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03/15/2011 01:00 PM TRANSPORTATION


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 64 PERMANENT MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 64(TRA) Out of Committee
+= HB 10 NONCOMMERCIAL TRAILER REGISTRATION FEE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 10(TRA) Out of Committee
*+ HB 131 COMMUNITY AND TRANSPORTATION ADV. BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 15, 2011                                                                                         
                           1:07 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Lance Pruitt, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Eric Feige                                                                                                       
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz                                                                                             
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
Representative Pete Petersen                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 64                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to permanent motor vehicle registration; and                                                                   
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 64(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 10                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to the registration fee for noncommercial                                                                      
trailers and to the motor vehicle tax for trailers."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 10(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 131                                                                                                              
"An   Act   establishing   the  Alaska   Community   and   Public                                                               
Transportation  Advisory  Board  and  relating  to  a  long-range                                                               
community and  public transportation  plan; and providing  for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 64                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: PERMANENT MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STOLTZE, KELLER                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
01/18/11       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/11                                                                                
01/18/11       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/18/11       (H)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
02/10/11       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/10/11       (H)       Moved Out of Committee                                                                                 
02/10/11       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/11/11       (H)       STA RPT 2DP 2NR 3AM                                                                                    
02/11/11       (H)       DP: KELLER, LYNN                                                                                       
02/11/11       (H)       NR: JOHANSEN, GRUENBERG                                                                                
02/11/11       (H)       AM: P.WILSON, SEATON, PETERSEN                                                                         
02/11/11       (H)       TRA REFERRAL ADDED AFTER STA                                                                           
02/24/11       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
02/24/11       (H)       Heard & Held; Assigned to Subcommittee                                                                 
02/24/11       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/11/11       (H)       TRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/11/11       (H)       -- Public Testimony --                                                                                 
03/15/11       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 10                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: NONCOMMERCIAL TRAILER REGISTRATION FEE                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STOLTZE, KELLER                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
01/18/11       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/11                                                                                
01/18/11       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/18/11       (H)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
02/10/11       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
02/10/11       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/10/11       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
02/24/11       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
02/24/11       (H)       Heard & Held; Assigned to Subcommittee                                                                 
02/24/11       (H)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/11/11       (H)       TRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/11/11       (H)       -- Public Testimony --                                                                                 
03/15/11       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 131                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: COMMUNITY AND TRANSPORTATION ADV. BOARD                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MUNOZ                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
01/28/11       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/28/11       (H)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
03/15/11       (H)       TRA AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAVID BREMER, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative Pete Petersen                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the subcommittee comments on HB                                                                
10 and HB 64.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DARRELL BREESE, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Bill Stoltze                                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on behalf of one of the                                                               
prime sponsors of HB 64.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
RICK GIFFORD, Manager                                                                                                           
Kodiak Island Borough (KIB)                                                                                                     
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 64.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
WHITNEY BREWSTER, Director                                                                                                      
Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV)                                                                                                
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 64.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KATHIE WASSERMAN, Executive Director                                                                                            
Alaska Municipal League (AML)                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 64.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DARRELL BREESE, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Bill Stoltze                                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on behalf of one of the                                                               
prime sponsor of HB 10.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KENDRA KLOSTER, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Cathy Munoz                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 131.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JEFF OTTESEN, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Program Development                                                                                                 
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the discussion of                                                              
HB 131.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ERIC TAYLOR                                                                                                                     
Statewide Plan & Transit                                                                                                        
Division of Program Development                                                                                                 
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and  answered questions during the                                                             
discussion of HB 131.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LEVY, Executive Director                                                                                                  
Alaska Mobility Coalition (AMC)                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 131.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARIE DARLIN, Coordinator                                                                                                       
AARP Capital City Task Force                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 131.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KATHIE WASSERMAN, Executive Director                                                                                            
Alaska Municipal League (AML)                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 131.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:07:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PEGGY  WILSON  called the  House  Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order at  1:07  p.m.  Representatives  P.                                                               
Wilson, Munoz,  Feige, Pruitt, and  Petersen were present  at the                                                               
call to order.  Representatives  Johnson and Gruenberg arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           HB 64-PERMANENT MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
[Contains brief discussion of HB  10, a related bill that affects                                                               
noncommercial trailer registration fees.]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:07:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON announced that  the first order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL NO.  64,  "An  Act  relating to  permanent  motor                                                               
vehicle registration; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked Representative  Petersen to report  on the                                                               
work  the  subcommittee did  on  the  motor vehicle  and  trailer                                                               
registration fee bills.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:08:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN  referred to the subcommittee  work on HB                                                               
10 and  HB 64 and  indicated the  subcommittee met and  have made                                                               
suggestions to  the committee  for consideration.   He  asked his                                                               
staff to provide details.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DAVID BREMER,  Staff, Representative Pete Petersen,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, explained the  changes the subcommittee recommended,                                                               
which  he  said  are  incorporated   into  a  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  for the  committee's consideration.   He  stated that                                                               
the  subcommittee suggested  removing  the  language in  proposed                                                               
subsection  (b) that  referred to  the lesser  of five  times the                                                               
rate or $100,  and replaced it with "three times  the rate" which                                                               
would apply  to the registration  fee rate and the  Motor Vehicle                                                               
Registration Tax  (MVRT) collection.  The  subcommittee suggested                                                               
adding a  new section,  proposed section 4,  which would  allow a                                                               
municipality  to  establish a  permanent  MVRT.   A  municipality                                                               
could charge more or less than  the three times set in subsection                                                               
(b) of the bill.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BREMER  reported  the subcommittee  considered  issues  with                                                               
respect  to collections  budgeting discussed  at prior  committee                                                               
hearings  for both  the  vehicle  registration and  noncommercial                                                               
trailer registration.   He stated  that the state  revenues would                                                               
increase  for two  years, but  revenues would  drop off  for each                                                               
year thereafter.   Currently, emissions tests  (I/M) are required                                                               
in  Anchorage.    Owners  would   still  be  required  to  obtain                                                               
emissions test and present the results  to the DMV at the time of                                                               
renewal.   Older vehicles  are most likely  to fail  I/M testing,                                                               
and someone who  has permanent registration may move  into an I/M                                                               
area and  there is no way  to verify the vehicle  can comply with                                                               
the  IM  requirements.    Owners  in I/M  areas  would  still  be                                                               
required to obtain I/M testing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:13:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREMER  related that HB 64  is based on Montana's  law, which                                                               
allows for  permanent motor vehicle  registration based on  a fee                                                               
of five  times the  vehicle registration  rate for  vehicles that                                                               
are 11 years  old.  The subcommittee  suggests inserting language                                                               
eight  years old  and  three  times the  rate.    Once a  vehicle                                                               
reaches 14  years, a  municipality would  begin to  lose revenue.                                                               
The benchmark arrived at is a  combination of the vehicle age and                                                               
a multiplier of the registration rate.   He said that 34 years is                                                               
the point  at which  the bill becomes  revenue neutral.   Montana                                                               
permanent registration  also applies  to light vehicles  only, or                                                               
vehicles of  one ton  or less  whereas the  proposed HB  64 would                                                               
apply to  all vehicles.   Montana  provides the  county treasurer                                                               
the authority to  collect the motor vehicle tax.   In Alaska, the                                                               
tax  is  an  MVRT,  which is  not  collected  by  municipalities.                                                               
However, the bill allows a  municipality to establish a permanent                                                               
MVRT.   in the original  HB 64,  motorcycle fees were  set higher                                                               
than  the MVRT.   The  subcommittee  removed the  lesser of  five                                                               
times  the  rate or  $100,  which  addresses the  motorcycle  fee                                                               
issue, he said.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREMER recalled  the issue of safety, noting  that people may                                                               
wish to drive their motor vehicle  longer, which could lead to an                                                               
increase in the number of unsafe  cars on the roadway.  Permanent                                                               
registration is  not transferable, but is  not enforceable unless                                                               
a  driver  is pulled  over  by  law  enforcement.   Some  members                                                               
expressed  concern  over  liability  issues  if  a  vehicle  with                                                               
permanent  registration  is  sold  and not  reregistered.    This                                                               
issued is not easily detected unless  the person is involved in a                                                               
vehicular accident.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:16:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREMER related  a concern with respect to  DMV funding, which                                                               
is receipt  based funding.   If the  DMV revenues decreased  to a                                                               
level below  the necessary funding  level, the  legislature would                                                               
need to  enact a new  funding mechanism for the  DMV's day-to-day                                                               
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BREMER highlighted  the  current  Municipality of  Anchorage                                                               
(MOA) tax  cap limits the  amount of  taxes the MOA  can collect.                                                               
This bill  would increase  MVRT revenues in  the first  two years                                                               
significantly  with a  corresponding property  tax decrease.   In                                                               
year  three and  thereafter,  MVRT  revenues would  significantly                                                               
decrease, which  could adversely  affect MOA property  tax rates.                                                               
The  MOA's  tax cap  is  calculated  annually  based on  all  tax                                                               
revenues  collected,   including  property  tax,   liquor  taxes,                                                               
tobacco  taxes.   As  MVRT tax  income  decreases property  taxes                                                               
would increase.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BREMER related  that  the  subcommittee discussed  potential                                                               
amendments  to HB  64.    The first  amendment  was proposed  and                                                               
withdrawn  for further  discussion by  the full  committee.   The                                                               
subcommittee considered  on page 1, line  12 of HB 64  to replace                                                               
"eight"  with "fourteen"  to push  back the  eligibility date  of                                                               
vehicles to  lessen potential revenue  loss.  He  reiterated that                                                               
the amendment was proposed, discussed, and withdrawn.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREMER  stated the subcommittee  considered on page  2, lines                                                               
5-6 of HB  64, to replace "three" with "six"  times the permanent                                                               
registration  fees to  increase permanent  registration cost  and                                                               
reduce  revenue   loss.    This  amendment   was  considered  and                                                               
withdrawn.  Finally, the subcommittee  considered on page 2, line                                                               
29 of HB 64 to replace  2012 with 2014 to allow municipalities to                                                               
set a  permanent MVRT.   The municipality  must file a  notice of                                                               
change  by January  1  of the  preceding year  in  which the  tax                                                               
change  would take  effect.   A municipality  may not  change the                                                               
amount of the  tax imposed more than once every  two years.  Some                                                               
municipalities  set  their MVRT  last  year  and would  need  the                                                               
effective  date  adjusted  to enact  a  permanent  motor  vehicle                                                               
registration tax without incurring a drastic loss of revenue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:20:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BREMER  recapped   the  subcommittee's   work  on   HB  10.                                                               
Currently,  owners  can  register their  commercial  trailers  by                                                               
paying a one-time fee for  permanent registration.  This bill, HB                                                               
10, would  offer the  same consideration  for owners  to register                                                               
noncommercial trailers.   Some  of the  same issues  were raised,                                                               
but  the revenue  issues  were minimal.    The sponsor  suggested                                                               
incorporating  language from  Section 4,  of  64 into  HB 10,  in                                                               
order  to  allow  municipalities   a  mechanism  to  collect  any                                                               
permanent MVRT for trailers.   This provision is necessary in the                                                               
event that HB 10 passes prior to passage of HB 64.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:21:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS), labeled 27-LS0327\I,  Luckhaupt, 3/14/11, as the                                                               
working  document.   There  being  no  objection, Version  I  was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:22:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARRELL BREESE, Staff, Representative  Bill Stoltze, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of one  of the  prime sponsors of  HB 64,                                                               
Representative  Bill Stoltze,  stated that  the sponsor  reviewed                                                               
and the  agrees with the  changes incorporated into  the proposed                                                               
CS, Version I.  He also  discussed the effective date change with                                                               
the sponsor, who  agrees since it would  allow the municipalities                                                               
to make  an adjustment  to the MVRT.   Additionally,  the sponsor                                                               
agreed to  add the language from  proposed Section 4 of  HB 64 to                                                               
HB 10,  which would allow  the permanent registration rate  to be                                                               
set for noncommercial trailer ownership.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:23:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ referred  to the  issue for  the MOA.   She                                                               
asked if  the municipality takes advantage  of increased revenues                                                               
and budgets  the revenues  over ten years  whether the  MOA would                                                               
run into the problem of revenue  shortfalls after year two of the                                                               
permanent registration for motor vehicles.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREESE answered  no.  He discussed this with  the MOA mayor's                                                               
office, who advised him that so  long as the MVRT is collected in                                                               
2010  but accounted  for 2011-13,  that  the MOA  would not  have                                                               
issues  with major  adjustment  to  the tax  cap  or tax  revenue                                                               
collected.  The MOA could assign  the MVRT revenue to a different                                                               
year, such as 2011-2013, the revenue  would affect the tax cap in                                                               
the subsequent years.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:24:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ recapped  the  amendments the  subcommittee                                                               
discussed.    The subcommittee  did  not  have consensus  on  two                                                               
amendments.  She  clarified that the subcommittee  brought up the                                                               
first amendment for discussion to  push back the eligibility date                                                               
to a higher level but did not reach any consensus.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:25:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREESE, in  response to Chair P. Wilson, explained  that if a                                                               
municipality decides to set an MVRT  rate, the rate it sets would                                                               
cover the municipal tax imposed for  the life of the vehicle.  In                                                               
further   response  to   Chair  P.   Wilson,  he   described  the                                                               
registration  fees.   Currently,  Alaska statutes  allow a  motor                                                               
vehicle registration tax  (MVRT) rate to be collected  on the age                                                               
of the motor vehicle.  As  per the table set in existing statute,                                                               
once  a vehicle  is eight  years old,  the rate  is flat.   Thus,                                                               
additional MVRT is  not imposed on motor vehicles  eight years or                                                               
older.   A municipality  can also elect  to impose  an additional                                                               
MVRT,   by   ordinance.     He   recalled   that  currently,   16                                                               
municipalities have  done so.  He  related a scenario in  which a                                                               
municipality would charge $50 or  $100, instead of charging a fee                                                               
of $25  set in  current statute.   The  municipality can  set the                                                               
rate based on  the vehicle age and at a  rate that a municipality                                                               
determines provides adequate revenue for the municipality.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.   WILSON  asked  whether   a  municipality   could  add                                                               
additional fees in year nine or 10.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREESE  answered that after  year eight, the MVRT  rate would                                                               
be flat,  but the provision would  allow a municipality to  set a                                                               
fee  for  motor  vehicle  owners  who  elect  to  have  permanent                                                               
registration.   Thus, a  municipality could  impose an  extra fee                                                               
and  decide  the amount  of  the  fee  required to  register  the                                                               
vehicle  permanently  to  keep  the  municipal  revenue  neutral.                                                               
Additionally, the municipality could  decide to accept the "three                                                               
times" fee as  currently written.  The proposed Section  4 of the                                                               
committee substitute  (CS) for HB  64 would allow  a municipality                                                               
to set  a certain tax  for permanent motor  vehicle registration.                                                               
It  is possible  an  owner  could decide  to  wait until  his/her                                                               
vehicle  is  12  years  old   before  permanent  registration  is                                                               
selected.  At the point  an owner selects permanent registration,                                                               
any municipal  fees would apply,  if the municipality  has passed                                                               
an ordinance  imposing additional  one-time registration  fees on                                                               
motor  vehicles,  he said.    In  further  response to  Chair  P.                                                               
Wilson,  Mr.  Breese  he reiterated  the  process  municipalities                                                               
would  use to  collect either  three  times the  MVRT or  another                                                               
amount set  by municipal  ordinance for any  amount it  elects to                                                               
adopt.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:29:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN pointed  out that  the MOA's  Treasurer,                                                               
Cheryl  Frasca, said  the  collection  of the  MVRT  is based  on                                                               
collection   rather  than   on   budgeting.     He  related   his                                                               
understanding that the MOA is not  set up to collect taxes in one                                                               
year and budget it over other years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:30:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICK GIFFORD,  Manager, Kodiak Island Borough  (KIB), stated that                                                               
the KIB still  has concerns with HB  64.  He said  it was unclear                                                               
in  HB  64  exactly  how   the  MVRT  will  be  administered  and                                                               
collected.  He related his  understanding that municipalities use                                                               
the  MVRT funds  for abandoned  vehicles, noting  that the  older                                                               
vehicles cause problems in Kodiak.   He recalled that the DMV had                                                               
a  similar fund  and reducing  the overall  MVRT collected  would                                                               
impact the DMV's ability to  assist municipalities.  He expressed                                                               
his concern over HB 64.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:32:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WHITNEY  BREWSTER, Director,  Division of  Motor Vehicles  (DMV),                                                               
Department  of Administration  (DOA), stated  the CS  drastically                                                               
reduces the  fiscal note from  the DMV.   She advised the  FN was                                                               
submitted  just prior  to  this hearing.    She highlighted  that                                                               
removing  certain  language from  the  bill  solidifies the  fees                                                               
collected by the DMV.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON related that she  has not yet received the fiscal                                                               
note and asked for clarification.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BREWSTER understood.  The  Governor's office prepared a draft                                                               
fiscal note since the CS had not  yet been adopted.  In the first                                                               
year,  FY   2012  the  change   in  revenue  would   increase  to                                                               
$3,550,000, and revenue would increase  in FY 2013 to $4,120,000.                                                               
In  FY 2014,  the DMV  anticipates  a revenue  reduction of  $1.2                                                               
million, in  FY 2015 the  DMV anticipates a revenue  reduction of                                                               
$1,500,000, in FY  2016 the DMV estimates a  revenue reduction of                                                               
$1,500,000,  and  in  FY  2017 the  DMV  estimates  a  $1,800,000                                                               
revenue reduction.   She stated that the  CS dramatically changes                                                               
the fiscal note.   In response to Chair P.  Wilson, she responded                                                               
that  the DMV's  proposed  budget is  approximately $16  million.                                                               
She stressed that  with the adoption of the proposed  CS, the DMV                                                               
does not see an impact on  the DMV's budget.  In further response                                                               
to Chair P. Wilson, she  indicated that the proposed changes will                                                               
reduce  the overall  revenue  collected,  but in  FY  10 the  DMV                                                               
collected approximately $65.8 million  in revenue, which is still                                                               
substantially more than necessary to run DMV.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  related  the revenue  collected  would be  less                                                               
revenue collected for the general fund each year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BREWSTER agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:36:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHIE  WASSERMAN, Executive  Director,  Alaska Municipal  League                                                               
(AML), stated that she spoke  to a number of municipalities prior                                                               
to the meeting.  Many of  them indicated that the MVRT funds help                                                               
with junk car  removal.  If this bill  passes, the municipalities                                                               
will need  to determine how  much tax to  require.  She  said the                                                               
municipalities would estimate the proposed  MVRT, since it is not                                                               
possible  to  determine  how  many years  an  older  vehicle  may                                                               
operate.    Thus, some  municipalities  will  have shortfalls  or                                                               
excesses, accordingly.   Additionally, municipalities would still                                                               
need to adopt the tax change  by ordinance and may result in some                                                               
"pushback" from  residents.  She  is most familiar with  the City                                                               
and Borough  of Juneau, which  collects $22 per  registered motor                                                               
vehicle, or basically $11 per year.   If an automobile will be on                                                               
the road for an indeterminate  amount of time, the municipalities                                                               
express concern.  The system seemed  to work fine.  She concluded                                                               
that the municipalities  are at a loss in terms  of assessing the                                                               
overall  impact,  which would  likely  increase  personnel.   She                                                               
said, "The municipalities are not comfortable with this bill."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:38:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON, after first  determining no one else  wished to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 64.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:38:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN suggested considering  the age of vehicle                                                               
for eligibility for  one-time registration.  The  current CS uses                                                               
eight years,  the Montana model  uses 11  years.  He  wondered if                                                               
the bill was moved to 11  years it may allow municipalities to be                                                               
revenue  neutral until  motor vehicles  are  17 years  old.   The                                                               
number of motor vehicle on the  roadway greater than 17 years old                                                               
diminishes rather quickly,  he said.  Thus, it  would likely have                                                               
a little less  effect on municipalities strapped  for funding, he                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:41:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  made  a   motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1 to HB  64.  He referred to page 1, line  12 of HB 64,                                                               
to change the applicable vehicle age from "eight" to 11.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  related the committee  spent considerable                                                               
time discussing  how to best accommodate  the municipalities, but                                                               
little  time  to  discuss  the convenience  or  cost  savings  to                                                               
consumers.   The  point of  this bill  has somewhat  been missed,                                                               
which is to  save money, time and convenience for  consumers.  He                                                               
said it  might be  inconvenient for  municipalities.   He pointed                                                               
out that any money municipalities lose  is money that is saved by                                                               
consumers.  He maintained his objection.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:43:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  Munoz, Gruenberg,                                                               
and  Petersen   voted  in  favor   of  Conceptual   Amendment  1.                                                               
Representatives  Johnson,  Feige,  Pruitt, and  P.  Wilson  voted                                                               
against it.   Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 1 failed  by a vote                                                               
of 3-4.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:43:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT moved  to  report  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB  64,  labeled  27-LS0327\I,  Luckhaupt,                                                               
3/14/11,  out of  committee with  individual recommendations  and                                                               
the accompanying  fiscal note.   There  being no  objection, CSHB                                                               
64(TRA)  was  reported  from the  House  Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
          HB 10-NONCOMMERCIAL TRAILER REGISTRATION FEE                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
1:44:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  announced that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 10, "An  Act relating to the  registration fee                                                               
for  noncommercial trailers  and  to the  motor  vehicle tax  for                                                               
trailers."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB 10,  labeled  27-LS00091\B,  Luckhaupt,                                                               
3/14/11,  as the  working document.   There  being no  objection,                                                               
Version B was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:45:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARRELL BREESE, Staff, Representative  Bill Stoltze, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,   on  behalf   of   one  of   the  prime   sponsors,                                                               
Representative Bill Stoltze,  stated that the only  change to the                                                               
bill  contained in  the proposed  CS  is the  inclusion to  allow                                                               
municipalities  to  adopt  by  ordinance  the  permanent  vehicle                                                               
registration rate for noncommercial trailers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:46:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  made a  motion  to  adopt a  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment to  change the effective  date from  2012 to 2014.   He                                                               
stated he  misstated his amendment  since the  CS for HB  10 does                                                               
not have an effective date.  He withdrew his amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  made a  motion  to  adopt a  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment to create an effective date for bill as 2014.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  objected.   He pointed  out that  2014 is                                                               
not a date.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON referred to  the date  in the previous  bill the                                                               
committee just passed out, which was January 1, 2014.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  made a  motion  to  adopt a  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment to create effective date for HB 10 of January 1, 2014.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON raised  a  point  of order.    He said  a                                                               
motion is before the committee and the motion must be withdrawn                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN  withdrew his prior motion  which did not                                                               
contain the date, January 1, 2014.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:48:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  made a  motion  to  adopt a  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment to  create an  effective date  in HB  10 of  January 1,                                                               
2014.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON objected.  He asked to hear from sponsor.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREESE  answered that the  sponsor agrees with  the inclusion                                                               
of the effective date of January 1, 2014.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON withdrew his objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
There  being no  further  objection, Conceptual  Amendment 1  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:49:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT moved  to  report  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB 10,  labeled  27-LS00091\B,  Luckhaupt,                                                               
3/14/11,   as  amended,   out   of   committee  with   individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no  objection,   CSHB  10(TRA)  was   reported  from   the  House                                                               
Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
         HB 131-COMMUNITY AND TRANSPORTATION ADV. BOARD                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  announced that final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 131,  "An Act  establishing the  Alaska Community                                                               
and Public Transportation Advisory Board  and relating to a long-                                                               
range  community and  public transportation  plan; and  providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:50:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KENDRA KLOSTER,  Staff, Representative Cathy Munoz,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  stated  that  the   bill  would  create  an  Alaska                                                               
Community and  Public Transportation Advisory Board.   This would                                                               
assist in the development and  procedural recommendations made by                                                               
the Governor's Coordinated Transportation  Task force in February                                                               
2010.   Transportation is important  to communities.   This board                                                               
will  continue  efforts  to address  state,  federal,  and  local                                                               
community-based   transportation  services.     The   board  will                                                               
continue efforts  to address public and  community transportation                                                               
and help  fill the gap  in transportation for people  who require                                                               
more specialized  travel, including  senior citizens,  low income                                                               
individuals,  persons  with  disabilities,   and  those  who  are                                                               
transit-dependent.   The  Community  and Transportation  Advisory                                                               
Board would consist  of 13 members from  departments within state                                                               
and local  governments, the Denali Commission,  the Alaska Mental                                                               
Health  Trust  Authority,  nonprofits, senior  citizens,  persons                                                               
with  disabilities,  and  transit-dependent  individuals.    This                                                               
broad  range of  membership could  help facilities  communication                                                               
and strategies that will benefit  communities of all sizes.  This                                                               
bill  has  support  from  the   Alaska  Mobility  Coalition,  the                                                               
Governor's  Council   on  Disabilities  and   Special  Education,                                                               
Advisory  Board   on  Alcoholism  and  Drug   Abuse,  the  Alaska                                                               
Commission on  Aging, Alaska Mental  Health Trust  Authority, the                                                               
Alaska Brain  Injury Network, Suicide Prevention  Council and the                                                               
AARP.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. KLOSTER stated  that the board's expenses will  be similar to                                                               
the  task  force  currently  in   place.    The  Federal  Transit                                                               
Administration funding provides 90 percent  of the $110,000.  The                                                               
state will  provide matching funds  and an additional  10 percent                                                               
of the funding is provided by the Alaska Mental Health Trust.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG remarked that he  was glad this bill was                                                               
introduced.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:53:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF   OTTESEN,  Director,   Division  of   Program  Development,                                                               
Department  of  Transportation   &  Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF),                                                               
deferred to Eric Taylor, who prepared the fiscal note.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ERIC  TAYLOR,  Statewide  Plan &  Transit,  Division  of  Program                                                               
Development,  Department of  Transportation  & Public  Facilities                                                               
(DOT&PF), stated that he prepared the fiscal note.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  asked what  portion of  the funding  is derived                                                               
from federal funds.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR estimated  the Community  and Transit  Advisory Board                                                               
funding would  be as follows:   $90,000 from the  Federal Transit                                                               
Administration for  program planning,  $10,000 in  state matching                                                               
funds, and $10,000 from the Alaska  Mental Health Trust Fund.  In                                                               
response to Chair P. Wilson,  Mr. Taylor explained that typically                                                               
the Federal Transit  Authority requires a 20 percent  match.  The                                                               
DOT&PF  generally  uses  planning  funds.    The  state  receives                                                               
approximately  $6.8   million  to   support  rural   transit  and                                                               
community transportation programs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:56:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked  if the  project would  require additional                                                               
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR answered  that the DOT&PF foes  not anticipate needing                                                               
any additional staff.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT  asked  if $90,000  represents  additional                                                               
funds  from the  federal  government  or if  the  funds would  be                                                               
shifted towards this program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN explained that part  of the funds is deliberately set                                                               
aside for planning.   This is funding that pays  for the planning                                                               
task.   For  the  past two  years, the  department  has used  the                                                               
planning  funding to  conduct  the work  of  the Governor's  Task                                                               
Force.   This would create  a permanent commission rather  than a                                                               
temporary task force.   This funding would not  change the effort                                                               
but  would carry  forward  the  funding into  future  years.   He                                                               
recalled  the DOT&PF  has a  difficult time  spending all  of the                                                               
spending  funding  and  typically  returns some  to  the  federal                                                               
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  asked whether  the DOT&PF  anticipates the                                                               
same level of planning funding.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OTTESEN answered  yes.    He said  if  anything the  federal                                                               
transit funding appears to be on  a growth curve.  In response to                                                               
Chair  P.  Wilson,  Mr. Ottesen  explained  that  the  Governor's                                                               
Coordinated Transportation  Task Force has operated  for a little                                                               
more than  one year.   The previous task  force was in  place for                                                               
about 15 months, with a gap  in between.  He currently chairs the                                                               
existing Governor's  Coordinated Transportation  Task Force.   He                                                               
stressed that  additional work needs  to be done.   He elaborated                                                               
that coordinated  transportation is  about spending  dollars more                                                               
wisely.   He stated that  about 60 categories of  federal funding                                                               
provide  transportation for  injured  veterans, senior  citizens,                                                               
persons  with disabilities  or who  are low-income.   He  said it                                                               
does not  make sense to  have all those vehicles  running around,                                                               
each  carrying   a  fraction  of  the   population,  without  any                                                               
coordination in dispatch  or motor pool.   The federal government                                                               
has been pushing coordinated transportation  to try to reduce the                                                               
spending from so many sources.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:59:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked for  clarification on the  federal funding                                                               
in Alaska,  whether it is provided  in a lump sum  or is parceled                                                               
out to various agencies.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OTTESEN answered  that the  state  receives Federal  Transit                                                               
funding  in  different  categories,  with  different  eligibility                                                               
requirements.    The DOT&PF  is  the  only recipient  of  transit                                                               
funds.   The  rest of  the funding  is distributed  through other                                                               
agencies, such  as the Department  of Health and  Social Services                                                               
(DHSS) or the Department of  Military & Veterans' Affairs (DMVA).                                                               
He  said  other separate  agencies  are  working to  ensure  that                                                               
coordination  since  everyone benefit.    He  said thus  far  the                                                               
effort  cuts   across  the  silos   of  state   government  local                                                               
government   since   they   provide  services   for   nonprofits.                                                               
"Organizations tend to stay in their silos," he said.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:00:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   P.   WILSON    asked   whether   Governor's   Coordinated                                                               
Transportation  Task Force  will be  consolidated into  one area,                                                               
such as  DOT&PF, and bill other  agencies or if the  service will                                                               
still be in individual agencies.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN provided  a "rose colored vision" such  that a client                                                               
from  one  program   would  use  a  smart  card   to  access  the                                                               
coordinated vehicle  the card  would be read  and billed  back to                                                               
the respective agency, including  that the Department of Military                                                               
& Veterans' Affairs for a  disabled veteran.  He anticipated that                                                               
the service  would be seamless  and transparent, with  a computer                                                               
system handling the details of the charges.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  referred to  page  2  of the  DOT&PF's                                                               
fiscal note.   He said that  the bill establishes the  board, but                                                               
then it says the bill increases the size of the board.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OTTESEN  related that  the  new  board is  functionally  the                                                               
equivalent  of  the  Governor's Coordinated  Transportation  Task                                                               
Force, which was established by administrative order.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  referred to page  2, lines 19-20  of HB                                                               
131,  which identifies  one board  member shall  be a  member who                                                               
represents   municipalities   that   operate  modes   of   public                                                               
transportation.   He suggested that  it may be advisable  to have                                                               
two members since the needs  of small and large communities vary.                                                               
He  reiterated his  support to  add an  additional member  so the                                                               
board  would  be  a  14  member board.    He  asked  whether  six                                                               
communities operate transportation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR answered that  nine communities operate transportation                                                               
systems in the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:04:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   asked  for  the  population   of  the                                                               
communities since  it seems that  smaller communities'  needs are                                                               
different than those  of Anchorage.  He then referred  to page 3,                                                               
line  7 of  HB  131, noting  that the  board  could petition  the                                                               
governor to  remove a  member if  the member  misses two  or more                                                               
meetings  in  a  calendar  year.   He  suggested  adding  "or  is                                                               
otherwise unable to serve."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OTTESEN  related  the  DOT&PF   is  neutral  on  bill.    He                                                               
understood the logic.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ said that would be okay.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:05:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  appreciated the suggested change,  but he                                                               
pointed  out  that the  member  serves  at  the pleasure  of  the                                                               
governor so he was unsure that  the clarification was needed.  He                                                               
explained that extenuating circumstances  may require a person to                                                               
miss meetings.   He  said he is  comfortable giving  the governor                                                               
the authority.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  suggested  that  Representative Gruenberg  work                                                               
with the sponsor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:06:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  asked how the proposed  board composition                                                               
correlates to the task force.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR related  some differences exist in terms  of the state                                                               
agency  representation.    The  current  task  force  includes  a                                                               
representative  from  the  Department of  Commerce,  Community  &                                                               
Economic Development  and the Department  of Education  and Early                                                               
Development (DOEED) but does not include the Denali Commission.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON commented that  she could understand  adding the                                                               
Denali Commission.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OTTESEN related  the members  include a  representative from                                                               
the  nonprofit  provide services  and  from  a scheduled  transit                                                               
service,  a smaller  nonprofit  in Kenai,  a  tribal run  transit                                                               
system in  Sitka.  He  expressed some  people attend but  are not                                                               
specifically members of the task force.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  asked whether  the  DOEED  also has  any                                                               
funding sources.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OTTESEN  answered  that  the   idea  of  the  Department  of                                                               
Education and Early  Development is largely due  to their funding                                                               
for  school  buses.    In  some systems,  the  school  buses  are                                                               
incorporated  into the  idea of  coordinated transportation.   He                                                               
stated  that  raises some  practical  issues  since school  buses                                                               
transport children, school buses  typically are not equipped with                                                               
seatbelts.  Some states have used school buses successfully.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON agreed that school  buses are not used for                                                               
portions of the day  so it may offer a way  to better utilize the                                                               
asset.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:10:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG expressed  concern that  90 percent  of                                                               
the  funding for  the proposed  board is  federally funded.   The                                                               
state  cannot  expect  the  same  level  of  federal  funding  to                                                               
continue.  He recalled that  the legislature sometimes requires a                                                               
report from the  department to the legislature in  the event that                                                               
funding changes are  significant.  He asked  for the department's                                                               
view on adding a fiscal note  to require the department to notify                                                               
the legislature if federal funding changes.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN  answered that he  could not imagine adding  a fiscal                                                               
note  to  provide that  type  of  information.   He  agreed  that                                                               
federal funding is chaotic and difficult to predict.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG recalled  whether  seatbelts in  school                                                               
buses is an emerging issue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON suggested that is a different topic.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.  WILSON  related  her  understanding  that  if  funding                                                               
changed   the   DOT&PF   would  bring   it   up   during   budget                                                               
deliberations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LEVY, Executive Director,  Alaska Mobility Coalition (AMC),                                                               
stated he  currently is attending  a National  Transit Conference                                                               
in Washington,  D.C.  He offered  the AMC is a  private nonprofit                                                               
membership organization  that advocates for statewide  public and                                                               
community transportation.   He related that  the AMC's membership                                                               
includes  members  from  Bethel,   Prince  of  Wales  Island  and                                                               
"everything  in  between."   He  explained  that its  97  members                                                               
provide Alaskans  over 7,000,000  rides to work,  school, medical                                                               
appointments, shopping,  and for recreational opportunities.   He                                                               
offered  the AMC's  support  for  HB 131.    The  AMC has  worked                                                               
closely with the DOT&PF and  the governor the current Coordinated                                                               
Transportation Task  Force.  Transportation  in Alaska  is unique                                                               
and  the state  needs a  long-term committee  to coordinate  with                                                               
many silos  that offer transportation.   He characterized  HB 131                                                               
as a  good first step.   He expressed excitement for  a permanent                                                               
board to oversee statewide public and community transportation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:16:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FEIGE  asked  whether   any  federal  monies  are                                                               
available to individual municipalities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVY  related that  four  municipally  run transit  systems:                                                               
Anchorage, Fairbanks, Ketchikan,  and Juneau.  A  number of local                                                               
nonprofits,  tribal   governments,  and  everything   in  between                                                               
provide transportation  services.  A local  community could apply                                                               
and Mr.  Taylor could  provide information on  that process.   He                                                               
offered his  belief that local communities  and local governments                                                               
have to make that investment.   He recognized the cost associated                                                               
in doing so.   Communities all over the state  are realizing they                                                               
need  to figure  out how  to move  people.   Many nonprofits  and                                                               
tribal entities  have stepped up  to provide  services, including                                                               
the senior  center in  Kodiak and  combined tribal  and nonprofit                                                               
service in Sitka, he said.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:18:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE asked how  many state transportation systems                                                               
are  profitable   self-supporting  or  if  the   systems  require                                                               
continued funding.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVY  related  that  most  transit  systems  in  Alaska,  as                                                               
elsewhere,  require some  type  of subsidy.    In most  instances                                                               
local  or nonprofit  organizations raise  funds and  partner with                                                               
federal, local, or tribal partnerships to survive.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE asked whether  the organizations can survive                                                               
without subsidies.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVY  pointed out  this is  one of  the challenges,  that all                                                               
forms  of  transportation ranging  from  ferries  to public  road                                                               
systems need  some type of subsidy.   He offered his  belief that                                                               
many nonprofits and communities  have been creative in addressing                                                               
funding.    In  response  to  Representative  Johnson,  Mr.  Levy                                                               
indicated the statewide  transportation system provides 7,000,000                                                               
trips per year or almost 10,000 trips per day.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:19:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked how many people that represents.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVY  offered to  provide the committee  with a  breakdown by                                                               
community based on figures from an annual statewide survey.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:20:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MUNOZ  related   her  understanding   that  nine                                                               
communities have  public transit.   She asked  for a list  of the                                                               
combined nonprofit and tribal entities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVY  answered  yes.    He  said he  has  a  list  of  state                                                               
recognized transit  systems in Alaska  that receive  pass through                                                               
federal funds awarded through the competitive bid process.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIE  DARLIN,   Coordinator,  AARP  Capital  City   Task  Force,                                                               
referred  to  a letter  of  support  from  the AARP  in  members'                                                               
packets.  She related her  understanding that this recommendation                                                               
comes from the Governor's  Coordinated Transportation Task Force.                                                               
She reported  that she  has heard at  Alaska Commission  on Aging                                                               
meetings about  the work the task  force has accomplished.    The                                                               
Alaska Commission on Aging conducted  a survey to plan how senior                                                               
services  would  be addressed.    One  of the  biggest  statewide                                                               
issues raised  was the need  for transportation and the  need for                                                               
coordination  of transportation  services, particularly  in rural                                                               
areas.   Alaska  is one  of the  few states  without a  community                                                               
transportation task  force such as  the one HB 131  would create.                                                               
She emphasized  that was the  point the survey  identified, which                                                               
is the need more coordination in our communities.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. DARLIN commented that transportation  funding is derived from                                                               
many sources,  such as the  funding from the Older  Americans Act                                                               
funding  is  directed to  the  Department  of Health  and  Social                                                               
Services (DHSS).   The DHSS provides grants  to various nonprofit                                                               
to provide  transportation services.  She  stressed the necessity                                                               
of  providing  coordination  of  transportation  services.    She                                                               
commended the  work of the Governor's  Coordinated Transportation                                                               
Task Force.   She expressed her hope the work  will continue by a                                                               
commission  who  could  consider   the  broader  perspective  and                                                               
actively  coordinate  the  activities   and  the  funding.    She                                                               
emphasized   that   the   board  should   also   promote   public                                                               
participation   from   consumers,  including   senior   citizens,                                                               
disabled  persons, and  low  income individuals.    She said  the                                                               
overall plan will  serve all of the groups and  communities.  She                                                               
supported   the   concept   of  community   transportation   with                                                               
substantial community input to identify the needs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:26:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  pointed  out her  own  experience traveling  to                                                               
Bethel and  smaller surrounding  communities.   She said  she did                                                               
not  understand  how disabled  people  could  get around  without                                                               
cars, on boardwalks, or in muddy conditions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DARLIN  remarked that  each  community  is different.    She                                                               
recalled that the Commission on  Aging made the same observations                                                               
in  Bethel.   She commented  that some  people could  not get  to                                                               
meals at  the senior center.   Although the community  is working                                                               
on this, the issues are problematic, she said.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
KATHIE  WASSERMAN, Executive  Director,  Alaska Municipal  League                                                               
(AML), introduced herself.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:28:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  referred to page  2, lines 19-20  of HB                                                               
131  to the  membership of  board.   He  asked for  her input  on                                                               
whether the composition was adequate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. WASSERMAN  offered that when the  AML is invited to  serve on                                                               
task force or  group, the AML meets and  collectively decides who                                                               
could best  serve on  a particular  board.   She stated  that her                                                               
members  have the  ability to  represent  communities of  varying                                                               
sizes.  She  did not think it was necessary  to fill the proposed                                                               
task force with additional members.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  expressed concern  that but  seems like                                                               
one could perform.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. WASSERMAN answered yes.  She  stated that at times a specific                                                               
municipality  expresses interest  in serving.   She  related that                                                               
the  AML   also  meets   telephonically  to   discuss  individual                                                               
communities' concerns.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON left public testimony open on HB 131.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 131 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:31:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:31                                                                 
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 131.Community & Transportation Board.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB131 Sectional Analysis.2.2.11.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB131.Sponsor Statement.2.14.11.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB131.Alaska Mobility Coalition support ltr.2.15.11.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB131.Trust transportation priorities.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB131.Gov Task Force Recommendation Report.2.11.10.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB131.Gov Coordinated Transportation Task Force.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB0131A.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
HB131-DOT-PD-3-11-11.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 131
CSHB64- sub committee version I.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 64
HB64 Vehicle Counts Statewide.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 CS Section Changes.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64cs Sponsor Statement.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 64
CSHB10 Ver B.pdf HTRA 3/15/2011 1:00:00 PM
HB 10