Legislature(2019 - 2020)GRUENBERG 120

03/05/2019 03:00 PM STATE AFFAIRS

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03:03:02 PM Start
03:03:51 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
03:04:07 PM Department of Military & Veterans' Affairs, Commissioner
03:37:42 PM Department of Administration, Commissioner
04:52:47 PM HJR9
05:01:21 PM HB57
05:09:42 PM HB15
05:16:36 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
- Commissioner Designee General Torrence Saxe,
Dept. of Military & Veterans' Affairs
- Commissioner Designee Kelly Tshibaka, Dept. of
Administration
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HJR 9 ELIZABETH PERATROVICH COMMEMORATIVE COIN TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 15 SENTENCING: VEHICLE THEFT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 57 CHILD LABOR HOURS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
                     ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                 
              HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                          March 5, 2019                                                                                         
                            3:03 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins, Co-Chair                                                                                
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
Representative Laddie Shaw                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Department Of Military & Veterans' Affairs, Commissioner                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     General Torrence Saxe - JBER                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Department Of Administration, Commissioner                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Kelly Tshibaka - Anchorage                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 9                                                                                                    
Requesting the United States Secretary of the Treasury to mint                                                                  
not less than 5,000,000 $1 coins honoring Elizabeth Peratrovich                                                                 
under the Native American $1 Coin Act.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 57                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to expanding the period in a day during which                                                                  
an employed child under 16 years of age may perform work in the                                                                 
summer; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 15                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to sentencing for vehicle theft in the first                                                                   
degree."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
BILL: HJR  9                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ELIZABETH PERATROVICH COMMEMORATIVE COIN                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) JOHNSON                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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BILL: HB  57                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CHILD LABOR HOURS                                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) WILSON                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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02/20/19       (H)       STA, L&C                                                                                               
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BILL: HB  15                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SENTENCING: VEHICLE THEFT                                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) FIELDS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/20/19       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/19                                                                                
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02/20/19       (H)       STA, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
03/05/19       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
GENERAL TORRENCE SAXE, Commissioner Designee                                                                                    
Department of Military & Veterans' Affairs (DMVA)                                                                               
Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER), Alaska                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as commissioner designee to the                                                                
Department of Military & Veterans' Affairs (DMVA).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN MCPHERSON                                                                                                                 
Air National Guard                                                                                                              
Texas                                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support during the                                                                          
confirmation hearing on General Torrence Saxe.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL SAM KEENER                                                                                                              
Tennessee Air National Guard                                                                                                    
Tennessee                                                                                                                       
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on General Torrence Saxe.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RICK CAVENS                                                                                                                     
Retired Air National Guard                                                                                                      
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on General Torrence Saxe.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
KELLY TSHIBAKA, Commissioner Designee                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  as commissioner designee  to the                                                             
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT DAHL                                                                                                                      
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MICHELE HARTLIN                                                                                                                 
Nikiski, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KADITA TSHIBAKA                                                                                                                 
Virginia                                                                                                                        
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER EASON                                                                                                                  
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRANDY CUNNINGTON                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
NIKI TSHIBAKA                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE HUTCHISON                                                                                                             
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
AMALIA DOLAND                                                                                                                   
Oklahoma                                                                                                                        
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LYNN HALLFORD                                                                                                                   
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JANE KASSUBE                                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JARRED LEWIS                                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JIM DRAKE                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JESSICA CHULUZ                                                                                                                  
Arizona                                                                                                                         
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JULIA HARRISON                                                                                                                  
Virginia                                                                                                                        
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLASS STEVENS                                                                                                                
Washington DC                                                                                                                   
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN HAUSMAN                                                                                                                   
California                                                                                                                      
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
AMY HANSEN                                                                                                                      
Virginia                                                                                                                        
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JOAN CORR                                                                                                                       
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LORREL BROWN, MD                                                                                                                
Louisville Kentucky                                                                                                             
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRENT BREINING                                                                                                                  
Washington DC                                                                                                                   
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Testified  in   support   during   the                                                             
confirmation hearing on Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DELANA JOHNSON                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced HJR 9, as prime sponsor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MARCY HERMAN, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative DeLana Johnson                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HJR  9 on behalf of Representative                                                             
Johnson, prime sponsor.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE WILSON                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 57, as prime sponsor.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GREY MITCHELL, Director                                                                                                         
Division of Workers' Compensation (DWC)                                                                                         
Department of Labor & Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided information during  the hearing on                                                             
HB 57.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:03:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZACK FIELDS  called the  House  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  3:03 p.m.  Representatives LeDoux,                                                               
Wool,  Vance, Shaw,  Kreiss-Tomkins, and  Fields were  present at                                                               
the call to order.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                     CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
3:03:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be confirmation hearings.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Department of Military & Veterans' Affairs, Commissioner                                                                       
     Department of Military & Veterans' Affairs, Commissioner                                                               
                                                                                                                              
3:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL  TORRENCE  SAXE,  Commissioner  Designee,  Department  of                                                               
Military  & Veterans'  Affairs (DMVA),  began by  announcing that                                                               
the National Guard Bureau has  requested through Governor Michael                                                               
J. Dunleavy  that 10 Alaska  National Guard soldiers  be deployed                                                               
to Southwest U.S.  to provide U.S. Army aviation  support, with a                                                               
45- to  60-day rotation beginning April  1, 2019.  He  added that                                                               
mobilization was voluntary.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:04:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS asked whether  there are any instances of                                                               
similar deployment of the Alaska National Guard ("the Guard").                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE responded  that Alaska's Guard has  not been engaged                                                               
in this way previously; however,  the Guards of other states have                                                               
been.   He said that  since it  is a voluntary  mobilization, the                                                               
governor will  remain the commander-in-chief and  the troops will                                                               
remain under [Code of Federal Regulations (CFR)] Title 32.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS referred to the  size of the deployment -                                                               
ten soldiers - and asked, "Who made that decision?"                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE answered that the governor made that decision.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:06:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked  if the deployment was  the result of                                                               
the national  emergency declaration [made by  President Donald J.                                                               
Trump under  the National Emergencies  Act (NEA) of 1976]  at the                                                               
southern border.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE replied,  "At least indirectly."  He  said that with                                                               
a federal emergency you can  involuntarily mobilize the troops to                                                               
be deployed under federal status; however,  it is not the case in                                                               
this  situation.    The  Alaska National  Guard  troops  will  be                                                               
deployed under "state"  status; therefore, the commander-in-chief                                                               
will  be the  governor.   If it  were a  federal deployment,  the                                                               
President would be the commander-in-chief.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked whether the deployment  would change                                                               
if the U.S. Congress declared that  there was no emergency on the                                                               
border.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE said, "It would not."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS   asked  whether   there  are  state   costs  or                                                               
preparedness impacts associated with the deployment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE  replied that  there would be  no impacts  and [this                                                               
deployment] would  not impact future deployments.   He maintained                                                               
that Alaska would  have adequate troops and  equipment to address                                                               
any event and for the "fire season."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  asked  whether [the  deployment]  would  impair                                                               
Alaska's ability to perform search and rescue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE responded, "It would not."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE reviewed  his background and experience.   He stated                                                               
that he has  been in the military about 30  years; he enlisted in                                                               
the army  in 1989.   He  was enlisted for  five years,  became an                                                               
officer,  was on  active  duty  for nine  years,  and joined  the                                                               
Alaska Air National Guard (AK ANG) in 2004.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE relayed that he  started his military career working                                                               
with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles  (ICBMs) on active duty;                                                               
his background is  space and missiles.  He has  been stationed at                                                               
Clear Air Force Station (AFS),  Eielson Air Force Base (AFB), and                                                               
twice at Joint  Base Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER).  He  has been a                                                               
commander seven  times.   He stated  that he  is very  careful to                                                               
always "take  care of the  people because  they take care  of the                                                               
mission."   He related that  he was  the commander at  Clear AFS,                                                               
commander for  the 168th Wing  at Eielson AFB, and  most recently                                                               
commander of AK ANG.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:09:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL mentioned  that he  understood that  General                                                               
Saxe was  not a  pilot but  has been  commandeer of  various wing                                                               
units.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE responded  that he is not a pilot  but was the first                                                               
non-pilot  to command  the 168th  Wing.   He  explained that  the                                                               
168th  Wing  has  a  space  mission at  Clear  AFS  and  has  the                                                               
refuelers.  He mentioned that  the newest refueler at the station                                                               
was made in  1963, and if the follow-on KC-46  [refueler] does go                                                               
to Eielson AFB, AK ANG would like to be involved.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:10:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS asked  General Saxe  to state  his goals                                                               
for the direction of the Guard,  if confirmed.  He also asked how                                                               
General  Saxe  would  carry  forth  the  work  initiated  by  his                                                               
predecessor in  terms of re-centering  the culture of  the Guard,                                                               
especially as it relates to sexual harassment and abuse.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE  relayed three  major points  to describe  his goals                                                               
for  the direction  of the  Guard.   He expressed  his desire  to                                                               
shift the focus more on state  operations.  The National Guard is                                                               
the only entity in the Department  of Defense (DoD) that has both                                                               
a state  and federal mission.   The [JBER] staff is  charged with                                                               
preparedness for  a national disaster.   He expressed  his belief                                                               
that more focus is needed on that mission.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE  stated that his  second point involves  focusing on                                                               
the  people; he  has no  tolerance  for toxic  behavior or  toxic                                                               
leadership.  He  stated that his predecessor  addressed that, but                                                               
he intends  to refine that  effort.  He  stated that he  has zero                                                               
tolerance  for   sexual  harassment  and  sexual   assault.    He                                                               
mentioned that  his wife told  him about  a situation she  had in                                                               
the  U.S. Army  involving harassment;  that story  impressed upon                                                               
him  that he  must be  the one  to make  sure that  he is  a good                                                               
example, and  everyone under  his command  is following  the same                                                               
rules as well.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE  moved on to  the third goal,  which is to  focus on                                                               
future missions.   He relayed that the  largest mission currently                                                               
involves the F-35,  the KC 46, and  the long-range discrimination                                                               
radar (lrdr)  at Clear AFS.   He explained that the  operation at                                                               
Clear AFS  is a  spotter-sniper relationship; that  is, personnel                                                               
at Clear AFS  are to spot inbound missiles and  personnel at Fort                                                               
Greely [U.S.  Army launch  site] are  to shoot  them down.   Both                                                               
missions are  executed by the  Guard; he expressed his  desire to                                                               
see the operation enhanced.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL  SAXE  continued by  saying,  "As  far as  centering  the                                                               
culture, I have  to be a good  example, and I have  to hold those                                                               
people  below me  to the  same high  standard."   He recited  his                                                               
rules  for  sexual harassment:    never  talk  about sex  in  any                                                               
aspect;  don't  say  anything inappropriate;  and  do  not  touch                                                               
anyone inappropriately.   He maintained that every  issue that he                                                               
has  addressed with  either sexual  assault or  sexual harassment                                                               
has come  down to  one of  two things:   something has  been said                                                               
inappropriately or  something has been done  inappropriately.  He                                                               
added that he must hold people  accountable who do not hold their                                                               
troops accountable.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:13:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  asked for  General Saxe's  assessment of                                                               
the marginal change  in the Guard from the  widely reported toxic                                                               
culture of 2013-2014 to the  present and the room for improvement                                                               
in the future.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL   SAXE  maintained   that  there   is  always   room  for                                                               
improvement.    He  stated  that the  Guard  has  sexual  assault                                                               
response coordinators and victim advocates.   He asserted that to                                                               
address  the  [toxic]   culture,  it  is  necessary   to  have  a                                                               
leadership program in place, and now  the Guard does.  He relayed                                                               
that senior leaders  just came together in a  200-person event to                                                               
discuss these  issues and answer  questions.  He  maintained that                                                               
the Guard  will have  that program going  forward so  that people                                                               
understand that  the Guard  is looking for  leaders who  are good                                                               
examples,  and  if they  oversee  others,  a higher  standard  is                                                               
expected.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:14:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS offered  that one issue with  the Guard "scandal"                                                               
was that victims had a  difficult time getting their issues heard                                                               
at a high enough level to  address those concerns.  He added that                                                               
chaplains played a role in trying  to elevate those concerns.  He                                                               
asked, "How  do you make  sure that you're  going to know  when a                                                               
problem exists, recognizing that sometimes  it can be hard to get                                                               
that problem noticed - jumping up in the command structure?"                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE responded that the guard  has a system in place with                                                               
the sexual  assault response coordinator; however,  if the report                                                               
[of the incident] is restricted  because the victim does not want                                                               
the general to know,  then he may not know of  it.  He maintained                                                               
that there  is an option for  the victim to make  an unrestricted                                                               
report, in which case General  Saxe will become involved and give                                                               
assistance.  He stated that the  Guard tries very hard to respect                                                               
the  wishes of  the  victim.   For a  victim  who comes  forward,                                                               
whether the  report is restricted  or unrestricted,  the incident                                                               
is  investigated  to the  extent  possible  with the  information                                                               
given and not one will be ignored.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:15:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHAW  shared  that   General  Saxe  is  extremely                                                               
interactive  with  his  troops,  which makes  the  difference  in                                                               
excellent  leadership.   He maintained  that it  is through  that                                                               
interaction that a leader becomes  aware of soldiers' issues.  He                                                               
cited General  Saxe's career  in working his  way up  through the                                                               
ranks.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  referred to  the biography of  General Saxe,                                                               
included in  the committee packet,  which has the  general listed                                                               
as Colonel Saxe, and asked when he received a promotion.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE responded, the 28th of December [2018].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked for a  clarification of  definitions -                                                               
National Guard versus Air National Guard.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL  SAXE explained  that the  National Guard  refers to  the                                                               
U.S. Army's National  Guard and the Air National  Guard refers to                                                               
the U.S. Air Force.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  mentioned  that  General  Saxe  has  mostly                                                               
served  in the  U.S.  Air  Force and  asked  whether the  general                                                               
anticipated a  cultural conflict as commander  of both components                                                               
of the Guard - "Army" and "Air".                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE  maintained that he  does understand  both cultures.                                                               
He asserted  that he  has a very  good working  relationship with                                                               
the Army; he knows the Air  very well with 15 years of experience                                                               
within Alaska.   He said  that he has  reported to DMVA  that his                                                               
focus for the  military will be on the Army.   He maintained that                                                               
he  will do  physical training  with  the infantry,  and he  will                                                               
shoot with  the military  police (MPs).   He relayed,  "Those are                                                               
things I  need to  do right  now to make  sure they  see me  as a                                                               
leader for both the Army and the Air."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS referred to reports  of federal funds being spent                                                               
on an  emergency border  wall project  along the  southern border                                                               
[of the  U.S.] and  mentioned that  it is  possible that  some of                                                               
those  funds   could  be  diverted  from   military  construction                                                               
projects in  Alaska.  He asked  for comment on when  Alaska would                                                               
know if the  funds will be transferred, from  which projects, and                                                               
implications for important Alaska projects.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE responded that he would  like to do more research on                                                               
that  question, but  his  focus  would be  on  the projects  that                                                               
affect DMVA.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  asked  him  to  follow  up  for  the  committee                                                               
regarding the implications to Alaska of the funding shift.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL   conjectured  that  the  F-35   project  in                                                               
Fairbanks is the number one  military construction project in the                                                               
state; he  asked whether General  Saxe is  aware of any  risks to                                                               
that project.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL SAXE  replied that is a  question for active duty;  he is                                                               
trying to get  the Guard involved in flying and  repairing the F-                                                               
35.   He added,  "The overall  question - about  how would  it be                                                               
impacted  -  if  money  is used  for  military  construction,  or                                                               
"milcon,"  then  that  might  be  the  only  tether,  but  that's                                                               
certainly outside of my purview and outside of the DMVA."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:21:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  opened public testimony during  the confirmation                                                               
hearing on the commissioner of DMVA.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:21:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 3:22 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:22:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  MCPHERSON,  Air  National Guard,  related  his  experience                                                               
working  with General  Saxe:   they worked  together in  Security                                                               
Forces  and on  the  Exercise Evaluation  Team  (EET), which  was                                                               
responsible  for testing  and enforcing  standards for  the Clear                                                               
AFS.  He  learned  that  General  Saxe  is  tough  and  has  high                                                               
standards.  He  attested that he has  observed throughout General                                                               
Saxe's career that  "whatever he expects of you,  he expects more                                                               
of himself,  and he lives up  to those high standards."   He said                                                               
that General Saxe is very calm  and thoughtful; he sees all sides                                                               
of issues; he has a calm  demeanor when people and situations are                                                               
tense and  can make tough  decisions.  He expressed  that General                                                               
Saxe never forgets that his  decisions affect people's lives, and                                                               
he ensures that the resources are there to take care of them.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:25:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL SAM KEENER, Tennessee Air  National Guard, stated that he                                                               
served with General Saxe at Clear  AFS.  He relayed that he found                                                               
General  Saxe to  be  a  mission focused  leader;  he was  always                                                               
concerned  about his  people;  he had  high  standards, which  he                                                               
expected of  others and of  himself; and he had  great integrity.                                                               
He  further   stated  that  General   Saxe  has   an  outstanding                                                               
reputation  both  among the  National  Guard  leadership and  the                                                               
active  duty  U.S. Air  Force  leadership.   He  maintained  that                                                               
General Saxe would do an outstanding job as adjutant general.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:26:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICK CAVENS, Retired Air National  Guard, stated that he has been                                                               
a pastor for 34  years - 30 of those years in Alaska  - and an AK                                                               
ANG chaplain for 22 years.   He relayed that General Saxe was one                                                               
of his favorite  commanders of all the commanders  under which he                                                               
served.   He opined that  General Saxe was honest,  caring, open,                                                               
and dedicated.  General Saxe  exemplifies the U.S. Air Force core                                                               
values of integrity, service, and  excellence.  As chaplain under                                                               
General  Saxe, Mr.  Cavens never  doubted the  General's tactical                                                               
expertise, his operational competence, and his strategic vision.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAVENS  referred to  the attributes listed  in the  Air Force                                                               
Handbook.   He relayed  that General Saxe  strove to  keep others                                                               
from  risk -  physical  and  emotional; he  looked  for the  best                                                               
people  to work  with him  to solve  issues; he  always responded                                                               
quickly  and timely.   General  Saxe demonstrated  resilience; he                                                               
was  always educating  himself and  had a  deep understanding  of                                                               
every job on the base he  commanded.  He quoted General Saxe, who                                                               
once told him,  "I treat the people  here as I do  my own family,                                                               
when they are in crisis."   Mr. Cavens maintained that was due to                                                               
love and loyalty.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CAVENS  said  that  General Saxe  is  an  amazing,  talented                                                               
athlete  and  he is  a  man  of  faith.   General  Saxe  utilizes                                                               
teamwork,  communication,  being  connected, and  seeking  social                                                               
support  as  tools  for accomplishing  his  mission  and  solving                                                               
problems.   He is a  team player  who strives to  engage talented                                                               
and  trusted people  to work  with him  to achieve  success.   He                                                               
maintained that General  Saxe would be an asset  as commander for                                                               
the Alaska National Guard.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:34:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW stated that  the House State Affairs Standing                                                               
Committee  has  reviewed  the qualifications  of  the  governor's                                                               
appointee  and  recommends  that   the  confirmation  of  General                                                               
Torrence Saxe be forwarded to  a joint session for consideration.                                                               
He reminded the  committee that doing so does  not reflect intent                                                               
by any  of the  members to  vote for  or against  this individual                                                               
during any further sessions for the purposes of confirmation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  relayed that the  confirmation is  advanced from                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:34:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:34 p.m. to 3:37 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:36:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS moved  on to the second  item under confirmations                                                               
hearings.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:37:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 3:37 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Department of Administration, Commissioner                                                                                     
            Department of Administration, Commissioner                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
3:37:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  TSHIBAKA, Commissioner  Designee, stated  that as  a child                                                               
she   developed  her   values  for   accountability  and   fiscal                                                               
responsibility by  helping her mother,  who was an auditor.   She                                                               
mentioned that she  learned the value of a united  work team from                                                               
her father, who  was an electrician and union member.   She added                                                               
that she also learned to  question authority in a responsible and                                                               
respectful way.   She related  experiences growing up  in Alaska.                                                               
She stated  that she graduated  from Steller  [Secondary School],                                                               
attended Texas A&M University, worked  for Senator Ted Stevens on                                                               
the  U.S. Senate  Committee on  Appropriations, attended  Harvard                                                               
Law School,  and joined  the U.S.  Department of  Justice (USDOJ)                                                               
Office of the Inspector General (OIG).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA relayed that  staff at OIG were responsible                                                               
for  promoting  efficiency  and effectiveness  in  detecting  and                                                               
deterring    waste,   fraud,    and    abuse   through    audits,                                                               
investigations,  inspections,   and  multi-disciplinary  reviews.                                                               
She maintained that the values  that her parents instilled in her                                                               
-   accountability,  fiscal   responsibility,  team   unity,  and                                                               
questioning  authority -  were  a perfect  alignment  for an  OIG                                                               
career.   At USDOJ OIG  she investigated complex cases,  like the                                                               
abuse  of Arabs  and Muslims  detained after  the [the  terrorist                                                               
attacks of  September 11, 2001].   The case was heard  before the                                                               
U.S.  Supreme Court.   She  oversaw  audits, investigations,  and                                                               
inspections of  other USDOJ programs  and activities;  she helped                                                               
to manage 400 employees nationwide.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA  stated that after  her work at  USDOJ OIG,                                                               
she was the first hire at  the Office of the Director of National                                                               
Intelligence (ODNI) OIG.  The  ODNI OIG was established after the                                                               
9/11 Commission  Report [of  2004] found the  need for  a federal                                                               
agency to oversee all  intelligence community agencies, including                                                               
the Department of Defense (DoD),  the Central Intelligence Agency                                                               
(CIA), the  National Security  Administration (NSA),  the Federal                                                               
Bureau  of Investigations  (FBI),  the U.S.  Department of  State                                                               
(USDOS), and  about 12  other agencies.   She explained  that she                                                               
served as  legal counsel  in the office  and co-led  the creation                                                               
and establishment of  the office.  In that  role she investigated                                                               
misconduct by  presidential appointees, participated  in projects                                                               
such as improving  the process for putting people's  names on the                                                               
terrorist watchlist, and evaluated  the ODNI agency's culture and                                                               
effectiveness.      She   briefed  the   Director   of   National                                                               
Intelligence on agency projects.   She advocated successfully for                                                               
legislation that  established the  inspector general  in statute,                                                               
which she accomplished in  collaboration with inspectors general,                                                               
general counsels,  congressional oversight committees,  and White                                                               
House staffers in a five-year process.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA  stated that  in  her  next position,  she                                                               
served  as  the special  advisor  in  the  ODNI Office  of  Civil                                                               
Liberties, Privacy [and Transparency],  where she participated in                                                               
developing  guidance  for  the intelligence  community  on  civil                                                               
liberty    and   privacy    issues,   collaborative    electronic                                                               
environments,   use  of   social  media   information,  and   the                                                               
development of  research projects.   She relayed that  after that                                                               
position,  she  joined the  Federal  Trade  Commission (FTC)  OIG                                                               
where she served as the  chief investigator and legal counsel and                                                               
later  as the  acting inspector  general.   She led  the team  to                                                               
complete high-risk core mission reviews  of an agency with a $300                                                               
million budget and 1,200 employees.   She cited her achievements:                                                               
examined   effectiveness   of   FTC  in   protecting   consumers;                                                               
investigated allegations  made by  Congressman Darrel  Issa, then                                                               
chairman  of the  Committee on  Oversight and  Government Reform,                                                               
regarding the  number of FTC successful  enforcement actions; and                                                               
performed  information   security  audits,   financial  statement                                                               
audits,   performance   inspections,    and   investigations   of                                                               
misconduct.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA offered that  most recently she founded and                                                               
established  the  position of  Chief  Data  Officer at  the  U.S.                                                               
Postal  Service (USPS)  OIG.    As the  Chief  Data Officer,  she                                                               
served on a nine-person executive  team responsible for oversight                                                               
of the  USPS, which  generates $70 million  in revenue,  has over                                                               
620,000 employees and $13 billion  in contracts, and moves over 5                                                               
billion parcels of  mail every year.  She said  that in contrast,                                                               
the OIG  has just  over 1,000 employees  and about  $250 million;                                                               
therefore, the  most effective way  to perform oversight  of USPS                                                               
is to  use data  analytics.   Use of data  analytics led  to more                                                               
than  $1.9 billion  in  financial impact,  $179  million in  cost                                                               
avoidances, 225  criminal case  outcomes, and  enabled OIG  to do                                                               
more  with less,  not  less with  less.   She  reported that  her                                                               
office  led innovative  efforts  to identify  illegal opioids  in                                                               
more than 5  billion parcels delivered annually.   She maintained                                                               
that  this  unprecedented  use of  data  analytics  substantially                                                               
advanced multi-agency  efforts to prevent drug  trafficking.  She                                                               
asserted that her  OIG background would shape  how she approaches                                                               
being commissioner  of DOA.   She offered that she  would promote                                                               
efficiency  and   effectiveness,  pursue  innovations   and  cost                                                               
savings, and achieve results.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA  continued  by  saying that  she  met  her                                                               
husband in law school; they  intended to become great lawyers and                                                               
pay  off their  law  school debts;  however,  God really  changed                                                               
their  hearts.   She  said,  "We are  Christians,  and our  faith                                                               
really took a different turn in  those early years of our career.                                                               
Instead of becoming leaders of  all, we wanted to become servants                                                               
of  all."   She stated  that they  became pastors  and started  a                                                               
church that  focuses on developing  leaders, healing  people from                                                               
trauma  and   addiction,  and  helping  orphans,   refugees,  and                                                               
survivors of  victims of human  trafficking.  She  said, "Whether                                                               
it's people or  it's organizations, I love  helping people become                                                               
who  they've  always   wanted  to  be."     She  maintained  that                                                               
organizations are just collections of  people with a purpose; she                                                               
enjoys helping organizations become the best that they can be.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   TSHIBAKA  stated   that  in   preparing  for   the                                                               
confirmation hearings, she  had the opportunity to  meet with the                                                               
members of the committee in  advance; the meetings have given her                                                               
the chance to  learn about issues of interest to  the members and                                                               
answer questions on a wide range  of topics.  She maintained that                                                               
the majority of the meetings  have been enjoyable and productive;                                                               
however, in  her meeting  with [Co-Chair]  Fields, she  was asked                                                               
questions  related  to her  religious  beliefs:   how  she  would                                                               
express  her Christian  faith at  work; how  her Christian  faith                                                               
would affect her implementation of  laws and policies; and if she                                                               
would separate her faith life from  her work life.  She testified                                                               
that he told her to be  prepared to answer these questions during                                                               
today's hearing.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA  expressed  her   desire  to  address  the                                                               
questions openly and publicly.  She stated:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I have a strong  and established 16-year federal career                                                                    
     of   cultivating  diverse   teams  and   of  faithfully                                                                    
     implementing federal  laws, regulations,  and policies.                                                                    
     I would  not have been entrusted  with multiple senior-                                                                    
     level   positions,  nor   maintained   my  top   secret                                                                    
     sensitive  compartmented   information  (SCI)  security                                                                    
     clearance,  if I  had engaged  in religious  expression                                                                    
     that was  inappropriate, if I  had forced  my religious                                                                    
     beliefs on  others, or  if I  had contravened  laws and                                                                    
     policies with which I disagreed.   As further testament                                                                    
     to my leadership, the  committees have received several                                                                    
     letters of  endorsement from inspectors  general who've                                                                    
     supervised me  throughout my career,  as well  as, from                                                                    
     some of  my direct reports,  many of whom do  not share                                                                    
     my religious views.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA referred  to the  letters of  support from                                                               
the following individuals, included  in the committee packet: the                                                               
former inspector  general of  USDOJ [Glenn  A. Fine];  the former                                                               
inspector general  of the FTC  [Scott Wilson]; and  the inspector                                                               
general  of USPS  [Tammy L.  Whitcomb].   She mentioned  that the                                                               
inspector  general of  the  Department of  Labor  (DOL) has  also                                                               
endorsed her nomination.   She contended that she  would not have                                                               
received  these endorsements  if she  was a  leader who  used her                                                               
position  or authority  to violate  other people's  civil rights.                                                               
She said,  "In short, throughout  my professional career,  I have                                                               
lived  out my  faith  and values  in  a manner  that  is true  to                                                               
myself, respectful of others, and consistent with the law."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   TSHIBAKA  maintained   that   in   her  last   two                                                               
confirmation hearings  before the [Alaska State]  Senate, she was                                                               
asked if she  would have the courage to speak  up if she believed                                                               
that Alaska's state leaders were  heading in the wrong direction.                                                               
She responded, "I said I would,  and today I am."  She maintained                                                               
that  the  questions she  has  been  asked  about her  faith  are                                                               
unconstitutional  lines   of  inquiry  that  violate   her  civil                                                               
liberties  - religious  liberties enshrined  in the  text of  the                                                               
U.S.  Constitution.    She  declared  that  the  first  amendment                                                               
protects the freedom of religious  expression.  Article VI of the                                                               
U.S. Constitution provides  that no religious test  shall ever be                                                               
required as a  qualification to any office or  public trust under                                                               
the U.S.   The U.S.  Supreme Court has explicitly  warned against                                                               
the danger  of presuming  that a person's  faith might  present a                                                               
danger in  the context of  holding public office.   She continued                                                               
by  saying that  in McDaniel  v. Paty,  [Supreme Court  Justices]                                                               
Brennan  and  Marshall  wrote,   "that  the  American  experience                                                               
provides no  persuasive support  for the  fear that  clergymen in                                                               
public  office   will  be  less  careful   of  anti-establishment                                                               
interests or  less faithful to  their oaths of civil  office than                                                               
their unordained counterparts."  She  cited Article 1, Section 3,                                                               
of the Alaska State Constitution,  which states, "No person is to                                                               
be denied the  enjoyment of any civil or  political right because                                                               
of ... creed  ...."  She claimed that in  addition, the questions                                                               
she has been asked violate the  spirit of AS 18.80.200; she cited                                                               
AS.80.210,  which explicitly  prohibits  discrimination based  on                                                               
religion, including religious discrimination  in employment.  She                                                               
emphasized  that   the  laws  maintain  that   the  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature   has  declared   it  a   legislative  finding   that                                                               
discrimination  against an  inhabitant  of the  state because  of                                                               
religion is  a matter  of public concern;  it not  only threatens                                                               
the rights  and privileges  of the inhabitants  of the  state but                                                               
also  threatens the  peace, order,  health,  safety, and  general                                                               
welfare  of the  state and  its  inhabitants.   She directed  the                                                               
committee  members'   attention  to  ["Guidelines   of  Religious                                                               
Exercise  and Religious  Expression"]  issued  by President  Bill                                                               
Clinton on August  17, 1997, relating to  religious expression in                                                               
the  federal  workplace; the  guidelines  have  the force  of  an                                                               
executive  order and  have been  affirmed  by every  presidential                                                               
administration since then, including  President Barak Obama.  She                                                               
relayed  the guidelines:    a  supervisor is  free  to engage  in                                                               
religious expression when  it is understood as  the personal view                                                               
of the supervisor  and not perceived as coercion  of religious or                                                               
of non-religious  behavior.  She  gave an example:   a supervisor                                                               
may invite coworkers  to church events, talk  about religion, and                                                               
hold  or  attend  a  Bible study  during  lunch;  he/she  cannot,                                                               
however, order coworkers to attend  a religious service or coerce                                                               
agreement  with  his/her views.    She  expressed her  desire  to                                                               
submit for the  legislative record both the  Guidelines issued by                                                               
President Clinton and  the October 6, 2017,  memorandum issued by                                                               
DOJ, entitled "Federal Law Protections for Religious Liberty."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:49:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA concluded  by asserting  that her  rights,                                                               
both under  the U.S. Constitution and  Alaska State Constitution,                                                               
were  violated  during  her  pre-hearing  meeting  with  Co-Chair                                                               
Fields.  She maintained that she  harbors no ill will against Co-                                                               
Chair Fields; however,  her hope is that she is  the last nominee                                                               
to  come  before   the  legislature  to  be   subjected  to  such                                                               
unconstitutional lines of inquiry.  She continued:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     All  employees of  Alaska  from  supervisors to  staff,                                                                    
     from  commissioners   to  interns,  have   a  protected                                                                    
     freedom  to  express  their religion  or  non-religion.                                                                    
     Alaskans  rights of  free exercise  are not  limited to                                                                    
     the doors  of their  churches, their  synagogues, their                                                                    
     mosques,  or their  temples.   They carry  those rights                                                                    
     with  them  wherever they  go  and  wherever they  are,                                                                    
     including in the  halls of our state  legislature or at                                                                    
     the desks  of their  State of  Alaska agencies.   Their                                                                    
     rights of free exercise of  religion have to be honored                                                                    
     and protected and observed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA further  stated,  "I have  found that  the                                                               
greatest diversity  in the workforce  is created when  people are                                                               
fully free to  be their true selves, and it's  in the richness of                                                               
that diversity that  trust is formed, and  community is fostered,                                                               
and unity  is forged."   She  said that it  is along  these lines                                                               
that   some  Democratic   legislators  have   asked  if   I  will                                                               
discriminate against  people based  on their  sexual orientation.                                                               
She said, "So let  me be absolutely clear.  I  will not engage in                                                               
such   discrimination,  nor   have   I  ever   engaged  in   such                                                               
discrimination."   She offered that  she has  a long career  as a                                                               
senior   leader  in   federal  government,   in  which   she  has                                                               
consistently celebrated, embraced, and  respected diversity.  She                                                               
maintained that  she will  continue to live  by that  standard as                                                               
the commissioner of DOA.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA   concluded  her  remarks   by  addressing                                                               
another question  she has received:   Why  do you want  this job?                                                               
She stated  that she  believes Alaska  is an  extraordinary place                                                               
and is inhabited by an  extraordinary and diverse people, but the                                                               
state  is facing  an  extraordinary  crisis.   She  said, "I  was                                                               
inspired to  come home  by the  vision of a  leader who  wants to                                                               
make our state  safer, more prosperous, and fiscally  healthy - a                                                               
leader  who  wants  to  turn our  extraordinary  crises  into  an                                                               
extraordinary comeback."   She  maintained that  it was  for that                                                               
reason  she submitted  her  resume and  asked  the newly  elected                                                               
governor,  [Michael  J.  Dunleavy],  "Is  there  a  need  for  my                                                               
skillset?"   She said, "Quite  simply I  wanted to come  back and                                                               
help  the state  I  love."   She stated  that  initially she  was                                                               
brought on  board in January  [2019] as  a policy advisor  to the                                                               
governor, overseeing  reviews of programs and  operations to help                                                               
make them  more efficient  and effective.   She offered  that she                                                               
was  both humbled  and honored  when  the governor  asked her  to                                                               
serve as the commissioner of DOA.   She expressed her belief that                                                               
her skills  and experience will be  more valuable in the  role of                                                               
commissioner of  DOA than  in the  role of  policy advisor.   She                                                               
said, "I love Alaska  and the people who live here.   I came home                                                               
to help  and to serve."   She maintained that as  commissioner of                                                               
DOA, she will help the department  to become the best that it can                                                               
be, and  in so doing, the  state agencies will be  able to better                                                               
serve Alaskans.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  acknowledged  that   he  did  ask  Commissioner                                                               
Tshibaka about her  views on homosexuality and her  ability to be                                                               
a  manager  of a  diverse  workforce  and considered  her  answer                                                               
entirely appropriate.   He maintained that he  was simply looking                                                               
for her to repeat that on the  record to reassure the public.  He                                                               
stated, "I certainly did not apply  a religious test or intend to                                                               
apply a  religious test.  I  respect that there's a  wide variety                                                               
of people who are in our  workforce."  He expressed, "I guess I'm                                                               
just  disappointed that  you made  that accusation,  because that                                                               
was not my intent nor is that what I did."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  asked the  commissioner  to  speak to  her                                                               
vision  for  DOA  and  how  that vision  would  differ  from  the                                                               
department in the past.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA relayed  that her vision would  be to fully                                                               
implement what the  legislature has been attempting  to do, which                                                               
is  to   make  the  department  effective   in  providing  shared                                                               
services.    She  maintained that  the  legislature  has  funded,                                                               
outlined,  and  tried  to  implement   the  effort  to  make  the                                                               
department efficient in providing  excellent customer service and                                                               
in  gaining cost-savings  by setting  up the  Division of  Shared                                                               
Services   of   Alaska   (SSOA)  and   centralizing   information                                                               
technology (IT)  within the division.   She expressed  her desire                                                               
to successfully implement that effort and show results.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA stated  that her  long-term vision  is for                                                               
DOA to  realize cost savings and  efficiencies through automation                                                               
that is  successful across the  departments and to move  DOA into                                                               
data  analytics.   She maintained  that the  state could  realize                                                               
substantial  savings,   uncover  possible  fraud,   and  identify                                                               
efficiencies not yet realized.   She expressed her suspicion that                                                               
the state is spending money in  places it doesn't intend to spend                                                               
money and, therefore, not able to  spend money in places it wants                                                               
to  spend  money.    She  maintained  that  even  a  modest  data                                                               
analytics capability inside DOA could reverse that trend.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:55:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked for  a definition of  data analytics                                                               
and an explanation of what can be done with it.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA  said that  data analytics  is the  same as                                                               
data analysis.   She  stated that  data analytics  involves using                                                               
tools  -   people  with  business  process   knowledge  and  data                                                               
scientists  - to  "bounce data  off each  other" for  inquiry and                                                               
insight that cannot  be achieved with just the human  brain.  She                                                               
gave an example  from her work at USPS.   Through data analytics,                                                               
staff was able  to identify people under the age  of 50, who were                                                               
receiving regular  Worker's Compensation  payments from  the U.S.                                                               
DOL for soft  tissue injuries, such as sprained  ankles, for more                                                               
than  five years.    She  maintained that  one  does  not have  a                                                               
sprained ankle for  more than five years if under  the age of 50.                                                               
She  explained   that  using  those   three  data  points   in  a                                                               
mathematical algorithm  and applying that filter  to the Worker's                                                               
Compensation  claim  data  identified several  fraud  cases  that                                                               
would not have  been readily identified with the human  eye.  She                                                               
said that the result was that  a great deal of money was returned                                                               
to USPS.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA relayed  a  second example:   It  involved                                                               
developing  a  complex  algorithm  using  the  26  indicators  of                                                               
contract fraud  identified from successful prosecutions,  such as                                                               
cost overruns,  vendor changes fees,  and missed timelines.   The                                                               
algorithm  was  applied  to  the  $13  billion  in  contracts  to                                                               
determine which  ones were high risk  on a risk scale  and should                                                               
be investigated and audited.  She  said, "Data looking at data to                                                               
tell us  in a  way that  our brain is  too simple  to understand.                                                               
You have a problem here.  You need to go look at that."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX agreed  that it  makes sense  that someone                                                               
under a certain age would not  be disabled for five years because                                                               
of   a  sprained   ankle;  however,   the  "eggshell   plaintiff"                                                               
[doctrine] taught in  the first year of law  school suggests that                                                               
there  are   some  people  who  are   different,  therefore,  not                                                               
committing fraud.   She  offered that  she didn't  understand why                                                               
the  human eye  could  not  identify those  cases;  but even  so,                                                               
assuming  a  certain number  of  people  fall into  the  category                                                               
described, "what  do you do next  to actually show that  they are                                                               
faking it, as opposed to the eggshell plaintiff."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA  replied that the department  would have to                                                               
work with an  agent to investigate and validate it.   She offered                                                               
that DOA would  need to develop analytics queries  to prove there                                                               
is a match, then work with  a trained investigator to assist with                                                               
proving a  fraud case  to be  referred to  the Department  of Law                                                               
(DOL).  The department would have  to set up a system for working                                                               
a whole case before starting the process.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked for  confirmation that there would be                                                               
an  actual  person  investigating   before  a  person's  Worker's                                                               
Compensation payments are stopped.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA replied, "That's correct."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:00:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL referred to  the breach in Alaska's electoral                                                               
system  during the  [2016 presidential]  election.   He asked  if                                                               
that issue  is under DOA's purview;  he asked her to  provide her                                                               
thoughts on it.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA  responded,  "Yes,   it  falls  under  our                                                               
purview, and we  are right now working up a  request for proposal                                                               
(RFP) to replace our entire  system for the Division of Elections                                                               
(DOE) in  order to upgrade the  information security architecture                                                               
for the computer system."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  asked  whether  this upgrade  is  in  DOA's                                                               
budget,  given  the  state's  fiscal  restraints  and  the  great                                                               
expense of  software.  He  stated that the Office  of Information                                                               
Technology (OIT)  within DOA has  increased its budget to  try to                                                               
consolidate and centralize and asked  whether new DOE software is                                                               
part of its budgeting process.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA expressed her  belief that DOE is procuring                                                               
the software.   She said  that the  need for a  budget supplement                                                               
will be  determined after the  RFP's are submitted;  however, her                                                               
understanding is that the funds are adequate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:02:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS   mentioned  that  the  state   has  had  fiscal                                                               
restraints   for  several   years;  the   commissioner  will   be                                                               
inheriting  multi-year  [employee]   contracts;  and  some  state                                                               
employees have  foregone raises for  several years.  He  asked if                                                               
she intends to honor the contracts.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA answered  that  she intends  to honor  the                                                               
contracts that have  already been decided and would  not make any                                                               
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS referred  to  Commissioner Tshibaka's  testimony                                                               
regarding  the investigation  of former  Congressman Darrel  Issa                                                               
and asked for the outcome of the investigation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   TSHIBAKA  replied   that  the   outcome  was   the                                                               
determination that  the employees  did not conspire  to fabricate                                                               
the  evidence.    She  maintained   that  it  was  a  complicated                                                               
investigation and "it  all came down to whether or  not they took                                                               
the trip  to the headquarters  on the Pennsylvania Turnpike  on a                                                               
particular  Monday,  so  it required  investigating  all  of  the                                                               
tollbooth photographs that day."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked to get in  writing a list of the following:                                                               
the  new exempt  and partially  exempt positions  that have  been                                                               
created  since the  governor took  office; existing,  exempt, and                                                               
partially  exempt positions  that  have been  moved  to a  higher                                                               
salary; and a  total of the associated costs for  both.  He said,                                                               
"Basically  what  is  the additional  cost  ...  to  oversimplify                                                               
political   appointees  hired   since  the   beginning  of   this                                                               
administration."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA asked  if  the request  is different  than                                                               
that which was already submitted.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS responded  that  his new  request  is "a  little                                                               
drilled  down" from  the  former  request, and  this  time he  is                                                               
looking  for only  political appointees  that are  new or  have a                                                               
changed salary from the previous administration.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:05:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS referred  to the  commissioner's work  regarding                                                               
human  trafficking.    He stated  that  the  commissioner  [Heidi                                                               
Drygas]  of  the  Department of  Labor  &  Workforce  Development                                                               
(DOLWD)  during  the previous  administration  and  the mayor  of                                                               
Anchorage  [Ethan   Berkowitz]  formed  the  state   local  Human                                                               
Trafficking  Working  Group   with  multi-agency  participants  -                                                               
DOLWD,  the local  prosecutor's office,  FBI, DOL,  and the  U.S.                                                               
Department  of  Commerce  (USDOC).    He  asked  if  Commissioner                                                               
Tshibaka  would  consider  continuing the  working  group  across                                                               
administrations.  He expressed his  belief that the working group                                                               
was a  valuable way for  agencies and local and  state government                                                               
to collaborate on a very troubling issue.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA expressed  that  she would  like to  learn                                                               
more from him about it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:06:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  stated that  he  has  followed SSOA  IT                                                               
consolidation over the years.   He asked Commissioner Tshibaka to                                                               
give her assessment of progress made  thus far, what yet needs to                                                               
happen,  percentage completion  in  achieving consolidation,  and                                                               
the value or lack of value of IT consolidation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA  said  that  within  DOA,  SSOA  does  not                                                               
include IT,  even though IT  is a  shared service for  the state.                                                               
She  stated  that  she  would  answer  the  question  for  shared                                                               
services separately from her answer  for IT.  The shared services                                                               
include travel,  accounts payable, and some  procurement.  Travel                                                               
is  completely integrated  to include  all departments;  SSOA has                                                               
just  launched a  travel platform  to streamline  it and  make it                                                               
more  efficient.   The  accounts payable  has  gone through  some                                                               
office  model reorganization  and some  process changes;  results                                                               
are  mixed;  six  agencies  have been  integrated  into  the  new                                                               
processes with more  agencies to come.  Later this  year DOA will                                                               
inherit  procurement  from  the  procurement  portfolio  and  the                                                               
different agencies will  be onboarded onto this new  system.  She                                                               
maintained  that there  is a  massive  change management  process                                                               
necessary; onboarding  must be monitored to  avoid congestion and                                                               
backlogs and  to ensure good customer  service.  She said,  "I am                                                               
watching this very carefully."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TSHIBAKA  continued by saying that  OIT has achieved                                                               
greater  progress [than  SSOA]; however,  customer service  needs                                                               
improvement before integrating  the agencies.  The  first step is                                                               
to improve  the customer  service scheme; the  second step  is to                                                               
bring in  all the "bits  and pieces" of  OIT that are  now spread                                                               
out in  all the different agencies  of the state.   She expressed                                                               
her understanding that  at one time all the  services were spread                                                               
out;  the state  decided that  centralized services  would create                                                               
cost  efficiencies and  better government.   She  maintained that                                                               
the "shared service" model with  shared services and consolidated                                                               
IT constitutes the best government.   She continued by saying the                                                               
model that  the state currently  has is the worst  model, because                                                               
it has been  done halfway.  She  said that she wants  to show the                                                               
state agencies  that DOA  can perform shared  services well.   To                                                               
accomplish  that,  internal  problems  must  be  fixed  first  to                                                               
demonstrate  that DOA  can  provide  excellent customer  service;                                                               
after that, the  functions that are still  de-centralized must be                                                               
integrated.  She  emphasized, "What we're doing right  now is the                                                               
least efficient,  least cost-savings model possible."   She added                                                               
that it is unsustainable.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:11:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether some services are better de-                                                                  
centralized, such as travel, which  might possibly be managed and                                                               
"fine-tuned"  better   by  someone  who  has   a  closer  working                                                               
relationship  with  the people  in  the  department who  will  be                                                               
traveling.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  TSHIBAKA replied  that  it is  quite possible  that                                                               
there  are some  services for  which it  does not  make sense  to                                                               
centralize.    She referred  to  an  official study  performed  a                                                               
couple  of years  ago  identifying those  services  for which  it                                                               
would make  the most sense to  centralize for the state,  and DOA                                                               
is  focusing  on  those  identified.   She  maintained  that  de-                                                               
centralization of services has not  served the state well and her                                                               
job is to  ensure that [delivery of services] works  well for the                                                               
state.   She asserted  that when  travel is  done well,  it works                                                               
best centralized.   She emphasized, "We've got to  figure out why                                                               
it's not working well, and we've got  to make it work well."  She                                                               
maintained that [centralization] would be  the most efficient and                                                               
lead to  the best cost savings  for the state.   She offered that                                                               
if DOA  tries every avenue to  make it work well  and fails, then                                                               
DOA should  reverse course.   She expressed  her belief  that DOA                                                               
has  not  tried  every  avenue.    She  asserted  that  from  her                                                               
experience  in the  many OIGs,  [centralization] is  the path  to                                                               
efficiency and  cost savings; she  wants DOA to determine  how to                                                               
provide the  best customer service.   She  said that she  did not                                                               
think  the  state  agencies  should   settle  for  subpar  travel                                                               
support; DOA needs to improve customer service.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:14 p.m. to 4:16 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:16:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  opened public testimony during  the confirmation                                                               
hearing on Commissioner Designee Kelly Tshibaka.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:16:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT DAHL  testified that  he is the  inspector general  for the                                                               
U.S. Department  of Labor (USDOL)  and has known and  worked with                                                               
Ms.  Tshibaka for  many years.   He  stated he  was at  times her                                                               
supervisor, her colleague,  and her peer.  He said  that over the                                                               
years  he   has  been   impressed  with   her  ability   to  find                                                               
collaborative  opportunities, even  in challenging  environments,                                                               
and she  accomplishes that  by earning the  trust and  respect of                                                               
others.   He  maintained that  she  is an  inclusive manager  who                                                               
seeks and  respects diverse perspectives.   He asserted  that she                                                               
would  make   an  outstanding   commissioner;  she   is  capable,                                                               
articulate, and  a quick study.   He offered his belief  that she                                                               
will make extraordinary achievements in her career.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:18:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELE HARTLIN testified  that she has known  Ms. Tshibaka since                                                               
"the day she  was born."  She relayed numerous  attributes of Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka  as   a  youth:    precocious,   driven,  and  selfless;                                                               
volunteering her time; studying  Russian language; and graduating                                                               
from high  school at age  15 to  attend college.   She maintained                                                               
that Ms. Tshibaka  has an innate ability to listen  to people and                                                               
gather facts  before coming  to an educated  decision; she  is an                                                               
organized  multitasker  who is  able  to  excel  in a  myriad  of                                                               
subjects and  tasks - employing  logic, humor, and  common sense;                                                               
she can  see people for  who they are  on the inside  and accepts                                                               
them without  judgement.  She  relayed that as a  supervisor, Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka was an involved mentor  to employees, helped them become                                                               
successful valued assets to the team, and earned their respect.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:20:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KADITA TSHIBAKA,  testified that he is  Ms. Tshibaka's father-in-                                                               
law;  has known  her  since  2001; and  has  followed her  career                                                               
closely through various positions.   He relayed that he views Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka as a  true leader of people; she is  a visionary; she is                                                               
an extremely  well organized, efficient,  results-driven promoter                                                               
and developer of people.  She  accepts advise when needed; she is                                                               
a good listener and quick study; and  she is as good as her word.                                                               
She delivers  over and beyond what  is demanded or expected.   He                                                               
maintained  that  having Ms.  Tshibaka  and  her family  move  to                                                               
Alaska was a huge sacrifice for  them all.  He offered his belief                                                               
that Ms. Tshibaka would be a huge asset for Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:22:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER  EASON  testified  that   she  has  known  Ms.  Tshibaka                                                               
personally and  professionally for over  10 years.  She  said she                                                               
went  to  Ms.  Tshibaka  to   find  healing  from  a  destructive                                                               
lifestyle;  Ms.   Tshibaka  mentored  her  and   trained  her  on                                                               
leadership.    She attributed  Ms.  Tshibaka  with the  following                                                               
qualities:  she helps people  in need regardless of social class,                                                               
nationality, political  leaning, and sexual orientation;   she is                                                               
a  role model;  she is  loyal and  trustworthy; her  integrity is                                                               
high caliber;  she is unique, gifted,  and incredibly thoughtful;                                                               
she  is highly  intelligent, but  doesn't  flaunt it;  she has  a                                                               
unique way of bringing people  together and allowing her staff to                                                               
feel seen  and valued; she is  an excellent listener; and  she is                                                               
passionate, loves justice, and loves people.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. EASON offered that Ms.  Tshibaka would be the "hardest worker                                                               
in the  room."  Ms.  Eason said, "Her  50 percent is  the average                                                               
person's  100  percent."    She  continued  by  saying  that  Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka would  be efficient  and effective  in "getting  the job                                                               
done  and  getting  the  job  done well."    She  said  that  Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka's example and leadership  helped her become a productive                                                               
and giving person.   She maintained that Ms.  Tshibaka has always                                                               
been passionate regarding her Alaskan roots.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:25:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDY  CUNNINGTON testified  that  she doesn't  have a  personal                                                               
relationship with Ms. Tshibaka but  is impressed with her resume.                                                               
She  urged  the  committee  to  give Ms.  Tshibaka  its  vote  of                                                               
confidence  based  on her  resume,  her  qualifications, and  the                                                               
supporting testimony.   She maintained  that anything short  of a                                                               
vote of confidence would suggest an underlying personal matter.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:27:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NIKI TSHIBAKA testified  that as her husband he has  known her 20                                                               
years and can  attest to her integrity.  She  speaks her mind and                                                               
speaks with kindness, grace, and  humility.  He mentioned that he                                                               
has witnessed  the many ways in  which she leads in  a variety of                                                               
contexts,  and  her leadership  is  consistent  across all  those                                                               
contexts in terms of valuing  people, embracing diversity, seeing                                                               
the best  in people,  and bringing  out the best  in people.   He                                                               
reiterated   that   her   credentials  and   qualifications   are                                                               
unimpeachable.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:29:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE  HUTCHISON  testified  that Ms.  Tshibaka's  management                                                               
experience will  be an asset to  the state while it  is trying to                                                               
survive its fiscal  crisis.  The state is facing  its "sea change                                                               
of  attitude"; to  see its  way  through [this  crisis] it  needs                                                               
every tool  and technique to which  it has access; and  the state                                                               
will forever be grateful for  the skills and life experience that                                                               
Ms. Tshibaka is willing to bring back to Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMALIA   DOLAND  testified   that  she   concurs  with   previous                                                               
testimony.  She stated that she  has known Ms. Tshibaka for 17-18                                                               
years.   When Ms. Tshibaka was  a student at Harvard  Law School,                                                               
Ms. Doland  saw her  as a sharp,  witty, very  intelligent woman.                                                               
She said  that over the years,  she has come to  realize that Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka  is  a very  capable  and  organized multitasker.    Ms.                                                               
Doland extolled Ms. Tshibaka's  qualities:  calmness, leadership,                                                               
respect for  and inclusiveness of  other people,  integrity, high                                                               
moral  character, and  a  hospitable  and welcoming  disposition.                                                               
Ms. Doland maintained  that even though Ms. Tshibaka  has been in                                                               
many places  in the U.S.  and abroad,  she has always  been proud                                                               
that her roots are Alaskan.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYNN HALLFORD  testified that  she has  known Ms.  Tshibaka since                                                               
elementary  school and  maintained that  Ms. Tshibaka  has always                                                               
loved  Alaska; her  absolute brilliance,  intelligence, kindness,                                                               
and spunk are  needed in the state right now  during tough times.                                                               
She  said  that  she  is   relying  on  Ms.  Tshibaka's  auditing                                                               
background  to  bring  efficiencies and  effectiveness  to  state                                                               
government  and to  find funds  that  are being  spent where  the                                                               
state does not  intend.  She maintained that  Alaska is fortunate                                                               
that Ms. Tshibaka wants to return  to Alaska; she will do a great                                                               
job for Alaska and all Alaskans.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:35:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANE KASSUBE testified that she  has known Ms. Tshibaka her whole                                                               
life and  is familiar with  Ms. Tshibaka's many activities.   She                                                               
confirmed  that  Ms.  Tshibaka  demonstrates  responsibility  and                                                               
leadership; she  is focused and hard-working;  she is trustworthy                                                               
and has  integrity; she  is a problem  solver; she  loves Alaska;                                                               
and she is authentic and genuine in every aspect of her life.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:36:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JARRED  LEWIS  testified  that  he does  not  know  Ms.  Tshibaka                                                               
personally but  everything he has  read about her  indicates that                                                               
she is a person of high integrity.   He said that he supports the                                                               
appointment  because she  would  bring change,  and Alaska  needs                                                               
something new.   He mentioned that she could offer  new ideas for                                                               
efficiency  and accountability.   (indisc.)   He  stated that  he                                                               
endorses her for the position.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:37:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM DRAKE testified that he has  known Ms. Tshibaka all her life;                                                               
because of  an age  difference he  never had  the chance  to work                                                               
with her.   He offered  that Alaskans  bemoan the fact  that they                                                               
raise their  kids, send them  to college, and most  never return.                                                               
He stated that "now we have  a chance" with Ms. Tshibaka with her                                                               
talents and  attributes.  He  urged the committee to  advance her                                                               
confirmation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:38:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JESSICA  CHULUZ   testified  that   she  highly   recommends  Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka; she  has worked with  Ms. Tshibaka on a  regional level                                                               
in  developing  programs  that identify  disenfranchised  people,                                                               
release new  leaders, and  put people  into positions  that allow                                                               
them  to thrive.   She  said that  she has  found Ms.  Tshibaka's                                                               
unique  ability to  simplify  complex  problems without  ignoring                                                               
important  details to  be helpful  in making  a difference.   She                                                               
maintained  that she  has  witnessed Ms.  Tshibaka  find ways  to                                                               
leverage the strength of every member  of a team so that they are                                                               
able to be their best and  contribute to the organization in ways                                                               
that  are  fruitful,  helpful,   and  move  the  pendulum  toward                                                               
success.   She asserted  that she is  extremely grateful  for all                                                               
the times  she has been  able to work  with Ms. Tshibaka  and has                                                               
found her  to bring out the  best in people.   She has incredible                                                               
integrity;  she  is  forward,  honest, and  gracious;  she  is  a                                                               
balance of individual hard work and smarts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:40:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIA HARRISON testified  that she has had  the extreme privilege                                                               
of being  led by Ms.  Tshibaka for the past  10 years.   She said                                                               
that what Ms.  Tshibaka does best is "develop"  other people; she                                                               
gives of herself and her time.   Ms. Harrison stated that she had                                                               
the  privilege of  being among  a group  of women  with whom  Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka  met once  a week  to teach  leadership skills;  all the                                                               
women have advanced  into leadership roles.   She maintained that                                                               
Alaska will  "be thrilled"  with the  legacy Ms.  Tshibaka leaves                                                               
the state and  the people she leads will be  in a better position                                                               
than before her tenure.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:42:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS STEVENS  testified that Ms.  Tshibaka is  incredibly well                                                               
qualified and  has great  talent and ability  but not  the "sharp                                                               
elbows" of  a hard charger  who destroys people in  his/her wake.                                                               
He offered that she really does  care for and develop people.  He                                                               
maintained that  with [the appointment  of] Ms.  Tshibaka, Alaska                                                               
would be  getting someone  who can  fix problems,  straighten out                                                               
systems,  institute efficiencies,  and "build  people up"  in the                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:43:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN HAUSMAN  testified that  he agrees  with all  the testimony                                                               
thus far.   He attested  to her high integrity  and transparency;                                                               
she is welcoming and gracious; and she is very capable.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:45:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY HANSEN testified that she was  in Harvard Law School with Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka and found  her to be one of the  most capable people she                                                               
had ever known.   She offered that Ms. Tshibaka  had the capacity                                                               
to do  extraordinary work  in the  government while  raising five                                                               
amazing children,  running a  church, and  being a  loyal friend.                                                               
She  maintained that  Ms. Tshibaka  is  a brilliant,  thoughtful,                                                               
extremely  hard-working,  incredibly  gifted   women;  she  is  a                                                               
remarkable leader,  a woman of  integrity, and she  loves Alaska.                                                               
She  added  that  Ms.  Tshibaka's work  will  make  a  tremendous                                                               
contribution to the people of Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:46:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOAN CORR  testified that she  has not  met Ms. Tshibaka  but has                                                               
read her resume  and heard of her integrity and  work ethic.  She                                                               
maintained  that Ms.  Tshibaka's resume  and accomplishments  are                                                               
outstanding;  her educational  background is  impressive; and  it                                                               
would  be  hard  to  find  a  more  competent  professional  with                                                               
experience  in  so   many  different  areas.     She  touted  Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka's  fiscal  responsibility,  work in  promoting  a  safer                                                               
society,  and  networking  abilities.   She  expressed  that  Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka's  knowledge of  working with  many government  agencies                                                               
would be a big asset for the  state; she loves Alaska and will do                                                               
what she can to improve it.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:48:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORREL BROWN, MD testified that  Ms. Tshibaka is loyal, kind, and                                                               
forgiving.  Dr.  Brown stated that she considers  Ms. Tshibaka an                                                               
example  of  the  type  of professional  woman  leader  that  she                                                               
herself  aspires to  be.    She maintained  that  she sought  Ms.                                                               
Tshibaka's advice  on all her leadership  questions when selected                                                               
as chief  resident at Johns  Hopkins Hospital, especially  how to                                                               
function in a  male dominated field; she sought advice  on how to                                                               
lead responsibly,  with strength,  but also with  compassion, and                                                               
how to  live out her faith  in a way that  was responsible within                                                               
her profession.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:49:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENT BREINING testified that he  is a retired U.S. Navy captain.                                                               
He said that he knows  Ms. Tshibaka through attending her church;                                                               
she is  welcoming and open;  and she  encouraged him to  pursue a                                                               
pastor's license.   He stated  that the Tshibakas' church  is one                                                               
of  the most  amazing  churches  that he  has  encountered.   The                                                               
Tshibakas  have  been inclusive  of  people  of all  ethnicities,                                                               
cultures,  and social  and economic  backgrounds.   He maintained                                                               
that  Ms. Tshibaka  is equally  inclusive in  the workplace.   He                                                               
asserted that she  would be an excellent leader for  the State of                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:51:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS stated that the confirmation would be held over.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:51:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 4:52 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          HJR 9-ELIZABETH PERATROVICH COMMEMORATIVE COIN                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
4:52:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 9,  Requesting the  United States                                                               
Secretary  of the  Treasury to  mint not  less than  5,000,000 $1                                                               
coins honoring  Elizabeth Peratrovich  under the  Native American                                                               
$1 Coin Act.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:53:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DELANA  JOHNSON,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime sponsor of HJR 9,  stated that the proposed resolution came                                                               
about through discussions with 4-H  youth who visited the capitol                                                               
and requested  that the Elizabeth Peratrovich  coin, scheduled to                                                               
be minted  in 2020,  not be  just a collector's  item but  a coin                                                               
distributed for  real use  in Alaska.   She paraphrased  from the                                                               
sponsor  statement,  which  read in  part  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Through  House Joint  Resolution  9,  the Alaska  State                                                                    
     House of  Representatives is  asking the  United States                                                                    
     President,  Vice President,  and  the  US Secretary  of                                                                    
     Treasury to mint not less  than a full run of 5,000,000                                                                    
     Elizabeth Peratrovich  $1 coins and to  deliver them to                                                                    
     the Seattle branch  of the Federal Reserve  Bank of San                                                                    
     Francisco  for  distribution  throughout the  State  of                                                                    
     Alaska and to coin collectors.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:54:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARCY HERMAN, Staff, Representative  DeLana Johnson, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Johnson, prime sponsor                                                                 
of  HJR 9,  stated  that  specialty coinage  is  a  way to  honor                                                               
Alaska's  past and  reflect on  its  heritage.   These coins  are                                                               
typically distributed  to coin  collectors; the  resolution would                                                               
ask that 5 million minted  coins be distributed throughout Alaska                                                               
and  to  coin  collectors.   She  paraphrased  from  the  sponsor                                                               
statement, which read in part [original punctuation provided]:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     In  2000, the  US  Mint released  the Sacagawea  Golden                                                                    
     Dollar which featured a  portrait of Sacagawea carrying                                                                    
     her  infant son,  Jean-Baptiste.  In  2009, the  United                                                                    
     States  Mint   began  minting  and  issuing   $1  coins                                                                    
     featuring    designs    celebrating    the    important                                                                    
     contributions  to the  history and  development of  the                                                                    
     United  States  made  by  Native  American  tribes  and                                                                    
     individual Native Peoples.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERMAN  relayed that the  Elizabeth Peratrovich  [coin] would                                                               
be the  twelfth Native American  commemorative coin but  only the                                                               
fourth coin honoring  an individual, as opposed to a  tribe.  She                                                               
explained that  Elizabeth Peratrovich  was chosen for  the Native                                                               
American  $1  coin because  she  was  an important  civil  rights                                                               
activist before there was even  the term "civil rights activist."                                                               
Elizabeth  Peratrovich  refused  to  be silent  in  the  face  of                                                               
injustice,  helping Alaskans  see the  reality of  discrimination                                                               
and  its devasting  effect on  those against  whom discrimination                                                               
was  practiced.   She advocated  for  the passage  of the  Alaska                                                               
Anti-Discrimination  Act  of  1945,  which was  the  first  anti-                                                               
discrimination  law in  the U.S.,  passed on  February 16,  1945.                                                               
Elizabeth  Peratrovich  symbolizes  the  crucial  role  that  the                                                               
public plays in the legislative process.   She also served as the                                                               
grand princess of  the Alaska Native Sisterhood and  was name the                                                               
2018  honoree of  the  National Women's  History  Alliance.   The                                                               
Alaska  State   Legislature  has  already   recognized  Elizabeth                                                               
Peratrovich by  establishing February  16 each year  as Elizabeth                                                               
Peratrovich Day; in  1992, the public gallery of  the chambers of                                                               
the House  of Representatives, formerly  known as Gallery  B, was                                                               
renamed in her honor.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON concluded  by  saying that  in 2020,  the                                                               
residents of Alaska will celebrate  Elizabeth Peratrovich and the                                                               
75th anniversary of the Anti-Discrimination  Act.  That same year                                                               
is the  year that  the U.S.  Treasury is  scheduled to  issue the                                                               
commemorative  coin  recognizing   Elizabeth  Peratrovich.    She                                                               
stated that  HJR 9 would  ask the  U.S. Treasury to  continue the                                                               
campaign  to  encourage  commercial  enterprises  to  accept  and                                                               
dispense the Elizabeth  Peratrovich Native American commemorative                                                               
$1 coin  in such a  way that it would  not be only  a collector's                                                               
coin but would have a use in Alaska.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON pointed out that  the 4-H young people who                                                               
came to the  capitol demonstrate that a single  person or several                                                               
people,  speaking from  the  heart and  working  on something  in                                                               
which they  believe, can significantly and  positively affect the                                                               
future of all Alaskans.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:58:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  whether  the number  of  coins to  be                                                               
issued - 5 million - was arbitrary or a standard issue.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  replied that 3 billion  Sacagawea [Golden                                                               
Dollar]  coins were  minted since  2000.   The last  year it  was                                                               
minted  was 2016,  during which  2.1 million  coins were  minted;                                                               
every year  about that number  was minted.   She stated  that she                                                               
could not  find out  the number minted  under a  collector's run.                                                               
She  relayed that  the number  -  5 million  - came  from a  coin                                                               
enthusiast in Fairbanks who has  been working with the Forget-Me-                                                               
Not 4-H club.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:00:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  whether  Representative  Johnson                                                               
would  be  amenable  to an  amendment  adding  the  Congressional                                                               
delegation as recipients of copies of HJR 9.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON responded that it would be fine.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[HJR 9 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:01:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 5:01 P.M.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                     HB 57-CHILD LABOR HOURS                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
5:01:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 57, "An  Act relating to expanding  the period                                                               
in a  day during which  an employed child  under 16 years  of age                                                               
may perform  work in the  summer; and providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:01:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE WILSON, Alaska  State Legislature, as prime                                                               
sponsor  of HB  57,  relayed that  the  proposed legislation  was                                                               
drafted in response to the  [Fairbanks Youth Soccer Association],                                                               
which  was  concerned  that  14- and  15-year-olds  had  to  stop                                                               
refereeing at 9 p.m. in the  summer in Fairbanks.  She maintained                                                               
that  in drafting  HB  57,  she learned  that  the current  hours                                                               
allowed for youth  to work - 5  a.m. to 7 p.m.  during the school                                                               
year and 5 a.m. to 9 p.m. during  the summer - do not comply with                                                               
federal law,  which calls for a  7 a.m. beginning time  for both;                                                               
therefore, a  waiver is necessary.   She offered that  in Alaska,                                                               
"nobody even knew  of such a waiver"; however,  the Department of                                                               
Labor & Workforce  Development (DOLWD) is now pursuing  one.  She                                                               
offered that should HB 57 pass,  Alaska would be required to have                                                               
a waiver to ensure compliance with federal law.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREY  MITCHELL,  Director,   Division  of  Workers'  Compensation                                                               
(DWC),  Department  of  Labor &  Workforce  Development  (DOLWD),                                                               
testified that the  state's child labor law  differs from federal                                                               
law in several areas.    One area of disagreement  is found in AS                                                               
23.10.340, which HB 57 would amend.   He stated that AS 23.10.340                                                               
was last amended in  1981 when the hours, which were  6 a.m. to 7                                                               
p.m., were changed  to 5 a.m. to  9 a.m.  He offered  that DWC is                                                               
pursuing  several   matters:    a  clear   understanding  of  the                                                               
legislative intent  associated with that change;  the reaction of                                                               
the  U.S. Department  of Labor  (USDOL)  to the  change; and  the                                                               
existence of a waiver process that  Alaska could pursue.  He said                                                               
that initially  his office was  told there is no  waiver process;                                                               
the provisions for child labor are  set at the federal level.  He                                                               
added  that his  contacts in  the Wage  and Hour  Division (WHD),                                                               
USDOL, suggested  that these requirements  have not  been changed                                                               
for  many years  and  when  they were  created,  Alaska with  its                                                               
nighttime  daylight hours  was most  likely not  considered.   He                                                               
maintained that  the exclusion that  exists under federal  law is                                                               
primarily  related  to  work training  programs;  therefore,  the                                                               
waiver being discussed  would likely not fit  into that category.                                                               
Alaska  would be  looking more  at an  opportunity for  a "common                                                               
sense" waiver  based on Alaska's circumstances  and the situation                                                               
regarding  young  people  officiating   soccer,  which  does  not                                                               
constitute a significant hazard.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL   relayed  that  one   the  issues   still  needing                                                               
resolution is whether  there might be an  exclusion from coverage                                                               
based on the tests of applicability  that exist in the Fair Labor                                                               
Standards Act  (FLSA).   He said  that there  are two  tests that                                                               
apply.     To  meet  the   enterprise  test  for   coverage,  the                                                               
organization  would have  to  have at  least  $500,000 in  annual                                                               
revenue,  at  least  two  employees,  and  engage  in  interstate                                                               
commerce.   The second test is  an individual test.   He said DWC                                                               
has not checked  with the youth soccer organization to  see if it                                                               
meets the enterprise test; however, he suspects it does not.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON emphasized  that the  proposed legislation                                                               
would not  be solely  for soccer,  but would be  for 14-  and 15-                                                               
year-olds  throughout the  state to  be  able to  engage in  such                                                               
activities until 10 p.m.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:08:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  offered that he has  additional questions on                                                               
child labor laws.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  stated that  the requirements for  14- and                                                               
15-year-olds are  very clear in  federal law; however,  for other                                                               
ages the rules change tremendously.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[HB 57 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                 HB 15-SENTENCING: VEHICLE THEFT                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
5:09:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 15, "An  Act relating to sentencing for vehicle                                                               
theft in the first degree."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:10:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 5:10 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS passed the gavel to Co-Chair Kreiss-Tomkins.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:10:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS,  as prime sponsor of  HB 15, stated that  in the                                                               
past six months, he has heard  from many police officers that the                                                               
lack  of  incarceration  of  car  thieves  is  well  known  among                                                               
recidivist  car  thieves;  the   lack  of  meaningful  penalties,                                                               
especially for  first time  felony offenses, is  a factor  in the                                                               
dramatic growth  of vehicle thefts  in Anchorage.   He maintained                                                               
that  he  drafted  HB  15  in response  to  hearing  from  police                                                               
officers and constituents on this issue.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  relayed  that the  proposed  legislation  would                                                               
establish a mandatory  minimum sentence of at least  120 days for                                                               
felony vehicle  theft.  He  stated that he recognized  that there                                                               
are complexities related to mandatory  minimum sentences; he does                                                               
not support them in most  cases; however, he expressed his belief                                                               
that it makes sense in this circumstance.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS offered that HB  15 has received support from the                                                               
Anchorage  Police Department  Employees Association  (APDEA), the                                                               
National  Insurance Crime  Bureau  (NICB), and  the Alaska  Peace                                                               
Officers Association (APOA).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:12:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked what the  current sentence is for first                                                               
offense vehicle theft and what is proposed under HB 15.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS answered  that zero  to two  years is  the                                                               
current sentence.  He expressed  his belief that in practice, the                                                               
sentence is  often zero years for  many crimes; for those  who do                                                               
go  to  jail  for  a first-time  felony,  there  are  aggravating                                                               
factors;  and  for second-  and  third-time  offenses, there  are                                                               
mandatory  minimums of  one  and two  years,  respectively.   The                                                               
proposed  legislation  would make  the  mandatory  minimum for  a                                                               
first-time  felony offense  120 days;  second and  third offenses                                                               
would still have  the existing mandatory minimums of  one and two                                                               
years, respectively.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  clarified for Representative Wool  that HB                                                               
15 addresses  felony first-time offenses.   He stated  that based                                                               
on  Legislative Legal  Services  counsel,  there are  misdemeanor                                                               
first-time vehicle  theft offenses;  however, these  offenses are                                                               
in  a  slightly different  category  and  are atypical,  such  as                                                               
failing to return a rental car for a period.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  asked  whether "joy-riding"  is  considered                                                               
vehicle theft.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  suggested  that   given  there  are  both                                                               
misdemeanor  and  felony  convictions for  vehicle  theft,  there                                                               
would  remain  an  element  of   prosecutorial  digression.    He                                                               
maintained that it is possible that a joy-rider might be charged                                                                
with felony  vehicle theft.   Recidivist criminals  stealing cars                                                               
left idling by  the owners to warm  them up is a  real concern in                                                               
the neighborhoods that he represents.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL pointed  out  that there  is  an option  for                                                               
sentencing  someone for  a first  offense vehicle  theft for  two                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  acknowledged that  there is a  jail option                                                               
for a  first offense;  however, a person  could steal  three cars                                                               
and be  released each time  before being convicted for  the first                                                               
crime.   He maintained that  the absence of  meaningful penalties                                                               
for the first  crime enables the thief to steal  cars on multiple                                                               
other occasions.   He  asserted that  police have  described this                                                               
scenario anecdotally.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 15 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:16:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee  meeting was adjourned  at 5:17                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Dept. of Military and Veterand Affairs Appointee Torrence Saxe - Resume.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Appointee Kelly Tshibaka - Resume.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Daniel Brown Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Alvin Velazquez Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Captain Brent Breining Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Daryl Kreml Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - David Yacobucci Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Glenn Fine Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Inspector General Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Lorrel Brown Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Scott Wilson Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
Dept. of Administration Commissioner Tshibaka - Kadita Tshibaka Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HJR9.PDF HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 3/12/2019 3:00:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR 9 - Sponsor Statement 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 3/12/2019 3:00:00 PM
SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR 9 - Supporting Document, EP Image Options 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 3/12/2019 3:00:00 PM
SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR 9 Fiscal Note LEG-SESS.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 3/12/2019 3:00:00 PM
SCRA 5/7/2019 3:30:00 PM
HJR 9
HB15.PDF HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB 15 Sponsor Statement 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Sectional Analysis 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB 15 Supporting Document - NICB Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Supporting Document - APOA Letter of Support 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Supporting Document - APDEA Letter of Support 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Supporting Document - DOC Vehicle Theft Graph.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Supporting Document - KTVA News Article 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Supporting Document - KTUU News Article 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Fiscal Note CRIM 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Fiscal Note DOA-OPA 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB15 Fiscal Note DOC-IDO 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB 15 Fiscal Note DOA-PDA 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 15
HB057 ver M 2.26.19.PDF HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 3/12/2019 3:00:00 PM
HB 57
HB057 ver M Sponsor Statement 2.26.19.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
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HB057 ver M additional document - email string DLWD 2.26.19.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
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HB057 ver M additional document - email from FYSA 2.26.19.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
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HB057 ver M additional document - legal memo to ver A 2.26.19.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
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HB057 ver M additional document - Code of Federal Regulations 2.26.19.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
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HB57 Fiscal Note DOLWD-WH 3.5.2019.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
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HJR 9 Supporting Document - Letter of Support 3.12.19_Redacted.pdf HSTA 3/5/2019 3:00:00 PM
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