Legislature(2005 - 2006)

04/19/2005 02:59 PM TRA


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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 19, 2005                                                                                         
                           2:59 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jim Elkins, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Carl Gatto, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bill Thomas                                                                                                      
Representative Woodie Salmon                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                      
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Mary Kapsner                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to overtaking and passing certain stationary                                                                   
vehicles."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 268 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 259                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to covered or enclosed loads."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 259(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 268                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OVERTAKING/PASSING STATIONARY VEHICLES                                                                             
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) RAMRAS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
04/14/05       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/14/05       (H)       TRA, JUD                                                                                               
04/19/05       (H)       TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 259                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TRUCK LOAD REQUIREMENTS                                                                                            
SPONSOR(S): TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
04/07/05       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/07/05       (H)       TRA, FIN                                                                                               
04/12/05       (H)       TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
04/12/05       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
04/19/05       (H)       TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON MAITLEN, Legislative Intern                                                                                             
to Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented HB  268 on behalf of Representative                                                               
Ramras, sponsor.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
NONA WILSON, Legislative Liaison                                                                                                
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered information on HB 259.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CARL GATTO  called  the  House Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order at  2:59:41  PM.    Representatives                                                             
Gatto, Elkins,  Thomas, and  Salmon were present  at the  call to                                                               
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HB 268 - OVERTAKING/PASSING STATIONARY VEHICLES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 268 "An  Act relating to overtaking and passing                                                               
certain stationary vehicles."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:00:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON  MAITLEN,   Legislative  Intern  to   Representative  Jay                                                               
Ramras,   Alaska   State   Legislature,   said   on   behalf   of                                                               
Representative Ramras  that HB 268  is a  tool to keep  tow truck                                                               
drivers and animal control workers safe.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO  asked  about  including  the  community  service                                                               
patrol who have flashing lights  and pick up inebriated patients.                                                               
"They are not officially ambulances," he said.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:01:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAITLEN said  that could be a committee  substitute or future                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO suggested  that  Mr. Maitlen  speak  to his  boss                                                               
about adding community  service patrols to the bill.   He said he                                                               
assumes private ambulances would be covered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:03:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS  moved to  report HB  268 out  of committee                                                               
with individual recommendations and the  zero fiscal note.  There                                                               
being  no  objection,   HB  268  was  reported   from  the  House                                                               
Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB 259 - TRUCK LOAD REQUIREMENTS                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:03:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO announced  that the final order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 259  "An Act  relating to covered  or enclosed                                                               
loads."   [Although  no  formal motion  was  made, the  committee                                                               
appeared to be referring to  a proposed committee substitute (CS)                                                               
for  HB 259  (TRA), Version  24-LS0833\Y, which  was included  in                                                               
members' packets.]                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO, speaking as co-chair  of the House Transportation                                                               
Standing Committee, sponsor  of HB 259, said much of  the bill is                                                               
housekeeping.  He  noted that there is  intense building activity                                                               
in  Anchorage, and  there are  numerous uncovered  gravel trucks.                                                               
The loads cannot  extend higher than six inches, he  said, but it                                                               
always does.  At high speeds  the gravel flies off the truck, and                                                               
he said, "It  is almost impossible to get through  a year without                                                               
a cracked  windshield."  Existing  language requires loads  to be                                                               
contained or  confined, but legally  that may just  mean confined                                                               
but not covered.   The bill changes the  language from "contained                                                               
or  confined"  to  "covered  or enclosed".    He  clarified  that                                                               
pickups that weigh  9200 pounds or less are exempted.   There are                                                               
exemptions  for sanders,  he noted,  and asked  if trucks  filled                                                               
with snow would also be exempted.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS  suggested the  committee clarify  the bill                                                               
by adding the words, "excluding snow".                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:08:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO  suggested  that  such  an  amendment  would  add                                                               
"excluding snow" after "rock," on page 1, line 5.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:08:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS  made a  motion to  adopt the  foregoing as                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:08:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NONA WILSON, Legislative Liaison,  Department of Transportation &                                                               
Public Facilities (DOT&PF), said  DOT&PF's eight-yard dump trucks                                                               
are convertible,  able to haul gravel  in the summer and  snow in                                                               
the winter.  So there wouldn't  be a reduction in the fiscal note                                                               
by excluding snow.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO  asked whether there were  objections to Amendment                                                               
1.  There being none, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  THOMAS made  a  motion to  adopt  Amendment 2  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 13, after "highway."                                                                                          
     Insert "The  requirements of this section  do not apply                                                                    
     to communities  which are  not connected  by continuous                                                                    
     state or  federal highways to Anchorage  or communities                                                                    
     of  less  than  5,000  population  unless  specifically                                                                    
     adopted by local or state traffic control plans."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:12:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO,  characterizing Amendment 2 as  perfectly drafted                                                               
totally understandable,  asked whether there were  any objections                                                               
to  Amendment 2.    There  being no  objection,  Amendment 2  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:12:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WILSON said  covered loads  are usually  only needed  when a                                                               
vehicle  is  overloaded.   She  noted  that  trash flies  out  of                                                               
smaller vehicles.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:14:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILSON said the DOT&PF  owns and operates 228 eight-yard dump                                                               
trucks, and  a fully automatic cover  is $2,300.  There  would be                                                               
an expenditure of $525,000 initially, she stated.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS asked about the rural exclusion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILSON said those trucks will be subtracted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:15:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS  said truckers in smaller  communities tend                                                               
to clean the debris up.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:15:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON asked if there  have to be covers over dump                                                               
trucks.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO said yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON asked if a dump truck would need a cover.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO described automatic covers.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. WILSON said there are also manual tarps that cost $1,600.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:17:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS  noted that  there are local  ordinances to                                                               
cover litter in a truck.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO said dump fees are higher for uncovered trash.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS  moved to  report [the  proposed CS  for HB
259,  Version 24-LS0833\Y,  as amended,]  out  of committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being  no objection,  CSHB 259(TRA)  was reported  from the                                                               
House Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at                                                                      
3:18:55 PM.                                                                                                                   

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