that AMHS is "our                                                               
road" and  roads are  not subsidized, they  are maintained.   She                                                               
said  AMHS is  important to  fishing families  like hers  because                                                               
they use it  to acquire thousands of dollars'  worth of equipment                                                               
from  Anchorage.    She  said  the  ferry  also  carries  fishing                                                               
families' product  to Anchorage.   She said  she is a  teacher of                                                               
20-plus years and said the ferry  is the most economical means of                                                               
travel for Cordova residents.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:36:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY DAHLE  said a comprehensive  AMHS is  vital to Alaska.   She                                                               
commented that most  of the fleet was built prior  to the [Trans-                                                               
Alaska  Pipeline System].   She  noted that  numerous independent                                                               
surveys  have shown  that Alaska's  Interior benefits  from AMHS.                                                               
For every dollar spend on  AMHS, she explained, $2.30 is returned                                                               
to Alaska's  economy.  She said  the impact of the  proposed cuts                                                               
would be  devastating to  Alaska's economy.   She  commented that                                                               
reducing AMHS's budget by $96  million would wipe out almost $221                                                               
million of economic  activity within Alaska.   She expressed that                                                               
she does  not believe  privatizing the system  is the  answer, as                                                               
SOA would lose control over  vital infrastructure.  She concluded                                                               
by   saying  it   is  SOA's   responsibility  to   provide  solid                                                               
infrastructure.   She  said  supporting  a solid,  government-run                                                               
AMHS is supporting the greater Alaska economy.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:37:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC  WALLEN   identified  himself  as  a   40-year  resident  of                                                               
Ketchikan.   He  said  he  hopes the  committee  members are  all                                                               
familiar with  the 2016 McDowell  Group study that  showed AMHS's                                                               
economic  impact far  exceeds its  costs.   She  remarked that  a                                                               
highway is  the lifeblood of an  economy.  "When you  shut down a                                                               
highway," he  said, "you kill  commerce."  He opined  that Alaska                                                               
cannot  afford  that.   He  said  the  benefits provided  by  the                                                               
ferries  are countless  and understated.   He  said they  provide                                                               
access to  other communities, to  shopping opportunities,  and to                                                               
healthcare.   He  relayed  that, during  the  previous week,  M/V                                                               
Malaspina transported  over 400 Southeast Alaska  students to and                                                               
from Sitka.   He said it is completely irresponsible  to not plan                                                               
to  fund AMHS.   He  commented that  the damage  to ridership  is                                                               
probably already  happening as reservations  are not  being taken                                                               
beyond  October 1.    He  said this  undermines  trust in  AMHS's                                                               
reliability.   He  said  it  also appears  to  be purposeful  and                                                               
malicious  mismanagement to  disregard  the  2016 McDowell  Group                                                               
study in  order to spend  $60-90,000 to get another  study hoping                                                               
to get a more  desirable answer.  He said he would  like to see a                                                               
commitment  to full  funding of  AMHS  for the  residents of  and                                                               
visitors to Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:38:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GLENN WADE  said he  has "lived  here" since  the mid-1970s.   He                                                               
said  he is  here  to add  strength  to the  voice  to keep  AMHS                                                               
running.   He  recognized  "the abundance  of  reasons" why  AMHS                                                               
should keep running  and expressed his shock  that "this process"                                                               
has to exist.   He said Governor  Dunleavy's administration needs                                                               
to hear  these reasons.   He  questioned whether  it is  legal to                                                               
remove  infrastructure and  public safety  measures for  only one                                                               
segment of  the state.   He noted that  this would not  treat all                                                               
citizens  equally  as  it  would   penalize  10  percent  of  the                                                               
population.   He  suggested that  all Alaska  highways should  be                                                               
treated equally in order to keep AMHS going.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:39:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRIS BENSON  identified herself as  a 20-year resident  of Juneau                                                               
testifying on  behalf of herself.   She said the proposed  cut to                                                               
AMHS that caused the cessation  of winter service is no different                                                               
than  a  cut  to  the   Department  of  Transportation  &  Public                                                               
Facilities  (DOTPF) maintenance  budget  that might  cause it  to                                                               
close the Parks Highway for the  winter to save money on plowing.                                                               
She agreed that this is an  equity issue.  She suggested that the                                                               
discussion  about cuts  needs to  be refocused  on revenue.   She                                                               
opined that residents  do not need a big PFD  and mused that they                                                               
did not  previously receive a big  PFD.  She said  she would much                                                               
rather have state  services and the continued  existence of AMHS.                                                               
She stated that she wants to  see the implementation of an income                                                               
tax as well as equitable taxation of oil companies.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:40:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAYNE  ANDREEN  identified  herself  as  a  25-year  resident  of                                                               
Douglas  and a  previous resident  of Homer.   She  said she  has                                                               
ridden ferries throughout her 40  years.  She recalled times when                                                               
the  ferries allowed  her to  travel to  Juneau when  flights had                                                               
been canceled.   She  said AMHS  is a  delightful way  to travel.                                                               
She echoed  previous reasons for  continued ferry services.   She                                                               
shared  an  anecdote  of  a friend  who  required  emergency  eye                                                               
surgery in Seattle.   The friend had an air  bubble injected into                                                               
his eye which precluded him from  flying for six weeks.  She said                                                               
that once  he was released, her  friend thought he would  be able                                                               
to  take  the ferry  out  of  Bellingham, but  unfortunately  M/V                                                               
Columbia was out  of service at the time.   She explained that he                                                               
was reduced  to buying a  cruise ship passage  to get home.   She                                                               
said  she supports  an  income  tax and  the  elimination of  oil                                                               
company subsidies.   "When  we have  an unexpected  expense," she                                                               
said, "we find the revenue to cover it."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:41:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB SYLVESTER said  he supports full funding  for AMHS, including                                                               
upkeep that has been recently lacking.   He requested a return to                                                               
a  fuller schedule.   He  said  he is  willing to  pay through  a                                                               
broad-based graduated  tax that  includes all  workers, including                                                               
non-residents.   He  stated that  he  has been  riding the  ferry                                                               
since the  1970s and called it  "an enjoyable way to  get around,                                                               
and a necessary one."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STAN HJORT  said he is  representing himself as well  as everyone                                                               
who benefits  from the ferries.   He stated, "Governor  Bill Egan                                                               
figured that when  the ferries were started,  we were money-ahead                                                               
because we didn't  have to build the roads."   He said most roads                                                               
in  the Railbelt  region  were built  by  the federal  government                                                               
before  or  during World  War  II.    He  said residents  of  the                                                               
Railbelt region are using roads for  which they never had to pay.                                                               
He  said  that  includes  the  Alaska  Railroad.    He  remarked,                                                               
"Raising  prices when  revenues are  down is  absolutely stupid."                                                               
He requested a  "driver rides free with vehicles"  option for the                                                               
ferry, especially  during the winter.   He  said this would  be a                                                               
trade stimulator.   He  suggested the  reopening of  onboard bars                                                               
and gift  shops.  He  explained that it  is obvious that  a well-                                                               
managed bar will add revenue.   He said a large portion of summer                                                               
ridership  travels to  the Interior.   He  added that  the dollar                                                               
amount associated with those travelers surprised even him.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:43:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GAYLE  NICHOLSON TRIVETTE  identified  herself as  a resident  of                                                               
Juneau.  She  said she agrees with previous  testimony in support                                                               
of  AMHS.    She  explained  that she  was  born  and  raised  in                                                               
Petersburg and  has traveled by  ferry since "they  first steamed                                                               
up the  Narrows" when  she was 15  years old.   She said  she has                                                               
long-relied on  the ferries for  commuting, to visit  her family,                                                               
and  to help  support  her  90-year-old mother  so  that she  can                                                               
continue to  live independently in  her own home.   She described                                                               
it as  painful to watch  the ferries  be neglected over  the last                                                               
several  years.   She  said they  used  to be  full  of not  just                                                               
locals,  but also  tourists who  would  visit small  communities.                                                               
She said  the ferries were previously  well-marketed and featured                                                               
[more] incentives for  people to travel on them.   She encouraged                                                               
committee members to look at different types of revenue.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:44:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN KISER identified  himself as a resident  of Southeast Alaska                                                               
presently in Cordova.  He said  he is also in favor of preserving                                                               
AMHS funding.  He noted that,  due to present job uncertainty and                                                               
an  upcoming Washington  State Ferries  (WSF) retirement  bubble,                                                               
"we're  about  to  lose  several  trained  ferry  workers."    He                                                               
suggested  moving quickly  to avoid  this.   He  stated that  the                                                               
military does  not eliminate poorly  performing units,  rather it                                                               
gets   rids  of   the  leadership.     He   suggested  that   the                                                               
administration  needs  to  "study  the  issue"  and  replace  bad                                                               
management making bad decisions.  He  said he is also in favor of                                                               
a state  tax and reducing  the PFD before reducing  AMHS funding.                                                               
He  continued, "That  gives us  enough time  to elect  people who                                                               
will do the right thing."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL MICKELSON  identified himself  as a lifelong  resident of                                                               
Cordova testifying  in support of  AMHS on behalf of  himself and                                                               
his business.   He said  he strongly  opposes major cuts  to AMHS                                                               
while  there are  no commensurate  cuts to  the land-based  state                                                               
highway system.   He  said he  supports an oil  tax and  would be                                                               
happy to  pay an income  tax or stop  receiving a PFD  to support                                                               
AMHS and  other essential state  services.  He stated  that there                                                               
are plenty  of worldwide models of  ferry systems that work.   He                                                               
concluded, "Let's work to make ours better."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:46:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAY  GUYMON   identified  herself   as  a  50-year   resident  of                                                               
Ketchikan.  She said she has  never seen a highway system pay for                                                               
itself.  She continued, "How would  we expect our ferry system to                                                               
pay for itself?"  She opined  that AMHS is very badly managed and                                                               
suggested "they should really look at that."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:46:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN WALSH  said she is  here to  join the hundreds  of citizens                                                               
who have spoken  out against cuts to AMHS.   She stated that when                                                               
Governor  Dunleavy  campaigned  in  Southeast  Alaska,  he  spoke                                                               
passionately about  returning the state to  more prosperous times                                                               
like when he arrived in 1983.   She commented that the governor's                                                               
proposed  budget cuts  would return  Alaska  back to  territorial                                                               
times.   She  said the  state's fiscal  dilemma should  be shared                                                               
equitably through  a progressive income  tax or a  [PFD] returned                                                               
to  the 1983  figure  of $383.   She  opined  that oil  companies                                                               
should also  pay their fair share.   She requested that  the 2016                                                               
McDowell Group  study on  the economic impacts  of AMHS  be used.                                                               
She  said  if  a  new  study is  to  be  commissioned,  then  the                                                               
suggestions  of  ferry  workers should  be  considered,  as  they                                                               
recognize the  system's problems and can  offer viable solutions.                                                               
She drew  a contrast between ferry  workers and those who  do not                                                               
have "the  vaguest idea of  the integral part this  highway plays                                                               
as the lifeline for Alaska citizens                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:47:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  SALLEE  identified  himself   as  a  lifelong  resident  of                                                               
Ketchikan.    He  said  he  has used  the  ferries  since  AMHS's                                                               
inception and  rode the  ferry to travel  to Fairbanks  to attend                                                               
UAF  in  the mid-1960s.    He  listed additional  communities  in                                                               
Southeast Alaska  and beyond to  which he has traveled  via AMHS.                                                               
He compared  AMHS to land highways  and noted that AMHS  does not                                                               
require ditches to  be dug, roads to be plowed,  or avalanches to                                                               
be cleared.   He said  he has used AMHS  as a dive  fisherman for                                                               
boat transportation; he noted that  he knows other divers who use                                                               
ferries to travel back and forth  to the fisheries.  He explained                                                               
that this generally occurs between October and December.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:49:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRINA ARNOLD,  Regional Director, Juneau  Office, Inlandboatmen's                                                               
Union of the Pacific, said  she represents 400 crewmembers on the                                                               
vessels at  this time.   She stated  that eliminating  AMHS would                                                               
eliminate 400 jobs from "our communities."   She said there is an                                                               
understanding that  the ferries are  essential.  She said  to cut                                                               
the ferries  would cut off Alaskans  from the rest of  the state.                                                               
She mentioned  that she was  born and raised  in Alaska and  is a                                                               
third  generation AMHS  employee.   She said,  "This saddens  me;                                                               
this is  very emotional  for me.   This was part  of my  life, my                                                               
childhood, and  many of us  in Southeast Alaska and  the Aleutian                                                               
Chains are very affected by this.   Please fund the Alaska Marine                                                               
Highway."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:50:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  FOSTER  identified  himself   as  a  30-year  resident  of                                                               
Southeast Alaska  and a current resident  of Haines.  He  said he                                                               
represents the voice of reason.   He stated that privatizing AMHS                                                               
is  a  mistake.    He  said  AMHS is  a  highway  and  should  be                                                               
administered  as such.   He  referenced privatization  efforts in                                                               
Canada that  he said did  not work.   He added, "They  also tried                                                               
fast ferries if you don't remember.   Didn't work."  He commented                                                               
on the sizable  salaries paid to Canadian ferry CEOs.   He stated                                                               
that Canada  now has  less service  and higher  fares.   He added                                                               
that workers  took a 30  percent cut in  wages and benefits.   He                                                               
said  thousands  of  Canadians have  signed  petitions  to  bring                                                               
administration back  under government control.   He asked, "Would                                                               
you  privatize Egan  Drive,  set up  a toll  booth,  and let  the                                                               
profiteers  reap  the   profits?"    He  said,   "We  don't  need                                                               
carpetbaggers running  the ferries,  taking profits  at Alaskans'                                                               
cost and livelihoods, and risking  our lives without access."  He                                                               
restated that  the Canada example  shows that  privatization does                                                               
not work.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF KASPER, Southeast Regional  Manager, Alaska Public Employees                                                               
Association, said the Alaska  Public Employees Association (APEA)                                                               
supports   year-round  ferry   service   fully   funded  to   all                                                               
communities  that are  currently  served.   He  commented on  the                                                               
"extraordinary and  unprecedented amount  of public  testimony on                                                               
this matter"  and said,  "to me,  it seems  like the  people have                                                               
spoken."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:52:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUSTIN PARISH said  it is strange that  tremendous uncertainty is                                                               
being  thrust  upon  the  communities  of  Coastal  Alaska.    He                                                               
referenced  his time  as a  legislator  and member  of the  House                                                               
Resources  Standing Committee,  noting  that he  often heard  how                                                               
unfair it is  to cause uncertainty by discussing the  rate of the                                                               
subsidies that SOA provides to the  oil industry.  He stated that                                                               
Governor  Dunleavy's  administration  is putting  communities  in                                                               
fear of  their existences and  putting families in fear  of their                                                               
lives.   He  said  some  families need  to  travel regularly  for                                                               
medical reasons and  there is not another  economical or reliable                                                               
means  of  transport  available  to  them.   He  added  that  the                                                               
administration is  putting children in  fear of their  futures by                                                               
jeopardizing a fundamental  part of their educations.   He called                                                               
it "profoundly  unjust.    He asked committee  members to  pass a                                                               
veto-proof budget.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:54:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  EGOLF identified  himself as  a  ski shop  and tour  company                                                               
owner in  Haines.   He agreed with  previous testifiers  who said                                                               
reduced scheduling  caused reduced ridership.   He said  that his                                                               
store benefited for 15 years  from promotion of the Golden Circle                                                               
Route between Whitehorse, Haines, and  Skagway.  He discussed the                                                               
steady  stream   of  summer  motorhome   campers  to   the  three                                                               
communities  until  M/V  LeConte  was  put on  that  route.    He                                                               
explained that  M/V LeConte is  "tiny" and could  not accommodate                                                               
the motorhomes, so "that revenue was  lost."  He said the Haines-                                                               
Skagway-Juneau ferry route used to make  money.  He noted that no                                                               
roads in  Alaska make money.   He asked, "Where have  our federal                                                               
ferry funds gone?"  He said  there has been a maritime culture in                                                               
Coastal Alaska for thousands of years.   He said, "We live in one                                                               
of  the safest,  most efficient,  environmentally friendly,  God-                                                               
given transportation  corridors on  the planet."   He  said other                                                               
states  like  Washington have  figured  out  how to  move  people                                                               
reliably  using federal  funds on  ferries.   He asked,  "Why not                                                               
Alaska?"  He stated that  any assertion that well-managed ferries                                                               
are more expensive than roads lacks credibility.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:55:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK  PHILPOTT identified  himself as  a lifelong  resident of                                                               
Haines  and  a strong  supporter  of  AMHS.   He  commented  that                                                               
between 1969 and 1971 the  United States Forest Service conducted                                                               
a  complete survey  between Ketchikan  and Haines  to plan  for a                                                               
combined  road  and ferry  system  through  the Tongass  National                                                               
Forest.  He suggested the maps  from that survey need to be found                                                               
and examined.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:56:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAN  WRENTMORE,  President,   Skagway  Marine  Access  Commission                                                               
(SMAC),  described SMAC  as a  nonprofit corporation  made up  of                                                               
small businesspeople and marine professionals.   She said she has                                                               
owned and  operated numerous businesses  in the  tourism industry                                                               
over the past 40 years.   She called Governor Dunleavy's proposed                                                               
cuts  to AMHS  "a death  sentence for  small businesses  in rural                                                               
Alaska."   She said hundreds  of businesses would close  if ferry                                                               
service were  discontinued.  She  said the economic  impact would                                                               
be felt by  communities as far as north  as Anchorage, Fairbanks,                                                               
and beyond.   She  said visitors  to Alaska  who arrive  by ferry                                                               
spend  money in  coffee shops,  restaurants, bed  and breakfasts,                                                               
recreational vehicle  (RV) parks,  and gift  shops all  along the                                                               
highway  system.    She  stressed  that  significant  damage  has                                                               
already been  done by  shutting down  reservations for  the fall.                                                               
She asked  for full  funding for AMHS  and thanked  the committee                                                               
for hearing and acknowledging extensive testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:58:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SETH HOWARD identified himself as a  Juneau resident.  He said he                                                               
has in  front of him  DOTPF's informal request for  proposals for                                                               
the AMHS economic reshaping consultant  job.  He pointed out that                                                               
the final revision  on the request was made on  February 3, 2019,                                                               
two weeks before the governor  announced his proposed budget.  He                                                               
said  he would  read two  of the  options encouraged  by Governor                                                               
Dunleavy's administration.  He read:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "Number  one:  Reshape  the entire  AMHS  operation  by                                                                    
     selling  or  giving  all vessels  and  terminals  to  a                                                                    
     private  entity  to  run   whatever  service  they  can                                                                    
     justify economically."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOWARD quipped, "Great plan.  He continued:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "Number   nine:  Implement   further  fare   increases,                                                                    
     including across-the-board increases  on more expensive                                                                    
     runs, demand pricing for  high-demand period or events,                                                                    
     demand  pricing based  on percent  of remaining  vessel                                                                    
     capacity.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOWARD  asked how this  plan would generate  revenue for                                                                    
the state,  how it is  in the  best interest of  the public,                                                                    
and  when SOA  is going  to "stop  stepping over  dollars to                                                                    
pick up dimes."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT PALKOVIC  said she worked  26-plus years in  Southeast Alaska                                                               
and is currently  looking for a job in Southcentral  Alaska.  She                                                               
said  most of  Alaska's population  lives on  or near  the coast.                                                               
She  said AMHS  ferries are  a  form of  transportation that  can                                                               
access most of  the state's population.  She added  that AMHS has                                                               
the flexibility to respond to  emergencies and natural disasters.                                                               
She said that is  why M/V Kennicott was built in  the way it was.                                                               
She  noted that,  during  the summer,  AMHS is  the  one form  of                                                               
surface  transportation that  allows  people to  travel from  one                                                               
part  of  the state  to  another  without going  through  another                                                               
country.   She added  that it  is also  one of  the two  forms of                                                               
surface  transportation that  connects  Alaska to  the Lower  48.                                                               
She noted  that the  other form of  transportation is  a two-lane                                                               
road that goes  through a foreign country.  She  said she learned                                                               
as  a retail  store  order  that one  needs  a  critical mass  of                                                               
inventory to bring  in customers.  She stated that  AMHS needs to                                                               
bring back its "critical mass of services."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:00:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRED  STURMAN said  he just  got off  the ferry  in Haines  after                                                               
visiting Seattle.  He noted that  it is cheaper for him to drive,                                                               
but riding  the ferry is "one  of those deals that  you've always                                                               
wanted to do, so  I did it."  He reported seeing  "quite a bit of                                                               
dead wood" on  the ferry.  He argued that  if AMHS receives cuts,                                                               
there should  be similar cuts on  the Kenai Peninsula    where he                                                               
resides    and to other departments  and areas of the  state.  He                                                               
said the  state needs everyone to  take a big cut  because "we're                                                               
$1  billion in  debt."   He said  that is  $2,000 for  every man,                                                               
woman, and child  in Alaska.  He advocated for  major cuts to all                                                               
areas of the state budget.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:01:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE   MCCARTHY   identified   himself  as   a   Homer   resident                                                               
representing himself  and his  wife.  He  said they  represent 85                                                               
years as  Alaska residents.   He noted that  he has been  a ferry                                                               
rider  since he  moved to  Kodiak in  1989 and  that he  used the                                                               
ferry to move  to Homer in 1997.  He  spoke about visiting Valdez                                                               
and Cordova  via the ferry  system.  He  said he has  never heard                                                               
anything as  crazy as privatizing  AMHS.   He stated it  would be                                                               
too  expensive  to  even consider  and  suggested  that  "whoever                                                               
brought this  idea forward  needs a medical  exam."   He compared                                                               
the idea  to Project  Chariot, which  was a  plan to  use nuclear                                                               
explosives to construct an artificial  harbor at Cape Thompson on                                                               
the North Slope.  He said the  plan to privatize AMHS needs to be                                                               
terminated  like Project  Chariot was.   He  asked for  continued                                                               
support and funding of AMHS.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
POPPY BENSON identified herself as  a longtime resident of Homer.                                                               
She shared that she has  extensive experience with AMHS and noted                                                               
that she established  the naturalist program on  M/V Tustumena 30                                                               
years ago.   She noted that  the naturalist program is  among the                                                               
amenities  that has  been "kicked  off  the ship"  over the  past                                                               
eight years.  She said she  has experience with ferries in Prince                                                               
William  Sound  and  Southeast   Alaska.    She  echoed  previous                                                               
speakers who characterized AMHS as  a highway for people who live                                                               
in coastal  villages.  She said  AMHS should be treated  the same                                                               
as any  other highway.  She  stated that she does  not understand                                                               
why SOA  expects the highway to  make money.  She  recommended an                                                               
evaluation of  how AMHS  is managed and  how decisions  are made.                                                               
She acknowledged  that transportation  patterns change  over time                                                               
and more  people fly than  did when  AMHS was established  in the                                                               
1960s.    She shared  that  she  looks  forward to  looking  into                                                               
studies mentioned by previous speakers.   She concluded by saying                                                               
she fully supports maintaining the ferry system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:04:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BECKY WORKMAN identified herself as  a lifelong resident of Sitka                                                               
testifying for  herself.  She  said she  agrees with most  of the                                                               
points raised  by previous  speakers.  She  stated that  she does                                                               
not support  a PFD tax,  a state  income tax, or  privatizing the                                                               
ferry.  She said there are other  ways to get money.  She stated,                                                               
"If they're  going to shut down  our road system from  October to                                                               
June, they  need to shut  down all  road systems from  October to                                                               
June."  She said then maybe  residents of the Interior would know                                                               
what  it feels  like to  have "your  freedom on  the line."   She                                                               
thanked the committee and stated  that she would submit a written                                                               
statement as well.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:05:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAN TROJAN, from Craig, Alaska,  noted that Mary Ellen Skinna, an                                                               
elder, had to  leave before she was able to  testify.  Ms. Trojan                                                               
relayed  that  Ms.  Skinna  wanted  to  say  that  the  ferry  is                                                               
extremely important to Prince of  Wales Island and that she would                                                               
support a  state tax.   Ms. Trojan  said she is  representing the                                                               
people and  veterans of Prince of  Wales Island.  She  said there                                                               
are  5,000 people  on  the island  who depend  on  the ferry  for                                                               
things like  cancer treatment and  orthopedic consult.   She said                                                               
the ferry  is the lifeblood  of her  community even more  so than                                                               
for Ketchikan, which  is located "on the next island  over."  She                                                               
identified herself  as a  cancer survivor and  said cuts  to AMHS                                                               
would  impact the  health of  people on  Prince of  Wales Island.                                                               
She said the ferry is necessary  for someone who is going to have                                                               
to travel  for 12 weeks  to receive chemotherapy treatment.   She                                                               
reiterated that Prince of Wales needs the ferry.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  asked Ms.  Trojan to identify  the people  in Craig                                                               
who had signed up to testify but had to leave.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. TROJAN named  Mary Ellen Skinna and Gregory  Shapely, who she                                                               
identified as  elders.   She said  Irving Langmaid  had to  go to                                                               
work.   She also confirmed  that Martin Dale had  previously been                                                               
present but had to leave.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:07:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LACY FOSMORE identified  herself as a ferry worker.   She said it                                                               
is  abundantly  clear  from the  bountiful  testimony  that  AMHS                                                               
should continue  to be  funded.   She added  that AMHS  should be                                                               
funded just  like any other highway  in the state.   She said she                                                               
worked  on the  Dalton Highway  when she  first moved  to Alaska.                                                               
She  noted that  there  are  far fewer  residents  living on  the                                                               
Dalton Highway  than there are  along the Alaska  Marine Highway.                                                               
She asked committee members to  consider that and to keep funding                                                               
AMHS.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:08:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH ROARK  identified herself as  an AMHS employee.   She asked                                                               
if any of the committee members  has been on the ferry when there                                                               
has been an  elder returning to Angoon  to be laid to  rest.  She                                                               
said she has and shared that  it was a very emotional experience.                                                               
She  described  the   drumming  and  singing,  as   well  as  the                                                               
participation of  the entire village.   She said if  the proposed                                                               
budget  cuts  go through,  that  experience  and event  would  no                                                               
longer happen.   She opined  that the  proposed cuts to  AMHS are                                                               
disrespectful   and  unnecessary.     She   suggested  that   the                                                               
legislature take  her PFD,  implement an  income tax,  modify the                                                               
oil tax credit system, and invest in the future.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:09:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE NIEMI  said she is  representing herself,  her husband,                                                               
her two grown  daughters, her son-in-law, and her  grandson.  She                                                               
stated that AMHS is vital to  help maintain her family ties.  She                                                               
shared with committee  members a photo of  her grandson, Malcolm,                                                               
riding  the ferry  on  his way  home from  Hoonah,  where he  was                                                               
visiting relatives.  She explained that  her husband had to go to                                                               
Seattle  for surgery  several months  prior and  was told  not to                                                               
return  by  plane. She  compared  this  situation to  a  scenario                                                               
described by  an earlier testifier.   She noted that she  and her                                                               
husband  had  already  arranged  to  ride  the  ferry  home  from                                                               
Bellingham.   She thanked  AMHS for getting  her and  her husband                                                               
home.   She opined  that a government  that provides  services to                                                               
its citizens  is not too  big.   She argued that  providing state                                                               
subsidies  to  [private   for-profit]  businesses  while  leaving                                                               
citizens without services is "not the right thing to do."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:10:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN MCCARTHY identified  himself as a retired  deck officer who                                                               
worked for  AMHS for 32 years.   He said  he has been to  all the                                                               
villages mentioned  by previous  testifiers.   He shared  that he                                                               
spent half  his time in  Southeast Alaska  and the other  half in                                                               
Southwest  Alaska.    He  spoke   to  what  AMHS  provides  those                                                               
communities and what  AMHS gets out of them.   He said AMHS keeps                                                               
people  together  and  links families.    He  shared  experiences                                                               
during which he  saw joy, love, and sadness.   He echoed what Ms.                                                               
Roark  had  previously  said  about   the  beauty  of  a  funeral                                                               
ceremony.    He  said  he  wants his  family  to  have  the  same                                                               
opportunities he  had.  He  argued that it  would not be  fair to                                                               
deprive future  generations of those  opportunities.  He  said he                                                               
is willing to take a smaller PFD.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:12:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NOLA LAMKEN remarked as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Listen to  the cries from  Auk   Kwaan ancestors.   The                                                                    
     governor's  careless  suggestion strands  and  abandons                                                                    
     elders and  people with  disabilities who  cannot climb                                                                    
     the 3-foot steps on many  of the small planes even when                                                                    
     they can fly.   Already, fares have  been raised beyond                                                                    
     reason causing pain and suffering.   State ferries were                                                                    
     first   formed  because   private  ownership   was  not                                                                    
     sustainable.    Listeners  here  laughed  at  the  idea                                                                    
     proposed of  putting tolls  on Anchorage  and Fairbanks                                                                    
     highways;   unbearable   ferry   toll   increases   and                                                                    
     unreliable eradicate  schedules are just  as ludicrous.                                                                    
     I  support  the  Southeast Conference  and  the  Marine                                                                    
     Access Commission,  not the millions wasted  on private                                                                    
     consultants  - many  who had  never  stepped on  Alaska                                                                    
     ferries -  and their clueless  studies.  Listen  to the                                                                    
     experienced wisdom  and knowledge  earned by  the ferry                                                                    
     workers and  concerned citizens.   Please  restore full                                                                    
     ferry     funding,     quality,    reliability,     and                                                                    
     affordability.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:13:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB CRUISE said  that, while he appreciates  the committee taking                                                               
testimony on AMHS, he is astonished  there is even a need for the                                                               
public  to come  before  legislators in  support  of "this  vital                                                               
piece of infrastructure."   He suggested that  the economists and                                                               
consultants  hired by  Governor  Dunleavy to  craft his  proposed                                                               
budget "must  have skipped Econ  101, because in that  class they                                                               
would have  learned that a  vital, solid infrastructure  is vital                                                               
and  needed to  support  our  economy."   He  expressed that  the                                                               
fabric of  coastal communities  is woven  into the  Alaska Marine                                                               
Highway.   He said AMHS  enables members of those  communities to                                                               
travel, to enjoy  each other's company, and to  come together for                                                               
events  like  the  Klondike  Road [Relay]  and  the  Alaska  Folk                                                               
Festival.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:15:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELLIE CULLUM  said residents  of Angoon gets  their food  via the                                                               
ferry  and SOA  cannot  take  that from  them.    She said  those                                                               
residents would have to move  from their hometown.  She explained                                                               
that she has family  in Angoon.  She said they  should be able to                                                               
live where they want, and they want to live in Angoon.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:16:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANN FOSTER DOMBKOWSKI  said she and her father were  both born in                                                               
Juneau.  She  said her father was born to  a Klondike gold miner.                                                               
She  recalled seeing  the ferries  first arrive  when she  was in                                                               
fourth  grade.   She called  Juneau a  working-class economy  and                                                               
said she hopes that can continue.   She asked to be taxed so that                                                               
citizens  can  have services.    She  went  over the  history  of                                                               
ferries going  back to the 1950s.   She opined that  there is "no                                                               
reason for us to not have  these ferries."  She concluded, "We're                                                               
working  class people;  we  can pay  taxes.   We've  done it  for                                                               
decades."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:17:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  LEE echoed  the  sentiments of  previous  testifiers.   He                                                               
recalled  riding ferries  as  far back  as when  he  was in  high                                                               
school in the 1960s.  He  expressed that the catamarans that have                                                               
been proposed as  ferry replacements would not be  able to handle                                                               
difficult  conditions.   He recalled  visiting Ketchikan  in 1968                                                               
when the wind  was blowing 70 miles per hour.   He expressed hope                                                               
that  legislators "would  work  it out"  and  that ferry  service                                                               
would continue.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:18:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER  LENDE, Assembly  Member, Haines  Borough Assembly,  said                                                               
she is  speaking for herself  and identified herself as  a member                                                               
of the  Haines Borough  Assembly.   She said  she has  waited six                                                               
hours  to speak  and  expressed gratitude  to  the committee  for                                                               
taking  testimony.   She shared  that the  people of  Haines feel                                                               
especially committed  to AMHS  because it  was founded  in Haines                                                               
well over  60 years ago.   She said  AMHS was founded  to connect                                                               
the coastal  communities to  each other  and to  the rest  of the                                                               
world in  order to build  a thriving coastal region  in Southeast                                                               
Alaska.   She  said that  has  been a  huge success.   She  urged                                                               
support  for AMHS  and  asked that  it  not be  shut  down.   She                                                               
advocated for  "a more reliable  system with the plan  adopted by                                                               
the Southeast Conference."  She said  she is happy to pay for her                                                               
tickets.   She said she supports  a state income tax.   She asked                                                               
committee members  to consider at  least a  1 percent tax  on the                                                               
richest  corporations  in the  world  doing  business in  Alaska,                                                               
rather than cutting essential services.   She said she would also                                                               
give  up her  PFD  to  make that  happen.    She concluded,  "The                                                               
governor has  called his budget  'agnostic   but I have  faith in                                                               
Alaskans and in you to do  the right thing and support the people                                                               
of this state."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHRYN COATS said she supports AMHS.   She shared that, when she                                                               
was born 37 years ago, she  was brought home from the hospital on                                                               
the ferry  from Ketchikan to Prince  of Wales Island.   She added                                                               
that her son was also brought home  on the ferry when he was born                                                               
eight  years ago.   She  said her  mother worked  for the  Inter-                                                               
Island  Ferry  Authority.    She   stated  that  [AMHS]  is  very                                                               
important to her  and her family.  She commented  on the "decline                                                               
of the  system in Southeast"  and recalled riding the  ferry when                                                               
it had a  gift shop and Tony Tengs [an  earlier testifier] worked                                                               
in the  bar.  She  opined that AMHS's upper-level  management can                                                               
be   improved upon."   She  said the  jobs provided  by AMHS  are                                                               
vital  to  Southeast  Alaska  and   other  coastal  areas.    She                                                               
identified herself as  a veteran and discussed  the importance of                                                               
being able to  travel back and forth from Prince  of Wales Island                                                               
to Ketchikan for medical care.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:21:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGIE DEMMERT said she supports  the ferries and shared that her                                                               
job would  be in jeopardy  without AMHS.   She said she  works at                                                               
Angoon's  only  grocery  store, which  obtains  its  produce  and                                                               
groceries via the  ferry.  She said Angoon's schools  use AMHS to                                                               
travel.  She  stated, "When we lose a loved  one, they bring them                                                               
home on the ferry."   She said AMHS allows her  family to have an                                                               
affordable vacation without having  to spend thousands of dollars                                                               
on  airplane tickets.    She  described the  ferry  as "the  only                                                               
lifeline" in  and out of her  village.  She noted  that residents                                                               
use  the  ferry  to  travel for  medical  care,  explaining  that                                                               
village elders cannot get in and  out of seaplanes.  She restated                                                               
that  residents use  the  ferry  to access  medical  care and  to                                                               
attend family reunions.  She  asked committee members not to take                                                               
away the ferry.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:22:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA   STEELE,   after   some  brief   technical   difficulties,                                                               
identified  herself as  a  third-generation Alaskan  representing                                                               
herself.    She referenced  a  recent  comment  on AMHS  made  by                                                               
Senator Shelley Hughes:  "The whining and crying  to maintain the                                                               
status quo is sad."  She  said she disagrees with Senator Hughes.                                                               
She said,  "Alaskans are not  whining or crying; we  are speaking                                                               
out for the services  that we depend on and doing  what we can to                                                               
be part  of a  solution."   She called  the reaction  of Alaskans                                                               
admirable and not  sad.  She said it embodies  the very spirit of                                                               
Alaska.  She continued:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     What  is sad  is  that  we have  a  governor who  would                                                                    
     rather pay out  billions of dollars in oil  tax cuts to                                                                    
     oil companies  than keep Alaskans in  the coastal areas                                                                    
     connected to reliable,  affordable transportation.  And                                                                    
     he  would rather  cut off  Southeast  Alaska and  other                                                                    
     coastal  communities than  do the  unpopular thing  and                                                                    
     cut our PFDs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. STEELE  said she would rather  have a cut PFD  or no PFD                                                                    
than see  coastal communities cut  off.  She said  she would                                                                    
rather pay  an income  tax than see  her neighbors  "pay the                                                                    
dangerous price of being isolated  from urban centers."  She                                                                    
pleaded,  "Please  listen  to   Alaskans.    We  believe  in                                                                    
ferries."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:25:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD COOK identified himself as  a 35-year Alaska resident and                                                               
a 25-year AMHS  employee.  He urged legislators to  bring forth a                                                               
rational,  veto-proof  counterproposal   to  Governor  Dunleavy's                                                               
"proposed draconian  cuts."   He said  it is  true that  AMHS has                                                               
suffered  from mismanagement  and political  influences for  many                                                               
years.  He  stressed that the solution is not  "to throw the baby                                                               
out with  the bathwater."   He requested  reforms to  rather than                                                               
elimination of  AMHS.  He said  the loss of AMHS  would devastate                                                               
coastal  communities  and  would  negatively  impact  the  entire                                                               
state.   He said  the same  applies for  the rest  the governors                                                                
proposed budget.   He  said he  would find a  large PFD  check of                                                               
little lasting value when compared  to the loss of livelihood and                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:26:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHAWNA  WILLIAMS-BUCHANAN  identified  herself  as  a  commercial                                                               
fisherman who  currently fishes out  of Cordova.  She  said that,                                                               
as a third-generation fisherman who  has fished all her life, she                                                               
has spent  the past 40  years utilizing AMHS.   She said  she has                                                               
ridden the  ferry between  Whittier and Cordova  19 times  in the                                                               
last year alone.  She said  the elimination of AMHS would cripple                                                               
rural communities.  She said she is in favor of AMHS.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:27:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE DALTON, JR.,  opined that SOA does not need  more than one                                                               
consultant and  that one  consultant should be  good enough.   He                                                               
noted that  Hoonah's handicap-accessible van used  by seniors had                                                               
to be sent to  Juneau for repairs.  He noted  that this would not                                                               
be possible  without ferry service.   He commented on  the number                                                               
of  testifiers:  "The more  people  we  hear,  the better."    He                                                               
thanked the committee members in Tlingit.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:28:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN  MAHLEN identified  herself as  a Fairbanks  resident who                                                               
has fished  out of Cordova for  the past nine years.   She echoed                                                               
the  sentiments  of  previous   testifiers.    She  said  coastal                                                               
communities would be cut off from  the rest of Alaska without the                                                               
ferries.  She said the proposal  to eliminate AMHS is an economic                                                               
and cultural  attack on  the residents  of those  communities and                                                               
their way  of life.   She asked for AMHS  to be fully  funded and                                                               
stressed that  it should not  be privatized, as that  would cause                                                               
it to  become more  expensive.   She noted  that many  people who                                                               
reside in coastal  communities live off the land and  do not make                                                               
much money.  She said  AMHS keeps small communities connected and                                                               
repeated  that to  shut  it  down would  be  an  attack on  those                                                               
communities.  She stated that  some villages deal with social and                                                               
economic issues  that would be  worsened by the removal  of ferry                                                               
service.   She noted that AMHS  is a public health  service.  She                                                               
said  that, as  a  commercial fisherwoman,  she  knows that  many                                                               
fishing operations  utilize AMHS.   She  said those  people spend                                                               
money in all the places they  go and explained that this supports                                                               
the coastal economy.   She pleaded for full funding  for AMHS and                                                               
repeated her stance against privatization.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:29:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARCELO QUINTO,  President, Camp  70, Alaska  Native Brotherhood,                                                               
identified himself  as a lifelong  resident of Juneau.   He noted                                                               
that he  was alive before  AMHS.  He  stated that he  agrees with                                                               
previous  testifiers but  said what  has  not been  said is  that                                                               
people his  age remember what  it was like before  AMHS connected                                                               
them  to urban  centers for  medical care,  school, and  cultural                                                               
relations.   He opined that  Governor Dunleavy's  proposed budget                                                               
would "[take] us  back ... 60,70 years, where we  would no longer                                                               
have connections."  He shared  that "our children and our people"                                                               
would lose  contact with each other.   He said SOA  needs to keep                                                               
the  ferries running.    He  stated that  the  problem with  AMHS                                                               
relates to  scheduling and successive  years of budget cuts.   He                                                               
noted   that  ridership   from   Bellingham   has  dropped   from                                                               
approximately 800 to 500 per voyage.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:31:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  thanked everybody who  took the time and  effort to                                                               
testify.    She thanked  them  as  well  for their  patience  and                                                               
willingness to cut  testimonies to one minute each.   She thanked                                                               
committee members for staying late and hearing testimony.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES closed public testimony on the issue of AMHS.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:32:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Transportation Standing  Committee meeting was adjourned  at 3:32                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Supporting Document - Fourth Compilation of AMHS Written Testimony - 3.13.19.pdf HTRA 3/14/2019 1:30:00 PM
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