05/04/2023 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS
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| HB118 | |
| SB12 | |
| Adjourn | 
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| *+ | HB 118 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | SB 12 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                          May 4, 2023                                                                                           
                           3:07 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Laddie Shaw, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Stanley Wright, Vice Chair                                                                                       
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Representative Jennie Armstrong                                                                                                 
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 116                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to appropriations from the restorative justice                                                                 
account."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 116(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 118                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the sale and possession of used detached                                                                    
catalytic converters; and establishing the crime of possession,                                                                 
sale, or purchase of a used detached catalytic converter."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 12(JUD)                                                                                                  
"An Act relating to the duties of the Department of                                                                             
Administration; creating an address confidentiality program; and                                                                
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 116                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RESTORATIVE JUSTICE ACCT APPROPRIATIONS                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) COULOMBE                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
03/17/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/17/23       (H)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
04/18/23       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
04/18/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/18/23       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
05/04/23       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 118                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CATALYTIC COVERTERS: SALE/POSSESSION                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) D.JOHNSON                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
03/17/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/17/23       (H)       STA, JUD                                                                                               
05/04/23       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  12                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) KIEHL                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/18/23       (S)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/23                                                                                
01/18/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/18/23       (S)       STA, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
02/02/23       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/02/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/02/23       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/28/23       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/28/23       (S)       Moved CSSB 12(STA) Out of Committee                                                                    
02/28/23       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/01/23       (S)       STA RPT CS 1DP 3NR  NEW TITLE                                                                          
03/01/23       (S)       DP: KAWASAKI                                                                                           
03/01/23       (S)       NR: WIELECHOWSKI, BJORKMAN, MERRICK                                                                    
03/08/23       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/08/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/08/23       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/15/23       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/15/23       (S)       Moved CSSB 12(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/15/23       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/17/23       (S)       JUD RPT CS 3DP 1AM  NEW TITLE                                                                          
03/17/23       (S)       DP: CLAMAN, TOBIN, KIEHL                                                                               
03/17/23       (S)       AM: KAUFMAN                                                                                            
03/28/23       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/28/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/28/23       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/03/23       (S)       FIN RPT CS(JUD) 3DP 3NR 1AM                                                                            
04/03/23       (S)       DP: OLSON, HOFFMAN, KIEHL                                                                              
04/03/23       (S)       NR: STEDMAN, MERRICK, BISHOP                                                                           
04/03/23       (S)       AM: WILSON                                                                                             
04/03/23       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
04/03/23       (S)       Moved CSSB 12(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                    
04/03/23       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/24/23       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
04/24/23       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 12(JUD)                                                                                  
04/26/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/26/23       (H)       STA, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
05/04/23       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA WALTON, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Laddie Shaw                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave the explanation of changes for the                                                                  
proposed CS for HB 116, Version B, on behalf of Representative                                                                  
Shaw.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
EDRA MORLEDGE, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered closing remarks on CSHB 116(STA) on                                                              
behalf of Representative Coulombe, prime sponsor.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DELENA JOHNSON                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 118, as the prime sponsor.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SAVAYA BIEBER, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered introductory remarks on HB 118 on                                                                
behalf of Representative Johnson, prime sponsor.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR STEFANO, Owner                                                                                                           
CSI Protect AK                                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony during the hearing                                                                
on HB 118.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOWARD HANDLER                                                                                                                  
National Insurance Crime and Borough                                                                                            
Chicago, Illinois                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Gave invited  testimony during  the hearing                                                             
on HB 118.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ARTY FONOP, Owner                                                                                                               
Eagle Eye Secure Storage                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 118                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CORNELIUS SIMS, Captain                                                                                                         
Alaska State Troopers                                                                                                           
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing on HB
118.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PAM HALLORAN, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Administrative Services                                                                                             
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing on HB
118.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JESSE KIEHL                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Presented  CSSB  12(JUD),  as  the  prime                                                             
sponsor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KEELEY OLSON, Executive Director                                                                                                
Standing Together Against Rape                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Gave invited  testimony during  the hearing                                                             
on CSSB 12(JUD).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JODY REAUSAW, Business Agent                                                                                                    
Alaska Correctional Officers Association (ACOA)                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Gave invited  testimony during  the hearing                                                             
on CSSB 12(JUD).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUZI PEARSON, Executive Director                                                                                                
Abused Women's Aid in Crisis                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Gave invited  testimony during  the hearing                                                             
on CSSB 12(JUD).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LADDIE  SHAW  called  the  House  State  Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting to  order  at 3:07  p.m.   Representatives  C.                                                               
Johnson,  Allard, Story,  Wright, and  Shaw were  present at  the                                                               
call to  order.  Representatives Carpenter  and Armstrong arrived                                                               
as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
         HB 116-RESTORATIVE JUSTICE ACCT APPROPRIATIONS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:08:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  116, "An Act relating to  appropriations from the                                                               
restorative justice account."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:08:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 116,  Version 33-LS0602\B, Nauman, 5/2/23,                                                               
as the work draft.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:09:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA WALTON,  Staff, Representative  Laddie Shaw,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  on behalf  of Representative  Shaw, summarized  the                                                               
changes in the proposed CS for  HB 116 [included in the committee                                                               
packet], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The House  State Affairs Committee presents  a proposed                                                                    
     work draft  of CS  for House Bill  116 (STA);  the work                                                                    
     draft is labeled as work order 33-LS0602\B.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In the  work draft,  the House State  Affairs Committee                                                                    
     has made the following changes  to House Bill 116 (work                                                                    
     order 33-LS-0602\A):                                                                                                       
     •  A change  to the  title to  more precisely  indicate                                                                    
     "grants and  costs funded  by" the  restorative justice                                                                    
     account.                                                                                                                   
     •  The   addition  of  a   new  Section   1,  providing                                                                    
     legislative     intent    language     regarding    the                                                                    
     establishment of a public  safety initiative to prevent                                                                    
     domestic violence and sexual assault.                                                                                      
      • Providing an effective date for the Act of July 1,                                                                      
     2024.                                                                                                                      
     • Conforming title and numbering changes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHAW  removed  his  objection.   There  being  no  further                                                               
objection, Version B was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:10:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT  moved to  report  CSHB  116, Version  33-                                                               
LS0602\B,  Nauman,  5/2/23,  out  of  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection, CSHB  116(STA) was reported out of  the House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:11:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDRA  MORLEDGE,  Staff,  Representative  Julie  Coulombe,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  on behalf  of Representative  Coulombe, prime                                                               
sponsor, thanked the committee for hearing the bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:11:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          HB 118-CATALYTIC COVERTERS: SALE/POSSESSION                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:12:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  118, "An Act relating to the  sale and possession                                                               
of  used  detached  catalytic converters;  and  establishing  the                                                               
crime  of  possession,  sale,  or purchase  of  a  used  detached                                                               
catalytic converter."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:13:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DELENA JOHNSON,  Alaska State  Legislature, prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented   HB  118.    She   paraphrased  the  sponsor                                                               
statement  [included  in the  committee  packet],  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Since  the  beginning of  the  pandemic,  the theft  of                                                                    
     catalytic  converters from  vehicles  has soared.  Auto                                                                    
     insurers  are  publishing   warnings  as  they  process                                                                    
     millions of dollars in losses.  In between the years of                                                                    
     2019  and 2022,  the  National  Insurance Crime  Bureau                                                                    
     (NICB) had  seen a catalytic  converter theft  spike of                                                                    
     over 1,200%.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     According to  the NICB, in  2019, only  3,389 catalytic                                                                    
     converter  thefts were  reported  nationwide. In  2020,                                                                    
     the  reported number  spiked to  14,433.  In 2021,  the                                                                    
     number  went up  to 65,400,  and in  2022, the  numbers                                                                    
     skyrocketed up  to 153,000 reported  stolen converters.                                                                    
     It is  important to note  that these numbers  only come                                                                    
     from reported policyholders'  claims. These numbers are                                                                    
     considered very underreported for two reasons;                                                                             
     1)  the  amount of  people  without  car insurance  who                                                                    
     cannot file a claim; and,                                                                                                  
     2) if  a police  report was  made before  the insurance                                                                    
     claim, it  was officially documented under  missing car                                                                    
     parts, not specific to catalytic converter theft.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Thirty-two  states  have  adopted or  amended  laws  to                                                                    
     combat catalytic  converter theft,  and 11  more states                                                                    
     are anticipated  to at  least introduce  legislation to                                                                    
     combat  thefts,  by requiring  identifying  information                                                                    
     for anyone trying to sell used catalytic converters.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 118 gives  statutory authority to Alaska law                                                                    
     enforcement   to  charge   and  prosecute   individuals                                                                    
     unlawfully  possessing  used catalytic  converters.  It                                                                    
     also  requires  businesses and  individuals  purchasing                                                                    
     used  catalytic  converters  to document  and  maintain                                                                    
     information about  persons possessing and  selling used                                                                    
     catalytic converters to said business.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAVAYA  BIEBER,  Staff,  Representative  DeLena  Johnson,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  gave  introductory  remarks on  HB  118,  on                                                               
behalf  of Representative  Johnson,  prime sponsor.   She  stated                                                               
that  the bill  would  add statutory  language  to require  scrap                                                               
metal dealers  to register with  the Department of  Public Safety                                                               
(DPS) prior  to purchasing a  used detached  catalytic converter.                                                               
Should the  bill pass, scrap  metal dealers would be  required to                                                               
maintain  a  paper  or electronic  record  of  transactions  that                                                               
included time,  location, and proof of  an in-person transaction.                                                               
Scrap  metal dealers  would be  required  to keep  record of  the                                                               
registry for five  years, she added.   Furthermore, dealers would                                                               
be required  to make their  records available to  law enforcement                                                               
during regular business hours.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:17:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW opened invited testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:17:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR STEFANO, Owner, CSI Protect  AK, gave invited testimony on                                                               
HB 118.   He reported  that Oregon  law enforcement has  busted a                                                               
14-man multistate  crime ring  with 54,000  catalytic converters.                                                               
He  expressed the  understanding that  the lucrative  underground                                                               
market had existed  because of a lack of regulations.   He shared                                                               
that CSI Protect  AK has etched identifiers  into metal catalytic                                                               
converters,  and  the  marked   catalytic  converters  have  been                                                               
registered into a global database used  in over 33 countries.  He                                                               
stated  that  law  enforcement  has  been  given  access  to  the                                                               
database,  thereby allowing  stolen converters  to be  identified                                                               
and traced back to their owners.   He cited Section 4 of the bill                                                               
and recommended  changing the  class A misdemeanor  to a  class C                                                               
felony,  as  this would  deter  bad  actors and  prevent  further                                                               
"clogging" of  the judicial system.   Additionally,  he suggested                                                               
including a definition  of "mechanic" in the  bill, as referenced                                                               
in Section 5.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:28:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOWARD  HANDLER, National  Insurance  Crime  and Borough  (NICB),                                                               
gave invited  testimony on  HB 118.   He presented  the following                                                               
prepared remarks [copy included in the committee packet]:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  National  Insurance  Crime   Bureau  (NICB)  is  a                                                                    
     national,   century-old,  not-for-profit   organization                                                                    
     supported by approximately  1,200 property and casualty                                                                    
     insurance companies, including  many who write business                                                                    
     in  Alaska.   Working  hand-in-hand  with   our  member                                                                    
     companies and  Alaska state and local  law enforcement,                                                                    
     we  help  to  detect,   prevent,  and  deter  insurance                                                                    
     crimes, including vehicle theft.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Catalytic  converter theft  has  skyrocketed in  recent                                                                    
     years in part due to  the significant rise in the price                                                                    
     of   various   precious  metals,   including   rhodium,                                                                    
     platinum,   and  palladium.   All  are   used  in   the                                                                    
     construction  of  catalytic converters.  Criminals  are                                                                    
     seizing the  opportunity to profit off  these increased                                                                    
     prices  by   removing  the  catalytic   converter  from                                                                    
     vehicles    in  relatively easy  fashion    and selling                                                                    
     the  stolen part  on the  black  market. The  component                                                                    
     precious  metals can  be  recycled  into new  products.                                                                    
     Nationally,  catalytic   converter  thefts   more  than                                                                    
     quadrupled  from  3,389  in 2019  to  14,433  in  2020.                                                                    
     Thefts jumped dramatically yet again  to over 52,000 in                                                                    
     2021, an increase of 1,215% since 2019.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Additionally,   installing   a  replacement   catalytic                                                                    
     converter  can  cost   thousands  of  dollars.  Because                                                                    
     thieves  try to  remove  the converters  as quickly  as                                                                    
     possible,  their hastiness  often causes  higher repair                                                                    
     costs  due to  incidental damage.  Moreover, businesses                                                                    
     with large vehicle fleets,  such as vehicle dealerships                                                                    
     or  utility companies,  are often  targeted due  to the                                                                    
     number of potential marks in  a small area. Thefts from                                                                    
     commercial carriers  can lead  to replacement  costs in                                                                    
     excess of tens of  thousands of dollars, and additional                                                                    
     lost revenue due to halted operations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill  118  seeks  to  curb  catalytic  converter                                                                    
     thefts   by,   among    other   things:   criminalizing                                                                    
     possession of  a used  catalytic converters  in certain                                                                    
     instances;   limiting  purchases   of  used   catalytic                                                                    
     converters  to   scrap  metal  dealers;   and  imposing                                                                    
     certain  record  keeping  requirements on  scrap  metal                                                                    
     dealers. This bill will  help deter catalytic converter                                                                    
     thefts by  discouraging illegal secondary  market sales                                                                    
     and providing  law enforcement with  additional records                                                                    
     to help investigate cases.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Accordingly, we  respectfully request your  support for                                                                    
     HB 118                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     We  thank   you  for  scheduling  a   hearing  and  for                                                                    
     considering our  views as you deliberate  the merits of                                                                    
     this bill.  We strongly  encourage you to  utilize NICB                                                                    
     as  a  resource  and  partner   in  the  fight  against                                                                    
     catalytic converter  theft. If  you have  any questions                                                                    
     or need  additional information,  please contact  me at                                                                    
     [email protected] or 847-544-7083.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW opened public testimony on HB 118.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:33:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ARTY  FONOP,  Owner,  Eagle  Eye  Secure  Storage,  testified  in                                                               
support  of HB  118.    He stated  that  he  has been  personally                                                               
affected by catalytic converter  theft and shared his experience,                                                               
noting that the ability to turn  the devices into cash has fueled                                                               
the crime.  He explained that  scrap dealers do not require proof                                                               
of  ownership from  customers,  and this  is  problematic if  the                                                               
converters are stolen.   He shared the belief  that every vehicle                                                               
owner in Anchorage would benefit from the passage of HB 118.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony  on HB 118.  He sought                                                               
questions from committee members.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY directed attention to  page 4, line 7 of the                                                               
bill and asked how DPS's  central registry of scrap metal dealers                                                               
would work.  She asked  whether an educational component would be                                                               
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:37:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIEBER directed the question to the department.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:38:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CORNELIUS  SIMS, Captain,  Alaska State  Troopers, Department  of                                                               
Public   Safety  (DPS),   acknowledged   the   necessity  of   an                                                               
educational component for the scrap  metal dealers.  He suggested                                                               
that  an online  registry could  be developed,  in addition  to a                                                               
paper form option that could be mailed into the department.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  sought to confirm that  scrap metal dealers                                                               
would be statutorily required to keep a separate registry.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PAM  HALLORAN,  Director,  Division of  Administrative  Services,                                                               
Department of Public  Safety, referred to the  fiscal note, which                                                               
indicated  that  DPS  would  need to  develop  and  implement  an                                                               
application to develop a central  registry for persons engaged in                                                               
the  business  of purchasing  the  converters.   She  shared  her                                                               
understanding  that  law  enforcement would  engage  with  people                                                               
purchasing the  converters while  the department would  build and                                                               
develop the registry.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:40:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  SIMS, in  response  to  Representative Story,  confirmed                                                               
that law enforcement would develop  a registry separate from that                                                               
of the scrap metal dealers.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW requested an explanation of the fiscal note.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALLORAN  reported that the  fiscal note reflected  an amount                                                               
of $141,700  in 2024 and $123,300  in 2025, and this  would be to                                                               
create a criminal justice specialist  position, who would develop                                                               
and maintain the new database.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked whether  there would be a registration                                                               
fee.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALLORAN responded that the fees have not been discussed.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  asked why  the bill stipulated  a five-year                                                               
timeframe for record retention.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HALLORAN  offered   to  follow   up   with  the   requested                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:43:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  referred to  the exclusions  in Section                                                               
5, subsection (c)(2) of the  bill.  He asked what "documentation"                                                               
referred  to  and whether  a  receipt  and registration  for  the                                                               
vehicle  from  which  the catalytic  converter  came  from  would                                                               
suffice.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALLORAN deferred to Captain Sims.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:44:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN SIMS expressed uncertainty.   He shared his understanding                                                               
that  a  used catalytic  converter  would  not  be added  to  the                                                               
registry if  the person turning  it in for profit  provided proof                                                               
of ownership.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY expressed  her concern  about criminalizing                                                               
the possession of a detached catalytic converter.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:47:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  asked how the ownership  of a catalytic                                                               
converter could be  proven with documentation, per  Section 5 and                                                               
Section 3 of the bill.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN SIMS expressed uncertainty.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C. JOHNSON  referred  to the  testimony from  Mr.                                                               
Stefano  who owned  a company  that tagged  catalytic converters.                                                               
Additionally,  she  reported  that current  carmakers  place  the                                                               
vehicle identification number (VIN) on catalytic converters.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:51:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER asked  whether the  theft of  catalytic                                                               
converters could  be prevented by  prohibiting the sale  of these                                                               
converters to scrapyards.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  D. JOHNSON  suggested  that the  crime was  often                                                               
"drug inspired."   She  said the legislation  is modeled  after a                                                               
bill in  Tennessee, and the intent  is to provide a  tool for law                                                               
enforcement.  She acknowledged  that Representative Carpenter has                                                               
identified an issue that requires further examination.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:54:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  asked whether  DPS could  provide statewide                                                               
rates of catalytic converter theft.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:54:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW announced that HB 118 would be held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:55:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
             SB  12-ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:56:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
CS FOR  SENATE BILL NO. 12(JUD),  "An Act relating to  the duties                                                               
of  the   Department  of  Administration;  creating   an  address                                                               
confidentiality program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:57:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  JESSE KIEHL,  Alaska State  Legislature, prime  sponsor,                                                               
presented  CSSB 12(JUD).   He  paraphrased the  sponsor statement                                                               
[included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB  12  creates  an   address  protection  program  for                                                                    
     victims of sexual assault  and domestic violence, peace                                                                    
     officers   and   correctional   officers,   and   their                                                                    
     families.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska is one  of only nine states without  any form of                                                                    
     address  protection  program.  They are  so  widespread                                                                    
     because they  are essential. A person  needs an address                                                                    
     to  vote, drive,  work, send  children  to school,  and                                                                    
     much  more. When  that  address shows  up  in a  public                                                                    
     record,  an Alaskan  seeking safety  from a  stalker or                                                                    
     abuser  faces  unnecessary  danger. So  do  Alaska  law                                                                    
     enforcement   professionals   who   face   threats   of                                                                    
     retribution.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     An address  protection program  gives those  Alaskans a                                                                    
     tool to stay safe.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Under SB  12, the  state would keep  a Post  Office Box                                                                    
     and  confidentially forward  mail  to  Alaskans with  a                                                                    
     protective  order,  public  safety  professionals,  and                                                                    
     their families. Victims and  those protecting our state                                                                    
     deserve the chance to live safely.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  noted that Representative  Armstrong is  sponsoring a                                                               
companion bill  in the  House.   He invited her  to speak  on the                                                               
proposed legislation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:02:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG  highlighted the  need for the  bill due                                                               
to the high  rate of domestic violence and sexual  assault in the                                                               
state.   In Alaska, she  reported that  more women are  killed by                                                               
men per  capita compared to any  other state.  She  further noted                                                               
that Alaska is  one of nine states without  an address protection                                                               
program.   She described  safety as one  of the  most fundamental                                                               
human  needs,  adding  that  the bill  would  provide  safety  to                                                               
Alaskans  and   law  enforcement  officials  facing   threats  of                                                               
retribution.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW inquired about the fiscal note.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  spoke to  the fiscal note  from the  Department of                                                               
Administration (DOA),  which includes a one-time  cost of $50,000                                                               
for  startup   expenses,  followed  by  $375,000   for  operating                                                               
expenses in subsequent years.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW opened invited testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:06:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEELEY  OLSON,  Executive  Director,  Standing  Together  Against                                                               
Rape, gave invited testimony during  the hearing on CSSB 12(JUD).                                                               
She read  the following  prepared remarks  [copy included  in the                                                               
committee packet]:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Thank  you  for  sponsoring  this  important  piece  of                                                                    
     legislation  and  thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to                                                                    
     comment in  favor of an Alaska  Address Confidentiality                                                                    
     Program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Prior to working at STAR,  I was a Victim Advocate with                                                                    
     a  Prosecuting Attorney's  Office in  Washington State.                                                                    
     Washington's  Address  Confidentiality Program  was  an                                                                    
     essential  tool  used  by Victim  Advocates  to  assist                                                                    
     someone with high lethality risk  to be safer. Combined                                                                    
     with  comprehensive safety  planning  and an  emergency                                                                    
     relocation plan,  and done in a  very particular order,                                                                    
     the  Address Confidentiality  Program  was a  lifesaver                                                                    
     for more than a few of my clients.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     While the  program was  accessible and  easy to  use, I                                                                    
     did  not see  the program  being used  in inappropriate                                                                    
     ways, and  never heard  of it being  a burden  on State                                                                    
     Administrators.  Address  Confidentiality Programs  are                                                                    
     currently available  in up to forty  states nationwide,                                                                    
     at  no  cost  to   enrollees,  which  is  an  important                                                                    
     consideration  for those  sometimes-fleeing abuse  with                                                                    
     little access to funds. I  recall there were avenues to                                                                    
     accessing the Washington  program without the necessity                                                                    
     of a current civil protective  order being in place, so                                                                    
     I do advocate for  additional paths being available for                                                                    
     those  who feel  endangered  by seeking  such orders  -                                                                    
     such as  criminal no  contact orders,  current criminal                                                                    
     charges,  criminal  history and/or  supporting  letters                                                                    
     from Crime Victim Advocates.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     I  also  know  law enforcement  officers  and  District                                                                    
     Attorneys  who use  public and  private  names and  put                                                                    
     their owned real  and personal property in  a spouse or                                                                    
     family member's  name to protect their  addresses, so I                                                                    
     can appreciate  the reason for the  inclusion of public                                                                    
     servants serving in law enforcement as well.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     I appreciate the opportunity to  testify and comment in                                                                    
     support  of SB  12.  Thank  you for  all  your work  to                                                                    
     increase  safety  for  victims  of  domestic  violence,                                                                    
     sexual assault, and stalking.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:11:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JODY  REAUSAW,  Business   Agent,  Alaska  Correctional  Officers                                                               
Association (ACOA), gave invited  testimony during the hearing on                                                               
CSSB  12(JUD).   She expressed  ACOA's  support for  the bill  to                                                               
protect survivors of sexual assault  and domestic violence across                                                               
the  state, as  well as  law enforcement  officers.   She relayed                                                               
correctional  officers'  concerns  about keeping  their  families                                                               
safe and  their information  private; nonetheless,  she suspected                                                               
that a  low percentage  of officers would  take advantage  of the                                                               
program.   Ultimately,  she opined  that the  bill would  provide                                                               
peace of mind and another tool for officer safety.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:14:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUZI PEARSON,  Executive Director,  Abused Women's Aid  in Crisis                                                               
(AWAIC),  gave  invited  testimony  during the  hearing  on  CSSB
12(JUD).   She reported that  victims often change  their address                                                               
to  AWAIC's  address,  which  has   become  the  "warehouse"  for                                                               
victim's  mail.    she stated  that  many  high-risk  individuals                                                               
choose to keep their mailing  address at AWAIC, even after moving                                                               
from the  shelter to  keep their location  private.   She pointed                                                               
out  that the  bill would  provide  access to  a safe,  long-term                                                               
resource for victims; furthermore,  it would allow victims access                                                               
to  services without  organizations  connecting  them to  AWAIC's                                                               
services,  should  they  choose  to  remain  confidential.    She                                                               
reiterated AWAIC's support for the bill, as drafted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHAW opened  public testimony.    After ascertaining  that                                                               
there  was  no one  who  wished  to  testify, [he  closed  public                                                               
testimony].                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:16:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY   asked  whether   the  bill   sponsor  had                                                               
considered including judges and attorneys in the legislation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  said he  had  considered  including a  number  of                                                               
groups.   He  explained that  the bill,  as drafted,  went beyond                                                               
similar legislation  in other states by  including peace officers                                                               
and correctional officers.   He noted that he has  not received a                                                               
request from  the Alaska  Court System or  the Department  of Law                                                               
(DOL) to expand the bill; however,  they could be included in the                                                               
future if a need arose.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW announced that CSSB 12(JUD) would be held over.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:19:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee  meeting was adjourned  at 4:19                                                               
p.m.