Legislature(2019 - 2020)GRUENBERG 120

04/16/2019 03:00 PM STATE AFFAIRS

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03:04:54 PM Start
03:05:42 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
03:05:59 PM Department of Public Safety, Commissioner
04:17:05 PM Lieutenant Governor Successor
04:18:52 PM Chief Administrative Law Judge
04:19:36 PM Alaska State Commission for Human Rights|| Alaska Department of Corrections Parole Board|| Alaska State Personnel Board|| Alaska Public Offices Commission|| Alaska Police Standard Council
04:23:20 PM HB50|| HB51
04:57:08 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
-Lieutenant Governor Successor, Dr. Michael
Johnson
-Chief Administrative Law Judge, Kathleen
Frederick
-State Commission for Human Rights
-State Board of Parole
-Personnel Board
-Alaska Public Offices Commission
-Alaska Police Standards Council
+= HB 51 PROBATION; PAROLE; SENTENCES; CREDITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 50 ARREST;RELEASE;SENTENCING;PROBATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Commissioner Amanda Price, Dept. of Public Safety
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 16, 2019                                                                                         
                           3:04 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
Representative Laddie Shaw                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins, Co-Chair                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lora Reinbold                                                                                                           
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
Representative Kelly Merrick                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Department of Public Safety, Commissioner                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Amanda Price - Anchorage                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Lieutenant Governor Successor                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Dr. Michael Johnson - Juneau                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chief Administrative Law Judge                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Kathleen Frederick - Palmer                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska State Commission for Human Rights                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Marcus Sanders - Anchorage                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Department of Corrections Parole Board                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Edie Grunwald - Palmer                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska State Personnel Board                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Craig Johnson - Anchorage                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Public Offices Commission                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Suzanne Hancock - Anchorage                                                                                                
     James McDermott - Fairbanks                                                                                                
     Rick Stillie - Delta Junction                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Stephen Dutra - North Pole                                                                                                 
     Rebecca Hamon - King Salmon                                                                                                
     Burke Waldron - Bethel                                                                                                     
     Joseph White - Ketchikan                                                                                                   
     Jennifer Winkelman - Juneau                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 50                                                                                                               
"An  Act relating  to pretrial  release; relating  to sentencing;                                                               
relating  to  treatment  program   credit  toward  service  of  a                                                               
sentence  of  imprisonment;  relating to  electronic  monitoring;                                                               
amending  Rules   38.2  and  45(d),  Alaska   Rules  of  Criminal                                                               
Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 51                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to probation; relating to a program allowing                                                                   
probationers to earn credits for complying with the conditions                                                                  
of  probation;  relating  to   early  termination  of  probation;                                                               
relating to  parole; relating to  a program allowing  parolees to                                                               
earn  credits  for  complying  with  the  conditions  of  parole;                                                               
relating to early termination of  parole; relating to eligibility                                                               
for discretionary  parole; relating  to good time;  and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 50                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: ARREST;RELEASE;SENTENCING;PROBATION                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/20/19       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/20/19       (H)       STA, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
03/19/19       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/19/19       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/19/19       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
04/16/19       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 51                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: PROBATION; PAROLE; SENTENCES; CREDITS                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/20/19       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/20/19       (H)       STA, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
03/19/19       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/19/19       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
04/11/19       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
04/11/19       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
04/16/19       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA PRICE                                                                                                                    
Commissioner Designee                                                                                                           
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointed commissioner of the                                                               
Department of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KATHERYN MONFREDA, Chief                                                                                                        
Criminal Records                                                                                                                
Division of Statewide Services (DSS)                                                                                            
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the confirmation                                                             
hearing on Commissioner Price.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Michael Duxbury, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                            
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions during  the confirmation                                                             
hearing on Commissioner Price.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. MICHAEL JOHNSON, Commissioner                                                                                               
Alaska  Department  of  Education  &  Early  Development  (DEED),                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Testified  as  the  appointed  Lieutenant                                                             
Governor Successor.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SKIDMORE, Director                                                                                                         
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law (DOL)                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented HB  51  on behalf  of the  House                                                             
Rules Standing Committee, sponsor, by request of the governor.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
KATIE BOTZ                                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified during  the hearing on HB  50 and                                                             
HB 51.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LYNETTE CLARK, Chair                                                                                                            
Alaska Independence Party                                                                                                       
Fox, Alaska                                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 50 and HB 51.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NORIA CLARK                                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified during  the hearing on HB  50 and                                                             
HB 51.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BERT HOUGHTALING                                                                                                                
Big Lake, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 50 and HB 51.                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:04:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZACK FIELDS  called the  House  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  3:05 p.m.  Representatives LeDoux,                                                               
Story,  Vance, Shaw,  and  Fields  were present  at  the call  to                                                               
order.    Representative  Wool  arrived as  the  meeting  was  in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
3:05:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be confirmation hearings.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Department of Public Safety, Commissioner                                                                                      
           Department of Public Safety, Commissioner                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:05:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW  stated  the  following as  the  reason  and                                                               
justification  for  his  questioning:   "Personal  integrity  and                                                               
highest measure of character are an  essential part of the job of                                                               
the chief administrative  officer of DPS.   The position requires                                                               
that one be  above reproach and a viable extension  of the public                                                               
safety  community.     As  a  state  representative,   it  is  my                                                               
responsibility to represent my district  and the State of Alaska.                                                               
Additionally,  two areas  that I  have been  tasked to  represent                                                               
because of my work history  on military and veterans' affairs and                                                               
public safety.  As a former  director for police standards it was                                                               
my  specific responsibility  to show  due diligence  in reviewing                                                               
backgrounds and qualifications.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW  asked Commissioner  Price whether she  has a                                                               
college degree.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA PRICE, Commissioner Designee,  Department of Public Safety                                                               
(DPS) answered, no.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW asked her to  give a brief description of her                                                               
academic  performance and  to explain  why she  did not  pursue a                                                               
final degree.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  replied that she graduated  high school quite                                                               
early, attended college at age 17  to age 19, and was working two                                                               
jobs to pay for  school.  She was the first  person in her family                                                               
to  attend college,  and it  was not  a priority  for her  at the                                                               
time.   She felt obligated to  attend college and was  working to                                                               
do so,  but simply didn't  have the money  to continue.   She was                                                               
offered a position,  which she accepted; it presented  her a good                                                               
salary, and  she came from  a low-income  family.  She  said that                                                               
she doesn't recall her grade  point average, but since school was                                                               
not a priority, she suspects that it was not good.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW  asked the commissioner  whether she  has any                                                               
criminal justice or management education or training.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   PRICE   stated   that   she   attended   and   has                                                               
certifications from  several trainings:   by-stander intervention                                                               
training;  neurobiology  of  trauma relating  to  sexual  assault                                                               
investigation;  practice   and  investigative  protocols.     She                                                               
mentioned   that    she   has   no   police    officer   training                                                               
certifications.  She  said that in her 20-plus  years of service,                                                               
her employers  provided her with training  opportunities; she has                                                               
attended many  management institutes  and earned  many management                                                               
certificates.  She can provide a list of the trainings.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW asked for confirmation  that she holds no law                                                               
enforcement or  administrative training certification  related to                                                               
law enforcement.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE answered no.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW asked  Commissioner Price  to highlight  the                                                               
specific training certification related  to domestic violence and                                                               
sexual assault  that she received  for her position  as executive                                                               
director of Standing Together Against Rape (STAR).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE relayed that  initially she attended a 40-hour                                                               
mandatory training  on responding to domestic  violence survivors                                                               
and  sexual assault  survivors; she  secured additional  training                                                               
through  the National  Criminal Justice  Association (NCJA);  she                                                               
attended  the  International  Association  of  Chiefs  of  Police                                                               
training on sexual assault response  team protocols and policies.                                                               
She said that  she attended trainings from  other conferences and                                                               
could provide the committee with a list.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW asked  her  if she  presently  has any  debt                                                               
collection judgements against her or has had any against her.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  explained that  due to a  financial hardship,                                                               
she did have some collection issues, but does not currently.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW  asked  whether   she  had  one  foreclosure                                                               
judgement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE  replied  that  she  did.    In  response  to                                                               
Representative Shaw,  she confirmed  that she  did not  have more                                                               
than one.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:10:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW referred  to  Commissioner Price's  previous                                                               
testimony   [4/4/19  House   State  Affairs   Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting],  when in  response to  the question  of why  a seasoned                                                               
trooper  would  not   be  a  better  fit  for   the  position  of                                                               
commissioner, she had commented  that troopers make good troopers                                                               
but  not necessarily  good managers.    He informed  Commissioner                                                               
Price that  a trooper  who advanced within  DPS will  more likely                                                               
than not  be required  to attend  a first-line  supervisor course                                                               
and the  Federal Bureau of  Investigation (FBI)  National Academy                                                               
(NA).   The  FBI  NA is  the law  enforcement  equivalent of  the                                                               
Harvard School  of Business.   He  added that the  FBI NA  is the                                                               
highest  level of  law enforcement  training  for management  and                                                               
leadership.   He  relayed that  a trooper  called him  to express                                                               
that  he  was  offended  by  Commissioner  Price's  comment;  the                                                               
trooper mentioned that he was valedictorian of his FBI NA class.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW  asked Commissioner  Price how she  chose her                                                               
senior staff.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  replied that  Colonel Doug  Massie [Director,                                                               
Division of  Alaska Wildlife Troopers  (AWT)] was  recommended to                                                               
her  by   [then]  Governor-elect   [Michael  J.]   Dunleavy;  she                                                               
interviewed  him  and  found  that   his  experience,  length  of                                                               
service,  and knowledge  was what  she needed  for the  position.                                                               
She  stated  that Colonel  Barry  Wilson  [Director, Division  of                                                               
Alaska  State   Troopers  (AST)]   was  one  of   several  people                                                               
interviewed; she  sought input from existing  leaders within DPS;                                                               
she  did  offer  the  position  of colonel  to  both  majors  who                                                               
succeeded Colonel Wilson  in rank prior to making  him the offer.                                                               
She believed  Colonel Barry to  have the necessary  experience to                                                               
improve  response  to  issues of  sexual  assault  and  violence,                                                               
particularly  in  Western  Alaska.     She  relayed  that  Deputy                                                               
Commissioner  Michael Duxbury  was recommended  by the  governor-                                                               
elect's  office; he  has "out-of-the-box"  thinking to  accompany                                                               
his 30-year tenure to complement the information she lacks.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW asked Commissioner Price whether she micro-                                                                 
manages her senior staff.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE responded no.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:13:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX referred  to a  letter [dated  4/15/19 and                                                               
included in  the committee packet] from  Kathryn Monfreda [Chief,                                                               
Criminal Records, Division of Statewide  Services (DSS), DPS] and                                                               
asked whether there are various levels of security clearances.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  answered yes.  The  FBI has a Top  Secret and                                                               
Sensitive Compartmented  Information (TS/SCI)  security clearance                                                               
for the U.S. Department of  Defense (DoD) and the U.S. Department                                                               
of Homeland Security  (DHS).  The letter in the  packet refers to                                                               
the  Criminal   Justice  Information  Services   (CJIS)  security                                                               
clearance, secured by  the commissioner of DPS; it  says that she                                                               
passed  the   CJIS  background  check  which   provides  her  the                                                               
opportunity  to  access  confidential  law  enforcement  specific                                                               
criminal justice information.  The  background check is performed                                                               
through  the  FBI and  state  databases;  it reviews  hot  files,                                                               
warrants, sexual offenses, and anything  criminal in nature.  She                                                               
said that the CJIS clearance  is required for the commissioner of                                                               
DPS; it  was held by  the prior two commissioners  - Commissioner                                                               
Walt Monegan and Commissioner Gary Folger.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked  whether  Commissioner  Monegan  or                                                               
Commissioner Folger held any additional security clearances.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE replied no.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:15:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE referred to  Commissioner Price's resume and                                                               
asked what she did prior to 2000.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  answered that she graduated  from high school                                                               
in 1993; she  worked at miscellaneous jobs  while putting herself                                                               
through school;  the lucrative  job offer  she accepted  when she                                                               
was about 20  years old was as an assistant  manager of a jewelry                                                               
store; and at  age 21 or 22  she accepted a job  for the Muscular                                                               
Dystrophy Association (MDA).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  asked whether  she owned any  businesses of                                                               
her own.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE replied,  "Yes I did."  She  relayed that from                                                               
2009-2012, she owned  a small baby boutique called  "Spoiled" - a                                                               
maternity and baby specialty item shop.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE   asked  why  she  did   not  continue  the                                                               
business.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE responded  that the  retail climate  changed;                                                               
small businesses struggled.  It  enjoyed moderate success when it                                                               
first opened  but struggled due  to competition from  large chain                                                               
stores.  She said that a  month after she closed the business her                                                               
husband suffered an accident while on duty.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE offered  that  Commissioner Price's  resume                                                               
indicates   that   she   was   involved   with   volunteer-driven                                                               
organizations and was a mom with  a baby boutique.  She asked the                                                               
commissioner to describe what drives her  and who she is, so that                                                               
the committee can determine whether she will fit the position.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE said  that  first  she is  a  mom with  three                                                               
children.   She stated  that she learned  from the  positions she                                                               
has  held  to  administer  grants,  to  manage  personnel,  basic                                                               
managerial components, to oversee  the resources of a significant                                                               
agency, to work  with the legislature, and to  interface with the                                                               
Congressional delegation  on legislative  issues.  She  was given                                                               
tools  but didn't  know for  what purpose  the toolbox  was being                                                               
created.   She  maintained that  her most  significant experience                                                               
relating  to  her  role  as  commissioner  of  DPS  came  through                                                               
engaging  with  Special  Victim's Unit  (SVU)  [Anchorage  Police                                                               
Department  (APD)] and  the Crimes  Against Children  Unit (CACU)                                                               
[APD].  She relayed that she  comes from a very low-income family                                                               
with  very few  financial opportunities;  she was  carving out  a                                                               
path for herself;  she followed the non-profit  path because that                                                               
was  where her  heart  was -  specifically  bringing services  to                                                               
rural communities.   She said that it wasn't until  she worked at                                                               
Standing Together  Against Rape (STAR) that  she truly understood                                                               
what drove  her, and what  drove her was stopping  and responding                                                               
to sexual  violence in Alaska  communities.   She saw a  need for                                                               
collaboration  and  multidisciplinary  units -  police  officers,                                                               
forensic nursing, and  Office of Children's Services  (OCS) - and                                                               
was able to  bring these groups together  to work collaboratively                                                               
to develop effective response.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  acknowledged that she has  made some mistakes                                                               
during the  confirmation hearing process;  it is new to  her; and                                                               
she   has  learned   that  engaging   with  the   legislature  as                                                               
commissioner is quite  different from engaging with it  as a non-                                                               
profit  advocate.   She  concluded by  saying  that she  believes                                                               
herself to be  a skilled but ready-to-learn leader who  is in the                                                               
right place  at the right  time with  the right support  from the                                                               
department to affect significant change in the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE stated that  there have been inconsistencies                                                               
with  minor portions  of the  commissioner's testimony  that have                                                               
created  questions; the  committee  is looking  for accurate  and                                                               
consistent information.    She asked Commissioner  Price to speak                                                               
to  the  mistakes that  she  acknowledged  to  have made  in  the                                                               
confirmation process.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  responded that  her biggest mistake  was made                                                               
while discussing  her departure  from the [Governor  Bill] Walker                                                               
administration.   She maintained  that she  did not  consider her                                                               
testimony  to  be  inconsistent   but  understands  that  it  was                                                               
perceived to  be such.    She expressed her belief  that when she                                                               
shared  her concerns  about  Senate Bill  91  [passed during  the                                                               
Twenty-Ninth  Alaska  State  Legislature, 2015-2016,  and  signed                                                               
into  law 7/11/16]  she  saw a  shift  in the  way  her work  was                                                               
received, approved,  and accepted  by the administration.   Given                                                               
that no other  input or feedback had been shared  with her by any                                                               
member  of  the administration,  she  assumed  that it  was  that                                                               
matter that  caused the  breach.   She offered  that she  did not                                                               
articulate that  point clearly; she  does not view  the testimony                                                               
as inconsistent but as lacking the full picture.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:23:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW referred  to  Commissioner  Price's lack  of                                                               
training  and education  for  the  jobs she  has  held and  asked                                                               
whether she received on-the-job training for most of them.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  answered that when she  accepted the position                                                               
of executive  director of  MDA -  at age 21  or 22  - she  had no                                                               
skills,  knowledge, understanding,  or ability  to step  into the                                                               
role.   The person who  hired her  was willing to  contribute his                                                               
time and  mentorship to teach and  guide her.  She  said that the                                                               
staff graciously  helped her to  be a manager; it  was on-the-job                                                               
training.  She  relayed that she performed a variety  of tasks in                                                               
many  different roles  and learned  the basic  management skills.                                                               
Every position she  held, regardless of the type  of the services                                                               
provided, required  a basic ability  to manage budget,  attend to                                                               
fiduciary obligations, appropriately  place resources, and manage                                                               
personnel.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW  asked  her   whether  she  feels  that  the                                                               
complexities of  DPS would put her  in a position of  needing on-                                                               
the-job training.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE responded yes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked   for  confirmation  that  [former]                                                               
Commissioner Walt  Monegan and [former] Commissioner  Gary had no                                                               
security  clearances other  than the  one Ms.  Monfreda told  the                                                               
committee that Commissioner Price has received.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE replied  that information  relayed to  her by                                                               
Leon  Morgan,  Alaska  Criminal Intelligence  Director,  and  Ms.                                                               
Monfreda indicates yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:27:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked for confirmation that  her testimony -                                                               
that her  departure from the  Walker administration was  a mutual                                                               
decision - was modified to her having been let go.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE   maintained  that  she  didn't   modify  her                                                               
testimony; she was  asked to resign.  She offered  that there was                                                               
such a brief conversation between  her and Scott Kendall, [former                                                               
chief of  staff for Governor  Walker] - with no  impetus, reason,                                                               
or   hostility.     She  already   knew  she   was  leaving   the                                                               
administration, either  she would resign  or be asked  to resign;                                                               
therefore, it  felt mutual.   She  acknowledged that  Mr. Kendall                                                               
did ask her to resign.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  referred  to   testimony  by  Marcia  Davis                                                               
[former deputy  chief of  staff for  Governor Walker]  during the                                                               
4/11/19  House  State  Affairs  Standing  Committee  confirmation                                                               
hearing, in  which she  stated that  Commissioner Price  was busy                                                               
"putting out  fires" and not  in her office.   He asked  for some                                                               
examples of what those situations were.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE  gave  the  example  of  the  Yukon-Kuskokwim                                                               
Health Corporation (YKHC) hospital  in Bethel, which discontinued                                                               
seeing sexual  assault survivors  in the sexual  assault response                                                               
facility.     She  was  notified   by  the  troopers,   who  were                                                               
transporting sexual assault survivors  to the hospital, that even                                                               
though the hospital had a  fully equipped sexual assault response                                                               
team and trained  personnel to respond and  collect evidence, the                                                               
hospital decided to  close the program due  to budgetary reasons.                                                               
The  victims  had to  travel  to  Anchorage  to  be seen  by  the                                                               
Anchorage  sexual assault  response team.   She  stated that  she                                                               
immediately flew  to Bethel and  spent considerable  time helping                                                               
YKHC  work  through  what  the policies  and  processes  were  in                                                               
partnership with AST.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE relayed  another  situation:   the crime  lab                                                               
audit  revealed  inconsistencies  with the  audit  findings;  she                                                               
spent considerable  time with crime  lab staff related  to sexual                                                               
assault  kit  initiatives and  at  the  crime lab  reviewing  the                                                               
findings,  recommendations, and  the timeline  for implementation                                                               
on the recommendations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  for  confirmation  that her  position                                                               
with the  Walker administration was  as policy analyst  or policy                                                               
advisor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  answered that she  was the senior  advisor on                                                               
criminal justice issues - sexual assault specifically.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL referred to her  testimony in the House State                                                               
Affairs  Standing Committee  hearing  [4/4/19] mentioning  Senate                                                               
Bill  91 as  a  source of  conflict between  her  and the  Walker                                                               
administration.   He  asked whether  she  discussed her  position                                                               
with the administration in order to reconcile the differences.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE said  that  she  did.   She  stated that  she                                                               
discussed  it  with [former  chief  of  staff] Jim  Whitaker  and                                                               
Governor Walker.   She referred  to a follow-up letter  [from Mr.                                                               
Whitaker and Ms.  Davis dated 4/12/19 [included  in the committee                                                               
packet] in  which he  states that  he remembers  the conversation                                                               
and agrees  that meeting  was when the  breach occurred  and when                                                               
the  governor  excluded  her  from  any  Senate  Bill  91-related                                                               
activities.   She clarified that  her concerns were  not specific                                                               
to  Senate Bill  91 but  getting  input from  the victim  service                                                               
agencies and  APD to the  legislative director of  the governor's                                                               
office and  the governor.   After that conversation, she  was not                                                               
to  have  any  participation  with the  Alaska  Criminal  Justice                                                               
Commission (ACJC) or involvement with Senate Bill 91.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:31:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  Commissioner  Price to  name the  big                                                               
issues right now  for the typical law enforcement  officer and to                                                               
identify what  needs to be  fixed immediately.   He asked  her to                                                               
give in specific  detail the top three issues that  would make an                                                               
officer's job easier and Alaska  safer, excluding recruitment and                                                               
retention of officers.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE  relayed the  issues  as  follows:   lack  of                                                               
adequate equipment,  lack of an  adequate replacement  and repair                                                               
process, gear that is not  working, challenges with communication                                                               
frequencies  and  communications  between AST  and  local  police                                                               
departments;  and internal  policy  and  process challenges  that                                                               
affect response.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated that he  is looking for policy issues.                                                               
He asked what policy she  would change through legislation if she                                                               
could.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   PRICE   answered,   "Drug   reclassification   and                                                               
resentencing."     She  said  that  the   governor  has  proposed                                                               
legislation to  change the drug classification  standards back to                                                               
what  they were  prior to  Senate Bill  91.   She explained  that                                                               
Senate Bill  91 took  a tool  away from  law enforcement:   being                                                               
able to charge offenders who  are self-abusing - not trafficking,                                                               
not distributing,  not selling,  and holding a  gram or  less [of                                                               
the drug]  - encourages  them to work  with law  enforcement; the                                                               
primary goal is  not to hold low-level  offenders accountable but                                                               
to get  the necessary  information as to  who is  trafficking the                                                               
drugs into  the community and  to find treatment options  for the                                                               
offender.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked for confirmation  that she is referring                                                               
to   the  proposed   legislation  that   would  make   first-time                                                               
possession  of a  small  quantity  of drugs  a  felony, with  the                                                               
intent  to  use  the  felony   to  leverage  information  from  a                                                               
defendant.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE replied  that the  drug enforcement  officers                                                               
have stated unequivocally that it is a tremendous tool for them.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked  for another example based  on what she                                                               
has learned so far on the job.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  stated that there is  proposed legislation to                                                               
close loopholes  in sexual  assault statutes;  ACJC and  DPS have                                                               
identified these  loopholes as gaps in  law enforcement's ability                                                               
to hold sex offenders accountable.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX   asked  whether  there  is   anything  in                                                               
Commissioner  Price's  background  that would  prevent  her  from                                                               
being hired as either a police officer or an AST.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE responded  that  based  on the  certification                                                               
requirements for  Alaska Police  Standards Council  (APSC), there                                                               
is not.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked, "Based on anything?"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE replied  no.   She said  that becoming  a law                                                               
enforcement  officer  is a  very  comprehensive  process; out  of                                                               
1,000  applicants, 18  successfully  complete the  process.   She                                                               
does not know if she would be one of them, if she applied.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked for confirmation that  the fact that                                                               
she  has  had  financial  difficulties  in  the  past  would  not                                                               
preclude her from a career as a trooper.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE stated  that  was accurate.    She said  that                                                               
financial  distress  is  a  challenge  that  many  Alaskans  face                                                               
including ASTs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   FIELDS  asked   Commissioner  Price   to  detail   the                                                               
background  investigative  process  that  she  experienced  since                                                               
being appointed as commissioner designee in December [2018].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE  replied  that   the  Division  of  Statewide                                                               
Services  (DSS) completes  a criminal  history that  includes hot                                                               
files, warrants, and Division of  Motor Vehicle (DMV) records; it                                                               
involves a  criminal investigative  process to  identify criminal                                                               
activity in her  history and the standard  state criminal history                                                               
background check.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked  who conducted the background  check on the                                                               
commissioner.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE  answered  that   it  was  performed  by  Ms.                                                               
Monfreda in DSS and Mr. Morgan.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS explained  that the CJIS background  check is not                                                               
the same  as a  law enforcement officer  background check;  it is                                                               
much  more  superficial.    He   asked  whether  she  has  had  a                                                               
background  check  equivalent to  one  for  AST, which  looks  at                                                               
financial  issues,  personal  integrity issues,  and  issues  for                                                               
which one could be subject to pressure or blackmail.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE expressed that she  believes that she did; she                                                               
took the advice  of the experts in the room  - Mr. Morgan, Deputy                                                               
Commissioner [DPS] Michael Duxbury,  and Ms. Monfreda, who guided                                                               
her through the paperwork necessary  for the required clearances.                                                               
She received  confirmation that she  was granted  the clearances.                                                               
She offered that  she does not know definitively  whether she has                                                               
had the  background check  equivalent to  AST.   She acknowledged                                                               
that  she  has  had  a  foreclosure;   it  is  not  in  itself  a                                                               
prohibitive  factor,  but one  that  would  be considered.    She                                                               
stated that  the intent of  that consideration and the  reason it                                                               
is  important  is the  possibility  of  a  pressure point.    She                                                               
maintained that  there is  nothing in  her background  that could                                                               
potentially cause such a pressure  point.  She suggested that Mr.                                                               
Morgan could speak to Co-Chair Fields's concerns.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS stated that  [Alaska State] Representative Tammie                                                               
Wilson  asked  the  House State  Affairs  Standing  Committee  to                                                               
request  the  following:   attendance  record  when  working  for                                                               
Governor Walker,  academic transcripts, verification of  the APSC                                                               
background check,  and the most  current credit report.   He said                                                               
that the committee  has not received the  documents requested and                                                               
asked her to provide them.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  replied that  she will  not be  providing the                                                               
requested  document.    She stated  that  the  documents  contain                                                               
sensitive  and personal  information, which  would become  public                                                               
when submitted to the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS asked  the commissioner  whether prior  to being                                                               
dismissed,  she had  a plan  of  improvement or  was required  to                                                               
submit weekly reports  to her supervisor about where  she was and                                                               
what she did during the week.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE answered no.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked  her whether she has  ever contacted anyone                                                               
in  the  media regarding  rumors  about  why Lieutenant  Governor                                                               
[Byron] Mallott resigned.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE answered yes.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:41:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  referred to Commissioner  Price's testimony                                                               
regarding the  desperate need  for the  proper equipment  in DPS.                                                               
She thanked  the commissioner  for her comments.   She  said that                                                               
when she did  her trooper ride-along on the  Lower Peninsula, she                                                               
learned that the troopers were  dealing with outdated and failing                                                               
equipment;  it  was preventing  them  from  getting back  on  the                                                               
streets and  doing their jobs.   She  continued by saying  that a                                                               
common  complaint by  the public  is  that the  troopers are  not                                                               
there when they  need them; however, she expressed  that they are                                                               
doing  the  best they  can  for  Alaskans.   While  equipment  is                                                               
perceived as just  a technicality, it is  something that troopers                                                               
deal with  every day.  Not  having what they need,  such as being                                                               
able to print off a document, can create such a delay.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS mentioned  Commissioner  Price's testimony  that                                                               
under the  Walker administration she  was "pulled off"  of Senate                                                               
Bill 91,  because of her  opposition to the  bill.  He  asked for                                                               
the  number  of  public,  ACJC, stakeholder,  or  other  internal                                                               
meetings  with agency  staff she  attended during  the very  long                                                               
development of Senate Bill 91.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE clarified  that Senate  Bill 91  was never  a                                                               
primary issue of her portfolio.   Her primary portfolio issue was                                                               
to  work  with  domestic  violence and  sexual  assault  partners                                                               
throughout  the  state  to improve  response,  intervention,  and                                                               
prevention  efforts.   She  was  asked  for feedback  and  advice                                                               
[regarding Senate Bill  91] at certain times, but it  was not her                                                               
primary focus; therefore, not many meetings.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  asked  if  she  ever  prepared  an  independent                                                               
analysis of  the provisions  of Senate  Bill 91  as it  was being                                                               
developed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE responded  that she does not  believe that she                                                               
did;  she  provided  feedback  that  she  collected  from  victim                                                               
service agencies  and law enforcement entities  across the state.                                                               
She  said  that  she  collected the  input,  aggregated  it,  and                                                               
forwarded it  to the governor  but did not create  an independent                                                               
analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  asked in what  way she articulated  her concerns                                                               
regarding Senate Bill 91 to the governor.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE responded  that  it  was by  way  of a  vocal                                                               
meeting  with  the   governor  and  chief  of   staff,  which  is                                                               
referenced  in the  follow-up  letter from  Mr.  Whitaker to  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:46 p.m. to 3:49 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:49:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  asked Commissioner  Price  what  her title  was                                                               
under the Walker administration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  replied that  she started as  special advisor                                                               
to  Governor  Walker  and  was  promoted  to  senior  advisor  to                                                               
Governor Walker.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked  for clarification that Senate  Bill 91 was                                                               
not in her job description.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE  responded  that  she  was  involved  in  the                                                               
initial conversations  as to  what the  administration's strategy                                                               
would be; however, [former  Legislative Director] Darwin Peterson                                                               
and  [former Deputy  Legislative Director]  Lacy Wilcox  were the                                                               
leads on  the project.   She was asked for  feedback occasionally                                                               
but did not have an integral role.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  read  an  email  communication  from  a  Senate                                                               
staffer dated May 16, 2016, which read:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Hey all -                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     It  sound  like  the   Governor's  "policy  advisor  on                                                                    
     criminal justice" (who I've never  met or heard of) put                                                                    
     together  a document  - a  comprehensive  summary -  of                                                                    
     feedback  and  concerns  from  numerous  organizations,                                                                    
     including  APOA,  PSEA,  APDEA, CDVSA,  ANDVSA,  STARR,                                                                    
     Victims for  Justice, and more. After  receiving all of                                                                    
     that   feedback,  after   months  of   teleconferences,                                                                    
     roundtables, and  thoughtful consideration of  the data                                                                    
     and research,  she painstakingly  compiled them  into a                                                                    
     document for the Governor's review.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Instead, what she really sent  was a word-for-word copy                                                                    
     of a document Gerard  Asselin (President of APDEA) sent                                                                    
     me over  a month  ago (at my  request) to  explain some                                                                    
     changes  they   would  like  to  the   bill.  Literally                                                                    
     verbatim (see e-mail below).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     She  has  blatantly  misrepresented her  role  and  the                                                                    
     origins of  the document. What's most  alarming is that                                                                    
     the document is grossly  inaccurate. A month ago (April                                                                    
     21st  --  when  the   document  was  authored)  it  was                                                                    
     significantly more  relevant. Since  then, many  of the                                                                    
     concerns have  been resolved in  SB 91 or  explained in                                                                    
     further detail  to clear  up misunderstandings.  At the                                                                    
     very  least,   Amanda  should  have   updated  Gerard's                                                                    
     document  before  forwarding  it  to  the  Governor  of                                                                    
     Alaska  as  "policy  advise". It's  clear  she  has  no                                                                    
     compunction with back-dooring her own agenda.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Here's what's  most insulting on a  personal level: our                                                                    
     office actually  did the work  Amanda purports  to have                                                                    
     done. We have done the  hundreds of hours of conference                                                                    
     calls. We have done the  hundreds of hours of meetings.                                                                    
     We have  made the  hundreds of changes  to the  bill in                                                                    
     response to  those meetings. Whatever she  has done, we                                                                    
     have done  it one  hundred times  over. I  imagine John                                                                    
     would  share my  sentiments.  It's  insulting that  her                                                                    
     plagiarized,  misrepresented   drivel  would   even  be                                                                    
     considered by the Governor.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE responded,  "The document,  as it  speaks for                                                               
itself, does  lack the attachment of  what my document was,  as I                                                               
believe my  document was a forward.   I in no  manner plagiarized                                                               
anybody's  work.   I  forwarded  a  document to  the  legislative                                                               
office, as  I believed my obligation  to be, from APDEA  - one of                                                               
my  strong partners  and the  body whom  I've worked  with for  a                                                               
decade and who  my husband retired from.  I  simply forwarded Mr.                                                               
Asselin's document; I did not claim that work as my own ...."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LEDOUX  asked   whether  the   background  check                                                               
referred  to in  Ms.  Monfreda's letter  is  the same  background                                                               
check that previous commissioners have gotten.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHERYN   MONFREDA,  Chief,   Criminal   Records,  Division   of                                                               
Statewide  Services (DSS),  Department  of  Public Safety  (DPS),                                                               
answered yes.   She  said that  every person  who is  required to                                                               
have physical  or logical access to  criminal justice information                                                               
undergoes  the   same  background  check;  that   includes  every                                                               
employee in the department.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether  any of  the employees  are                                                               
subject to any additional check.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA answered  that  for employment,  that  is the  only                                                               
background  check.     Some  employees   have  a   more  thorough                                                               
background  check through  the  Alaska  Information and  Analysis                                                               
Center (AKIAC); she  expressed that she does not  know what other                                                               
checks Commissioner Price may have undergone.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX   asked  Ms.  Monfreda  to   identify  the                                                               
employees who must have the more thorough background check.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA said  that the policy is that any  DPS employee must                                                               
undergo  the more  in-depth background  check  that includes  the                                                               
fingerprint-based background check.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked  for   confirmation  that  any  DPS                                                               
employee  that  is   hired  must  go  through   a  more  thorough                                                               
background check than the one referenced in the 4/15/19 letter.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA  replied  that  there  are  additional  sources  of                                                               
information that are checked prior to employment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:56:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Michael  Duxbury,  Deputy   Commissioner,  Department  of  Public                                                               
Safety, asked for the questions to be restated.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX referred  to the  4/15/19 letter  from Ms.                                                               
Monfreda, which read in part:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The results of these checks revealed no disqualifying                                                                      
       information; therefore, Ms. Price has an approved                                                                        
     security clearance to work around CJIS data.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether  there is  a more  advanced                                                               
background check that Commissioner Price did not pass.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  clarified  by asking,  "What's  the  difference                                                               
between  the  CJIS  background check  and  the  background  check                                                               
someone would undergo to become a state trooper?"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUXBURY  responded that the  position of commissioner  of DPS                                                               
is   a  political   appointment;  therefore,   it  has   its  own                                                               
classification  and  the governor  may  appoint  whom he  wishes.                                                               
Because  people  inside  the  DPS  building  need  to  be  around                                                               
criminal  justice   information  systems,  they  must   pass  the                                                               
Criminal Justice Information System  (CJIS) background check.  He                                                               
stated  that  the  check  was  done  to  allow  the  commissioner                                                               
unescorted  access to  the building  and to  be around  personal,                                                               
identifying information that must be secure and used properly.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUXBURY,  in response  to Co-Chair Fields,  said in  order to                                                               
determine whether AST,  AWT and fire marshals,  who interact with                                                               
a badge and  a firearm in situations of force  have integrity and                                                               
can  respond  to  people, DPS  requires  an  in-depth  background                                                               
check.   He added  that DPS  also hires civilians  who do  not go                                                               
through the  same background  check as  a trooper;  however, they                                                               
must have a CJIS clearance,  no criminal background, and have the                                                               
moral turpitude and  ability not to be influenced  in any harmful                                                               
way  that could  affect the  State of  Alaska.   He offered  that                                                               
Commissioner  Price's appointment  by  the governor  makes her  a                                                               
commissioned officer; however, as  the administrative officer for                                                               
the  department,  she  would  not need  the  full  state  trooper                                                               
clearance.   He maintained  that she has  the clearance  that she                                                               
needs to have in order to  be the administrative officer for DPS.                                                               
She also has subordinates with  national security clearances.  If                                                               
anything needs to  be communicated to her,  the contacting agency                                                               
- DoD, FBI, or the U.S.  Department of Justice (DOJ) - would have                                                               
her sign the  "right-to-know" "need-to-know" information document                                                               
so that that DPS could assist the federal agency.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:01:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  said that she thought  the commissioner to                                                               
say  that   the  former  commissioners  had   no  other  security                                                               
clearances other than CJIS.  She  suggested that if they "came up                                                               
through the  ranks" they  would have  the more  in-depth security                                                               
clearance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DUXBURY  responded that  he  did  not  know the  two  former                                                               
commissioners to  have the national security  clearance when they                                                               
became employed at AST.  He said that it may have been possible                                                                 
for them  to have clearances  for other reasons at  other places.                                                               
He  added that  on a  couple  occasions the  certificates of  DPS                                                               
[former  troopers]  had  expired,  which  would  have  made  them                                                               
civilians.  He stated that as  civilians they were subject to the                                                               
CJIS background check.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked Mr. Duxbury  for a clarification in writing                                                               
of  the  difference  between  a CJIS  background  check  and  the                                                               
trooper background check.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUXBURY responded that DPS would provide such a document.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:03:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  commented  that  Mr.  Duxbury  mentioned  a                                                               
national  security  clearance,  as   well  as  CJIS  and  trooper                                                               
security clearances.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DUXBURY  expressed  his  understanding   that  DOJ  -  which                                                               
includes  FBI,  DHS,  the U.S.  Drug  Enforcement  Administration                                                               
(DEA), and DoD  - requires a certain level  of security clearance                                                               
in order to  be involved with national security  information.  He                                                               
added that  DPS has employees  who will attain  partial clearance                                                               
for  specialty purposes  only.   He  further  explained that  the                                                               
security clearance for  troopers is a background  check to ensure                                                               
that the  department is putting  the right person into  the field                                                               
into  stressful  situations  and  who is  carrying  and  has  the                                                               
authority  to  use  force.    Troopers  also  must  have  a  CJIS                                                               
clearance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked for confirmation  that there are people                                                               
at DPS  with the national  security clearances to  interface with                                                               
the national agencies and obtain information as needed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUXBURY agreed.  He explained  that it would not be necessary                                                               
for  the  commissioner  of  DPS   to  have  a  national  security                                                               
clearance.  The  agency that holds the information  has the right                                                               
to pass  the information;  therefore, if it  decides to  pass the                                                               
information, it would  have the commissioner sign a  waiver.  The                                                               
important  aspect   of  national  security  information   is  not                                                               
revealing  methods,  means,  or  sources, in  order  to  continue                                                               
receiving information.   Information can be  "cleaned" and shared                                                               
with the  commissioner and division  directors for them  to carry                                                               
out law enforcement response.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:06:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  offered her  understanding that due  to the                                                               
respect that she and other  committee members have for the people                                                               
who serve in public safety,  [the committee] wants to ensure that                                                               
the commissioner passes  the same muster.  She  asked Mr. Duxbury                                                               
what his recommendation to the  committee is for the commissioner                                                               
of DPS.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUXBURY  stated that the  people in the room  represent about                                                               
130 years of  service; they have offered their  experience to the                                                               
commissioner, who  is making improvements in  conducting business                                                               
arrangements  and improving  DPS  deliverables  through a  victim                                                               
advocacy thought process.  He  said, "Being successful at what we                                                               
do instead  of unsuccessful  and being the  brunt of  'You didn't                                                               
help  us' is  really hard  on our  people."   He maintained  that                                                               
Commissioner Price  has put  in place  some procedures  that have                                                               
made  immediate  improvements.   He  offered  that DPS  has  many                                                               
challenges, including issues regarding  laws and issues regarding                                                               
technology.  He  said that Commissioner Price has  the full faith                                                               
and credit  of the group  of [DPS] supervisors  in the room.   He                                                               
maintained that the  rank and file, with  few exceptions, support                                                               
the  appointment of  Commissioner  Price; they  have  hope for  a                                                               
better  future  for  the  Alaska  public; and  they  want  to  be                                                               
successful.  He recommended confirmation of Commissioner Price.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:10:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  referred  to  public  testimony  from  Mark                                                               
Springer  [Chairman, Marijuana  Control Board  (MCB)] during  the                                                               
confirmation hearing  on Commissioner  Price [4/4/19  House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee meeting], in  which he stated that the                                                               
Alcohol & Marijuana  Control Office (AMCO) was moved  from DPS to                                                               
the  Department of  Commerce,  Community  & Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED).  He  asked for her comments on that  move.  Mr. Springer                                                               
also  mentioned a  request  for light  bars  for their  vehicles.                                                               
Representative Wool  suggested that since the  AMCO officers have                                                               
the trappings of  public safety - badges, guns, and  vests - they                                                               
may be more appropriately in DPS.   He asked whether she would be                                                               
an advocate of  moving AMCO back to public safety  or whether she                                                               
supports it  staying in commerce  and modifying it to  "more look                                                               
like commerce as opposed to public safety."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  PRICE  answered that  she  would  not advocate  for                                                               
moving  AMCO  back   into  DPS  because  they   are  primarily  a                                                               
regulatory agency.   She said  she supported the decision  by the                                                               
prior administration  to no longer  allow the  AMCO investigators                                                               
to have access to the  CJIS; federal regulations dictate that one                                                               
either must be a peace officer  or expend greater than 51 percent                                                               
of one's time on criminal  justice activities.  She asserted that                                                               
because  AMCO is  regulatory in  nature, it  does not  meet those                                                               
standards.   She  gave them  three direct  points of  contact for                                                               
their efforts to  empower and support their mission  in the event                                                               
of  a challenge;  she also  asked them  to provide  her with  any                                                               
information that  would allow  her to  reinstate that  access [to                                                               
CJIS] should  they meet the federal  requirements associated with                                                               
needing that access.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:12:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE  referred to the email  communication from the                                                               
senate staffer  offered by Co-Chair Fields;  she paraphrased from                                                               
another email sent  by an individual involved in  the email chain                                                               
to the  governor, which was  dated the same day  [5/16/16], which                                                               
she read as follows:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  more thought  I give  this, Governor,  the more  I                                                                    
     regret sending  this email to you.   I'm sorry.   I was                                                                    
     frustrated  and should  dealt with  it differently.   I                                                                    
     may have failed  to communicate with Amanda  what I was                                                                    
     hoping to get from her.   I will work with her tomorrow                                                                    
     on a proper bill analysis.  I will also work to clarify                                                                    
     things  to Coghill's  staff.   Also,  I  know you  have                                                                    
     other stuff to deal with.  Thank you.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Always honored,                                                                                                            
     [name withheld]                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS expressed  that he does not believe  the email to                                                               
have been  disclosed from  the Alaska  Public Records  Act (APRA)                                                               
response from the administration.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PRICE offered  that she didn't know  where the email                                                               
came from; it was handed to her.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  mentioned  that   members  of  the  media  have                                                               
struggled to  get information about the  nature of correspondence                                                               
on Senate Bill 91.  He  said that if the administration wished to                                                               
share further correspondence, it would be welcome.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:14:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated that  the House State Affairs Standing                                                               
Committee  has  reviewed  the qualifications  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee and recommends that the  following name be forwarded to                                                               
a joint  session for consideration:   Amanda  Price, Commissioner                                                               
of DPS.   He reminded members that signing  the reports regarding                                                               
appointments to boards and commissions  in no way reflects intent                                                               
of any  of the  members to  vote for  or against  this individual                                                               
during any further session for the purposes of confirmation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[The confirmation was treated as advanced.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:15:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:15 p.m. to 4:17 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Lieutenant Governor Successor                                                                                                  
                 Lieutenant Governor Successor                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:17:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  continued confirmation hearings to  consider the                                                               
appointment  of  Dr.  Michael   Johnson  as  Lieutenant  Governor                                                               
Successor.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:17:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MICHAEL  JOHNSON,  Commissioner,   stated  that  he  is  the                                                               
Commissioner of DEED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:17:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated that  the House State Affairs Standing                                                               
Committee  has  reviewed  the qualifications  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee and recommends that the  following name be forwarded to                                                               
a  joint  session  for  consideration:     Dr.  Michael  Johnson,                                                               
Lieutenant Governor Successor.   He reminded members that signing                                                               
the reports  regarding appointments to boards  and commissions in                                                               
no  way reflects  intent of  any of  the members  to vote  for or                                                               
against  this  individual  during  any further  session  for  the                                                               
purposes of confirmation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[The confirmation was treated as advanced.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 4:18 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Chief Administrative Law Judge                                                                                                 
                  Chief Administrative Law Judge                                                                            
4:18:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  continued confirmation hearings to  consider the                                                               
appointment  of Kathleen  Frederick as  Chief Administrative  Law                                                               
Judge.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated that  the House State Affairs Standing                                                               
Committee  has  reviewed  the qualifications  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee and recommends that the  following name be forwarded to                                                               
a  joint session  for consideration:   Kathleen  Frederick, Chief                                                               
Administrative Law Judge.   He reminded members  that signing the                                                               
reports regarding  appointments to  boards and commissions  in no                                                               
way reflects intent of any of  the members to vote for or against                                                               
this individual  during any further  session for the  purposes of                                                               
confirmation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[The confirmation was treated as advanced.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^Alaska State Commission for Human Rights                                                                                       
^Alaska Department of Corrections Parole Board                                                                                  
^Alaska State Personnel Board                                                                                                   
^Alaska Public Offices Commission                                                                                               
^Alaska Police Standard Council                                                                                                 
            Alaska State Commission for Human Rights                                                                        
         Alaska Department of Corrections Parole Board                                                                      
                  Alaska State Personnel Board                                                                              
                Alaska Public Offices Commission                                                                            
                Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:19:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS   turned  the   committee's  attention   to  the                                                               
remaining  boards and  commissions before  it.   [Appointee names                                                               
are listed in the committee  calendar section at the beginning of                                                               
these minutes.]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:20:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated that  the House State Affairs Standing                                                               
Committee  has  reviewed  the qualifications  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointees and recommends that the  names be forwarded to a joint                                                               
session for consideration.  He  reminded members that signing the                                                               
reports regarding  appointments to  boards and commissions  in no                                                               
way reflects intent of any of  the members to vote for or against                                                               
this individual  during any further  session for the  purposes of                                                               
confirmation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[The confirmations were treated as advanced.]                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:21:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:21 p.m. to 4:23 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           HB  50-ARREST;RELEASE;SENTENCING;PROBATION                                                                       
          HB  51-PROBATION; PAROLE; SENTENCES; CREDITS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:23:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 50,  "An  Act relating  to pretrial  release;                                                               
relating  to sentencing;  relating  to  treatment program  credit                                                               
toward  service  of  a  sentence  of  imprisonment;  relating  to                                                               
electronic  monitoring; amending  Rules  38.2  and 45(d),  Alaska                                                               
Rules  of  Criminal Procedure;  and  providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."  and HOUSE  BILL NO.  51, "An  Act relating  to probation;                                                               
relating to a  program allowing probationers to  earn credits for                                                               
complying  with the  conditions of  probation; relating  to early                                                               
termination  of  probation; relating  to  parole;  relating to  a                                                               
program allowing parolees to earn  credits for complying with the                                                               
conditions of  parole; relating to  early termination  of parole;                                                               
relating  to eligibility  for discretionary  parole; relating  to                                                               
good time; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   FIELDS   expressed    his   concerns   regarding   the                                                               
circumstances surrounding the resignation  of Quinlan Steiner, as                                                               
Director  of  the Public  Defender  Agency  (PDA), Department  of                                                               
Administration (DOA).   Mr. Steiner had  tendered his resignation                                                               
effective on  appointment of a  new public defender  appointed by                                                               
the Alaska  Judicial Counsel consistent  with AS 18.85.030.   Co-                                                               
Chair Fields offered  that his concern is  that [Governor Michael                                                               
J. Dunleavy]  has accelerated  the dismissal  of Mr.  Steiner and                                                               
appointed an  interim public defender,  and the statute  does not                                                               
give  him the  authority  to do  so.   He  maintained the  public                                                               
defender is, by  design, an independent position,  and the public                                                               
defender can only  be removed for cause.  He  asserted that is an                                                               
important principle  in terms of  a public defender  advising the                                                               
legislature on matters of criminal  justice and not being subject                                                               
to  political pressure.    He  said that  currently  there is  no                                                               
public defender nominated by the  judicial council, which impairs                                                               
the legislature's ability  to ensure a fair hearing  on the crime                                                               
and public safety legislation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:25:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  SKIDMORE, Director,  Criminal Division,  Department of  Law                                                               
(DOL), on behalf  of the House Rules  Standing Committee, sponsor                                                               
of  HB 51,  by request  of the  governor, relayed  that HB  51 is                                                               
designed to  address probation  and parole.   He referred  to the                                                               
document, entitled  "HB 51 Probation  and Parole  Highlights" and                                                               
included in the committee packet, which read in part:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Caps on  Sanctions  for  Technical  Violations  and                                                                      
     Absconding    Repeals  the caps  on  the sanctions  for                                                                    
     technical violations  (currently 3, 5, and  10 days for                                                                    
     the   first   three    violations   respectively)   and                                                                    
     absconding  (up  to  30 days).  Returns  discretion  to                                                                    
     judges  and  the  parole board  to  impose  a  sanction                                                                    
     appropriate for  the offender,  the type  of violation,                                                                    
     and the underlying offense.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  explained that  Senate Bill  91 [passed  during the                                                               
Twenty-Ninth  Alaska  State  Legislature, 2015-2016,  and  signed                                                               
into law  7/11/16] placed caps on  the amount of time  that could                                                               
be imposed  for either probation  or parole  violations; however,                                                               
the  caps, instead  of being  for  a single  violation, ended  up                                                               
being for the  entire petition.  Consequently, there  can be many                                                               
violations,  but the  maximum  sanction that  can  be imposed  is                                                               
three days.   He  added that returning  discretion to  judges and                                                               
the parole board allows them  to consider the underlying offense,                                                               
the length of  time the offender has been  under supervision, the                                                               
number of past allegations or  violations that have occurred, and                                                               
the current allegations.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  moved on to  the second  bullet in the  document to                                                               
review the  proposal for earned  compliance credits  (ECC), which                                                               
read in part:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • Earned Compliance Credits   Reduces credits  to one                                                                      
     day  for every  three days  without a  violation. If  a                                                                    
     person  violates their  probation or  parole they  will                                                                    
     lose  all credits  accrued up  until the  violation and                                                                    
     have  to  start  over.  Prohibits  sex  offenders  from                                                                    
     earning credits.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  explained  that   currently,  every  day  that  an                                                               
offender is on  probation or parole without  a violation, his/her                                                               
probation  or  parole time  may  be  reduced  by  one day.    The                                                               
proposed legislation changes  that ratio to 3:1,  such that every                                                               
three days of good behavior earns one day off.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  asked  whether  there is  any  evidence  to                                                               
justify the change.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE answered  that there  has been  no research  on it;                                                               
however, during the  time of its implementation,  there have been                                                               
problems with calculating  ECC.  He maintained  that the proposed                                                               
legislation would  help with  the calculations.   He  stated that                                                               
when the state and the  Alaska Criminal Justice Commission (ACJC)                                                               
evaluated  probation  and  parole,   they  learned  that  keeping                                                               
offenders on probation  and parole for very long  periods of time                                                               
was  not helpful.   They  considered three  options -  ECC, early                                                               
termination, and reduced maximum  periods of probation that could                                                               
be  imposed -  and ended  up adopting  all three.   The  proposed                                                               
legislation  offers a  more "digestible"  and balanced  approach.                                                               
He added that  the 1:3 ratio was recently adopted  by the federal                                                               
government for ECC, as well as some other states.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  referred  to  page   2  of  the  Department  of                                                               
Corrections (DOC)  fiscal note  (FN) [Identifier:   LL0031-2-DOC-                                                               
PP-01-22-19], included  in the committee packet,  and pointed out                                                               
the analysis  relays several scenarios  with estimated  costs but                                                               
no total.  He asked why DOC did  not total the costs and what the                                                               
total  additional   costs  would   be  for  offenders   being  in                                                               
incarceration longer.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  responded  that  he was  not  prepared  to  answer                                                               
questions about the DOC FN.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:36:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  continued with  the third  bullet in  the document,                                                               
which read in part:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • Early Termination Of Probation And Parole   Returns                                                                      
     to  a true  recommendation of  the probation  or parole                                                                    
     officer instead  of a  mandated recommendation  after 1                                                                    
     or 2 years without violation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE explained  that  before Senate  Bill  91, a  parole                                                               
officer  had the  ability to  recommend termination  of probation                                                               
and parole  based on  his assessment as  to whether  the offender                                                               
was a good candidate for it.   Under Senate Bill 91, instead of a                                                               
recommendation,  it   became  a  requirement  to   recommend  the                                                               
termination of  probation and  parole after one  year.   Under HB                                                               
51, the recommendation  would again be based  on the individual's                                                               
history and behavior.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WOOL  asked   whether   the   option  of   early                                                               
termination was used very much.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  relayed that he  could answer the question  only in                                                               
terms of probation, since his experience  is as a prosecutor.  He                                                               
said  that  he  did  see   recommendations  but  could  not  give                                                               
statistics.  He added that more  frequently he saw what is called                                                               
"placing  someone on  a  minimum  bank."   He  explained that  an                                                               
offender is  required to report  to the probation officer  once a                                                               
month; if the person was  doing well, the probation officer would                                                               
shift that person  to the minimum bank, which  means the offender                                                               
no longer  must report  on a  monthly basis.   This  lessened the                                                               
restrictions of probation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:42:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE continued  reviewing  the highlights  of  HB 51  by                                                               
addressing parole.  He mentioned  that he would be discussing two                                                               
areas  of parole:    1)  the eligibility  for  parole;  and 2)  a                                                               
determination of who should be  released on parole.  He explained                                                               
parole  by  way of  the  following  example:   An  individual  is                                                               
sentenced  in court  to  five  years in  jail  -  with two  years                                                               
suspended  and three  years to  serve.   The two  years that  are                                                               
suspended is  the length  of time that  "hangs over  the person's                                                               
head" so that if he/she  violates a condition of probation, there                                                               
is the potential  that those two years could be  imposed.  Parole                                                               
refers to the scenario in which  the person is released from jail                                                               
prior to  the completion of  the three  years and is  returned to                                                               
the community;  there are conditions  set for parole, and  if the                                                               
person violates conditions of parole,  the person may be required                                                               
to return to jail to serve the remainder of the sentence.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE said that there are  two types of parole - mandatory                                                               
and discretionary.  Mandatory parole,  also known as "good time,"                                                               
occurs  when  someone  is  released from  prison  early  -  after                                                               
serving approximately two-thirds  of the sentence -  and is meant                                                               
to  help  the  person  adjust  back  out  to  the  community  and                                                               
alleviate prison overcrowding.   Parole eligibility, under HB 51,                                                               
refers  to discretionary  parole.   Discretionary parole  is when                                                               
the offender applies for early  release after serving approximate                                                               
one-third  of his/her  sentence;  this early  release is  earlier                                                               
than mandatory release.  The  parole board evaluates the case and                                                               
decides whether the  person is a good candidate for  release.  In                                                               
the  example,  the person  would  be  eligible for  discretionary                                                               
parole after one year.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE relayed  that under Senate Bill  91, the eligibility                                                               
for discretionary parole was broadened.   He reviewed the changes                                                               
in eligibility  for discretionary  parole under  HB 51,  shown on                                                               
the document, which read in part:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      • Parole Eligibility  Returns to restricting what                                                                         
      crimes are eligible for discretionary parole. Makes                                                                       
     the following crimes ineligible:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • Non-sex class A felonies (Robbery 1, Assault 1,                                                                       
          Arson 1, Escape 1, MIW 1);                                                                                            
        • B felonies if the person had one or more prior                                                                        
          felony convictions;                                                                                                   
        • C felonies if the person had two or more prior                                                                        
          felony convictions; and                                                                                               
        • B and C sex felonies (Sexual Assault 2, Sexual                                                                        
           Abuse of a Minor 2, Distribution of Child                                                                            
          Pornography).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS opened public testimony on HB 50 and HB 51.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:48:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE BOTZ said she supports the idea  of HB 51.  She opined that                                                               
there  should be  stronger policy  to not  allow probationers  to                                                               
repeat  crimes upon  release.   She  suggested  classes could  be                                                               
offered  to help  people on  probation be  successful when  their                                                               
probation period  ends.  She  indicated the classes could  help a                                                               
person with  his/her work success  and state  of mind.   She said                                                               
Alaska ranks number  one for sex crimes, and she  said "they" are                                                               
the ones  that should have "maximum  probation punishment without                                                               
any parole."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:50:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:51 p.m. to 4:52 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:51:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYNETTE CLARK,  Chair, Alaska Independence Party,  stated concern                                                               
that the  legislation does not have  "any real teeth."   She said                                                               
she would like to  see HB 50 and HB 51 not passed.   She said she                                                               
supports what the  Senate has done regarding the  Crime Bill, and                                                               
she  wants  to  see  Senate  Bill 91  repealed.    She  expressed                                                               
appreciation for the work that has been  done on HB 50 and HB 51,                                                               
but indicated that  the Senate's proposed legislation  is more in                                                               
depth  and focused  on making  criminals pay  for what  they have                                                               
done.  She reiterated that she cannot support HB 50 and HB 51.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:53:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NORIA  CLARK stated  that she  used to  feel safe  [in Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska].   She said she once  lived in Chicago, where  her mother                                                               
survived  being shot  on  her  way to  work;  she  once lived  in                                                               
Southern Arizona, where there is  drug cartel and constant crime.                                                               
She said Senate Bill 91 gives  more rights to criminals than law-                                                               
abiding citizens have.  She  stated, "Currently we are number one                                                               
in  multiple violent  and non-violent  crimes per  capita."   She                                                               
said  these  crimes  includes  those  sexual  violence,  car  and                                                               
property  theft.   Ms. Clark  talked  about voting  and that  the                                                               
people of Alaska will take back  their power.  She said there are                                                               
those who represent  Alaskans and those who only claim  to do so.                                                               
She stated that  Senate Bill 91 should be repealed,  with new law                                                               
put in  the books directing  how to  handle criminals.   She said                                                               
time given  to allow Senate Bill  91 to work is  time wasted when                                                               
it  results  in lives  lost.    She  characterized Alaska  as  "a                                                               
nightmare  game of  Monopoly," where  there is  "get out  of jail                                                               
free"  and  taxes  on  those  who  must  "pay  for  it,"  because                                                               
"criminals don't pay taxes."  Ms.  Clark stated that HB 50 and HB                                                               
51 are only  Band-Aids.  She posited that Alaska  is probably the                                                               
last  state in  the  Union that  could actually  be  saved.   She                                                               
concluded by saying that she is tired of being afraid.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:55:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BERT  HOUGHTALING stated  that he  is disturbed  to hear  it said                                                               
that people do not understand what  is wrong with Senate Bill 91.                                                               
He stated support  of "anything that Governor  Dunleavy is trying                                                               
to pass right now,"  and suggested that HB 50 and  HB 51 could be                                                               
a good start  toward getting tougher on criminals  who are repeat                                                               
offenders.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS closed public testimony on HB 50 and HB 51.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  announced that  HB 50  and HB  51 would  be held                                                               
over.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:57:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee  meeting was adjourned  at 4:57                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Dept. of Public Safety Commissioner Price - CJIS Security 4.16.19.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50 ver A.PDF HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 - Pretrial Highlights.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 - Pretrial Sectional.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 - Transmittal Letter.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 ver A 2.20.19.PDF HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Pretrial Highlights 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Pretrial Sectional 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Transmittal Letter 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Additional Document - Crime Bill GOA Bills Matrix 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Fiscal Note DPS-PrisTrans 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Fiscal Note DOC-Pretrial 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Fiscal Note DOC-IDO 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Fiscal Note LAW-CRM 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Fiscal Note DOA-OPA 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Fiscal Note DOA-PDA 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Fiscal Note JUD-ACS 3.19.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Opposing Doucment - Functioning Model of a Community Corrections System 3.19.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB051 ver A 2.20.19.PDF HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Highlights 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Sectional Analysis 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Transmittal Letter 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Additional Document - Crime Bill GOA Bills Matrix 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Fiscal Note DOC-IDO 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Fiscal Note LAW-CRM 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Fiscal Note DOC-DPP 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 3/19/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB050 Supporting Document - Letter of Support AACOP 3.20.19.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Opposing Document - Letter of Opposition 4.16.19.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Supporting Document - Letters of Support 4.15.2019 - 4.16.2019.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB051 Supporting Document - Letter of Support AACOP 3.20.19.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Supporting Document - Letters of Support 4.15.2019 - 4.16.2019.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Opposing Document - Letter of Opposition 4.16.19.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
HB051 Additional Docment - GOA Bills Matrix 2.20.19.pdf HSTA 4/16/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 51
SB 91